What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?


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Slime Squisher

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 17:56

What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

I don't care about winning. I want to make a rad Dragonform character that pounces around and leaves it's enemies stunned and terrified!!

For species I figure it doesn't really matter, tho I'd love to get an Og up and running for the huge HP pool. But since the focus is on being a badass dragon, maybe Dr would be better for the unique breath abilities. Mf probably has the easiest time getting there.

I'd like to take the most inconsequential sacrifices, even if it means rejecting a few rounds. But I obviously have no idea what I'm doing since I initially thought sacrifices didn't affect forms. (Spider form with -3AC is hilarious, so is 'Blade Hand') Are there sacrifices that have no effect on forms? Obviously I can sac magic schools I don't plan on utilizing, and Armour, I guess. Can live without Artifice, and I thought I could do without Love, but S2S is so damn clutch.

Again, not worried about optimal play, just want to make a cool Dragon. Thanks!

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 18:30

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

You're making the question kind of ambiguous. -MR, -10% MP, slow healing, shoutitis, sac durability, and sac resistance basically don't weaken your character at all, but they're also worth very little piety except for sac resistance.
The best sacrifices are the ones that give the most piety, except for sac artifice and sac love, which are extremely bad since they shut off allies which are super OP (and sac artifice shuts off digging too).
The thing about taking the most inconsequential sacrifices is that not only are you sabotaging your early game, making 10 slightly damaging sacrifices may be just as bad as making 1 heavily damaging one that gives the same piety. And if you take the most inconsequential sacrifices for the entire game, you will probably win without Apocalypse unlocked.

So the only confident answer I can give to what I think the question is: you should sac resistance if you get it, because for some reason it's worth a ridiculous amount of piety despite being almost completely harmless.
Sac hand, sac experience, and sac skill are also worth disproportionately high amounts for how little they weaken your character, but they do noticeably weaken your character.

Sac arcana has some of the worst returns of any sacrifice; since it always picks one of tmut/necro/hexes it's guaranteed to catch at least one broken spell. I suppose if you aren't willing to use hexes or Conjure Flame anyway, and it happens to catch conj/hexes/fire, it could be worth it.

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 18:34

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

Worthless sacrifices are not a good way to play Ru. Try a different god if you don't want to sacrifice armour, restances, eye, etc.

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 18:45

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

I always sac allies because while they may be OP they are also really annoying and boring to use. I wish allies weren't forced on you so much, with most of the gods and evocables giving allies makes it near impossible to avoid using them.

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Post Sunday, 9th July 2017, 16:33

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

cerealjynx wrote:Again, not worried about optimal play, just want to make a cool Dragon. Thanks!


I see everyone ignored this part.

The "most inconsequential sacrifices" part is fairly straightforward. Just sac the stuff you aren't using anyway. As a troll, you have the advantage of being able to easily rip enemies apart even without god powers, so you can afford to slow down your Ru power gain while you pick through the "best" sacrifices.

I have to ask why Ru needs to be part of this at all. Consider BaTm of Oka or Mahk. You can still do the dragonform thing and the leaping, you won't have to sac anything, and you'll get a nice power boost from your god.

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Post Sunday, 9th July 2017, 16:49

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

I've had varying degrees of success with a few characters, usually taking one 'Incredible' sac and the rest smaller ones, not quite to where I want to be yet. It seems a lot of the troubles I was running into is typical transmuter tribulations, focusing on getting spells online early rather than offense/defense. The whole point of getting Ru is for the power leap (how else can you leap, Rast?), that's all I want. I did run a few ^Oka and ^Makh, but in all my games I have yet to find a book with Dragon Form, that's probably gonna be the trickiest part. It kinda makes me wanna start a different background if the book is gonna be such a jerk to obtain anyhow.

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Post Tuesday, 11th July 2017, 20:02

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

cerealjynx wrote:The whole point of getting Ru is for the power leap (how else can you leap, Rast?), that's all I want.

Barachians have a "Hop" species ability.
Won (52). Remaining (15): 5 species: Ba, Fe, Mu, Na, Op; 5 Backgrounds: AM, Wr, Su, AE, Ar; 5 gods: Jiyv, newNem, WJC, newSif, newFedh

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Post Wednesday, 12th July 2017, 04:20

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

With Tm^Ru, sacrificing hand gives a lot of piety and doesn't weaken the character much. The rest depends on taste. Don't be afraid to reject sacrifices if none are appealing to you: Ru offers plenty of sacrifices till you get to max piety. Making a big sacrifice early will give you a noticeable power boost.

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Post Wednesday, 12th July 2017, 14:08

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

Currently running a MfTM^Ru. 10 Runes in (5 in Pan left). My sacs: Love, Resistance, Essence (MR), Skill. Having full Ru piety early game was a big deal (Apocalypse saved the day a few times). Of all these, only Love is the one that I regret a bit, but I would definitely not call it terrible. You essentially just lose evokable summons (box of spiders, phantom mirror, etc.) which can be nice distractions if silenced, and things like Control Undead which are great for Hell and Tomb (as a Statue form Tm, I did not care for summons anyway - just need better ways of moving around and getting (AOE) damage out). The aptitude deduction from the Skill sacrifice is no real big deal for a Merfolk (great aptitudes overall) and by the time you hit extended, a -3 aptitude in something like Necromancy is a minor issue. Same with MR- / rF- / rC-. I did do the Love sacrifice somewhere deep in Lair though -- I was using Sticks to Snakes to clear out a lot of Lair (especially effective vs. Oklob plants and Statues).

Edit: 15 Rune run completed (escaped): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/gr ... 194058.txt

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Post Thursday, 13th July 2017, 19:48

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

I did it, I was a fearsome dragon.

Kinda on accident. This was a NaTm^Chei who found Dragon Form in Lair, and was casting it for branches. I had two wizardry rings so said seeya later Chei, I'mma make some sacs and get to pouncin'! Chei wrath wasn't too bad, especially since I was slow anyway, early Dragon Form absolutely rips through the Lair branches. I sacc'd big and got Power Leap, so I got to see the mighty destructive wrath of DragonPounce, and it was glorious.

Unfortunately, I ran into a recent nemesis of mine, Shock Snakes. These things are just too crazy, they killed a CeBe of mine who couldn't outrun the bastards! Of course, In this game I had 2 Resist Pots that I was way too overconfident to even consider using.
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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21-a0-113-g6841d05 (webtiles) character file.

212536 cerealjynx the Alchemist (level 18, -1/264 HPs)
             Began as a Naga Transmuter on July 12, 2017.
             Was a High Priest of Ru.
             Killed from afar by a shock serpent (15 damage)
             ... with an electric aura
             ... on level 4 of the Snake Pit.
             The game lasted 01:21:21 (32074 turns).

cerealjynx the Alchemist (Naga Transmuter)         Turns: 32074, Time: 01:21:22

Health: -1/264     AC: 16    Str: 28    XL:     18   Next: 92%
Magic:  21/28      EV: 10    Int: 16    God:    Ru [*****.]
Gold:   3555       SH:  5    Dex: 12    Spells: 8/31 levels left

rFire    + + .     SeeInvis +     - Unarmed
rCold    x . .     Gourm    .   (shield unavailable)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   (armour currently unavailable)
rPois    +         Spirit   .   (helmet currently unavailable)
rElec    .         Reflect  +   (cloak currently unavailable)
rCorr    .         Harm     .   (gloves currently unavailable)
MR       ++...     Rnd*Rage +   (no barding)
Stlth    ..........             u - +5 amulet of reflection
HPRegen  0.54/turn              (ring unavailable)
MPRegen  0.21/turn              i - ring of wizardry

@: lethally poisoned (-1 -> -1), exhausted, about to teleport, dragon-form,
flying
A: see invisible, berserk 1, deterioration 1, slow metabolism 1, spit poison 2,
missing a hand, no stealth, inability to use devices, AC +6
}: 1/15 runes: decaying
a: Breathe Poison Gas, End Transformation, Draw Out Power, Power Leap,
Apocalypse, Renounce Religion, Breathe Fire


You were on level 4 of the Snake Pit.
You worshipped Ru.
Ru was extremely pleased with you.
You were full.

You were a fearsome dragon!

You visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and saw 32 of its levels.
You also visited: Volcano.

You collected 3555 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 m - the +5 dagger of the Chain {protect, +Fly rElec MR+ Int-3, unknown}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Swamp)   
   
   It protects the one who uses it against injury (+AC on strike).
   
   It affects your intelligence (-3).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you fly.
Missiles
 j - 229 stones (quivered)
 n - 115 bolts
 q - 6 curare-tipped needles
 t - 30 sling bullets
Armour
 e - the +0 scale mail "Qabb" {rElec Str+3 Dex+4, unknown}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Swamp)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It insulates you from electricity.
 o - a +0 ring mail of magic resistance (melded)
   (You took it off Urug on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 s - a scarf of cloud immunity (melded)
   (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 P - a +2 pair of gloves (melded)
   (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 X - the +2 naga barding of the Suburbs (melded) {rC+}
   (You acquired it on level 12 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from cold.
Jewellery
 i - a ring of wizardry (right foreclaw)
   (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
 u - a +5 amulet of reflection (around neck)
   (You found it on level 2 of the Dungeon)
 B - the ring "Riwayxte" {*Drain rElec rF- SInv Stlth+, unknown}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Swamp)   
   
   [ring of stealth]
   
   It makes you vulnerable to fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It lets you see invisible.
   It causes draining when unequipped.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 H - an uncursed ring of fire
   (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
 W - an uncursed ring of wizardry
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
Scrolls
 a - 5 scrolls of fog
 c - a scroll of blinking
 f - 5 scrolls of recharging
 l - 12 scrolls of remove curse
 y - a scroll of teleportation
 C - 4 scrolls of fear
 E - a scroll of brand weapon {unknown}
 K - 10 scrolls of identify
 N - 6 scrolls of magic mapping
 Q - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon
 T - 4 scrolls of amnesia
Potions
 b - 2 potions of resistance
 h - 2 potions of haste
 k - 5 potions of lignification
 p - 4 potions of cancellation
 r - 5 potions of might
 w - 3 potions of flight
 x - 11 potions of curing
 A - 3 potions of brilliance
 Y - a potion of ambrosia
Books
 D - a book of Summonings
   (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
 F - a book of Burglary
   (You found it on level 3 of the Snake Pit)
Miscellaneous
 S - a box of beasts
 U - a fan of gales
   (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
Comestibles
 d - 12 bread rations
 g - 6 fruits
 v - 7 royal jellies
 z - 6 meat rations
 I - 4 chunks of flesh


   Skills:
 + Level 14.5 Fighting
 + Level 10.0 Dodging
 * Level 16.4 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 7.3 Spellcasting
 + Level 18.7 Transmutations
   Level 10.0 Invocations


You had 8 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Blade Hands           Tmut           ######....   1%          5    #####..
b - Sticks to Snakes      Tmut           ######..     0%          2    None
c - Dragon Form           Tmut           ######....   1%          7    #######
d - Dragon's Call         Summ           #.........   100%        9    #######


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (0/1) D:6            Lair (6/6) D:8
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:2        Snake (4/4) Lair:2        Slime (0/5) Lair:5
    Orc (2/2) D:12            Elf (1/3) Orc:2        Vaults (0/5) D:14
 Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Trog
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:7 ?   D:12 (   Orc:2 *(([*   Snake:1 (

Annotations:
D:11 4 runed doors
Lair:2 exclusion: oklob plant
Orc:2 exclusion: downstairs


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear boots.
((Your serpentine skin is tough. (AC +6)))
You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv)
((Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.))
((Your system is resistant to poisons. (rPois)))
((You cover ground very slowly.))
You have a slow metabolism.
You can exhale a cloud of poison.
You are missing a hand.
You cannot be stealthy.
You cannot study or use magical devices.
((You can use your snake-like lower body to constrict enemies.))
((You have a pair of antennae on your head.))
You tend to lose your temper in combat.
Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage.


Message History

The splash of poison hits you! You resist. The naga barely misses you.
You maul the naga ritualist!!!
You kill the naga ritualist!
You feel sick.
The black mamba bites you but does no damage.
The naga hits you with a hand axe.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You block the naga's attack.
You hit the naga.
The naga is lightly wounded.
You feel sick. The black mamba bites you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The naga hits you with a scimitar.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The black mamba is stunned by your will and fails to attack.
You maul the naga!!!!
You kill the naga!
The black mamba bites you but does no damage.
The naga barely misses you.
You maul the naga!!!
You kill the naga!
You feel sick. The black mamba bites you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You focus your will and slow the black mamba in retribution!
You claw the black mamba!
The black mamba is moderately wounded.
The black mamba bites you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The guardian serpent is stunned by your will and fails to attack.
The naga misses you.
You claw the black mamba! Your bite misses the black mamba.
The black mamba is heavily wounded.
You feel sick. The guardian serpent hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The black mamba bites you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You barely miss the guardian serpent.
Your tail-slap misses the guardian serpent.
The guardian serpent hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The naga begins to attack, but is stunned by your will!
The black mamba barely misses you.
You miss the black mamba.
The black mamba is heavily wounded.
You feel sick.
The guardian serpent closely misses you.
The naga misses you.
You barely miss the black mamba.
The black mamba is heavily wounded.
The black mamba bites you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The guardian serpent barely misses you.
Okay, then.
You're too exhausted to draw out your power.
You feel much better. You feel sick. The guardian serpent hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You block the black mamba's attack.
The naga spits poison at you.
The splash of poison misses you.
You closely miss the black mamba. You bite the black mamba!
The black mamba is severely wounded.
The guardian serpent closely misses you.
The black mamba barely misses you. The naga hits you but does no damage.
The guardian serpent begins to cast a spell, but is stunned by your will!
You maul the black mamba!!!!
You kill the black mamba!
You feel sick.
The guardian serpent is stunned by your will and fails to attack.
You closely miss the guardian serpent.
The guardian serpent begins to cast a spell, but is stunned by your will!
The naga hits you but does no damage.
You barely miss the guardian serpent.
Your tail-slap misses the guardian serpent.
You bite the guardian serpent!
The guardian serpent is lightly wounded.
You block the guardian serpent's attack.
You maul the guardian serpent!!!
You kill the guardian serpent!
You feel sick.
You hear an angry hiss.
The naga is stunned by your will and fails to attack.
A shock serpent comes into view.
The shock serpent hisses angrily.
You bite the naga!!
You kill the naga!
The shock serpent shoots out a bolt of lightning at you!
The bolt of electricity hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel sick.
Items here: % )) [
a hand axe; a glaive; a robe; 4 chunks of flesh
As you read the scroll of teleportation, it crumbles to dust.
You feel strangely unstable.
You start resting. You feel sick.
You closely miss the shock serpent.
The shock serpent bites you but does no damage.
You maul the shock serpent!!!!
You kill the shock serpent!
The air sparks with electricity, shocking you!
You die...

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There were no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Mara (Swamp:4)
  the Lernaean hydra (Swamp:4)
  Agnes (D:15)
  Kirke (Swamp:3)
  A thorn hunter (Swamp:1)
  4 nagarajas
  Aizul (Swamp:3)
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  A deep elf demonologist (Elf:1)
  Nessos (Lair:6)
  The ghost of davenfal the Warrior, a journeyman MiBe of Trog (Volcano)
  Snorg (Lair:6)
  3 fire dragons
  Harold (D:10)
  2 vault guards (D:14)
  9 naga warriors
  2 ghost crabs
  A catoblepas (D:15)
  3 centaur warriors
  13 anacondas
  17 hydras
  A death yak (Lair:4)
  3 dancing weapons
  Erica (D:8)
  A tengu warrior (D:15)
  5 two-headed ogres
  6 alligators
  The ghost of Caprice the Covert, a novice DsAs (Lair:1)
  3 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  Sonja (D:10)
  6 naga sharpshooters
  5 shock serpents
  4 deep elf knights (Elf:1)
  Urug (D:11)
  3 unseen horrors
  A spriggan druid (Swamp:3)
  6 wizards
  3 naga ritualists
  A deep elf archer (Elf:1)
  15 swamp dragons
  A shambling mangrove (Swamp:1)
  7 orc knights
  Pikel (D:6)
  2 necromancers (D:14)
  18 deep elf magi
  5 orc sorcerers
  6 mana vipers
  2 wolf spiders (Lair:6)
  A cyclops (D:12)
  4 manticores
  10 salamanders
  5 toenail golems (Volcano)
  16 ugly things
  3 centaur zombies
  Maurice (D:12)
  8 elephants
  15 naga magi
  6 guardian serpents
  27 black mambas
  3 centaur skeletons
  A torpor snail (Lair:4)
  2 gargoyles
  A redback zombie (D:15)
  19 spiny frogs
  6 kobold demonologists
  9 komodo dragons
  6 rime drakes
  A harpy zombie (D:15)
  A tengu conjurer (D:15)
  6 hornets
  A polar bear (Lair:4)
  10 trolls
  3 tyrant leeches
  10 bog bodies
  18 blink frogs
  13 hippogriffs
  7 slime creatures (Swamp:4)
  3 redbacks (Lair:6)
  2 spriggans
  4 shadows
  6 water elementals
  2 air elementals (Elf:1)
  A tarantella (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  16 wyverns
  Sigmund (D:5)
  A wraith (D:12)
  A hog (Swamp:3)
  28 yaks
  3 basilisks
  20 humans
  2 steam dragons
  5 hungry ghosts
  Menkaure (D:7)
  16 vampire mosquitoes
  16 insubstantial wisps
  3 wargs
  13 swamp worms
  47 nagas
  An acid dragon (Lair:6)
  A soldier ant (D:15)
  17 water moccasins
  7 porcupines
  2 hell hounds (Lair:3)
  Duvessa (D:7)
  3 black bears
  14 swamp drakes
  A hornet zombie (D:9)
  20 ice beasts
  4 phantoms
  7 sky beasts
  A slave (D:6)
  4 necrophages
  37 orc warriors
  9 wolves
  16 ogres
  20 centaurs
  21 crocodiles
  A big kobold (D:10)
  Blork the orc (D:5)
  17 bullfrogs
  A wyvern zombie (D:12)
  2 water moccasin zombies
  An earth elemental (Elf:1)
  6 scorpions
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:9)
  16 killer bees
  5 wights (D:8)
  5 howler monkeys
  8 electric eels
  6 crimson imps
  18 jellies
  2 quasits
  3 bullfrog zombies
  7 hounds
  38 orc wizards
  24 orc priests
  3 bullfrog skeletons
  4 iguanas
  13 worker ants
  A hound zombie (D:8)
  2 hound skeletons
  3 gnolls (D:7)
  2 worker ant zombies
  9 adders
  4 shadow imps
  3 oozes
  An adder zombie (D:5)
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  6 worms
  4 dart slugs
  3 leopard geckos
  127 orcs
  9 giant cockroaches
  14 goblins
  7 hobgoblins
  11 jackals
  11 quokkas
  3 bats (D:2)
  9 frilled lizards
  19 kobolds
  8 rats
1204 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A water moccasin (Lair:6)
  2 big kobolds
  Dowan (D:7)
  2 kobolds (D:7)
  A goblin (D:8)
7 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  The ghost of cerealjynx the Grappler, a journeyman TrMo of Makhleb (Volcano)
  A black mamba (Snake:1)
  A human (Swamp:3)
  2 vampire mosquitoes
  A naga (Snake:3)
  A centaur (D:12)
  A crimson imp (D:6)
  An adder (D:6)
  A ball lightning (Elf:1)
  30 fungi
  36 plants
76 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1287 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | cerealjynx the Naga Transmuter began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 3/3
   450 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/25 MP: 3/5
  1134 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 29/32 MP: 6/6
  1138 | D:2      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  1158 | D:2      | Reached skill level 2 in Fighting
  1177 | D:2      | Became a worshipper of Cheibriados the Contemplative
  1360 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
  1364 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Sticks to Snakes
  1562 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 37/40 MP: 5/7
  1812 | D:2      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  1825 | D:2      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  1830 | D:2      | Reached * piety under Cheibriados
  2125 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  2339 | D:3      | Reached ** piety under Cheibriados
  2339 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 48/48 MP: 8/8
  2346 | D:3      | Learned a level 5 spell: Blade Hands
  2455 | D:3      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  2633 | D:3      | Reached skill level 3 in Fighting
  2647 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2946 | D:4      | Noticed a necrophage
  2961 | D:4      | Killed a necrophage
  2961 | D:4      | Reached skill level 3 in Transmutations
  2961 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/53 MP: 3/9
  3022 | D:4      | HP: 12/53 [ogre/giant spiked club (15)]
  3030 | D:4      | HP: 11/54 [worker ant (4)]
  3041 | D:4      | HP: 13/57 [worker ant (4)]
  3057 | D:4      | Reached skill level 4 in Transmutations
  3392 | D:4      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
  3440 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 40/64 MP: 8/10
  3610 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations
  3726 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Transmutations
  4396 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4553 | D:5      | Noticed Blork the orc
  4567 | D:5      | Killed Blork the orc
  4567 | D:5      | Reached *** piety under Cheibriados
  4567 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Transmutations
  4567 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 32/72 MP: 7/11
  4635 | D:5      | Noticed Sigmund
  4646 | D:5      | Killed Sigmund
  4931 | D:5      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  4939 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Transmutations
  5033 | D:5      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  5039 | D:5      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  5141 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  5255 | D:5      | Reached **** piety under Cheibriados
  5255 | D:5      | Reached skill level 2 in Invocations
  5341 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  5384 | D:6      | Reached skill level 3 in Invocations
  5387 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
  5387 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 73/81 MP: 5/12
  5446 | D:6      | Noticed Pikel
  5451 | D:6      | Killed Pikel
  5451 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
  5451 | D:6      | Reached skill level 4 in Invocations
  5537 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5595 | D:6      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  5713 | D:6      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  5863 | D:6      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6147 | D:7      | Noticed Dowan
  6149 | D:7      | Noticed Duvessa
  6156 | D:7      | Killed Dowan
  6160 | D:7      | Killed Duvessa
  6160 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat
  6160 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
  6171 | D:7      | Found Cobb's Magic Scroll Shop.
  6670 | D:7      | Noticed Menkaure
  6681 | D:7      | Killed Menkaure
  6687 | D:7      | Reached ***** piety under Cheibriados
  6995 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting
  7003 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 45/94 MP: 4/14
  7004 | D:8      | HP: 23/94 [porcupine (12)]
  7006 | D:8      | HP: 8/94 [wolf (6)]
  7007 | D:8      | HP: 3/94 [wolf (5)]
  7010 | D:8      | Reached skill level 6 in Invocations
  7017 | D:8      | HP: 20/94 [porcupine's spines (4)]
  7129 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
  7406 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7420 | D:8      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  7586 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Invocations
  7587 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Fighting
  7671 | D:8      | Gained mutation: Your tail ends in a poisonous barb. [mutagenic meat]
  7672 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small antennae on your head. [mutagenic meat]
  7673 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You can exhale a cloud of poison. [mutagenic meat]
  7674 | D:8      | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [mutagenic meat]
  7687 | D:8      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  7762 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
  7767 | D:8      | Killed Erica
  7984 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat
  8060 | D:8      | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
  8162 | D:9      | Reached skill level 8 in Invocations
  8204 | D:9      | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [mutagenic meat]
  8205 | D:9      | Lost mutation: Your tail ends in a poisonous barb. [mutagenic meat]
  8206 | D:9      | Gained mutation: You have a pair of antennae on your head. [mutagenic meat]
  8253 | D:9      | Found an ornate altar of the Wu Jian Council.
  8266 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 98/104 MP: 12/17
  8277 | D:9      | Reached ****** piety under Cheibriados
  8351 | D:9      | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting
  9069 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  9163 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 9 in Invocations
  9173 | Lair:1   | Noticed Caprice's ghost (novice DsAs)
  9188 | Lair:1   | Killed Caprice's ghost
  9188 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
  9372 | Lair:1   | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  9701 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
  9726 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
  9735 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  9810 | Lair:2   | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  9898 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
  9964 | Lair:2   | Got a faintly glowing hand axe
 10031 | Lair:2   | Noticed an oklob plant
 10061 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 2 in Dodging
 10144 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 105/117 MP: 14/19
 10202 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 3 in Dodging
 10492 | Lair:2   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 10782 | Lair:3   | Found a dark tunnel.
 10793 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 10799 | Volcano  | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting
 10799 | Volcano  | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat
 10803 | Volcano  | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging
 10809 | Volcano  | Noticed cerealjynx's ghost (journeyman TrMo)
 10826 | Volcano  | Noticed davenfal's ghost (journeyman MiBe)
 10830 | Volcano  | Killed davenfal's ghost
 11096 | Volcano  | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 11116 | Volcano  | Killed cerealjynx's ghost
 12180 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 3 in Spellcasting
 12184 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 9 in Transmutations
 12184 | Lair:4   | Gained mutation: You can use your snake-like lower body to constrict enemies. [Naga growth]
 12184 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 128/128 MP: 16/20
 12286 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 4 in Spellcasting
 12339 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Transmutations
 12707 | Lair:5   | Got an ominously black robe
 12806 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 13046 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 13172 | Lair:5   | Identified the cursed +0 robe of Starshine {rPois Int-2 Dex+2} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 13468 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 11 in Transmutations
 13531 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 13598 | Lair:6   | Noticed Snorg
 13605 | Lair:6   | Killed Snorg
 13623 | Lair:6   | HP: 32/128 [blink frog (13)]
 13629 | Lair:6   | HP: 20/128 [wyvern (6)]
 13634 | Lair:6   | HP: 10/128 [spiny frog (4)]
 13644 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting
 13654 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 12 in Transmutations
 13850 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 58/136 MP: 18/23
 14100 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging
 14151 | Lair:6   | HP: 34/136 [ten-headed hydra (8)]
 14152 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 12 in Fighting
 14562 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 7 spell: Dragon Form
 14579 | Lair:6   | Noticed Nessos
 14586 | Lair:6   | Killed Nessos
 15437 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 13 in Transmutations
 15772 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 15779 | D:10     | Noticed Harold
 15786 | D:10     | Killed Harold
 16034 | D:10     | Noticed Sonja
 16039 | D:10     | Killed Sonja
 17247 | D:11     | Noticed Urug
 17256 | D:11     | Killed Urug
 17256 | D:11     | Reached skill level 14 in Transmutations
 17292 | D:11     | Found a runed door.
 17302 | D:11     | Found a runed door.
 17313 | D:11     | Found a runed door.
 17342 | D:11     | Found a runed door.
 17611 | D:11     | Learned a level 9 spell: Dragon's Call
 17723 | D:12     | Got a bloodstained naga barding
 17734 | D:12     | Identified the +2 naga barding of the Suburbs {rC+} (You acquired it on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 17806 | D:12     | Noticed Maurice
 17827 | D:12     | Killed Maurice
 17950 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 17996 | D:12     | Found Ehutil's Weapon Shop.
 18215 | D:12     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 79/144 MP: 24/24
 18348 | D:12     | Reached skill level 15 in Transmutations
 19734 | D:14     | Reached skill level 16 in Transmutations
 20136 | D:14     | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 20210 | D:14     | HP: 35/144 [drowned by a water elemental (8)]
 20326 | D:14     | HP: 34/144 [seven-headed hydra (4)]
 20509 | D:14     | HP: 49/216 [human simulacrum (16)]
 20513 | D:14     | HP: 24/216 [human simulacrum (3)]
 20513 | D:14     | HP: 8/216 [human simulacrum (16)]
 20769 | D:14     | Reached skill level 17 in Transmutations
 20781 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 20903 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 21183 | D:15     | HP: 53/216 [orc priest/divine providence[an orc knight] (10)]
 21206 | D:15     | HP: 27/144 [manticore (2)]
 21623 | D:15     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 145/152 MP: 19/25
 21680 | D:15     | Noticed Agnes
 21685 | D:15     | Killed Agnes
 21729 | D:15     | Reached skill level 18 in Transmutations
 21843 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 22080 | D:14     | Fell from the grace of Cheibriados
 22080 | D:14     | Became a worshipper of Ru the Awakened
 22160 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 22871 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 22908 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 12 in Unarmed Combat
 23222 | Orc:2    | Found Esyxyi's General Store.
 23229 | Orc:2    | Gained mutation: You are missing a hand. [Ru sacrifice]
 23229 | Orc:2    | Reached * piety under Ru
 23229 | Orc:2    | Reached ** piety under Ru
 23229 | Orc:2    | Reached *** piety under Ru
 23363 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 23390 | Orc:2    | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 23534 | Orc:2    | HP: 48/228 [orc knight/great sword (23)]
 23539 | Orc:2    | HP: 40/228 [orc priest/divine providence (10)]
 23911 | Orc:2    | Found Soluh's Weapon Emporium.
 23911 | Orc:2    | Found Rateumiq's Antique Armour Shop.
 23915 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
 23948 | Orc:2    | Found Oquoj's Assorted Antiques.
 23948 | Orc:2    | Found Seh Vito's Weapon Shop.
 24085 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 24499 | Elf:1    | HP: 56/231 [deep elf archer/arrow (8)]
 24502 | Elf:1    | HP: 9/231 [deep elf mage/bolt of lightning (33)]
 24502 | Elf:1    | HP: 1/231 [deep elf archer/arrow (8)]
 24660 | Elf:1    | Noticed a Tzitzimitl
 24687 | Elf:1    | Reached skill level 13 in Unarmed Combat
 24714 | Elf:1    | HP: 47/231 [glaive of protection (18)]
 24719 | Elf:1    | HP: 37/231 [glaive of protection (12)]
 25148 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 25163 | Swamp:1  | Gained mutation: You cannot study or use magical devices. [Ru sacrifice]
 25163 | Swamp:1  | Reached **** piety under Ru
 25163 | Swamp:1  | Reached ***** piety under Ru
 25230 | Swamp:1  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 25244 | Swamp:1  | Killed a thorn hunter
 25289 | Swamp:1  | Got a distressingly furry scale mail
 25724 | Swamp:1  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 162/162 MP: 18/26
 25744 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting
 26065 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging
 26550 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 14 in Unarmed Combat
 26702 | Swamp:3  | Was forgiven by Cheibriados
 26723 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Aizul
 26733 | Swamp:3  | Killed Aizul
 27057 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Kirke
 27062 | Swamp:3  | Killed Kirke
 27704 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 27791 | Swamp:4  | Got a steaming bronze ring
 27883 | Swamp:4  | Noticed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra
 27888 | Swamp:4  | HP: 61/246 [swamp drake (7)]
 28034 | Swamp:4  | Got a shimmering dagger
 28118 | Swamp:4  | Noticed Mara
 28121 | Swamp:4  | Noticed cerealjynx's illusion
 28125 | Swamp:4  | Killed Mara
 28453 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging
 28782 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 15 in Unarmed Combat
 28784 | Swamp:4  | Killed the 26-headed Lernaean hydra
 28859 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 29031 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 29044 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting
 29082 | Snake:1  | Found Xiweeqin's Weapon Emporium.
 29107 | Snake:1  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 106/175 MP: 18/27
 30753 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 16 in Unarmed Combat
 30764 | Snake:3  | Gained mutation: You cannot be stealthy. [Ru sacrifice]
 31625 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting
 31737 | Snake:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit
 32048 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 32053 | Snake:4  | HP: 64/264 [black mamba (6)]
 32058 | Snake:4  | HP: 30/264 [guardian serpent (14)]
 32063 | Snake:4  | HP: 31/264 [poisoned by a naga (splash of poison)]
 32067 | Snake:4  | HP: 13/264 [shock serpent/bolt of electricity (18)]
 32074 | Snake:4  | Killed from afar by a shock serpent

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 |
---------------+-------------------------------------------------------+-----
Fighting       |        2     3  4     5  7  8 10 11    12       14    | 14.5
Unarmed Combat |        4     5        6  7  9 10 11          13 15 16 | 16.4
Transmutations |              3  4  7  8           9 12 14 17 18       | 18.7
Invocations    |                       3  5  8 10                      | 10.0
Dodging        |                                2  5     6     7  9 10 | 10.0
Spellcasting   |                                   3  6              7 |  7.3

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |   100 |   127 |   227 |   421 |   929 |  1074 ||  2878
       Headbutt          |    10 |    12 |    16 |       |       |       ||    38
       Punch             |       |     2 |     4 |    31 |    72 |    13 ||   122
       Tailslap          |       |       |       |     5 |    12 |    65 ||    82
       Constrict         |       |       |       |       |   194 |    65 ||   259
       Bite              |       |       |       |       |    11 |    64 ||    75
 Fire: Hunting sling     |       |    98 |    50 |       |       |       ||   148
Throw: Stone             |    44 |    17 |    63 |   135 |   381 |    99 ||   739
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |       |       |    48 ||    48
 Cast: Beastly Appendage |     8 |    15 |    15 |       |       |       ||    38
       Sticks to Snakes  |       |     4 |     6 |     7 |     4 |       ||    21
       Blade Hands       |       |       |    15 |    41 |    48 |    11 ||   115
       Dragon Form       |       |       |       |       |     7 |    54 ||    61
Invok: Temporal Distorti |       |       |       |     1 |     7 |       ||     8
       Bend Time         |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Slouch            |       |       |       |       |     4 |     1 ||     5
       Sacrifice Artific |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Sacrifice a Hand  |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Power Leap        |       |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
       Apocalypse        |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Reject Sacrifices |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Sacrifice Stealth |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
 Abil: Spit Poison       |     5 |     7 |     8 |     1 |       |       ||    21
       End Transformatio |       |       |     1 |       |     2 |       ||     3
       Breathe Poison Ga |       |       |       |    11 |     9 |    15 ||    35
       Breathe Fire      |       |       |       |       |     1 |     9 ||    10
Evoke: Box of beasts     |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Wand              |       |       |       |       |    16 |     2 ||    18
  Use: Potion            |       |     2 |       |     1 |     2 |     9 ||    14
       Scroll            |       |       |     8 |    18 |    15 |     7 ||    48
 Stab: Distracted        |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |     2 ||     4
       Sleeping          |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Invisible         |       |       |       |       |       |    14 ||    14
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |       |       |     4 ||     4
  Eat: Chunk             |     2 |     4 |    12 |    37 |    28 |    21 ||   104
       Fruit             |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |    17 ||    19
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |     1 |     3 |     2 ||     6
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |       |     5 ||     5
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |       |       |     6 ||     6
Armor: Ring mail         |    30 |    54 |    59 |   180 |       |   114 ||   437
       Plate armour      |       |       |       |    27 |   568 |    23 ||   618
       Skin              |       |       |       |       |    41 |   293 ||   334
       Robe              |       |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
Dodge: Dodged            |    47 |    87 |    80 |   176 |   341 |   357 ||  1088
Block: Other             |       |       |    28 |   106 |   218 |   185 ||   537
       Reflection        |       |       |       |     1 |    23 |    17 ||    41


Lair Larrikin

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Joined: Wednesday, 12th July 2017, 13:59

Post Thursday, 13th July 2017, 23:18

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

Haha, took some balls to give the finger to Chei.
Shock snakes are terrible! I was talking about that today as a matter of fact.
Ru's Apocalypse ability is insanely great btw. It's the ultimate monster closet cleaner!
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Pandemonium Purger

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Joined: Sunday, 5th April 2015, 22:37

Post Sunday, 30th July 2017, 06:25

Re: What sacrifices are best for a Tm^Ru?

sacing durablility for a dragon form character is literaly free piety, but you can't do it with DR.
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/playe ... speon.html. I started playing in 0.16.1
I achieved greatplayer in less than a year.
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