Playing as a human Monk I would love to reach Last floor...

[HawkI]

I first got interested in playing this when I heard from a friend that a chosen race you can play as is a magical cat, I didn't know at the time but that is a sub boss you encounter. I really enjoy this game, I'm amazed by how fast it loads and how every play through feels so different, I always pick these options. I have tried at least 50 times, watched videos, read the wiki, etc.

Human, Monk, Mace, Devout Follower of the God of Battle when stumbled upon. And of course I equip a shield and go up the weapon and Armour tree

I always tend to get to floor 14 and then... Something happens. Whether it be being teleported to the 3rd floor of the warp, innocently investigate an interesting building to be greeted to a volley from Deep Elf archers and Centenarians. One time I even got super Drained by accidentally taking off the amulet of harm.

The funny thing is I don't even want to beat the game, I simply just want to get to the 15th floor. I understand that this is a game of chance and there's way more than the first dungeon but the race, class, weapon and worship I choose will never win me the game, in my experienced opinion, and I don't even want to.

So I guess my question is this, do you think it is possible?

[edgefigaro]

Its generally quite easy at level 1/under 50 turns if you roll a formacid.

[HawkI]

Thank you for this post, this helped me clear up the title of the thread. I'm human all the way. Go Hu - Mo!

[Rast]

Play MiFi for a while. Once you reach last floor with that, you can switch back to HuMo

[HawkI]

Perhaps I should rephrase this, I challenge any one willing to try to get to the 15th floor as human, Monk etc. As soon as you do that you can go back to the top and exit

[white_noise]

I never go past D10 before clearing lair and mines. Maybe that is your mistake and you are pushing too hard. Take your time and farm some easy branches before venturing any deeper.

[edgefigaro]

These kinds of requests are really hard to give advice to. You have a strong sense of the way you want to play which is not great for beating challenges in crawl. You are basically rerolling characters until you get lucky.

You can play crawl more optimally which begins to take you away from the way you want to play. You are playing a challenge game. If it isn't more tedious than a normal game, you are probably playing it poorly.

This is not a difficult challenge if you have good skills at the character centered tactical combat simulator that is crawl. This challenge will not improve your skills at said tactical combat simulator overmuch.

[Shtopit]

There are two basic things I suggest.

#1 is positioning. Try to always fight your enemies in corridors. If you have a shield, that's even better.

#2 is learning to run away. There are very few enemies you can't run away from. If you can't win against them, just leave them there. You can get back when you are stronger. Running away can also be a way to break up packs. Don't be scared to use consumables to get away -- potions of haste, blink scrolls, teleport scrolls, scrolls of fear... There's a lot of them, and you need to use them to learn how to use them.

[Shtopit]

Here is the dump of such a character I brought to D:15 and cleared the floor, maybe it can be useful.

  Code:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1 (tiles) character file.

Saba the Bludgeoner (Human Monk)                   Turns: 30520, Time: 01:31:41

Health: 127/127    AC: 21    Str: 23    XL:     16   Next: 88%
Magic:  23/23      EV: 15    Int: 12    God:    Okawaru [******]
Gold:   2530       SH: 19    Dex: 16    Spells: 15/15 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis +   z - +3 flail (protect)
rCold    + + .     Gourm    .   y - +1 shield {rC+}
rNeg     + . .     Faith    .   H - +0 pearl dragon scales
rPois    .         Spirit   +   r - +1 helmet of the Oligarchy {rC+ Regen+}
rElec    .         Reflect  +   e - scarf {Spirit}
rCorr    .         Harm     .   w - +2 pair of gloves
MR       ++...                  f - +0 pair of boots {run}
Stlth    +.........             o - +5 amulet of reflection
Regen    0.8/turn               J - ring of see invisible
MPRegen  0.2/turn               a - +4 ring of strength

@: quick
A: deterioration 1, magic resistance 1, strong 1
a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion


You are on level 15 of the Dungeon.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 24 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Bailey and Ice Cave.

You have collected 2622 gold pieces.
You have spent 92 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 z - a +3 flail of protection (weapon)
Missiles
 p - 5 javelins of returning
 s - 4 throwing nets (quivered)
 P - 7 tomahawks of dispersal
Armour
 e - a scarf of spirit shield (worn)
 f - a +0 pair of boots of running (worn)
 r - the +1 helmet of the Oligarchy (worn) {rC+ Regen+}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 w - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 y - a +1 shield of cold resistance (worn)
 H - +0 pearl dragon scales (worn)
Jewellery
 a - a +4 ring of strength (right hand)
 l - a +4 ring of evasion
 o - a +5 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 J - a ring of see invisible (left hand)
 R - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 U - an uncursed ring of flight
 X - an uncursed amulet of regeneration
 Y - an uncursed ring of magical power
Wands
 d - a wand of flame (?/48) {zapped: 3}
 m - a wand of acid (?/15)
 B - a wand of acid (?/15) {zapped: 1}
 E - a wand of paralysis (11/24)
 G - a wand of iceblast (?/15)
 N - a wand of paralysis (?/24) {zapped: 4}
 S - a wand of scattershot (5/9)
Scrolls
 i - 2 scrolls of recharging
 k - 4 scrolls of enchant weapon
 u - 2 scrolls of blinking
 v - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 x - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 A - 3 scrolls of fog
 C - 2 scrolls of fear
 D - a scroll of magic mapping
 I - a scroll of summoning
 M - a scroll labeled NIFACETIUC
 T - a scroll of brand weapon
Potions
 b - 4 potions of heal wounds
 g - 2 potions of haste
 n - 5 potions of flight
 q - 2 potions of ambrosia
 t - 12 potions of curing
 F - 3 potions of magic
 K - a potion of invisibility
 L - 2 potions of lignification
 Q - a potion of agility
 W - 2 potions of berserk rage
 Z - a potion of might
Miscellaneous
 V - a phial of floods
Comestibles
 c - 15 bread rations
 h - 12 royal jellies
 j - 14 meat rations
 O - 11 fruits


   Skills:
 + Level 12,2 Fighting
 + Level 15,4 Maces & Flails
 + Level 0,2 Throwing
 + Level 10,0 Armour
 + Level 9,8 Dodging
 - Level 2,2 Stealth
 + Level 10,9 Shields
 - Level 8,1 Invocations
 * Level 10,4 Evocations


You have 15 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5            Lair (6/6) D:9
 Shoals (0/4) Lair:4       Spider (0/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/5) Lair:5
    Orc (2/2) D:11            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (0/5) D:13
 Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:15 }*   Orc:2 [:(*


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage.
You are resistant to hostile enchantments. (MR+)
Your muscles are strong. (Str +2)


Message History

You sock the wraith!
The wraith is almost destroyed.
The wraith closely misses you.
You sock the wraith!
You destroy the wraith!
Okawaru accepts your kill.
No target in view!
No target in view!
Found 6 tomahawks.
A crimson imp comes into view.
The crimson imp shouts!
You see here a short sword.
The crimson imp blinks!
The crimson imp blinks!
You sock the crimson imp!
Your weapon exudes an aura of protection.
You kill the crimson imp!
Okawaru accepts your kill.
Done exploring.
Done exploring.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Rupert (D:14)
  An orc warlord (D:10)
  A frost giant (IceCv)
  A stone giant (Orc:1)
  Azrael (D:12)
  2 dire elephants (Lair:6)
  4 ettins
  A minotaur (Lab)
  Snorg (Orc:1)
  Josephine (Lair:4)
  A rakshasa (D:15)
  Erolcha (D:13)
  A catoblepas (Lair:6)
  The ghost of Saba the Basher, a journeyman HuMo of Okawaru (D:11)
  An anaconda (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  8 hydras
  Erica (D:8)
  6 two-headed ogres
  2 centaur warriors
  A death knight (D:14)
  A tengu warrior (D:14)
  An ogre mage (D:13)
  A deep troll shaman (Lair:6)
  4 death yaks (Lair:6)
  An unseen horror (D:11)
  A wizard (D:15)
  A deep elf mage (D:12)
  A lindwurm (Lair:6)
  An orb spider (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  3 orc sorcerers
  3 ugly things
  2 manticores
  A wolf spider (D:15)
  9 cyclopes
  Maurice (D:13)
  5 centaur zombies
  A salamander (D:15)
  6 black mambas
  7 elephants (Lair:6)
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  A merfolk siren (Lair:4)
  Joseph (D:7)
  6 centaur skeletons
  A torpor snail (Lair:5)
  2 molten gargoyles (Lair:3)
  5 spiny frogs
  2 kobold demonologists
  A gargoyle (D:11)
  An efreet (D:14)
  6 rime drakes
  6 komodo dragons
  A freezing wraith (D:15)
  16 polar bears
  2 tengu conjurers
  2 hellwings
  4 trolls
  11 dream sheep (Lair:5)
  13 blink frogs (Lair:6)
  3 slime creatures (Lair:5)
  8 hippogriffs
  A redback (Lair:5)
  The ghost of Saba the Grave Robber, an amateur DENe (D:4)
  2 wyverns
  A fire elemental (D:12)
  9 wraiths
  3 basilisks
  62 yaks
  2 steam dragons
  4 hungry ghosts
  6 vampire mosquitoes
  Edmund (D:5)
  3 wargs (Orc:2)
  17 water moccasins
  Duvessa (D:7)
  3 hell hounds (D:12)
  8 porcupines
  3 phantoms
  20 orc warriors
  2 sky beasts
  4 black bears
  4 ice beasts
  2 hornet zombies (D:10)
  An eye of draining (D:12)
  2 necrophages
  63 wolves
  An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  7 centaurs
  13 ogres
  9 crocodiles
  9 big kobolds
  12 bullfrogs
  A gnoll sergeant (D:9)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:14)
  A wyvern zombie (D:12)
  Dowan (D:7)
  An earth elemental (Lab)
  4 scorpions
  3 wights (D:14)
  5 electric eels
  6 howler monkeys
  7 crimson imps
  5 lava snakes (Lair:3)
  A bullfrog zombie (D:9)
  A quasit (D:8)
  7 jellies
  18 orc wizards
  15 orc priests
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  7 hounds
  Jessica (D:2)
  4 iguanas
  10 worker ants
  4 hound zombies
  A hound skeleton (D:5)
  2 worker ant zombies
  12 adders
  20 gnolls
  7 shadow imps
  An ooze (D:3)
  An adder zombie (D:9)
  4 adder skeletons
  4 worms
  3 dart slugs
  10 leopard geckos
  83 orcs
  2 ball pythons (D:3)
  9 bats
  4 giant cockroaches
  8 goblins
  8 hobgoblins
  2 quokkas
  3 frilled lizards
  A giant cockroach zombie (D:5)
  A jackal skeleton (D:6)
  2 jackal zombies (D:8)
  56 kobolds
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4)
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:6)
  6 rats
  4 fungi (D:12)
817 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An unseen horror (D:12)
  2 cyclopes (Orc:2)
  A worker ant (D:12)
  A gnoll (D:2)
  An adder (D:2)
  An orc (Orc:2)
  2 jackals (D:2)
  A kobold (D:6)
  A frilled lizard (D:2)
  A rat (D:2)
  20 fungi
  13 plants
45 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 862 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Saba the Human Monk began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
   377 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 2/2
   946 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 29/29 MP: 3/3
  1407 | D:2      | Noticed Jessica
  1415 | D:2      | Killed Jessica
  1415 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 34/35 MP: 4/4
  1446 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  1446 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  1451 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/41 MP: 5/5
  2145 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/48 MP: 6/6
  2392 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3251 | D:4      | Noticed Saba's ghost (amateur DENe)
  3431 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  3485 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  3485 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 45/55 MP: 7/7
  3759 | D:4      | You fall through a shaft!
  3759 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3769 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3791 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3829 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru
  3829 | Temple   | Reached * piety under Okawaru
  3829 | Temple   | Reached ** piety under Okawaru
  3942 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  4329 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  4407 | D:5      | Noticed Edmund
  4452 | D:5      | Killed Edmund
  4452 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 48/61 MP: 7/9
  4611 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  5187 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  5692 | D:6      | Reached *** piety under Okawaru
  6181 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 65/68 MP: 11/11
  6293 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  8040 | D:4      | Killed Saba's ghost
  8040 | D:4      | Reached **** piety under Okawaru
  8040 | D:4      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  8264 | D:7      | Noticed Duvessa
  8264 | D:7      | Noticed Dowan
  8399 | D:7      | Killed Duvessa
  8399 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
  8403 | D:7      | Killed Dowan
  8572 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 70/76 MP: 12/14
  8996 | D:7      | Noticed Joseph
  9012 | D:7      | Killed Joseph
  9012 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  9012 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  9525 | D:8      | Reached ***** piety under Okawaru
  9609 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
  9629 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  9655 | D:8      | Killed Erica
  9655 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 10219 | D:9      | Found a flagged portal.
 10239 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 10244 | Bailey   | Noticed an orc warlord
 10244 | Bailey   | Noticed Grug's ghost (journeyman MfTm)
 10272 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 10295 | D:9      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
 10482 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 83/83 MP: 14/16
 10523 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 10523 | D:9      | Received a gift from Okawaru
 10526 | D:9      | Got a fine helmet {god gift}
 10532 | D:9      | Identified the +1 helmet of the Oligarchy {rC+ Regen+} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 9 of the Dungeon)
 11352 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11382 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 11468 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You are resistant to hostile enchantments. (MR+) [potion of mutation]
 11468 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [potion of mutation]
 11468 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [potion of mutation]
 11735 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
 11959 | Lair:1   | Reached ****** piety under Okawaru
 12828 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 88/92 MP: 18/18
 12881 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 12927 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 13698 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 14139 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 14668 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 15272 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 15327 | Lair:4   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 15341 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 15659 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 15677 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 15682 | Lab      | Identified the Reference Book on Feathers and Execration
 15682 | Lab      | Identified Boum's Reference Book on Bewitching Darkness
 15867 | Lair:4   | You fall through a shaft!
 15898 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 90/99 MP: 19/19
 16026 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 16942 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 16985 | Lair:4   | Noticed Josephine
 16994 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 17004 | Lair:4   | Killed Josephine
 17004 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 17451 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 17474 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 17575 | Lair:5   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 17576 | Lair:5   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 17609 | Lair:5   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 17621 | Lair:5   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 17901 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 18034 | Lair:6   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 18065 | Lair:6   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 18241 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 104/109 MP: 18/20
 18255 | Lair:6   | Noticed a dire elephant
 18348 | Lair:6   | Killed a dire elephant
 18348 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 18385 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 18715 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 19220 | Lair:6   | Noticed a dire elephant
 19407 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 19420 | Lair:6   | Got a dazzling cloak {god gift}
 19426 | Lair:6   | Identified the +2 cloak of Nuwnus {Int+5} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 20184 | Lair:6   | Killed a dire elephant
 21166 | D:10     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 115/117 MP: 21/21
 21631 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 21791 | D:11     | Noticed Saba's ghost (journeyman HuMo)
 21832 | D:11     | Killed Saba's ghost
 22561 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 22699 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 22699 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 22700 | Orc:2    | Noticed Snorg
 22730 | Orc:1    | Killed Snorg
 22783 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Okawaru
 22828 | Orc:2    | Got a slimy cloak {god gift}
 22981 | Orc:2    | Found a frozen archway.
 23011 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 23379 | IceCv    | Identified the +1 cloak of the Storm King {Int+4} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 23686 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 23731 | IceCv    | Killed a frost giant
 24130 | Orc:2    | Found Ugonkofi's General Store.
 24151 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 24539 | D:10     | Killed an orc warlord
 24824 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Okawaru
 24927 | Orc:2    | Found Titufal's Antique Weapon Boutique.
 25001 | Orc:2    | Found Koamink's Antique Armour Boutique.
 25444 | Orc:2    | Found Piuvus's Book Emporium.
 25444 | Orc:2    | Noticed a stone giant
 25529 | Orc:1    | Killed a stone giant
 25529 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 25529 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 16. HP: 111/126 MP: 23/23
 25755 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of identify for 32 gold pieces
 26711 | D:12     | Identified a +0 pair of boots of running (You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 26845 | D:12     | Noticed Azrael
 26858 | D:12     | Killed Azrael
 27250 | D:12     | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
 27482 | D:13     | Received a gift from Okawaru
 27497 | D:13     | Got a jewelled shield {god gift}
 27503 | D:13     | Identified the +0 shield "Bisos" {Int+3} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 27653 | D:13     | Noticed Erolcha
 27663 | D:13     | Killed Erolcha
 28021 | D:13     | Noticed Maurice
 28036 | D:13     | Killed Maurice
 28047 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 28080 | D:13     | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 28088 | D:13     | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 28339 | D:13     | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 29022 | D:14     | Noticed Rupert
 29068 | D:14     | Killed Rupert
 29071 | D:14     | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 29460 | D:14     | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 29773 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 29949 | D:15     | Found Ytwaby's Assorted Antiques.
 29956 | D:15     | Bought a scroll of identify for 60 gold pieces
 30136 | D:15     | Found Jenaobb's Quality Used Wands.
 30364 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 30417 | D:15     | Received a gift from Okawaru

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 |
---------------+-------------------------------------------------+-----
Maces & Flails |           4     5  6  7  9 11 12 13 14    15    | 15,4
Armour         |           1        2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9    10 | 10,0
Fighting       |                 4     5     6  7  8  9 10 11 12 | 12,2
Dodging        |                 4           5  6  7  8     9    |  9,8
Invocations    |                    1  3  5  6  8                |  8,1
Evocations     |                                   4  6  8  9 10 | 10,4
Shields        |                                      3  6  9 10 | 10,9
Throwing       |                                                 |  0,2
Stealth        |                                                 |  2,2

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |   105 |    27 |       |       |       |       ||   132
       Flail             |       |   207 |   528 |  1095 |  2050 |   882 ||  4762
       Punch             |       |       |       |     4 |       |       ||     4
Throw: Throwing net      |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
Invok: Heroism           |       |       |     2 |     7 |     4 |     1 ||    14
       Finesse           |       |       |       |     2 |     5 |     1 ||     8
 Abil: Stop Flying       |       |       |       |       |       |     6 ||     6
       Evoke Flight      |       |       |       |       |       |     6 ||     6
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     2 |     5 |     6 ||    13
  Use: Potion            |     1 |     1 |     2 |     3 |       |     1 ||     8
       Scroll            |       |     7 |     2 |     8 |    12 |     8 ||    37
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Petrified         |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |       |       |    17 ||    17
  Eat: Chunk             |     2 |     7 |    14 |    22 |    29 |    12 ||    86
       Fruit             |       |       |     3 |     7 |     7 |    10 ||    27
Armor: Ring mail         |    37 |    43 |    82 |       |       |       ||   162
       Chain mail        |       |       |    29 |    63 |       |       ||    92
       Pearl dragon scal |       |       |       |   376 |   613 |   185 ||  1174
       Skin              |       |       |       |    28 |       |       ||    28
Dodge: Dodged            |    84 |   154 |   326 |   997 |   842 |   237 ||  2640
Block: Other             |     6 |    53 |    89 |   308 |    29 |       ||   485
       Reflection        |       |     3 |    10 |     4 |    26 |    34 ||    77
       Shield            |       |       |       |       |  1364 |   600 ||  1964
       Buckler           |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1



[HawkI]

Hey you did it nice one. Yeah if I hadn't of investigated that building on the 14th floor which thinking about it was most probably a stair way to an extra dungeon I would have reached the 15th floor myself. I had cleared out all the floors including the 14th bar that building and the extra dungeons. Only a flai of +3 wow. Man the difficulty curve of the sub bosses like the ghost of human players spike rocket around dungeon 10. I tend not to do any of the branches bar the well and sand temple, the ones that time out.

So it is possible

[WingedEspeon]

  Code:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1 (tiles) character file.

Videigis the Carver (Human Monk)                   Turns: 22007, Time: 01:27:41

Health: 103/103    AC: 12    Str: 13    XL:     13   Next: 83%
Magic:  20/20      EV: 17    Int: 11    God:    Ru [******]
Gold:   466        SH:  4    Dex: 17    Spells: 12/12 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis .   y - +7 scimitar (freeze)
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (shield unavailable)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   B - +3 ring mail
rPois    .         Spirit   .   (no helmet)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   v - +2 cloak
rCorr    .         Harm     .   (no gloves)
MR       .....                  H - +0 pair of boots
Stlth    ..........             (no amulet)
Regen    0.3/turn               (ring unavailable)
MPRegen  0.2/turn               (no ring)

@: drained
A: large bone plates 1, clumsy 1, evolution 1, missing a hand, no stealth,
inexperienced 1
a: Draw Out Power, Power Leap, Apocalypse, Renounce Religion


You are on level 14 of the Dungeon.
You worship Ru.
Ru is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 15 of its levels.

You have collected 658 gold pieces.
You have spent 192 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 k - a +2 dagger of venom
 l - a +0 blowgun
 y - a +7 scimitar of freezing (weapon)
 Z - a +2 scimitar of flaming
Missiles
 d - 197 stones (quivered)
 n - 19 poisoned needles
 q - 3 tomahawks of dispersal
 r - 8 javelins
 M - 3 poisoned tomahawks
 U - 3 throwing nets
Armour
 v - a +2 cloak (worn)
 B - a +3 ring mail (worn)
 H - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
Jewellery
 O - an uncursed ring of fire
Wands
 u - a wand of disintegration (9/24)
 x - a wand of confusion (9/48)
 z - a wand of clouds (?/9)
 D - a wand of acid (5/15)
 J - a wand of random effects (?/48)
 K - a wand of paralysis (3/24)
 N - a wand of digging (?/24)
 S - a wand of lightning (5/15)
 T - a wand of lightning (?/15)
 V - a wand of random effects (?/48)
 W - a wand of iceblast (8/15)
 Y - a wand of clouds (7/9)
Scrolls
 i - 2 scrolls of fog
 s - 2 scrolls of immolation
 w - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 A - 2 scrolls of vulnerability
 C - 4 scrolls of remove curse
 E - 2 scrolls of amnesia
 F - 3 scrolls of blinking
Potions
 a - 2 bubbling pink potions
 e - 3 potions of might
 g - 3 metallic dark potions
 h - a potion of heal wounds
 j - 4 potions of berserk rage
 o - 3 potions of curing
 p - 2 potions of flight
 G - 3 cyan potions
 P - a dark potion
 R - a bubbling clear potion
 X - a yellow potion
Miscellaneous
 Q - a sack of spiders
Comestibles
 c - 12 bread rations {@e1}
 m - 11 fruits
 t - 3 meat rations {@e2}
 I - 5 royal jellies


   Skills:
 + Level 10.1(9.7) Fighting
 + Level 14.0(13.6) Long Blades
 - Level 8.2(7.9) Throwing
 + Level 10.2(9.8) Dodging
 - Level 10.4(10.1) Evocations


You have 12 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (0/1) D:6            Lair (0/6) D:8
    Orc (0/2) D:11         Vaults (0/5) D:13       
Depths: D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Fedhas
Hepliaklqana
Makhleb
Ru
Trog
Uskayaw
Xom
Yredelemnul
The Shining One

Shops:
D:12 }


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are clumsy. (Dex -2)
You are missing a hand.
You cannot be stealthy.
You are somewhat inexperienced. (-2 XL)
You are partially covered in large bone plates. (SH +4)
You evolve.


Message History

The bolt of fire hits you!
The deep elf mage casts a spell at you.
The shard of ice hits you!
Found 17 gold pieces.
A hog comes into view.
Aiming: Power Leap
Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor
You hear a shout! You hear an angry squeal. x3; You hear a shout! x3
The hog is too close now for your liking.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
You start resting.
You feel less exhausted.
You start resting.
Magic restored.
You start resting.
All of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted away.
HP restored.
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  An ogre mage (D:13)
  Erolcha (D:12)
  4 centaur warriors
  Harold (D:12)
  2 hydras
  6 two-headed ogres
  2 unseen horrors
  Pikel (D:6)
  11 ugly things
  3 deep elf magi
  2 cyclopes (D:13)
  Maurice (D:12)
  A spiny frog (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  An efreet (D:14)
  A kobold demonologist (D:11)
  2 komodo dragons
  A hornet (D:8)
  6 trolls
  A polar bear (D:13)
  2 dream sheep (D:9)
  5 hippogriffs
  4 slime creatures
  A shadow (D:12)
  2 centaur simulacra (D:13)
  A wyvern (D:13)
  Sigmund (D:6)
  6 yaks
  2 vampire mosquitoes (D:12)
  2 steam dragons
  3 hungry ghosts
  Menkaure (D:6)
  A water moccasin (D:10)
  4 sky beasts
  6 phantoms
  10 ice beasts
  2 meliai simulacra (D:13)
  A slave (D:6)
  2 black bears
  6 ogres
  A necrophage (D:11)
  7 orc warriors
  An eye of draining (D:11)
  A wolf (D:13)
  6 centaurs
  3 big kobolds (D:9)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:9)
  14 bullfrogs
  2 wyvern zombies
  2 water moccasin skeletons
  5 scorpions
  A troll zombie (D:11)
  13 killer bees
  16 wights
  8 howler monkeys
  An electric eel (D:13)
  8 crimson imps
  3 centaur zombies
  5 hounds
  A quasit (D:13)
  6 orc priests
  5 jellies
  Crazy Yiuf (D:3)
  12 orc wizards
  4 centaur skeletons
  3 iguanas
  Ijyb (D:4)
  13 worker ants
  A killer bee zombie (D:7)
  4 ogre zombies (D:11)
  A bullfrog simulacrum (D:13)
  A hound skeleton (D:4)
  6 gnolls
  10 adders
  3 shadow imps
  3 white imps (D:13)
  An ufetubus (D:13)
  An adder zombie (D:4)
  5 worms
  2 dart slugs
  4 leopard geckos
  42 orcs
  2 bats
  6 giant cockroaches
  7 goblins
  10 hobgoblins
  17 jackals
  9 quokkas
  3 ball pythons
  6 frilled lizards
  A goblin skeleton (D:11)
  A goblin zombie (D:11)
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:11)
  2 hobgoblin zombies
  A jackal skeleton (D:9)
  13 kobolds
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4)
  4 orc skeletons (D:11)
  10 orc zombies (D:11)
  12 rats
444 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A hydra (D:12)
  An ugly thing (D:12)
  An iguana (D:12)
3 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A wolf spider simulacrum (D:14)
  2 hippogriffs
  A yak (D:13)
  A soldier ant (D:14)
  A troll zombie (D:11)
  An orc priest (D:14)
  An orc (D:10)
  4 fungi (D:8)
  2 plants (D:3)
14 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 461 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Videigis the Human Monk began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
   235 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/24 MP: 2/2
   958 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 29/29 MP: 3/3
  1546 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 30/35 MP: 4/4
  1608 | D:2      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  1683 | D:2      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  1685 | D:2      | Noticed a balrug
  2299 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades
  2488 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 32/42 MP: 5/5
  3224 | D:3      | Found a runed door.
  3229 | D:3      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  3246 | D:3      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  3332 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 48/48 MP: 6/6
  3958 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  3992 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  4082 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  4082 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
  4217 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 49/55 MP: 7/7
  5055 | D:4      | Noticed Ijyb
  5069 | D:4      | Killed Ijyb
  5216 | D:4      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  5217 | D:4      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  5326 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5645 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  5645 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades
  5645 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  5923 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  6003 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 62/62 MP: 7/9
  6158 | D:5      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6171 | D:5      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  6240 | D:5      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  6534 | D:5      | Became a worshipper of Ru the Awakened
  6535 | D:5      | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [Ru sacrifice]
  6682 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  6692 | D:6      | Noticed Menkaure
  6694 | D:6      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
  6696 | D:6      | Noticed Pikel
  6696 | D:6      | Noticed a hand axe
  6698 | D:6      | Noticed a dagger
  6709 | D:6      | Killed Menkaure
  6869 | D:6      | Killed Pikel
  6869 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades
  6869 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 52/69 MP: 9/11
  6972 | D:6      | Noticed Sigmund
  6978 | D:6      | Killed Sigmund
  8117 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
  8644 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 60/77 MP: 13/13
  8686 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  8764 | D:8      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  8764 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Long Blades
  8764 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
  8837 | D:8      | Noticed a brown ugly thing
  8872 | D:8      | Killed a brown ugly thing
  9551 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You are missing a hand. [Ru sacrifice]
  9551 | D:8      | Reached * piety under Ru
  9551 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Ru
  9551 | D:8      | Reached *** piety under Ru
  9744 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9788 | D:8      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  9920 | D:8      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 75/86 MP: 15/15
 10084 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Long Blades
 11863 | D:9      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 12350 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed hydra
 12391 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed hydra
 12757 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 12776 | D:10     | Gained mutation: You are somewhat inexperienced. (-2 XL) [Ru sacrifice]
 12776 | D:10     | Reached XP level 10. HP: 82/82 MP: 14/14
 12776 | D:10     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 75/75 MP: 13/13
 12776 | D:10     | Reached **** piety under Ru
 12776 | D:10     | Reached ***** piety under Ru
 12924 | D:10     | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 12924 | D:10     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 12931 | D:10     | Noticed a purple ugly thing
 12936 | D:10     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12936 | D:10     | Reached skill level 9 in Long Blades
 12936 | D:10     | Reached XP level 10. HP: 56/83 MP: 5/14
 12940 | D:10     | Killed a purple ugly thing
 13271 | D:10     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 13337 | D:10     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 14025 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 14081 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 61/89 MP: 15/15
 14626 | D:11     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 14669 | D:11     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 14789 | D:11     | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 14800 | D:11     | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 14800 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 14800 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades
 14800 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 15176 | D:11     | Noticed an unseen horror
 15182 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 15441 | D:11     | Noticed a green ugly thing
 15477 | D:11     | Killed a green ugly thing
 15685 | D:11     | Reached skill level 11 in Long Blades
 15711 | D:11     | Gained mutation: You cannot be stealthy. [Ru sacrifice]
 15711 | D:11     | Reached ****** piety under Ru
 16418 | D:12     | Noticed a purple ugly thing
 16421 | D:12     | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
 16428 | D:12     | Noticed Harold
 16441 | D:12     | Killed a purple ugly thing
 16474 | D:11     | Killed a purple ugly thing
 16474 | D:11     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 57/97 MP: 16/16
 16600 | D:11     | Gained mutation: You evolve. [mutagenic meat]
 16683 | D:12     | Killed Harold
 16710 | D:12     | Killed an unseen horror
 16710 | D:12     | Reached skill level 12 in Long Blades
 16845 | D:12     | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors!
 17048 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 17274 | D:13     | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates. (SH +4) [evolution]
 17380 | D:13     | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
 17570 | D:12     | Found Saucegag's Quality Used Wands.
 17676 | D:12     | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 17683 | D:12     | Noticed Maurice
 17687 | D:12     | Killed a five-headed hydra
 17696 | D:12     | Killed Maurice
 17696 | D:12     | Reached skill level 13 in Long Blades
 17876 | D:12     | Bought a wand of clouds (0/9) for 192 gold pieces
 18695 | D:12     | Noticed Erolcha
 18704 | D:12     | Killed Erolcha
 19014 | D:13     | Noticed an ogre mage
 19025 | D:13     | Killed an ogre mage
 19025 | D:13     | Reached skill level 14 in Long Blades
 19073 | D:13     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 103/103 MP: 17/17
 19721 | D:13     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 19745 | D:13     | Killed a centaur warrior
 20295 | D:14     | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 20766 | D:14     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 20775 | D:14     | Killed a centaur warrior
 20903 | D:14     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 20919 | D:14     | Killed a centaur warrior
 21323 | D:14     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 21339 | D:14     | Killed a centaur warrior
 21460 | D:14     | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 21770 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 |
---------------+----------------------------------------+-----
Long Blades    |           4        5  6  9  7 11 14    | 14.0
Dodging        |              4     5  6  7  8 10       | 10.2
Fighting       |              4     5  6  9  7 10       | 10.1
Throwing       |                 1  2  4  8  6  7       |  8.2
Evocations     |                    1  3  4  6       10 | 10.4
Stealth        |                                0       |  0.0

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Falchion          |   100 |   230 |   159 |       |       ||   489
       Dagger            |       |    25 |     6 |    26 |     3 ||    60
       Scimitar          |       |       |   185 |   779 |   201 ||  1165
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |       |    11 |    61 |     5 ||    77
       Shortbow          |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Throw: Stone             |       |    84 |   109 |   605 |    86 ||   884
       Javelin           |       |       |     2 |     5 |       ||     7
Invok: Sacrifice Purity  |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Apocalypse        |       |       |     1 |     1 |     1 ||     3
       Sacrifice Experie |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Draw Out Power    |       |       |       |     3 |     1 ||     4
       Sacrifice a Hand  |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Sacrifice Stealth |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Power Leap        |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     5 |    12 |       ||    17
       Sack of spiders   |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Phantom mirror    |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     1 |     7 |     4 |    13 |     3 ||    28
       Potion            |       |     1 |     1 |     3 |       ||     5
 Stab: Sleeping          |     7 |     1 |     1 |       |       ||     9
       Confused          |       |       |     2 |     1 |       ||     3
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     4 |     1 ||     6
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |    14 |     6 ||    20
       Invisible         |       |       |       |     3 |     1 ||     4
  Eat: Chunk             |     2 |     8 |    11 |    24 |       ||    45
       Meat ration       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     2 ||     5
       Fruit             |       |       |       |     6 |       ||     6
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Armor: Robe              |     4 |       |       |       |       ||     4
       Ring mail         |     9 |    63 |   119 |   233 |    32 ||   456
Dodge: Dodged            |    58 |   135 |   264 |   526 |    77 ||  1060
Block: Other             |       |       |       |    13 |    28 ||    41
Rpst.: Falchion          |    22 |    32 |    43 |       |       ||    97
       Scimitar          |       |       |    45 |   131 |    14 ||   190



I made it to D:15 on the fist try, but havn't cleared it yet. I used longblades instead of M&F whick makes little difference, but I also went Ru instead of Oka.

Entering lair of beasts as soon as you find it is a good idea. The stuff there tends to be pretty weak compared to what you face after D:9 or so, and it gives a lot of exp, as well as floorspace to find loot. L:6 is the end and is tougher than 1-5 and might be worth avoiding until a little later, but is still probably easier than D:12-15. L:6 also has extra loot.

[HawkI]

I did it! I went down the stairs not clearing floor 14, because well I was just wandering around floor 14 and then the fire elemental Azerial just blasted a third of my hit points away (in one hit) (I was at full hit points). I came downstairs to a graveyard, I approached a skeleton, another skeleton stood on the stairs so I couldn't get back up. Next thing I knew I was surrounded by Skeletons and died.

I used the wands more effectively this time, fighting groups rather than individuals. I know all the tricks but there are probably things I'm doing wrong.

But I don't mind, I made it

[pedritolo]

You're not done yet! There's a portal to the depths there, you should keep going until you reach zot. And no side branches, ofc.

[edgefigaro]

One of the challenges during the bi-annual tournament is to defeat the game without entering lair, orc, or vaults. It takes you directly to D15 and then into depths, which is approaching the early endame content for a 3 rune game. I generally attempt it with a very powerful character (VSBe is a favorite of mine.)

It is quite fun.



Kikubaaqudgha wants players to demonstrate their mastery over the forces of darkness without delay, and will recognise a player who shows disdain for the Lair as a LORD OF DARKNESS.
I: Reach the last level of the Orcish Mines without having entered the Lair.
II: Reach the last level of the Depths without having entered the Lair.
III: Win a game without having entered the Lair, the Orcish Mines, or the Vaults (+50 tournament points).