Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage


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Post Friday, 7th July 2017, 20:09

Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

Ok, how dangerous is this ghost, really? It has 6 plusses of EV, but can only hit for "up to 1 damage". If it had spells I would see them, right?

AlphaOmegaStrife's ghost.
The apparition of AlphaOmegaStrife the Covert, a novice Spriggan Assassin of
Nemelex Xobeh.

Max HP: 44
AC +
EV +++++ +
MR ++

It looks extremely dangerous.
It is immune to poison and negative energy.
It can see invisible.
It is intelligent.
It covers ground extremely quickly.
It can fly.
It can hit for up to 1 damage.
It is incapable of using stairs.
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Post Friday, 7th July 2017, 20:23

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

Maybe it died with a -3 sling equipped? Or Bread?

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Post Friday, 7th July 2017, 20:24

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

I suspect the description came about because of the ghost, compared to yours, and its speed.

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Post Friday, 7th July 2017, 21:10

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

edgefigaro wrote:Maybe it died with a -3 sling equipped? Or Bread?

A blowgun rather. It's an assassin.

An yes:
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Alpha ... 195633.txt

Player ghosts are such a well designed feature, truly amazing.

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Post Friday, 7th July 2017, 21:11

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

This looks like the right morgue. The ghost is wielding a blowgun and can fire poison? maybe curare? maybe switch to the +5 elec dagger? I have no idea how ghosts work but i'm sure difficulty rating is based on HD/XL otherwise every speed 10 melee monster would be trivial and this guy wouldn't have tried to engage an orc priest with his 44 hp spriggan firing poison needles.

  Code:
AlphaOmegaStrife the Covert (Spriggan Assassin)     Turns: 9481, Time: 00:19:00

Health: -1/44      AC:  4    Str:  7    XL:     9   Next: 71%
Magic:  13/13      EV: 27    Int: 13    God:    Nemelex Xobeh [......]
Gold:   417        SH:  0    Dex: 20    Spells: 8/8 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis +   b - +0 blowgun
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (shield restricted)
rNeg     + . .     Faith    .   c - +0 robe
rPois    .         Spirit   .   (helmet restricted)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   d - +1 cloak
rCorr    .         Harm     .   (gloves unavailable)
MR       ++...                  (boots unavailable)
Stlth    +++++.....             v - amulet of magic regeneration
Regen    0.2/turn               N - ring of protection from magic
MPRegen  0.2/turn               M - ring of positive energy

@: very quick
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2
a: Renounce Religion


You were on level 7 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Nemelex Xobeh.
Nemelex Xobeh was noncommittal.
You were not hungry.

You visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and saw 9 of its levels.
You also visited: Ossuary.

You collected 417 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +5 dagger of electrocution
 b - a +0 blowgun (weapon)
Missiles
 f - 12 poisoned needles (quivered)
 l - 6 curare-tipped needles

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Post Friday, 7th July 2017, 21:15

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

Splatt wrote:This looks like the right morgue. The ghost is wielding a blowgun and can fire poison? maybe curare? maybe switch to the +5 elec dagger? I have no idea how ghosts work but i'm sure difficulty rating is based on HD/XL otherwise every speed 10 melee monster would be trivial and this guy wouldn't have tried to engage an orc priest with his 44 hp spriggan firing poison needles.

  Code:
AlphaOmegaStrife the Covert (Spriggan Assassin)     Turns: 9481, Time: 00:19:00

Health: -1/44      AC:  4    Str:  7    XL:     9   Next: 71%
Magic:  13/13      EV: 27    Int: 13    God:    Nemelex Xobeh [......]
Gold:   417        SH:  0    Dex: 20    Spells: 8/8 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis +   b - +0 blowgun
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (shield restricted)
rNeg     + . .     Faith    .   c - +0 robe
rPois    .         Spirit   .   (helmet restricted)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   d - +1 cloak
rCorr    .         Harm     .   (gloves unavailable)
MR       ++...                  (boots unavailable)
Stlth    +++++.....             v - amulet of magic regeneration
Regen    0.2/turn               N - ring of protection from magic
MPRegen  0.2/turn               M - ring of positive energy

@: very quick
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2
a: Renounce Religion


You were on level 7 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Nemelex Xobeh.
Nemelex Xobeh was noncommittal.
You were not hungry.

You visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and saw 9 of its levels.
You also visited: Ossuary.

You collected 417 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +5 dagger of electrocution
 b - a +0 blowgun (weapon)
Missiles
 f - 12 poisoned needles (quivered)
 l - 6 curare-tipped needles

Yes difficulty rating is related to xl, ghosts can't shoot, or switch weapons (indeed they don't have a slot for a theoretical back up weapon)

I would think, at a minimum, ghosts should be generated with the nastiest melee weapon the player died with in hand, regardless of what they actually had equipped.
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Post Friday, 7th July 2017, 21:28

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

Siegurt wrote:Yes difficulty rating is related to xl, ghosts can't shoot, or switch weapons (indeed they don't have a slot for a theoretical back up weapon)

there goes my dream of hardcore pvp ghost invades. what's even the point of ghosts if i can't get my Fe one shot by a CeHu ghost walking around a corner.

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Post Friday, 7th July 2017, 21:32

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

And I thought the way to make dangerous ghosts is to teach them fun spells...

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 00:41

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

you can always oneshot people with CeFe ghosts; monster fireball does 3d13 damage at HD 5

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 01:22

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

duvessa wrote:you can always oneshot people with CeFe ghosts; monster fireball does 3d13 damage at HD 5


It doesn't matter how much int or spell skills or enhancers the ghost had? Just HD and that fail rate was under 50%?

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 01:40

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

yes

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 01:46

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

Ghosts: a quality gameplay mechanic. If you really want to ruin someone's day (and probably get server banned for griefing) you can set up a CeCK bot that doesn't switch away from the starting spear of chaos. You could modify it further to maximize the number of ghosts left on early dungeon floors by intentionally suiciding if another ghost is found or if the bot reaches some cutoff floor without dying.This setup can quickly ruin whatever server it's playing on by leaving a high number of fast, durable, and extremely lethal earlygame ghosts. Automatically restarting the bot allows this method to minimize hands-on time so that you can get back to your busy life of shitposting in cyc and eating Whataburger patty melts.

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 01:48

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

did you know can order like 100 lbs of pretzels online and have it delivered to your house with free shipping

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 02:04

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

I am sure the CeCK approach of hellmonk is effective, but for the caveman griefer with no access to crawl playing robots, a TrWz with a spell list consisting of slow and mephitic cloud dropped in the first available timed portal is quick and effective for manual ghost trolling. This small-batch, artisanal approach is guaranteed to produce amusing TermTVs.
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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 02:11

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

another good way to troll someone is to get a water bottle and put a penny under it and tell them to look into the water bottle and then while their head is over the water bottle, you shoot them in the face with your gun

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Post Saturday, 8th July 2017, 02:23

Re: Extremely dangerous ghost can hit for up to 1 damage

To be clear, I can't recommend shooting people looking into a water bottle in the face. Making TrWz ghosts in sewers on the other hand...
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