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According to the wiki, altars of Jiyva have a small chance of spawning in the dungeon or temple, but I've never seen one. Is it outdated, or is it just really rare? I like playing DsFi (or DsMo) of Jiyva, and it's sometimes really annoying to rush all the way to the bottom of Lair only to find out the altar spawned inside slime pits instead of outside.

I don't recall seeing one before. You could worship Elyvilon if you weren't playing a demonspawn and swap without wrath, making it less necessary to grab Jiyva ASAP, but as a demon your only option would be less-dangerously-wrathful gods, like maybe Fedhas.

That particular character build is not at all optimal, I just do it for the fun of having all sorts of wacky mutations, but thanks for the advice.

The corrupted version of Temple does generate, but it seems to be pretty rare. I had it in one of my recent Trunk games, so can confirm it's a thing. It featured Jiyva altars and regular altars approximately 50/50

Jiyva gives you rCorr for Fedhas' Summon Oklobs.

The ecumenical altar gives a shot at Jiyva, which is the most reliable source of the god in the early game (not all that reliable). Otherwise there is an early Jiyva vault thats really rare and there is a special ecumenical temple can be a Jiyva vault, but its really rare too.

Access to the god is not frequent enough to plan a character around under the assumption that it will be available.

Jiyva is a very unreliable god in the early game anyway, to the point of being a trap. The loss of items is a huge cost if you don't already have endgame gear, and a lot of the powers are much more relevant later (like creating the Death Ooze Fireballs). Honestly, if you want a Jiyva game transition there later.

That said, it is very fun to play with. It's like Xom, but not Full-on Xom and bad stuff is only temporary.

To answer the original question, yes it is possible, or at least was at one point. But at that point when I found it I had played like 600 games or something. It's really, really rare.

IIRC jiyva early is pretty okay (found an altar early once), neutral jellies are really strong and you can summon them at * and slimify is basically a one hit KO for nearly anything you would rather not fight.

Midn8 wrote:Jiyva is a very unreliable god in the early game anyway, to the point of being a trap.

When they eat those items, jiyva gives you free passive healing, so I wouldn't call that a trap. Early Jiyva is pretty strong and the item loss isn't a big deal, but I agree that it's so rare to be able to do it that it doesn't really matter.

tasonir wrote:
Midn8 wrote:Jiyva is a very unreliable god in the early game anyway, to the point of being a trap.

When they eat those items, jiyva gives you free passive healing, so I wouldn't call that a trap. Early Jiyva is pretty strong and the item loss isn't a big deal, but I agree that it's so rare to be able to do it that it doesn't really matter.

My Jiyva experience is somewhat limited, but I've found that the lack of gear and slimes eating your XP can be detrimental.

It would be much more enticing if Jiyva didn't give you bad mutations, or at least didn't remove your good ones.

ukobarrywewa wrote:Is it outdated, or is it just really rare?

[13:39] <ololoev> !lm * v>0.21 type=god.worship noun=Jiyva s=place
[13:39] <Sequell> 305 milestones for * (v>0.21 type=god.worship noun=Jiyva): 84x D:2, 70x Temple, 44x Lair:5, 40x D:3, 39x Lair:6, 13x Slime:5, 4x D:9, 3x Abyss:1, 2x D:10, D:8, Abyss:2, D:1, D:4, D:13, Slime:2

Yes, it is really rare.

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