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Decisions decisions

PostPosted: Wednesday, 11th October 2017, 19:47
by SpartanLlama
So, got a nice tidy little issue here, and i don't know what choice to do (IE: Got a Glaive, a spear, plate armour, and +2 ring mail of FR+)

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Hand Weapons
 a - a +0 spear (weapon)
 C - a glaive
Armour
 p - a +0 cloak (worn)
 q - a +0 leather armour of magic resistance
 z - a +2 ring mail of fire resistance (worn)
 A - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 B - a pair of glowing boots
 D - a plate armour



For now, at time of post, i'm going to go with Glaive+Ring Mail and train up Armour (Fighting, Polearms, and Dodging seem eh alright for now)
EDIT: Any advice on next steps would be vunderbar

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d (webtiles) character file.

SpartanLlama the Fighter (Minotaur Berserker)       Turns: 5625, Time: 00:16:47

Health: 18/80      AC:  9    Str: 25    XL:     8   Next: 87%
Magic:  16/16      EV: 13    Int:  4    God:    Trog [***...]
Gold:   237        SH:  0    Dex:  9    Spells: 7/7 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .   a - +0 spear
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (no shield)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   z - +2 ring mail {rF+}
rPois    .         Spirit   .   (helmet unavailable)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   p - +0 cloak
rCorr    .         Harm     .   A - +2 pair of gloves
MR       .....     Clarity  +   (no boots)
Stlth    ..........             (no amulet)
Regen    0.3/turn               (no ring)
MPRegen  0.2/turn               d - ring of magical power

@: berserk cooldown, slowed, very slow
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 3, clarity, deformed body
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion


You are on level 6 of the Dungeon.
You worship Trog.
Trog is most pleased with you.
You are very hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 7 of its levels.

You have collected 237 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +0 spear (weapon)
 C - a glaive
Armour
 p - a +0 cloak (worn)
 q - a +0 leather armour of magic resistance
 z - a +2 ring mail of fire resistance (worn)
 A - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 B - a pair of glowing boots
 D - a plate armour
Jewellery
 d - a ring of magical power (right hand)
Wands
 b - a wand of iceblast (?/15)
Scrolls
 e - 5 scrolls of identify
 i - 3 scrolls labeled XUGUMA QEAMIEC
 j - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 k - a scroll labeled RECVIKHUUBA
 m - a scroll labeled WYGAIW ESSE
 n - a scroll labeled ESUXTIEFIW
 r - 2 scrolls labeled UPUED ENEAS
 t - a scroll labeled NEROHIDAHY
 y - 3 scrolls labeled GEKLUI ZOODIEZ
Potions
 f - a black potion
 h - a purple potion
 l - a fuming golden potion
 o - a potion of curing
 v - a sapphire potion
 w - a smoky purple potion
 x - 3 emerald potions
Comestibles
 c - 3 bread rations
 g - 2 meat rations
 s - 4 fruits
 u - 2 royal jellies


   Skills:
 * Level 10.5 Fighting
 + Level 7.7 Polearms
 - Level 2.4 Armour
 + Level 6.5 Dodging


You have 7 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (6/15)             Temple (1/1) D:5         

Altars:
Ashenzari
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Gozag
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Vehumet
Xom
The Shining One

Shops:
D:5 :


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of large horns on your head.
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.


Message History

You reach to attack! You puncture the orc warrior!
You kill the orc warrior!
Trog accepts your kill.
You feel a strong urge to attack something.
Attack whom?
Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor, f - gnoll
Aim: a gnoll, wielding a spear
You reach to attack! You barely miss the gnoll.
Attack whom?
Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor, f/p - gnoll
Aim: a gnoll, wielding a spear
You reach to attack! You puncture the gnoll!
You kill the gnoll!
Trog accepts your kill.
You feel your anger subside. You are no longer berserk.
You are exhausted.
You feel yourself slow down.
Items here: )) [ †
a spear; a glaive; a plate armour; an orc corpse
C - a glaive; D - a plate armour

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  The ghost of Stenella the Cudgeler, an amateur DsAK of Lugonu (D:4)
  Sigmund (D:6)
  An orc warrior (D:6)
  An ice beast (D:5)
  A sky beast (D:5)
  2 ogres
  A bullfrog (D:6)
  A scorpion (D:6)
  2 crimson imps
  5 hounds
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:3)
  3 orc priests
  3 orc wizards
  An iguana (D:4)
  8 worker ants
  A hound skeleton (D:4)
  5 gnolls
  8 adders
  A howler monkey skeleton (D:4)
  A shadow imp (D:4)
  3 oozes
  2 adder skeletons
  A worm (D:2)
  4 dart slugs
  3 leopard geckos
  12 orcs
  2 ball pythons
  5 giant cockroaches
  6 goblins
  10 hobgoblins
  6 jackals
  4 quokkas
  A ball python skeleton (D:4)
  9 bats
  2 frilled lizards
  A jackal skeleton (D:4)
  6 kobolds
  6 rats
131 creatures vanquished.

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | SpartanLlama the Minotaur Berserker began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
    82 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
    82 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/27 MP: 1/1
   300 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 22/34 MP: 2/2
  1161 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  1184 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/42 MP: 3/3
  1244 | D:2      | Reached ** piety under Trog
  2147 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 48/48 MP: 4/4
  2312 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
  2457 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
  2700 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 52/58 MP: 5/5
  3196 | D:4      | Reached *** piety under Trog
  3308 | D:4      | Noticed Stenella's ghost (amateur DsAK)
  3325 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [potion of mutation]
  3325 | D:4      | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [potion of mutation]
  3325 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You have a pair of large horns on your head. [potion of mutation]
  3336 | D:4      | HP: 3/87 [Stenella's ghost (14)]
  3337 | D:4      | Killed Stenella's ghost
  3337 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting
  3337 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 4/66 MP: 6/6
  3860 | D:4      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  3861 | D:4      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  3862 | D:4      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  3863 | D:4      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  3863 | D:4      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  4158 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4250 | D:5      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  4257 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Fighting
  4277 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4328 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4384 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  4490 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 37/75 MP: 7/7
  4526 | D:5      | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting
  4984 | D:5      | Found Acifuent's Book Boutique.
  5087 | D:5      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  5186 | D:6      | Noticed Sigmund
  5196 | D:6      | Killed Sigmund
  5222 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  5264 | D:6      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8 |
---------------+-------------------------+-----
Fighting       |  4     5     6  7  8 10 | 10.5
Polearms       |        4     5     6  7 |  7.7
Dodging        |           3     4  5  6 |  6.5
Armour         |                         |  2.4

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Spear             |    82 |   187 |   210 ||   479
       Headbutt          |    10 |    26 |    33 ||    69
Invok: Berserk           |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
       Trog's Hand       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Use: Potion            |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Scroll            |       |       |     5 ||     5
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |       |     7 |     2 ||     9
       Fruit             |       |       |     3 ||     3
       Bread ration      |       |       |     1 ||     1
Armor: Animal skin       |     6 |     2 |       ||     8
       Leather armour    |       |    21 |     2 ||    23
       Ring mail         |       |       |    40 ||    40
Dodge: Dodged            |    31 |    67 |    81 ||   179

Re: Decisions decisions

PostPosted: Wednesday, 11th October 2017, 19:53
by SpartanLlama
Oh.
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Message History

a flail; a scale mail; an orc skeleton
There is an open door, spattered with blood here.
Things that are here:
a flail; a scale mail; an orc skeleton
Eating one of 3 chunks of flesh. You eat one of the 3 chunks of flesh.
This raw flesh tastes terrible.
Things that are here:
a trident of piercing; a leather armour
6 orcs and an orc warrior come into view.
An orc is wielding a dagger of freezing.
The orc shouts! x5
2 orcs, an orc warrior and 2 orc wizards come into view.
2 orcs and an orc wizard come into view.
The orc shouts! x2; The orc wizard shouts! The orc shouts! x2
The orc wizard shouts! The orc warrior shouts!
The orc sings a few bars from the Orcish anthem.
3 orcs come into view.
An orc and an orc warrior come into view.
The orc shouts! x3
An orc and an orc priest come into view.

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Re: Decisions decisions

PostPosted: Wednesday, 11th October 2017, 19:58
by SpartanLlama
Well, uh, moral of story.

Runed Doors = Bad.
EDIT:
"The orc sings a few bars from the Orcish anthem."
Just noticed this, now i don't feel bad about my death
EDIT EP.2 Attack Of The Edits:
Can't seem to find my morgue file for this one :c, needless to say it's ~10 minutes after the earlier one

Re: Decisions decisions

PostPosted: Thursday, 12th October 2017, 12:47
by 4Hooves2Appendages
If you want to win, I would suggest leaving runed doors closed.

Although, I suppose it is possible to try to identify the vaults in the game files and only open the ones that are relatively harmless or at least potentially rewarding. Needless to say, this is very tedious.

Re: Decisions decisions

PostPosted: Thursday, 12th October 2017, 14:03
by crawlnoob
All of the runed doors are vaults that can be memorized (spoilery), so you should open them and learn them on earlier characters who are probably going to die anyways.

Some notable runed vaults :

Early D:
A big rectangular room at the starting position that you can walk around, this is full of slimes and scorpions and other vermin. I think they put windows in it now at least, its basically an XP dump that you should remember to backtrack to when you can clear it without too much risk.

A narrow, zig zagging path with mushrooms leading to a runed door. This is crazy yiuf, a gnoll who is guaranteed to wear a cloak (sometimes magical) and wield a quarterstaff of chaos (very often +4). His hut often has one or more magical maces and flails, which explains why he uses a quarterstaff, because he is crazy. Definitely kill him if you need a cloak and you can avoid getting hit.

Middle D :

A small square room that contains 3x3 of space, with a runed door, placed in the center of a larger open area. This is the Xom death-trap of exploding sheep. Open the door and a flock of sheep with the sticky flame and inner flame status effects leap out and swarm the area. They soon explode and will easily kill most characters if you open the vault when you first find it and are hit. This vault is awful and should be removed, but Xom thinks it's hillarious.

Not a runed door, but a teleporter next to a large, sealed room with a window giving poor visibility. Its basically a death trap, come back later when you are OP to clear it for some consumables and a couple probably useless items to you now, or if you are feeling pretty strong, go for it now but its generally not worth the risk.

Lair :

A runed door on the last floor that is found in a large zig-zagging area often at the top of the edge of the floor with a lot of hell-hounds and those not-dragon fire worms or whatever... Its a fire dragon with some gold and maybe some items. Might even be two fire dragons sometimes. I dont know.

A runed door anywhere near the altar of slime. It's an azure slime or two, nothing inside. These can kill you fast if you are not prepared, almost no reason to open this unless you are ready and want the free XP.

Lair has two notable endings as well, that are essentially runed vaults but I cant remember if they have runed doors anymore or not. Both have a small maze in a forest before you get to a large building. In one ending, going into the building will lead to a large square room full of statues with a human wizard who quickly goes invisible usually. There is a door on the other side, that leads to a hell-themed area, complete with a pack of low- and mid-tier demons and an altar to Mahkleb, and a portal to Hell with a small stash of two or so sometimes useful items. The other ending has a bunch of elephant statues and elephants, a crappy statue that hides a treasure (you need LRD or digging or fireball to get it out, lame), and eventually a closed room with an anaconda. If you kill the anaconda, some of the statues come to life as dire elephants.