Ignition vs Shatter


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Tartarus Sorceror

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Post Sunday, 30th July 2017, 23:39

Ignition vs Shatter

Going for crowd control (i.e. mass killing), which one is better? I have never had shatter online, so I am asking. My experience with ignition was quite incredible. The spell ends up making the most dangerous situations into the easiest to solve, because the most enemies on the screen, the more fireballs will be dropped on them (although I am not sure if the fireballs overlap). However, ignition has troubles with fire resistance (and maybe AC?).
Shatter instead has problems with flying creatures, and I don't think the effects normally overlap, with the exception of brittle enemies. So I wonder if the damage total is really higher than ignition, in normal conditions.

Which one would you choose, with both castable, but only 9 free spell slots left?
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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 00:03

Re: Ignition vs Shatter

They're both great. Tough choice.

Ignition fireballs do overlap: it's excellent again dense packs (e.g. Zigs) because of this.

Shatter is excellent except against flying monsters, which is a good chunk of extended threats. Notably, it is great in Tomb because only sphinxes fly and because it knocks down walls giving you safer routes to stairs. Be careful with death curses though: don't kill too many senior mummies at one time with low HP.

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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 00:25

Re: Ignition vs Shatter

shatter

ignition sucks against single targets, shatter doesn't and it also lets you skip large parts of tomb and hell ends

WTF kind of character are you playing where both of these spells are castable and fire storm isn't, though?

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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 00:42

Re: Ignition vs Shatter

Spell books are weighted now so you only find the more powerful ones on lower dungeon levels/ Which means there's a decent chance you won't find the top tier conjuration book which I can not spell and am too lazy to look it up - I just did a 15 rune Gozag (!!!) game and didn't find the necronomicon 'till the slime pits and never found the grand grimoire (did I spell THAT right?) at all.

It seems fairly common to not find every spell in the game in a 3 runer. I'm currently running a Gargoyle Fire ELementalist around Zot, and haven't found Orb of Destruction yet.

(I'm not sure that's what happened, but it's certainly possible!)
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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 02:23

Re: Ignition vs Shatter

Also, since we're here - does ignition work against summoned critters? If so... Mmmm boy!
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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 12:42

Re: Ignition vs Shatter

I really think it does, although I haven't tried it recently.

duvessa wrote:shatter

ignition sucks against single targets, shatter doesn't and it also lets you skip large parts of tomb and hell ends

WTF kind of character are you playing where both of these spells are castable and fire storm isn't, though?


Fire storm is still at 12%. In the meantime, I have learnt both shatter and ignition. I think I will try to learn OoD to have something to throw at Orbs of Fire from long distance. Maybe forget the battlesphere, I never use it anyway.

Shatter on V:5 has been a blast, stairdancing has never been so easy! And Veh gifting your MP back is even better. Now I am thinking of doing Tomb, but I am worried about the weird new stairs.

Should I raise fire magic to learn fire storm? I also have an artifact ring with r. of fire on it.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1 (tiles) character file.

Fala the Sorcerer (Gargoyle Earth Elementalist)    Turns: 98692, Time: 06:55:35

Health: 186/186    AC: 47    Str: 14    XL:     27
Magic:  50/50      EV: 17    Int: 44    God:    Vehumet [******]
Gold:   8931       SH: 17    Dex: 15    Spells: 2/72 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .   p - staff of earth
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   s - +5 buckler of Teivithro {+Fly rN+ Str+3}
rNeg     + + +     Faith    .   Z - quicksilver dragon scales
rPois    8         Spirit   .   I - +2 helmet {Int+3}
rElec    +         Reflect  +   b - +2 ratskin cloak {+Rats rPois rN+ Str-1 Int-1 Dex+1}
rCorr    .         Harm     .   B - +0 pair of gloves of Lutaah {rC+ MR+}
MR       +++++                  q - +1 pair of boots {Fly}
Stlth    ++........             S - +6 amulet of reflection
Regen    0.5/turn               J - ring of the Mage {Wiz MR++ Int+3}
MPRegen  0.4/turn               U - ring "Niteagg" {Fire +Blink MR- Int+10 Dex+6}

@: flying, studying Dodging
A: big wings, clumsy 1, negative energy resistance 1, electricity resistance,
wild magic 1, unbreathing, petrification resistance, no potion heal 1, rot
immunity, AC +20
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, silver, gossamer
a: Stop Flying, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink, Evoke Ratskin


You are on level 5 of the Depths.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and seen 47 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Ice Cave and Wizlab.

You have collected 11898 gold pieces.
You have spent 2967 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 X - a +9 eveningstar of flaming
Missiles
 R - 821 stones (quivered)
Armour
 b - the +2 ratskin cloak (worn) {+Rats rPois rN+ Str-1 Int-1 Dex+1}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It affects your strength (-1).
   It affects your intelligence (-1).
   It affects your dexterity (+1).
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 j - +2 ice dragon scales
 q - a +1 pair of boots of flying (worn)
 s - the +5 buckler of Teivithro (worn) {+Fly rN+ Str+3}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you fly.
 B - the +0 pair of gloves of Lutaah (worn) {rC+ MR+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 I - a +2 helmet of intelligence (worn)
 Z - quicksilver dragon scales (worn)
Magical Staves
 p - an uncursed staff of earth (weapon)
Jewellery
 k - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 J - the ring of the Mage (left hand) {Wiz MR++ Int+3}
   (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 N - the ring of Desertification {MR+ Str+4 SInv}
   (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you see invisible.
 S - a +6 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 U - the ring "Niteagg" (right hand) {Fire +Blink MR- Int+10 Dex+6}
   (You took it off a deep elf knight on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of fire]
   
   It enhances your fire magic.
   It affects your intelligence (+10).
   It affects your dexterity (+6).
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you blink.
 W - the ring of the Orange Skies {Wiz Int+4 Slay+3}
   (You took it off a deep elf archer on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+3).
Wands
 a - a wand of digging (9/24)
 e - a wand of lightning (4/15)
 E - a wand of acid (14/15)
 H - a wand of iceblast (4/15)
 M - a wand of acid (?/15)
 V - a wand of scattershot (3/9)
Scrolls
 h - 8 scrolls of fog
 l - 8 scrolls of recharging
 o - 3 scrolls of identify
 r - 20 scrolls of teleportation
 u - 29 scrolls of remove curse
 y - 15 scrolls of amnesia
 C - 6 scrolls of blinking
 D - 3 scrolls of holy word
 K - 9 scrolls of fear
 L - 5 scrolls of summoning
 O - 5 scrolls of magic mapping
 T - a scroll of silence
Potions
 c - 5 potions of cancellation
 f - 8 potions of agility
 g - 12 potions of heal wounds
 i - 2 potions of resistance
 m - 10 potions of lignification
 t - 7 potions of ambrosia
 w - 3 potions of brilliance
 x - 5 potions of invisibility
 z - 8 potions of magic
 A - 17 potions of might
 G - 10 potions of haste
 P - 14 potions of curing
Books
 F - a manual of Dodging
Miscellaneous
 Q - 2 phantom mirrors
 Y - 3 sacks of spiders
Comestibles
 d - 36 bread rations
 n - 7 meat rations
 v - 7 fruits


   Skills:
 * Level 22,8 Fighting
   Level 4,8 Short Blades
 + Level 15,6 Maces & Flails
 - Level 15,2 Armour
 * Level 10,6 Dodging
 - Level 4,3 Stealth
 - Level 6,5 Shields
 - Level 23,1 Spellcasting
 - Level 17,1 Conjurations
 + Level 0,1 Charms
 - Level 2,6 Translocations
 - Level 4,0 Transmutations
 - Level 12,6 Fire Magic
 + Level 6,6 Air Magic
 - Level 21,5 Earth Magic


You have 2 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Sandblast             Erth           ######       1%          1    None
b - Stone Arrow           Conj/Erth      ######       1%          3    None
c - Passwall              Tmut/Erth      ########..   1%          2    None
d - Petrify               Tmut/Erth      ########     1%          4    None
e - Lee's Rapid Deconstr  Erth           #########.   1%          5    None
f - Airstrike             Air            #######...   1%          4    None
g - Iskenderun's Battles  Conj/Chrm      ########     1%          5    None
h - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      ########     1%          3    None
i - Bolt of Magma         Conj/Fire/Erth #########.   1%          5    None
j - Fireball              Conj/Fire      #########.   1%          5    None
k - Iron Shot             Conj/Erth      #########.   1%          6    None
l - Lehudib's Crystal Sp  Conj/Erth      #########.   1%          8    None
m - Ignition              Fire           ########..   3%          8    None
n - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          1%          2    None
o - Shatter               Erth           #########.   1%          9    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (0/1) D:6            Lair (6/6) D:11
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:2       Spider (4/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:11            Elf (3/3) Orc:2        Vaults (5/5) D:14
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:2       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15
    Zot (0/5) Depths:5   

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Kikubaaqudgha
Nemelex Xobeh
Ru
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Beogh

Shops:
D:10 [   Orc:2 :!(%   Elf:2 [   Elf:3 :   Vaults:5 %%%?%!%??*?}   Depths:5 :(*:

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:4
Pandemonium: Orc:2 Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:3


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
Your stone body is resilient. (AC +20)
You are immune to poison.
Your large and strong wings let you fly indefinitely.
You resist negative energy. (rN+)
You are resistant to electric shocks. (rElec)
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
You are immune to rotting.
You are clumsy. (Dex -2)
Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful.
Potions are less effective at restoring your health.


Message History

Search for what [? for help]?
Okay, then.
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Search for what [? for help]? resist cold
Unknown command.
Done exploring.
Done exploring.
Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands.
Returning to the game...
New annotation for Depths:5 (include '!' for warning):
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Okay, then.
Char dumped to 'C:/Users/Alessandro/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/Fala.txt'.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  An ancient lich (Crypt:3)
  A juggernaut (Depths:4)
  Sojobo (Vaults:4)
  the Lernaean hydra (Swamp:4)
  Bai Suzhen (Swamp:4)
  Boris (Crypt:1)
  Margery (Vaults:5)
  2 caustic shrikes (Depths:2)
  5 bone dragons
  A profane servitor (Crypt:1)
  4 golden dragons
  4 tentacled monstrosities
  5 liches
  3 titans
  A shard shrike skeleton (Crypt:1)
  3 deep elf blademasters
  Asterion (Elf:2)
  2 deep elf master archers (Elf:3)
  A moon troll (WizLab)
  6 quicksilver dragons
  6 sphinxes
  9 ancient champions
  13 tengu reavers
  7 tentacled starspawn
  7 storm dragons
  Roxanne (Spider:2)
  3 shadow dragons (Vaults:5)
  2 thorn hunters (Swamp:3)
  Donald (Spider:2)
  3 revenants
  4 fire giants
  19 vault wardens
  15 frost giants
  A draconian knight (Depths:5)
  A cacodemon (WizLab)
  4 ghost moths
  8 emperor scorpions
  An iron dragon (Vaults:5)
  12 ghouls
  2 deep elf sorcerers (Elf:3)
  2 curse skulls
  3 spriggan defenders
  36 stone giants
  A draconian annihilator (Abyss:2)
  7 deep elf elementalists
  13 ironheart preservers
  A caustic shrike zombie (Crypt:1)
  24 very ugly things
  A draconian stormcaller (Depths:5)
  7 vampire knights
  3 war gargoyles (Vaults:5)
  8 entropy weavers
  Azrael (D:14)
  10 deep elf annihilators
  4 deep elf demonologists
  A red draconian (Depths:5)
  2 white draconians (Depths:5)
  10 eidola
  The ghost of Dep the Basher, a journeyman MiWn of Ashenzari (Lair:1)
  The ghost of Lez the Zephyrmancer, a journeyman DrAE of Makhleb (Lair:1)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  5 spark wasps
  14 ettins
  10 jiangshi
  14 deep elf death magi
  A merfolk javelineer (Depths:4)
  7 deep elf high priests
  12 fire dragons
  18 ogre magi
  5 rakshasas
  31 vault guards
  17 yaktaur captains
  16 great orbs of eyes
  30 hydras
  17 ice dragons
  A hydra (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  A juggernaut simulacrum (Depths:4)
  3 spriggan air magi
  2 ghost crabs (Swamp:2)
  4 death knights
  10 death yaks (Lair:6)
  An alligator (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  30 dancing weapons
  3 catoblepae (Lair:6)
  71 two-headed ogres
  5 alligators
  10 deep troll shamans
  5 deep troll earth magi
  5 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  Urug (D:10)
  9 centaur warriors
  12 tengu warriors
  A queen ant (Spider:3)
  A titan zombie (Depths:4)
  11 vampire magi
  A sun demon (Abyss:2)
  23 deep elf knights
  A soul eater (Depths:1)
  A shock serpent (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  57 skeletal warriors
  2 titan skeletons
  2 shadow wraiths
  5 spriggan berserkers
  11 hell knights
  A salamander mystic (Depths:3)
  2 wretched stars
  7 iron trolls
  An unseen horror (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  A swamp dragon (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  A golden dragon zombie (Depths:4)
  23 deep trolls
  9 flayed ghosts
  2 glowing orange brains (shapeshifter)
  A spriggan druid (Swamp:2)
  4 unseen horrors
  2 storm dragon skeletons (Crypt:3)
  3 gelid demonspawn (Orc:2)
  3 shambling mangroves
  10 swamp dragons
  14 deep elf archers
  8 glowing orange brains
  A tengu zombie (Depths:4)
  7 necromancers
  An orange crystal statue (WizLab)
  65 deep elf magi
  A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  13 ironbrand convokers
  7 wizards
  17 orc knights
  An orb spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  13 orb spiders
  2 wolf spiders (shapeshifter)
  A shadow dragon skeleton (Crypt:3)
  47 ugly things
  10 orc sorcerers
  16 phantasmal warriors
  40 wolf spiders
  A moth of wrath (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  2 manticores (Lair:6)
  6 salamanders
  A mana viper (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
  A cyclops (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
  7 cyclopes
  A stone giant zombie (Vaults:2)
  A moth of wrath (Spider:2)
  3 black mambas
  A salamander (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  A shock serpent zombie (Crypt:1)
  2 stone giant skeletons (Crypt:3)
  21 elephants
  2 rust devils
  12 vault sentinels
  2 ice statues
  2 frost giant skeletons (Crypt:3)
  2 smoke demons
  4 torpor snails
  An eye of devastation (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  A fire giant skeleton (Crypt:3)
  A spiny frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  25 spiny frogs
  2 orange demons
  3 shock serpent skeletons (Crypt:3)
  A guardian serpent (Abyss:2)
  2 human zombies (Vaults:2)
  6 eyes of devastation (WizLab)
  A rime drake (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  4 rime drakes
  A hellion (Depths:3)
  20 demonic crawlers
  A dire elephant skeleton (Crypt:2)
  A kobold demonologist (D:14)
  2 komodo dragons
  A redback zombie (D:14)
  66 yaktaurs
  An efreet (Abyss:2)
  2 hellwings (Depths:1)
  10 tengu conjurers
  An ice devil (Depths:3)
  A pale draconian skeleton (Crypt:1)
  An ancient zyme (Abyss:2)
  17 freezing wraiths
  5 red devils
  A harpy zombie (Crypt:2)
  A jumping spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  42 jumping spiders
  A death drake zombie (Crypt:2)
  2 trolls (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  9 trolls
  A hornet (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  6 meliai
  A catoblepas skeleton (Crypt:2)
  13 tyrant leeches
  21 hornets
  A hydra skeleton (Crypt:3)
  A queen bee (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  24 blink frogs
  A meliai zombie (Crypt:2)
  13 bog bodies
  25 polar bears
  An ettin zombie (Vaults:2)
  2 hippogriffs (shapeshifter)
  50 slime creatures
  8 hippogriffs
  A centaur simulacrum (D:14)
  10 large abominations
  6 spriggans
  An alligator skeleton (Crypt:3)
  An ice dragon skeleton (Crypt:3)
  A black mamba zombie (Crypt:3)
  10 flying skulls
  2 tarantellas (shapeshifter)
  A fire dragon skeleton (Crypt:3)
  5 shadows
  12 water elementals
  6 air elementals
  16 wraiths
  A ynoxinul (Abyss:2)
  88 redbacks
  39 tarantellas
  4 wyverns
  A hog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  Eustachio (D:4)
  5 fire elementals
  63 yaks
  6 golden eyes (WizLab)
  Grum (D:10)
  4 small abominations (Depths:4)
  2 yaks (shapeshifter)
  2 fire bats
  2 steam dragons
  4 basilisks
  A neqoxec (WizLab)
  2 chaos spawn (Depths:4)
  A wyvern (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  A hungry ghost (D:12)
  22 wargs
  13 vampire mosquitoes
  20 insubstantial wisps
  7 acid dragons
  23 swamp worms
  7 soldier ants
  Duvessa (D:4)
  An infernal demonspawn zombie (Crypt:3)
  3 hell hounds (D:14)
  A gelid demonspawn zombie (Crypt:2)
  13 water moccasins
  A floating eye (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  A floating eye (Depths:2)
  13 porcupines
  A torturous demonspawn skeleton (Crypt:3)
  An elephant zombie (Crypt:1)
  4 phantoms
  60 orc warriors
  17 swamp drakes
  An eye of draining (D:13)
  5 ice beasts
  An ice beast (shapeshifter) (Depths:1)
  46 ogres
  5 sky beasts
  2 eyes of draining (shapeshifter)
  2 necrophages
  6 boggarts
  29 wolves
  A swamp dragon skeleton (Crypt:3)
  2 snapping turtle skeletons
  2 human skeletons
  20 centaurs
  A manticore skeleton (Crypt:3)
  13 crocodiles
  A lindwurm skeleton (Crypt:3)
  3 big kobolds
  19 bullfrogs
  2 gnoll sergeants
  A salamander skeleton (Crypt:1)
  A draconian zombie (Crypt:1)
  Dowan (D:4)
  2 earth elementals
  2 ogre simulacra (Vaults:1)
  2 wyvern skeletons
  A spriggan zombie (Crypt:1)
  4 scorpions
  5 killer bees (D:8)
  4 wights (D:14)
  A spriggan skeleton (Lab)
  A howler monkey (D:13)
  5 electric eels
  9 crimson imps
  A wolf zombie (Crypt:3)
  2 bullfrog zombies
  7 centaur zombies
  7 hounds
  2 bullfrog skeletons (D:5)
  29 orc priests
  4 jellies
  34 orc wizards
  Ijyb (D:4)
  5 centaur skeletons
  9 iron imps
  19 worker ants
  4 iguanas
  A porcupine zombie (Crypt:3)
  A killer bee zombie (D:6)
  An ogre skeleton (Crypt:3)
  A deep dwarf skeleton (Crypt:1)
  A hound skeleton (D:9)
  A worker ant zombie (D:8)
  10 gnolls
  A scorpion zombie (Crypt:3)
  8 adders
  3 shadow imps
  13 white imps
  2 ufetubi (Abyss:2)
  An ooze (D:1)
  An adder zombie (D:6)
  3 adder skeletons
  2 worms
  7 leopard geckos
  154 orcs
  2 ball pythons
  4 bats
  A bat skeleton (Crypt:2)
  5 giant cockroaches
  3 goblins
  7 hobgoblins
  10 jackals
  18 kobolds
  7 quokkas
  4 frilled lizards
  A gnoll skeleton (Crypt:1)
  A jackal skeleton (D:5)
  A quokka skeleton (D:6)
  6 rats
  A rat skeleton (Crypt:3)
  3 briar patches (Swamp:3)
  2 crawling corpses (Elf:3)
  2 plants (Lair:6)
  7 starspawn tentacles (WizLab)
2723 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  3 stone giants
  4 yaktaur captains
  2 centaur warriors
  2 deep elf knights (Vaults:4)
  A cyclops (Vaults:2)
  A deep elf mage (Elf:3)
  9 yaktaurs
  A redback (Spider:4)
  An air elemental (Depths:4)
  An ogre (Depths:1)
  2 centaurs
  An orc (Orc:1)
  A kobold (D:9)
  4 briar patches (Swamp:3)
  A demonic plant (WizLab)
  16 fungi
  11 plants
  3 starspawn tentacles (WizLab)
  7 withered plants (Crypt:3)
71 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2794 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Fala the Gargoyle Earth Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 3/3
   280 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 14/15 MP: 3/5
   755 | D:1      | Gained mutation: Potions are less effective at restoring your health. [potion of mutation]
   755 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [potion of mutation]
   755 | D:1      | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of mutation]
   857 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 4/6
  1733 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Stone Arrow
  1736 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Passwall
  1779 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 6/8
  1802 | D:3      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
  1811 | D:3      | Noticed a dagger
  1811 | D:3      | Noticed a dagger
  1959 | D:3      | Reached skill level 3 in Spellcasting
  2545 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
  2545 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 10/10
  2612 | D:4      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  2612 | D:4      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  2699 | D:4      | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
  2784 | D:4      | Noticed Duvessa
  2784 | D:4      | Noticed Dowan
  2784 | D:4      | Noticed Eustachio
  2795 | D:4      | Killed Duvessa
  2795 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
  2795 | D:4      | Reached skill level 4 in Spellcasting
  2795 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/32 MP: 0/12
  2801 | D:4      | Killed Dowan
  2801 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  2886 | D:4      | Killed Eustachio
  2886 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  2886 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
  2886 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 30/36 MP: 10/13
  3047 | D:4      | Noticed Ijyb
  3064 | D:4      | Killed Ijyb
  3504 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3526 | D:5      | Reached * piety under Vehumet
  3526 | D:5      | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet.
  3587 | D:5      | Learned a level 4 spell: Petrify
  3593 | D:5      | Learned a level 5 spell: Lee's Rapid Deconstruction
  3621 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 42/42 MP: 15/15
  3642 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  4344 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4616 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting
  4666 | D:6      | Offered knowledge of Throw Frost by Vehumet.
  4976 | D:6      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  4980 | D:6      | Reached ** piety under Vehumet
  5057 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 44/46 MP: 18/18
  6269 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations
  6316 | D:7      | Got an ichor-stained ring mail
  6327 | D:7      | Identified the +2 ring mail of Atheism {rPois rC+ rN+} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  6350 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting
  6394 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6440 | D:7      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  6577 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  6920 | D:7      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  7179 | D:8      | Offered knowledge of Mephitic Cloud by Vehumet.
  7179 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  7179 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 51/51 MP: 21/21
  7224 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Earth Magic
  7310 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting
  7388 | D:8      | Reached *** piety under Vehumet
  7757 | D:8      | Got a crude rapier
  7758 | D:8      | Identified the +6 rapier of World Downfall {venom, rElec Dex+4} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  8131 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  8169 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  8174 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  8175 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  8184 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  8186 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  8188 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  8288 | D:9      | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet.
  8294 | D:9      | Learned a level 4 spell: Airstrike
  8383 | D:9      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  8684 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
  8898 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  8905 | D:10     | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting
  9057 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 56/56 MP: 24/24
  9073 | D:10     | Noticed Urug
  9092 | D:10     | Killed Urug
  9251 | D:10     | Found Rihusk's Armour Boutique.
  9358 | D:10     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  9370 | D:10     | Killed a two-headed ogre
  9370 | D:10     | Reached **** piety under Vehumet
  9573 | D:10     | Noticed Grum
  9615 | D:10     | Killed Grum
  9615 | D:10     | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Battlesphere by Vehumet.
  9622 | D:10     | Learned a level 5 spell: Iskenderun's Battlesphere
  9975 | D:10     | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
 10008 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 10029 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic
 10449 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 10578 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 11259 | D:12     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 11294 | D:11     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 11513 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 11522 | Lair:1   | Noticed Dep's ghost (journeyman MiWn)
 11545 | Lair:1   | Killed Dep's ghost
 11545 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 49/61 MP: 5/26
 12206 | Lair:1   | Noticed Lez's ghost (journeyman DrAE)
 12742 | Lair:2   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 12784 | Lair:2   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 12793 | Lair:2   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 13154 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
 13311 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 13864 | Lair:3   | Found a frozen archway.
 13871 | Lair:3   | Reached ***** piety under Vehumet
 13871 | Lair:3   | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Magma by Vehumet.
 13913 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting
 13942 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 14281 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic
 14348 | IceCv    | Learned a level 5 spell: Bolt of Magma
 14823 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 13. HP: 67/67 MP: 9/28
 15572 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 15582 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
 15585 | IceCv    | Killed a frost giant
 16783 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 18314 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting
 19662 | Lair:5   | Gained mutation: Your large and strong wings let you fly indefinitely. [Gargoyle growth]
 19662 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 72/72 MP: 17/30
 20888 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 21538 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 21691 | Lair:6   | Identified the amulet of the Eagle {+Rage rElec SInv} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 21979 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 15 in Earth Magic
 22876 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 23252 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting
 23288 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 41/76 MP: 8/32
 23883 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 24338 | Orc:1    | Offered knowledge of Ozocubu's Refrigeration by Vehumet.
 24376 | Orc:1    | Reached ****** piety under Vehumet
 24818 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 25886 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 26097 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 26176 | Orc:2    | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball
 26451 | Orc:2    | Found Doilixt's Food Shop.
 26541 | Orc:2    | Found Miruir's Distillery.
 27900 | Orc:2    | Found Edoig's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 27900 | Orc:2    | Found Izxifuv's Book Shoppe.
 27901 | Orc:2    | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 27918 | Orc:2    | Bought a steaming spear for 280 gold pieces
 27918 | Orc:2    | Identified the +8 spear "Miaffeuz" {flame, rC+} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 28044 | Orc:2    | Bought a book of the Earth for 715 gold pieces
 28044 | Orc:2    | Bought a book of Fire for 715 gold pieces
 28893 | D:12     | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet.
 28913 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 29080 | D:12     | Identified the cursed +0 hand crossbow of Giunulla {speed, rF++ Dex+3} (You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 30676 | D:13     | Offered knowledge of Venom Bolt by Vehumet.
 31201 | D:13     | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 31249 | D:13     | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 31574 | D:13     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 81/81 MP: 33/33
 31758 | D:13     | Identified the ring of Desertification {MR+ Str+4 SInv} (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 32229 | D:13     | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic
 32397 | D:14     | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 32450 | D:14     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 32465 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 32649 | Lab      | Found an exit through the horrors of the Abyss.
 32840 | Lab      | Identified the Disquisition on the Rocks
 32844 | Lab      | Identified Situdghi's Tome of Enchantment
 32846 | Lab      | Identified the cursed +2 dagger of Greatest Utility {speed, Fragile Int+5 Dex+2} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 33035 | D:14     | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 33306 | D:14     | Noticed Azrael
 33330 | D:14     | Killed Azrael
 33496 | D:14     | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Cold by Vehumet.
 34062 | D:14     | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting
 34130 | D:14     | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 34268 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 34346 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 34475 | D:15     | Identified the cursed +0 pair of gloves of Dishonesty {MR++ MP-9} (You found it on level 15 of the Dungeon)
 34821 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 36230 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 36952 | Lair:1   | Killed Lez's ghost
 37184 | Swamp:1  | Offered knowledge of Spellforged Servitor by Vehumet.
 38281 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 38641 | Swamp:2  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 72/86 MP: 34/35
 40421 | Swamp:3  | Offered knowledge of Orb of Destruction by Vehumet.
 41144 | Swamp:3  | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
 41714 | Swamp:3  | Learned a level 6 spell: Iron Shot
 41722 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 42486 | Swamp:4  | Noticed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra
 42754 | Swamp:4  | Offered knowledge of Lehudib's Crystal Spear by Vehumet.
 42754 | Swamp:4  | Offered knowledge of Fire Storm by Vehumet.
 42754 | Swamp:4  | Offered knowledge of Glaciate by Vehumet.
 43022 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 43523 | Swamp:4  | Noticed Bai Suzhen
 43528 | Swamp:4  | Killed Bai Suzhen
 43528 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting
 43722 | Swamp:4  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 96/96 MP: 29/38
 43737 | Swamp:4  | Killed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra
 44277 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 44824 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 46548 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting
 48151 | Spider:2 | Noticed Donald
 48153 | Spider:2 | Killed Donald
 48316 | Spider:2 | Noticed Roxanne
 48322 | Spider:2 | Killed Roxanne
 50125 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting
 50362 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 104/104 MP: 38/41
 51269 | Spider:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Spider Nest
 53980 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 19 in Spellcasting
 54351 | Spider:4 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 54841 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 56720 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 112/112 MP: 34/43
 58280 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 20 in Spellcasting
 59208 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 59208 | Vaults:2 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 59209 | Vaults:2 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 61498 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 120/120 MP: 45/45
 62452 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 62501 | Vaults:3 | Got a twitching jade ring
 62568 | Vaults:3 | Identified the ring of the Orange Skies {Wiz Int+4 Slay+3} (You took it off a deep elf archer on level 3 of the Vaults)
 62608 | Vaults:3 | Learned a level 8 spell: Lehudib's Crystal Spear
 62617 | Vaults:3 | Learned a level 8 spell: Ignition
 64395 | Vaults:4 | Got a wavering brass amulet
 64396 | Vaults:4 | Identified the amulet of Noipt {Harm *Drain Str+2} (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 64603 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations
 64934 | Vaults:4 | Got a dazzling chain mail
 64959 | Vaults:4 | Identified the +3 chain mail "Bafotsy" {rElec Int+4 Dex+5} (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 66199 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 120/128 MP: 21/46
 67358 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 68341 | Elf:1    | Identified the +5 buckler of Teivithro {+Fly rN+ Str+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
 68647 | Elf:1    | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 68838 | Elf:2    | Noticed Asterion
 68963 | Elf:2    | Killed Asterion
 69388 | Elf:2    | Found Suykueg's Armour Shop.
 69397 | Elf:2    | Bought the +2 ratskin cloak {+Rats rPois rN+ Str-1 Int-1 Dex+1} for 528 gold pieces
 69606 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 69670 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 69675 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 70027 | Elf:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 70821 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 71278 | Elf:3    | Found Yroim's Book Shoppe.
 71989 | Elf:3    | Reached XP level 23. HP: 122/135 MP: 14/47
 72519 | Elf:3    | Identified the +7 chain mail of Pan-Flutes {MR+++ MP-9 Dex+6} (You took it off a deep elf high priest on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 72747 | Elf:3    | Identified the ring "Niteagg" {Fire +Blink MR- Int+10 Dex+6} (You took it off a deep elf knight on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 73296 | Elf:3    | Got a shimmering plate armour
 73307 | Elf:3    | Identified the +1 plate armour "Raedwiarr" {rF- rC+ Str+4} (You took it off a deep elf high priest on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 73650 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 73668 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 21 in Spellcasting
 73679 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell.
 73786 | Depths:1 | Found a magical portal.
 73838 | WizLab   | Entered Lehudib's Moon Base
 74986 | WizLab   | Got a pair of pitted boots
 75000 | WizLab   | Identified the +0 pair of boots of Car Wican {-Tele MR+ Str+6} (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
 75621 | WizLab   | Found a transporter.
 75767 | WizLab   | Identified Lehudib's Almanac of Shifting Earth
 76490 | WizLab   | Found a transporter.
 77177 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 78475 | Vaults:4 | Got a twisted plate armour
 78486 | Vaults:4 | Identified the +10 plate armour of Grace {Int+3} (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 79100 | Depths:1 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 142/142 MP: 30/48
 79323 | Depths:1 | Cast into level 2 of the Abyss (a wizard)
 79413 | Abyss:2  | Identified the +3 scale mail "Moiz" {rElec Stlth+} (You found it on level 2 of the Abyss)
 79514 | Abyss:2  | Identified the Collected Works on Combat Magic
 79518 | Abyss:2  | Identified the Almanac of Earth
 79528 | Abyss:2  | Identified the Papyrus of the Blaze
 79530 | Abyss:2  | Identified the Tome of Transmigration
 79534 | Abyss:2  | Identified the Reference Book on the Compass
 79536 | Abyss:2  | Identified Sif Muna's Tome of Translocation
 79636 | Abyss:2  | Identified the Papyrus of the Cockatrice
 79715 | Depths:1 | Escaped the Abyss
 81745 | Crypt:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt
 82479 | Crypt:1  | Reached skill level 22 in Spellcasting
 83858 | Crypt:1  | Noticed Boris
 83859 | Crypt:1  | Killed Boris
 84197 | Crypt:1  | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 85477 | Crypt:3  | Entered Level 3 of the Crypt
 85536 | Crypt:3  | Reached XP level 25. HP: 148/148 MP: 27/49
 85739 | Crypt:3  | Reached skill level 23 in Spellcasting
 85786 | Crypt:3  | Learned a level 9 spell: Shatter
 86895 | Crypt:3  | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 86905 | Crypt:3  | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
 87032 | Crypt:3  | Noticed an ancient lich
 87034 | Crypt:3  | Killed an ancient lich
 87251 | Crypt:3  | Found a staircase to the Tomb.
 87349 | Crypt:3  | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 87667 | Crypt:3  | Identified the ring of Sir Lol {rN+ Str+4 Slay+3} (You took it off a skeletal warrior on level 3 of the Crypt)
 87770 | Crypt:3  | Identified the ring of Jobap {+Fly rN+} (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)
 87777 | Crypt:3  | Got a glittering golden ring
 87779 | Crypt:3  | Identified the ring "Liucinabibe" {rN+ MR- Str+4 Int+3 Dex+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)
 87785 | Crypt:3  | Got a pitted plate armour
 87796 | Crypt:3  | Identified the +6 plate armour "Ywnegomu" {rElec rN+ Str+4 Int+2} (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)
 88746 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults
 88752 | Vaults:5 | Noticed Margery
 88755 | Vaults:5 | Found Wyiczaq's Distillery.
 88755 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 26. HP: 168/168 MP: 45/50
 88756 | Vaults:5 | Killed Margery
 88925 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 89425 | Vaults:5 | Noticed Sojobo
 89578 | Vaults:4 | Killed Sojobo
 89985 | Vaults:5 | Got a shimmering ivory ring
 90110 | Vaults:5 | Found Deluonan's Food Shop.
 90113 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of curing for 42 gold pieces
 90113 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of curing for 42 gold pieces
 90113 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of haste for 140 gold pieces
 90554 | Vaults:5 | Found Vuasa's Food Boutique.
 90558 | Vaults:5 | Found Laobrist's Food Shoppe.
 90578 | Vaults:5 | Got an ancient chain mail
 90764 | Vaults:5 | Found Nadyij's Antique Armour Shop.
 90765 | Vaults:5 | Found Mim Nott's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 90767 | Vaults:5 | Found Ceif Ett's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 90770 | Vaults:5 | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces
 90770 | Vaults:5 | Identified the ring "Onous" {+Fly rElec rPois Dex-2 SInv} (You took it off a tengu reaver on level 5 of the Vaults)
 90774 | Vaults:5 | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces
 90775 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +4 chain mail of Orudd {Str+4} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
 90790 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot
 90892 | Vaults:5 | Found Yrud's Gadget Shop.
 90960 | Vaults:5 | Found Vittin's Magic Scroll Emporium.
 90971 | Vaults:5 | Found Kelinu's Food Shop.
 90971 | Vaults:5 | Found Vezxaqug's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 90992 | Vaults:5 | Found Runlaidd's Food Boutique.
 91246 | Vaults:5 | Found Pomuloing's Assorted Antiques.
 91252 | Vaults:5 | Bought a pair of transparent gloves for 256 gold pieces
 91252 | Vaults:5 | Bought a scroll of identify for 54 gold pieces
 91252 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +0 pair of gloves of Lutaah {rC+ MR+} (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Vaults)
 91277 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 135 gold pieces
 91607 | Depths:1 | Got a fabulously ornate robe
 91623 | Depths:1 | Identified the +2 robe of Okawaru's Vengeance {Dex+3 Slay+3} (You took it off a yaktaur on level 1 of the Depths)
 92093 | Depths:1 | Reached XP level 27. HP: 180/180 MP: 19/50
 93193 | Depths:2 | Identified the +4 scale mail of Vacikhell {rElec rF+} (You found it on level 2 of the Depths)
 93360 | Depths:2 | Identified the +6 scale mail of the Circus Animal {Str+3} (You took it off a tengu warrior on level 2 of the Depths)
 94189 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 94225 | Depths:3 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
 94330 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
 96329 | Depths:4 | Noticed a juggernaut
 96332 | Depths:4 | Killed a juggernaut
 96332 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 96653 | Depths:4 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 97429 | Depths:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Depths
 97432 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 97825 | Depths:5 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot.
 98190 | Depths:5 | Found Pofreu's Book Shoppe.
 98193 | Depths:5 | Found Hiemuidi's Weapon Emporium.
 98194 | Depths:5 | Found Cerucvuz's Assorted Antiques.
 98198 | Depths:5 | Found Foemuer's Book Emporium.

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----
Earth Magic    |  4        5     6     8  9 11 12 13 14 15 16             18 19 20 21             | 21,5
Spellcasting   |           3  4        6  7  9 10 11 12 13    14 16 18 19 20       21 22 23       | 23,1
Maces & Flails |              1     2                                                  3  8 12 15 | 15,6
Dodging        |              2                    3     4                                     10 | 10,6
Shields        |                 2  3  4                       5  6                               |  6,5
Armour         |                 1     2  5  6  8     9 10    11 12    13 14       15             | 15,2
Conjurations   |                 1                 4  6  7 10 12          13 15 16    17          | 17,1
Stealth        |                       3              4                                           |  4,3
Transmutations |                          1  3  4                                                 |  4,0
Fighting       |                             1     2              5  6  8  9 10 11    12 18 20 22 | 22,8
Fire Magic     |                                3  5  7  9    10             11    12             | 12,6
Short Blades   |                                   1  2  3        4                               |  4,8
Air Magic      |                                            1                                2  6 |  6,6
Translocations |                                                                 2                |  2,6
Charms         |                                                                                  |  0,1

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Dagger            |     3 |       |       |       |       |   322 |   103 |    40 |       ||   468
       Whip              |       |     7 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     7
       Flail             |       |    35 |    15 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||    50
       Rapier            |       |       |       |    54 |   164 |    16 |       |       |       ||   234
       Eveningstar       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    18 |    15 ||    33
       Staff             |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     4 ||     6
 Cast: Sandblast         |    49 |    45 |   131 |   208 |    11 |    17 |    33 |    50 |     6 ||   550
       Stone Arrow       |       |     4 |     5 |   101 |   614 |   603 |    29 |    48 |     9 ||  1413
       Lee's Rapid Decon |       |       |     7 |    30 |    53 |    12 |    19 |    21 |       ||   142
       Petrify           |       |       |     5 |    16 |     8 |     4 |       |     2 |       ||    35
       Airstrike         |       |       |       |     9 |     4 |       |       |       |     3 ||    16
       Conjure Flame     |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Passwall          |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Bolt of Magma     |       |       |       |    16 |   149 |   131 |    44 |    41 |    15 ||   396
       Iskenderun's Batt |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Fireball          |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |    46 |       |     7 ||    56
       Iron Shot         |       |       |       |       |       |   295 |   488 |   363 |   165 ||  1311
       Lehudib's Crystal |       |       |       |       |       |       |    54 |   187 |   202 ||   443
       Ignition          |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |    16 ||    17
       Shatter           |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    87 ||    87
 Abil: Fly               |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       |       ||     2
       Stop Flying       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     1 |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |     5 |     7 |     9 |    14 |     9 |    18 |    13 |    25 |    10 ||   110
       Potion            |     1 |       |     1 |       |     1 |       |     1 |     2 |       ||     6
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |       |       |     3 |       |       |       |       |       ||     3
       Petrifying        |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     4 |    14 |    21 |    53 |    25 |    37 |    19 |    13 ||   189
       Fruit             |       |       |     9 |     8 |     6 |     1 |     3 |     1 |     6 ||    34
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |     9 |     3 |       |     3 |     3 ||    18
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |       |       |     6 |     2 |     7 |     3 ||    18
Armor: Robe              |     7 |     8 |    10 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||    25
       Leather armour    |       |    35 |    13 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||    48
       Ring mail         |       |       |     8 |   114 |    28 |       |       |       |       ||   150
       Scale mail        |       |       |       |       |   267 |    51 |       |       |       ||   318
       Ice dragon scales |       |       |       |       |       |   327 |   389 |       |    79 ||   795
       Chain mail        |       |       |       |       |       |       |    11 |    82 |       ||    93
       Plate armour      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    64 |       ||    64
       Quicksilver drago |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    48 |    74 ||   122
Dodge: Dodged            |    12 |    42 |    23 |    94 |   203 |   229 |   213 |   101 |    89 ||  1006
Block: Buckler           |       |     8 |    23 |   166 |   340 |   357 |   320 |   260 |   171 ||  1645
       Reflection        |       |       |     4 |    16 |    18 |    19 |    63 |    64 |    53 ||   237
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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 12:49

Re: Ignition vs Shatter

Shtopit wrote:Should I raise fire magic to learn fire storm? I also have an artifact ring with r. of fire on it.

You're close, so you might as well get FS now. The quickest way to get there is to balance the total XP in Fire and Conjurations. So turn on the cost display in the skill menu and train whichever is cheaper. (I suspect it is currently Fire. At some point it will become Conjurations becore Fire reaches the same skill level, because of the (slightly) different aptitude.)

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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 15:36

Re: Ignition vs Shatter

4Hooves2Appendages wrote:
Shtopit wrote:Should I raise fire magic to learn fire storm? I also have an artifact ring with r. of fire on it.

You're close, so you might as well get FS now. The quickest way to get there is to balance the total XP in Fire and Conjurations. So turn on the cost display in the skill menu and train whichever is cheaper. (I suspect it is currently Fire. At some point it will become Conjurations becore Fire reaches the same skill level, because of the (slightly) different aptitude.)
And Spellcasting too. Since this is a two-school spell, Spellcasting becomes more efficient at building spell power and success when it's cost is less than half the lowest of Fire/Conj. Of course Spc does other stuff, too.
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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 16:01

Re: Ignition vs Shatter

For new Tomb, read mapping on each level. On Tomb:1&2, since you got it, use Shatter (or LRD) to blast walls so you don't have to connect all the stairs on each floor, so you don't have to go 1->2->1->2->3. Don't take the usual stairs for the first 1->2. Take one of the ones in the inner loop: you'll have a 50% chance of landing in the 2->3 section, which only has a few Mummy Priests and no Greater Mummies. Mop them up (probably avoid Shatter in the fight so you don't break open the big room) then Shatter into the big room. If you end up in the 2 big room instead, read mapping and walk/blink to the upstairs: kill as many as you can, then go up, and down to the little 2 area.

You may want LRD to control where you put holes in the walls: you can make holes on outer corners to restrict LOS for mummies coming out from inside.

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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 16:59

Re: Ignition vs Shatter

MainiacJoe wrote:
4Hooves2Appendages wrote:
Shtopit wrote:Should I raise fire magic to learn fire storm? I also have an artifact ring with r. of fire on it.

You're close, so you might as well get FS now. The quickest way to get there is to balance the total XP in Fire and Conjurations. So turn on the cost display in the skill menu and train whichever is cheaper. (I suspect it is currently Fire. At some point it will become Conjurations becore Fire reaches the same skill level, because of the (slightly) different aptitude.)
And Spellcasting too. Since this is a two-school spell, Spellcasting becomes more efficient at building spell power and success when it's cost is less than half the lowest of Fire/Conj. Of course Spc does other stuff, too.

Spellcasting is this character's highest skill, in the dump at least, so no, not spellcasting.
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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 17:41

Re: Ignition vs Shatter

OK, the game is over! Thank you for your help. In the end, I did not get fire storm online because it would have required a lot of slots that I didn't have (I had learned OoD).

Shatter in Tomb really was a blast. I had some trouble in Tomb:1 because I pretty much called all of its denizens on me while blasting down walls to let them pour all over me :shock: I also had not thought that ancient mummies could be that hardy. There is some randomness involved, but they really needed a beating to go down! I read mapping on W:1, had my little adventure, then forgot to buy another scroll and went down in the larger room. I shattered all around, then I teleported into one of the smaller rooms to the side. Frederik also was there, he strikes me as the kind of unique who is too far into the advanced game to be really dangerous. I went to buy a new scroll, cleared what was left of W:2, and descended into W:3. There I blinked twice to the stairs while I cleared the place. I don't know if it was the death curses or lots of smiting, but my health went down very fast. The third time I cleared the place. So this time the gold rune was my fourth rune. ;)
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