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Re: The Development of a Tank
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Siegurt wrote:duvessa wrote:I've been trying to ignore this thread, but this post finally made me snap and ask what are you people smokingSiegurt wrote:Don't get the wrong idea, Gargoyles are not bad by any means, it's just that Nagas are better.
I wasn't saying gargoyles are *generally* better but *for this specific purpose* aka "high ability to withstand damage with limited mobility, because you're worshipping chei and/or are using statue form" in other words what I was saying was "when you take movement (mostly) out of the equation, Nagas can survive (a little) more punishment than Gargoyles, given similar levels of equipment"
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16.1 (webtiles) character file.
1855099 tasonir the Wrestler (level 27, 268/268 HPs)
Began as a Naga Monk on Mar 22, 2015.
Was the Champion of Cheibriados.
Escaped with the Orb
... and 3 runes on Mar 24, 2015!
The game lasted 04:46:04 (66260 turns).
tasonir the Wrestler (Naga Monk) Turns: 66260, Time: 04:46:04
Health: 268/268 AC: 70 Str: 38 XL: 27
Magic: 44/50 EV: 39 Int: 37 God: Cheibriados [******]
Gold: 8772 SH: 22 Dex: 49 Spells: 11 memorised, 9 levels left
rFire + + . SeeInvis + - Unarmed
rCold + + . Clarity . Y - +11 crystal plate armour {rC+}
rNeg + + . SustAb . N - +5 shield "Chirphio" {rF+ Regen+ Dex+3}
rPois + Gourm . Z - +2 hat "Xaihufim" {rElec rN+ MP+9}
rElec + Spirit . B - +2 cloak {rC+}
rCorr . Warding + y - +1 pair of gloves {Dex+3}
rMut . Stasis . q - +4 naga barding
MR +++.. l - amulet of warding {Ward, rN+, !d}
Stlth .......... K - +3 ring of protection
t - ring of Naratwio {+Fly rPois rF+ Dex+7}
@: mighty, brilliant, agile, phasing, stone skin, very slow, extremely resistant
to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: spit poison, constrict 1, see invisible, deformed body, deterioration 1,
poison resistance, slowness 2, forlorn, AC +9
a: Spit Poison, Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce
Religion, Evoke Flight
0: Orb of Zot
}: 3/15 runes: barnacled, silver, gossamer
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duvessa wrote:This is even more puzzling for me. Why would you pick naga for this, when it's one of the worst races for Chei and it completely loses its innate AC and barding while in statue form? I suppose Na is still better than Gr at casting statue form since Gr literally can't cast it, but I doubt that's what you meant.Siegurt wrote:I wasn't saying gargoyles are *generally* better but *for this specific purpose* aka "high ability to withstand damage with limited mobility, because you're worshipping chei and/or are using statue form" in other words what I was saying was "when you take movement (mostly) out of the equation, Nagas can survive (a little) more punishment than Gargoyles, given similar levels of equipment"
Wouldn't it be better to use deep dwarf, ogre, or troll? DD has Na's HP bonus and damage shaving, not to mention innate heal wounds and much better aptitudes. Ogre also has better aptitudes and much better HP, Tr has better HP, and all of these will have the same AC as Na in statue form.
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