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Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th December 2017, 17:20
by MummyMadness
Hi, im trying to win all mummies for greatrace. Transmuter doesnt seem to be selectable in the current version so is there any way to play it or is it time to start enjoying another race?

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th December 2017, 17:26
by Sprucery
I guess you have to play an older version where MuTm is available (at least 0.9 has it). But you don't need it for greatrace, since it is not a playable combo in the current version.

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th December 2017, 21:12
by crawlnoob
Why cant mummies transmute? Have the devs really not grown up with Thundercats? I call shenanigans, we're being robbed.

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Thursday, 14th December 2017, 00:07
by cerealjynx
Feature Request: Ancient Spirits of Evil to transform this decayed form

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Thursday, 14th December 2017, 09:05
by crawlnoob
No seriously, why can't mummies transmute?

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Thursday, 14th December 2017, 09:42
by nago
Their wrapping is fragile and can't sustain magic manipulation.

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Thursday, 14th December 2017, 09:57
by VeryAngryFelid
Dragon form with immunity to torment would be completely broken in extended IMHO.
Also Necromutation would be a "give me 6 AC and MR for huge investment" spell, that would clearly uncover evil "trap for new players" plan which devs have :)

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Friday, 15th December 2017, 20:52
by njvack
Why would Tm be disallowed for mummies, whether they can transmute or not? It's the player's fault if they pick a terrible background for their species.

I can see why you can't have Dg pick zealot backgrounds, but this is different.

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Friday, 15th December 2017, 21:18
by Stonar
Sticks to Snakes is in the book, and they're even better at casting it than some other races!

(That said, there would need to be special case code anyway to prevent them from starting the game with beastly appendage memorized. I imagine this was a simpler solution.)

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Friday, 15th December 2017, 21:24
by Fingolfin
njvack wrote:Why would Tm be disallowed for mummies, whether they can transmute or not? It's the player's fault if they pick a terrible background for their species.

I can see why you can't have Dg pick zealot backgrounds, but this is different.


Plus they can still cast Passwall, Sticks to Snakes (which incidentally is in the Tm starting book) and Petrify.

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Saturday, 16th December 2017, 01:02
by njvack
Stonar wrote:Sticks to Snakes is in the book, and they're even better at casting it than some other races!

(That said, there would need to be special case code anyway to prevent them from starting the game with beastly appendage memorized. I imagine this was a simpler solution.)

There's a special case that makes DrFi not start with scale armour.

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Tuesday, 19th December 2017, 00:19
by Reptisaurus
crawlnoob wrote:No seriously, why can't mummies transmute?


This bugs me too.

Is there a homebrew fork without the silly transumtation/berserk limitations on undead? I would play the hell outta that.

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Tuesday, 19th December 2017, 02:30
by Hellmonk
No but I'll remove those limits in hellcrawl unless someone provides a design justification for their existence itt by the end of the month.

Re: Any way of playing Mummy Transmuter?

PostPosted: Friday, 22nd December 2017, 03:58
by MrPlanck
MummyMadness wrote:Hi, im trying to win all mummies for greatrace. Transmuter doesnt seem to be selectable in the current version so is there any way to play it or is it time to start enjoying another race?


Nope. Try Sludge Elf Transmuter.