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A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th January 2018, 17:45
by nago
ultraviolent4 has recently published a guide for DCSS.

I've only skimmed it, but it looks damn good barring some arguable minor advices.
I'd suggest to read to any new player to get the (good) basics of DCSS.
Kudos to him.

Here's the relevant reddit topic

Re: A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th January 2018, 21:29
by Implojin
I just skimmed it, and it looks like it covers pretty much all of the important community knowledge that has built up around DCSS over the last decade. It's a good writeup.

(The phrasing of some of the sections looks to be lifted from old /rlg/ and tavern posts, perhaps unintentionally due to community repetition of advice, which doesn't sit well with the COPYRIGHT ULTRAVIOLENT4 bit at the bottom, but the advice looks as solid as it was when it was originally posted.)

Re: A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th January 2018, 22:01
by tasonir
Traps make the game fun and exciting.

#TellMeMoreAboutTraps

Conversely, a player who uses a spreadsheet to calculate perfectly optimal skill training and stat distributions but has poor tactics when engaging enemies will die over and over again.

Tell that to my octopode with over 40 AC and EV in a large shield: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Tason ... 093018.txt Tab is cruise control for cool, or so I hear.

But yes, overall pretty solid and spends a lot of time covering UI and commands which a lot of other guides assume the reader already knows, so this is good for attracting new players.

Re: A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Wednesday, 10th January 2018, 04:14
by Zhorgal
What a great guide. I wish this was around when I started.

Re: A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Wednesday, 10th January 2018, 08:33
by VeryAngryFelid
I am not sure when that guide was written but currently webtiles supports mouse.

Re: A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Wednesday, 10th January 2018, 11:34
by nago
I think during last months, and it was published a couple of days ago.

However, the sentence "Tiles mode lets you use your mouse but more so in offline tiles than online tiles." I believe means "webtiles does support mouse input, but the offline tiles version works better with it" (I dunno in which ways).

Re: A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Friday, 9th February 2018, 21:38
by Sprucery
The one thing that puzzles me is that according to the guide, one should have rC+ for Zot. Personally, I have never even checked whether I have rC+ or not when entering Zot.

Re: A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Saturday, 10th February 2018, 10:04
by Patashu
Sprucery wrote:The one thing that puzzles me is that according to the guide, one should have rC+ for Zot. Personally, I have never even checked whether I have rC+ or not when entering Zot.


The biggest source of cold damage in Zot is ancient liches with 3d37 bolt of cold. Said monsters also have 3d48 crystal spears, of course, so whether or not that scares you into getting rC+ is going to mostly come down to what scary memories of ancient lich near death experiences have been scarred into your psyche.

Re: A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Saturday, 10th February 2018, 10:55
by Magipi
I feel uncomfortable without rC even in Vaults and Depths. Even a frost giant or an ice dragon is a tough opponent.

Re: A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Saturday, 10th February 2018, 12:09
by MainiacJoe
I've come to regret going into Zot without rPois, but not lacking rC+ yet.

Re: A Guide to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup by ultraviolent4

PostPosted: Monday, 12th February 2018, 23:13
by tasonir
I mean, it's always better to have it than not, I've had a few ice fiends summoned on me by liches...but yeah, rF, rPois, rElec even are all higher priority.