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Halls Hopper

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Post Sunday, 18th June 2017, 20:13

MeTm, and transmuting 101 questions.

I'm currently running a metm and got really basic? questions. First can I get a r/Eli5 how does spell power, unarmed combat, stats, factor into actual damage output. I was looking at, viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23153&p=308246&hilit=transmuter#p308246 but I don't understand it. From what I could glean from duvessa's post on spells (which is awesome) spell power seems to only effect the duration of the transformation? I'm I correct in that? I'm less concerned with the math and more interested in what I should be skilling/ putting stat points in.

Here is my dump, have any advice? I have the haunting suspicion that I've skilled completely wrong and Fedhas has just picked up my char and carried him. I've invested very heavily in dodging which is weird. Also everyone just worships statue form but I haven't found it, like anywhere. Also iceform seems much weaker than spider or blade hands up to this point, when do you use it?

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.0-15-g7f486f2 (webtiles) character file.

1158511 the Acrobat (Merfolk Transmuter)           Turns: 42463, Time: 03:56:45

Health: 170/170    AC: 21    Str: 11    XL:     20   Next: 92%
Magic:  30/30      EV: 29    Int: 21    God:    Fedhas [******]
Gold:   2494       SH:  0    Dex: 18    Spells: 10/33 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis .     - Unarmed
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (no shield)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   W - +5 leather armour "Yfucin Mohycs" {rElec Int+4}
rPois    .         Spirit   .   u - +2 helmet
rElec    +         Reflect  .   Y - +2 cloak
rCorr    .         Harm     .   v - +2 pair of gloves
MR       ++...                  I - +2 pair of boots
Stlth    ++++......             g - amulet of regeneration
Regen    0.8/turn               X - ring of stealth
MPRegen  0.3/turn               O - ring of protection from magic

@: no status effects
A: change form in water, swift swim, stealthy swim
}: 1/15 runes: barnacled
a: Fungal Bloom, Evolution, Sunlight, Growth, Reproduction, Rain, Renounce
Religion


You are on level 4 of the Vaults.
You worship Fedhas.
Fedhas is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 32 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.

You have collected 2841 gold pieces.
You have spent 347 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Missiles
 a - 968 arrows
Armour
 u - a +2 helmet (worn)
 v - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 I - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
 J - the +2 robe "Rilitis" {rN+ Int+3}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
 W - the +5 leather armour "Yfucin Mohycs" (worn) {rElec Int+4}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Abyss)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It insulates you from electricity.
 Y - a +2 cloak (worn)
Jewellery
 g - an amulet of regeneration (around neck)
 l - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 F - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 O - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
 X - a ring of stealth (left hand)
 Z - the amulet "Goqeisu" {Spirit rPois rF+ MR- Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [amulet of guardian spirit]
   
   It causes incoming damage to be split between your health and magic.
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Wands
 y - a wand of clouds (7/9)
 z - a wand of iceblast (10/15)
 A - a wand of iceblast (10/15)
 C - a wand of iceblast (9/15)
 G - a wand of disintegration (8/24)
 P - a wand of digging (?/24)
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of holy word
 c - 3 scrolls of silence
 q - 6 scrolls of enchant weapon
 r - 5 scrolls of magic mapping
 w - 2 scrolls of amnesia
 x - 12 scrolls of remove curse
 B - a scroll of blinking
 K - 2 scrolls of recharging
 N - a scroll of identify
 R - 4 scrolls of enchant armour
 S - 5 scrolls of teleportation
Potions
 f - 4 potions of brilliance
 i - 5 potions of magic
 m - 3 potions of heal wounds
 n - 11 potions of curing
 p - a potion of haste
 s - 5 potions of berserk rage
 t - a potion of invisibility
 D - 3 potions of agility
 H - 4 potions of flight
 L - 9 potions of might
 Q - 2 potions of ambrosia
 T - 4 potions of mutation
Books
 h - a book of Beasts   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Summon Butterflies           Summoning                     1
    b - Call Canine Familiar         Summoning                     3
    c - Summon Ice Beast             Ice/Summoning                 4
    d - Summon Mana Viper            Hexes/Summoning               5
    e - Summon Hydra                 Summoning                     7
 M - a book of Battle   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Infusion                     Charms                        1
    b - Shroud of Golubria           Charms/Translocation          2
    c - Song of Slaying              Charms                        2
    d - Spectral Weapon              Hexes/Charms                  3
    e - Regeneration                 Charms/Necromancy             3
 U - the Grimoire of Talismans and Calling
   (You found it on level 4 of the Shoals)   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Ozocubu's Armour             Charms/Ice                    3
    b - Summon Guardian Golem        Hexes/Summoning               3
    c - Aura of Abjuration           Summoning                     5
Miscellaneous
 e - a lightning rod (inert)
 E - a phial of floods
 V - a lamp of fire (inert)
Comestibles
 d - 12 bread rations
 j - 12 meat rations
 k - 24 fruits


   Skills:
 - Level 17.7 Fighting
 - Level 4.0 Armour
 - Level 21.5 Dodging
 + Level 6.1 Stealth
 - Level 19.2 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 7.1 Spellcasting
 - Level 7.9 Charms
 - Level 17.9 Transmutations
 + Level 3.7 Ice Magic
 + Level 8.5 Invocations
 + Level 5.5 Evocations


You have 10 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Beastly Appendage     Tmut           ######       0%          1    None
b - Sticks to Snakes      Tmut           ######..     0%          2    None
c - Spider Form           Tmut/Pois      #####.....   1%          3    None
d - Blade Hands           Tmut           ######....   1%          5    #####..
e - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       ####....     3%          3    None
f - Summon Butterflies    Summ           #.......     11%         1    None
g - Shroud of Golubria    Chrm/Tloc      ###.......   3%          2    None
h - Ice Form              Ice/Tmut       ######..     1%          4    ###....
i - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ###.....     3%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (6/6) D:9
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:4       Spider (0/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:9             Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (4/5) D:14
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3     Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Nemelex Xobeh
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Xom
Yredelemnul
Beogh

Shops:
Orc:2 *[(!   Shoals:3 :   Vaults:1 %

Annotations:
Lair:2 Gastronok

Message History

All of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted away.
Done exploring.
Done exploring.
You swap places.
Items here: ))) [
a morningstar; a ring mail; a giant club x2
Things that are here:
a whip; a robe
There is an open door, spattered with blood here.
Things that are here:
an uncursed arbalest; 23 bolts
Things that are here:
a giant spiked club x2
Unknown command.

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You can see 2 friendly wandering mushrooms.

Vanquished Creatures
  3 tentacled starspawn (Abyss:2)
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:4)
  13 vault wardens
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  Aizul (Vaults:1)
  Louise (D:14)
  12 ironheart preservers
  2 entropy weavers
  5 stone giants
  A deep elf annihilator (Vaults:2)
  A crystal guardian (Vaults:4)
  10 merfolk javelineers
  Snorg (Lair:6)
  11 yaktaur captains
  A fire dragon (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  A merfolk impaler (Shoals:4)
  An ettin (Vaults:1)
  2 fire dragons
  The ghost of OffsetSiren the Destroyer, a journeyman DsFE of Cheibriados (D:11)
  4 rakshasas
  8 vault guards
  2 ice dragons
  2 great orbs of eyes
  10 centaur warriors
  Erica (D:8)
  An alligator snapping turtle (Shoals:3)
  A merfolk avatar (Shoals:2)
  5 hydras
  A catoblepas (Lair:6)
  4 merfolk aquamancers
  15 ogre magi
  4 death yaks
  A deep troll shaman (Vaults:1)
  A death knight (Vaults:2)
  3 satyrs (Shoals:4)
  4 deep troll earth magi
  A tengu warrior (D:13)
  44 two-headed ogres
  3 thrashing horrors (Abyss:2)
  6 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  Urug (Lair:5)
  4 deep elf knights
  Nergalle (D:11)
  A fire crab (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  The ghost of Dethers the Spear-Bearer, a novice HOAK of Lugonu (D:6)
  2 soul eaters (Vaults:1)
  10 skeletal warriors
  3 shadow wraiths
  A titan skeleton (Vaults:4)
  4 wretched stars (Abyss:2)
  5 flayed ghosts
  13 deep trolls
  4 unseen horrors
  5 sea snakes
  A deep troll (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  A lindwurm (Lair:6)
  5 wizards
  2 glowing orange brains
  12 ironbrand convokers
  8 necromancers
  2 deep elf archers
  22 harpies
  An orb spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  4 wolf spiders
  4 human zombies
  8 orc knights
  12 manticores
  7 deep elf magi
  2 shining eyes (shapeshifter)
  7 orc sorcerers
  37 ugly things
  12 fauns
  A worldbinder (Abyss:2)
  An elephant (Lair:5)
  3 stone giant skeletons
  12 merfolk sirens
  4 water nymphs
  8 cyclopes
  2 naga magi (D:15)
  4 human skeletons
  2 black mambas (Lair:6)
  An orange demon (Abyss:2)
  8 spiny frogs
  A torpor snail (Lair:6)
  Psyche (D:7)
  16 vault sentinels
  3 yaktaur zombies
  3 rime drakes
  4 large abominations (Abyss:2)
  23 yaktaurs
  A kobold demonologist (D:14)
  5 freezing wraiths
  2 ancient zymes
  2 yaktaurs (shapeshifter)
  A merfolk (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  7 polar bears (Lair:6)
  9 trolls
  37 merfolk
  A yaktaur skeleton (Vaults:4)
  4 hornets
  A tyrant leech (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  3 meliai (D:13)
  A hornet (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  9 blink frogs
  16 hippogriffs
  29 slime creatures
  3 snapping turtles
  3 dream sheep
  2 ettin skeletons
  6 human simulacra
  4 wraiths
  A tarantella (D:14)
  A ynoxinul (Abyss:2)
  4 water elementals
  3 shadows
  21 yaks
  5 wyverns
  19 humans (D:14)
  6 redbacks
  A hog (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  6 hungry ghosts
  2 wandering mushrooms
  2 basilisks
  A yaktaur simulacrum (Vaults:4)
  A vampire mosquito (D:15)
  14 wargs
  A soldier ant (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  6 water moccasins
  Duvessa (D:7)
  4 acid dragons
  7 porcupines
  16 hell hounds (Lair:6)
  A floating eye (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  5 sky beasts
  4 ice beasts
  A deep troll skeleton (Vaults:2)
  2 eyes of draining
  44 orc warriors
  9 black bears
  A necrophage (D:9)
  51 wolves
  30 ogres
  3 boggarts (Vaults:1)
  18 centaurs
  14 crocodiles
  Blork the orc (D:6)
  4 big kobolds
  14 bullfrogs
  A glowing shapeshifter simulacrum (Vaults:2)
  Dowan (D:7)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:9)
  A small abomination (Abyss:2)
  5 scorpions
  14 killer bees
  11 wights
  An electric eel (D:10)
  6 howler monkeys
  4 centaur zombies
  A bullfrog zombie (D:11)
  11 crimson imps
  9 starcursed masses (Abyss:2)
  A quasit (Abyss:2)
  A gnoll shaman (D:5)
  7 hounds
  33 orc priests
  8 centaur skeletons
  6 iguanas
  5 jellies
  32 orc wizards
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:12)
  A hell rat (Lair:6)
  15 worker ants
  A killer bee zombie (D:5)
  2 hound skeletons
  A worker ant zombie (D:10)
  8 gnolls
  13 adders
  3 river rats (D:5)
  A shadow imp (D:6)
  A white imp (Abyss:2)
  An ufetubus (Abyss:2)
  2 oozes (Lair:6)
  2 adder skeletons (D:5)
  6 worms
  3 dart slugs
  5 leopard geckos
  116 orcs
  12 bats
  8 giant cockroaches
  7 goblins
  6 hobgoblins
  8 jackals (D:4)
  5 quokkas
  2 ball pythons
  5 frilled lizards
  18 kobolds
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:8)
  6 rats
  A starspawn tentacle (Abyss:2)
1379 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Nessos (D:12)
  2 merfolk javelineers (Shoals:4)
  A merfolk impaler (Shoals:4)
  3 hydras
  An ogre mage (D:15)
  4 two-headed ogres
  A sea snake (Shoals:4)
  An orc knight (Vaults:1)
  A deep elf mage (D:15)
  A wolf spider zombie (D:15)
  2 ugly things
  3 elephants (Lair:5)
  4 merfolk sirens (Shoals:4)
  2 black mambas
  A spiny frog (Lair:1)
  A rime drake (Lair:6)
  A freezing wraith (Vaults:2)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:2)
  2 polar bears (Lair:6)
  A merfolk (Shoals:2)
  A wind drake (Shoals:4)
  A hornet (D:10)
  6 blink frogs
  A spriggan (Lair:2)
  6 yaks
  A basilisk (D:11)
  A water moccasin (Lair:6)
  A hell hound (Lair:6)
  3 porcupines
  6 black bears
  A phantom (D:8)
  3 wolves (Lair:2)
  An ogre (D:15)
  6 crocodiles
  A big kobold (D:10)
  A bullfrog (D:9)
  3 electric eels (Lair:1)
  A crimson imp (D:5)
  A hound (D:7)
  An orc wizard (D:8)
  2 gnolls (D:5)
  3 adders
  An ooze (D:1)
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  A worm (D:2)
  4 orcs
  A goblin (D:3)
  A jackal (D:4)
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:5)
95 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A merfolk avatar (Shoals:2)
  19 oklob plants
  9 wandering mushrooms
  A spiny frog (Lair:6)
  A merfolk (Shoals:4)
  A worker ant zombie (D:9)
  23 fungi
  37 plants
  11 starspawn tentacles (Abyss:2)
  4 tentacles (Shoals:4)
  814 toadstools
921 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2395 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | 1158511 the Merfolk Transmuter began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 15/15 MP: 3/3
   221 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Dodging
   333 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/21 MP: 3/5
   354 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Sticks to Snakes
   701 | D:1      | You fall through a shaft!
   733 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 21/26 MP: 0/6
   804 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Spider Form
  1050 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging
  1562 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 15/32 MP: 1/7
  2714 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  2714 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 34/37 MP: 4/8
  2782 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations
  3152 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 43/43 MP: 5/9
  3281 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3300 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging
  3882 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3893 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Fedhas Madash
  3915 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4279 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 48/48 MP: 4/10
  4435 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
  4481 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  5404 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 54/54 MP: 7/11
  5410 | D:6      | Noticed Blork the orc
  5416 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging
  5436 | D:6      | Killed Blork the orc
  5622 | D:6      | Noticed Dethers's ghost (novice HOAK)
  5871 | D:6      | Learned a level 5 spell: Blade Hands
  6244 | D:6      | Killed Dethers's ghost
  6244 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging
  6244 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 46/59 MP: 7/12
  6471 | D:7      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  6502 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
  6632 | D:6      | Reached * piety under Fedhas
  6741 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  6895 | D:7      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  6934 | D:7      | Noticed Duvessa
  6935 | D:7      | Noticed Dowan
  6942 | D:7      | Killed Duvessa
  6953 | D:7      | Killed Dowan
  7137 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
  7159 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Transmutations
  7244 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 64/70 MP: 7/13
  7338 | D:8      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  7397 | D:8      | Noticed a dagger
  7397 | D:8      | Noticed a hand axe
  7441 | D:8      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
  7518 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Fedhas
  7685 | D:8      | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
  7789 | D:8      | Killed Erica
  8062 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
  8374 | D:7      | Killed Psyche
  8374 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  9046 | D:9      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  9085 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  9141 | D:9      | Reached *** piety under Fedhas
  9156 | D:9      | Noticed a deep elf mage
  9174 | D:9      | Killed a deep elf mage
  9174 | D:9      | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
  9174 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 46/81 MP: 8/14
  9231 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
  9298 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  9315 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  9342 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  9641 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9850 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10043 | D:10     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 10052 | D:10     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 10056 | D:10     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 10068 | D:10     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 10078 | D:10     | Reached **** piety under Fedhas
 10538 | D:10     | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
 11413 | D:11     | Noticed Nergalle
 11427 | D:11     | Killed Nergalle
 11427 | D:11     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 87/92 MP: 8/15
 11570 | D:11     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 11587 | D:11     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 11655 | D:11     | Noticed OffsetSiren's ghost (journeyman DsFE)
 11845 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 12620 | Lair:1   | Reached ***** piety under Fedhas
 12774 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 14 in Dodging
 12920 | Lair:2   | Noticed a spriggan rider
 13133 | Lair:2   | Got a spiked hat
 13144 | Lair:2   | Identified the +0 hat "Ucsovon" {-Tele rCorr Dex+4} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
 13417 | Lair:2   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 13735 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 13788 | Lair:2   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 14077 | Lair:2   | Noticed Gastronok
 14668 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 14681 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 98/103 MP: 13/16
 14782 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 15957 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 16024 | Lair:5   | Noticed Urug
 16076 | Lair:5   | Killed Urug
 16130 | Lair:5   | Got a vibrating jade amulet
 16133 | Lair:5   | Identified the amulet "Goqeisu" {Spirit rPois rF+ MR- Dex+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16401 | Lair:5   | Identified A Beginning Course on Hermeneutics
 17108 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 17505 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 16 in Dodging
 18229 | Lair:6   | Reached ****** piety under Fedhas
 18382 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 18424 | Lair:6   | Noticed Snorg
 18435 | Lair:6   | Killed Snorg
 18435 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 18501 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 114/114 MP: 11/17
 18890 | Lair:6   | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 19197 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 19386 | Lair:6   | Paralysed by a hornet for 3 turns
 19791 | D:11     | Killed OffsetSiren's ghost
 21075 | D:12     | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 21205 | D:12     | Noticed Nessos
 21409 | D:12     | Killed Nessos
 22546 | D:13     | Reached skill level 17 in Dodging
 22639 | D:14     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 107/122 MP: 19/19
 22804 | D:14     | Reached skill level 15 in Unarmed Combat
 22831 | D:14     | Noticed Louise
 22866 | D:14     | Killed Louise
 23384 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 23551 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 23971 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 24579 | D:15     | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 25038 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 25791 | Shoals:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 127/132 MP: 19/24
 25915 | Shoals:2 | Reached skill level 18 in Dodging
 26642 | Shoals:3 | Found Suvoebl Ogeo's Book Shop.
 27631 | Shoals:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Shoals
 27947 | Shoals:4 | Identified the Grimoire of Talismans and Calling
 27986 | Shoals:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
 28028 | Shoals:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 28223 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 28388 | Shoals:4 | Killed Ilsuiw
 28540 | Shoals:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 28960 | Shoals:4 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 139/140 MP: 21/27
 29135 | Shoals:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
 29269 | Shoals:4 | Noticed a kraken
 29289 | Shoals:4 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 29873 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 2 spell: Shroud of Golubria
 30335 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 30591 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 30761 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 30954 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 19 in Dodging
 31154 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 31464 | Orc:2    | Found Gukest's Distillery.
 31596 | Orc:2    | Found Oneocap's Weapon Shop.
 31785 | Orc:2    | Found Asiasch's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 31824 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 31838 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 31909 | Orc:2    | Bought a heavily runed scale mail for 234 gold pieces
 31915 | Orc:2    | Identified the +3 scale mail of Panentheism {Int+2 Slay+2} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 32037 | Orc:2    | Found Joockiwn's Assorted Antiques.
 32048 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of identify for 50 gold pieces
 32440 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 32963 | Vaults:1 | Got a smoking robe
 32975 | Vaults:1 | Identified the +2 robe "Rilitis" {rN+ Int+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults)
 33157 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 127/149 MP: 22/28
 33511 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Dodging
 33579 | Vaults:1 | Found Olehieq's Food Emporium.
 33579 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Aizul
 33592 | Vaults:1 | Killed Aizul
 33592 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Transmutations
 33693 | Vaults:1 | Bought 3 fruits for 63 gold pieces
 34584 | Vaults:1 | Paralysed by the power of Zot for 5 turns
 35734 | Vaults:1 | Learned a level 4 spell: Ice Form
 35821 | Vaults:2 | Cast into level 2 of the Abyss (a wizard)
 35829 | Abyss:2  | Got a faintly glowing leather armour
 35831 | Abyss:2  | Identified the +5 leather armour "Yfucin Mohycs" {rElec Int+4} (You found it on level 2 of the Abyss)
 36062 | Abyss:2  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 132/159 MP: 18/26
 36257 | Vaults:2 | Escaped the Abyss
 36843 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 21 in Dodging
 38581 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
 38583 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 162/168 MP: 26/30
 39755 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 39755 | Vaults:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 39756 | Vaults:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 40971 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 41142 | Vaults:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 41408 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
 41948 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 42285 | Vaults:4 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 |
---------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+-----
Transmutations |  3     4     5  6     8 10 11 12 13             14 15 17    | 17.9
Dodging        |  3     4  5     6  7  9 10 12 13 14 16 17    18 19 20 21    | 21.5
Unarmed Combat |                 4  5  7  8  9 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18    19 | 19.2
Invocations    |                          3              5                 8 |  8.5
Fighting       |                          3  6  7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17    | 17.7
Evocations     |                                      1  4                 5 |  5.5
Armour         |                                         2  4                |  4.0
Spellcasting   |                                            5  7             |  7.1
Charms         |                                               7             |  7.9
Stealth        |                                                        1  6 |  6.1
Ice Magic      |                                                           3 |  3.7

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |   111 |   181 |   345 |   722 |  1044 |  1426 |   896 ||  4725
       Headbutt          |    12 |     7 |       |       |       |       |       ||    19
       Tailslap          |       |       |     3 |       |     9 |    28 |    13 ||    53
       Punch             |       |       |     1 |     2 |    54 |   118 |    92 ||   267
 Cast: Beastly Appendage |    24 |    12 |       |       |       |       |       ||    36
       Sticks to Snakes  |     7 |    14 |    21 |    38 |    12 |     5 |     4 ||   101
       Spider Form       |       |    23 |    41 |    76 |    22 |     4 |       ||   166
       Blade Hands       |       |       |     3 |    19 |    97 |   124 |    71 ||   314
       Song of Slaying   |       |       |       |       |       |    13 |       ||    13
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |       |       |       |       |    13 |    12 ||    25
       Shroud of Golubri |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |     1 ||     4
       Ice Form          |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Invok: Fungal Bloom      |       |       |    21 |    53 |    61 |    38 |    31 ||   204
       Evolution         |       |       |       |     9 |    24 |    13 |     5 ||    51
       Growth            |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |       ||     3
       Rain              |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     3 ||     6
       Sunlight          |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |     3 ||     6
 Abil: End Transformatio |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     1 |     8 |       |       |       ||     9
       Lightning rod     |       |       |       |       |     1 |     5 |     6 ||    12
       Lamp of fire      |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |       |     9 |     4 |     3 |    10 |    18 |     5 ||    49
       Potion            |       |     1 |     1 |     5 |     2 |     5 |     5 ||    19
 Stab: Distracted        |       |     1 |     1 |    11 |     8 |     2 |     3 ||    26
       Invisible         |       |       |     4 |     2 |       |       |       ||     6
       Sleeping          |       |       |       |     1 |    13 |    11 |       ||    25
       Confused          |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |     1 ||     3
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |    14 |    13 |    28 |    52 |    48 |    27 ||   185
       Fruit             |       |       |     7 |       |       |       |       ||     7
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     2 |    10 |     5 |     1 ||    18
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |     3 |     1 |     2 |     2 ||     8
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Armor: Robe              |    47 |    16 |    12 |    14 |    20 |       |       ||   109
       Skin              |       |     3 |     6 |     6 |     2 |     1 |       ||    18
       Leather armour    |       |       |       |     5 |       |       |   120 ||   125
       Troll leather arm |       |       |       |       |   128 |   236 |     9 ||   373
Dodge: Dodged            |    99 |   168 |   319 |   834 |   980 |  1515 |   781 ||  4696

Abyss Ambulator

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Post Sunday, 18th June 2017, 20:44

Re: MeTm, and transmuting 101 questions.

Your guy looks great. Maybe more Invocations soon.

Ignore spellpower and stat contributions to Transmutations: they are weird and aiming to improve them is counterproductive because you always need more Fighting, Dodging, etc instead.

Generally, you want your forms to be around 5 or 10% fail, then back to Fighting, Dodging, and Unarmed. (You're well past this now.)

Blade Hands wrecks everything except Hydras. Ice Form has +20% HP, rC+++, rPois, cold-branded attacks and the ability to cross water (which doesn't help Mf). It's good in Lair against Spiny Frogs, Black Mambas, and somewhat against Hydras.

Statue Form can be hard to find.

Stat points go to Dex mostly.

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 8786

Joined: Sunday, 5th May 2013, 08:25

Post Sunday, 18th June 2017, 22:18

Re: MeTm, and transmuting 101 questions.

You don't want stealth skill. Spirit would be better than regeneration. Ice form will do similar damage to Blade Hands at this point, but since your armour is excellent there's not much you'll want to use it for. Similarly statue form is not really attractive for this character at all, especially since you have Ozocubu's Armour. Your transmutation skill is definitely far too high since you haven't actually found dragon form yet, but Mf doesn't really hurt for xp anyway.
Regarding stat points, each point of str is roughly +2.5% of initial base damage on average, so you basically get +(str-10)*2.5% actual damage on average for unarmed and auxes since they don't get enchantment and you don't have slaying. So decide if you'd rather have that or more ev or spellpower. Spell power doesn't really matter for any of your spells so you probably don't want that. Keep in mind that you're running into dex and EV stepdowns at this point.

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