GrEE - what to do next

Monday, 3rd April 2017, 06:38 by biffMalibu

Hello all,

This is furthest I've ever made it. Hoping to make this my first win. Got 2 runes, cleared vault 1-4 and depths. Heading to elves then maybe vault 5 (died too many times there). Looking for some advice on which way to go, what to train next. Have GrEE that can spam shatter. Also picked up some pretty sweet plate armor that I'm getting close to being able to cast shatter in. Gives him almost 60 AC. Have some OK rings too, but not sure which are ideal.

Should I go for firestorm? Something else? Have found a bunch of bookstores so can probably find most spells.

Here is my guy with archmagi robes

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.5 (webtiles) character file. biffMalibu the Metallomancer (GrEE) Turns: 78249, Time: 15:22:29 Health: 151/151 AC: 40 Str: 17 XL: 24 Next: 65% Magic: 44/44 EV: 17 Int: 40 God: Vehumet [******] Gold: 1495 SH: 8 Dex: 11 Spells: 11 memorised, 8 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . a - staff of energy rCold + . . Gourm . W - +2 robe {Archmagi} rNeg + . . Faith . E - +2 buckler {AC+3} rPois ∞ Spirit . t - +2 hat rElec + Reflect . M - +2 cloak {MR+} rCorr . Harm . l - +2 pair of gloves MR ++... U - +2 pair of boots of the Assassin {DetectMon Stab+ Stlth++} Stlth +++....... X - amulet of magic regeneration B - ring "Xuereuhu" {Str+3 Int+9 Dex-3} f - ring of the Ban {rPois rC+ Int+7 Stlth-} @: flying, delayed fireball A: big wings, hooves 1, horns 1, yellow scales 1, agile 1, negative energy resistance 1, sense surroundings 1, electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, rot immunity, AC +17 a: Stop Flying, Renounce Religion, Release Delayed Fireball }: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are very hungry. You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 41 of its levels. You have visited 2 bazaars. You have also visited: Labyrinth and Sewer. You have collected 4629 gold pieces. You have spent 3134 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons b - a +4 demon whip of freezing R - the +6 flail of the Median {holy, Str+3} (You took it off a vault warden on level 2 of the Vaults) It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead and demons. It affects your strength (+3). Armour l - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) s - the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+} (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth) It protects you from fire. It protects you from poison. t - a +2 hat (worn) E - a +2 buckler of protection (worn) M - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn) U - the +2 pair of boots of the Assassin (worn) {DetectMon Stab+ Stlth++} (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) It makes you much more stealthy. W - a +2 robe of the Archmagi (worn) Magical Staves a - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon) e - an uncursed staff of wizardry Jewellery c - the ring of Robustness {AC+8} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of protection] It affects your AC (+8). f - the ring of the Ban (left hand) {rPois rC+ Int+7 Stlth-} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of protection from cold] It affects your intelligence (+7). It protects you from cold. It protects you from poison. It makes you less stealthy. v - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion B - the ring "Xuereuhu" (right hand) {Str+3 Int+9 Dex-3} (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar) [ring of strength] It affects your strength (+3). It affects your intelligence (+9). It affects your dexterity (-3). Q - the ring "Quam" {rC+ rN+ MR+ Stlth+} (You took it off an orc on level 3 of the Depths) [ring of stealth] It protects you from cold. It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It makes you more stealthy. T - an uncursed ring of see invisible V - the ring of Lywas {-Tele +Fly MR+ MP+9 SInv} (You found it on level 3 of the Depths) [ring of magical power] It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It affects your magic capacity (+9). It lets you see invisible. It lets you fly. It prevents most forms of teleportation. X - an amulet of magic regeneration (around neck) Wands m - a wand of disintegration (11/24) r - a wand of digging (3/24) J - a wand of teleportation (7/9) K - a wand of hasting (6/9) Scrolls o - 2 scrolls of fear q - 4 scrolls of magic mapping w - 2 scrolls of silence x - 8 scrolls of remove curse y - a scroll of amnesia z - 8 scrolls of teleportation A - 2 scrolls of summoning P - 2 scrolls of blinking Z - 3 scrolls of identify Potions i - a potion of invisibility j - 6 potions of agility k - a potion of brilliance u - 3 potions of magic C - 2 potions of resistance F - 4 potions of might H - 14 potions of curing N - 2 potions of haste Y - a potion of heal wounds Comestibles d - 24 bread rations p - 21 meat rations G - 10 fruits L - 3 slices of pizza S - 10 royal jellies Skills: - Level 15.2 Fighting - Level 12.1 Maces & Flails - Level 11.0 Armour - Level 10.0 Dodging - Level 2.1 Stealth - Level 10.0 Shields - Level 17.0 Spellcasting - Level 17.0 Conjurations - Level 1.0 Translocations Level 0.7 Transmutations + Level 14.9 Fire Magic - Level 22.5 Earth Magic - Level 6.2 Evocations You have 8 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Sandblast Erth ###### 0% 1 None b - Lehudib's Crystal Sp Conj/Erth ########.. 1% 8 None c - Lee's Rapid Deconstr Erth ########.. 0% 5 None d - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #######. 1% 3 None e - Shatter Erth ########.. 2% 9 None g - Bolt of Magma Conj/Fire/Erth ########.. 0% 5 None h - Delayed Fireball Conj/Fire N/A 1% 7 None i - Fireball Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 5 None j - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None k - Iskenderun's Battles Conj/Chrm ######## 1% 5 None l - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj ######## 0% 4 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (6/6) D:10 Swamp (4/4) Lair:2 Spider (4/4) Lair:3 Slime (0/5) Lair:6 Orc (2/2) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Vaults (4/5) D:13 Crypt (0/3) Vaults:2 Depths (5/5) D:15 Zot (0/5) Depths:5 Altars: Cheibriados Dithmenos Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Ru Sif Muna Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul The Shining One Beogh Shops: D:8 [ D:9 ( D:10 ? D:12 %%*** D:14 : Orc:2 :[=: Vaults:2 = Portals: Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Abyss: Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:5 Annotations: D:4 Sigmund Swamp:4 exclusion: ghost crab Vaults:3 exclusion: entropy weaver Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to torment. Your stone body is resilient. (AC +17) You are immune to poison. Your large and strong wings let you fly indefinitely. You resist negative energy. (rN+) You are resistant to electric shocks. (rElec) You can survive without breathing. You are immune to petrification. You are immune to rotting. You have large cloven feet. You have a pair of small horns on your head. You are partially covered in yellow scales. (AC +2) You are agile. (Dex +2) You passively map a small area around you. Message History Drop what? 47/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop a +2 shield of reflection. Items here: ====== You see here a +5 demon whip of protection. Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You start removing your armour. You continue taking off your +2 robe of the Archmagi. x4 You finish taking off your +2 robe of the Archmagi. You feel strangely numb. You start putting on your armour. You continue putting on the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+}. x5 You finish putting on the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+}. Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You start removing your armour. You continue taking off the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+}. x4 You finish taking off the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+}. You start putting on your armour. You continue putting on your +2 robe of the Archmagi. x5 You finish putting on your +2 robe of the Archmagi. 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Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 | ---------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+----- Earth Magic | 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 13 15 19 22 | 22.5 Spellcasting | 3 4 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 17 | 17.0 Fighting | 5 7 9 12 13 15 | 15.2 Armour | 2 6 8 9 11 | 11.0 Conjurations | 3 4 9 12 13 17 | 17.0 Dodging | 4 7 10 | 10.0 Fire Magic | 8 9 10 11 14 | 14.9 Shields | 4 5 10 | 10.0 Evocations | 2 5 6 | 6.2 Maces & Flails | 5 10 12 | 12.1 Translocations | 1 | 1.0 Stealth | | 2.1 Transmutations | | 0.7 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 26 | | | | | | | || 26 War axe | 26 | 86 | 25 | 97 | | | | || 234 Club | 14 | | | | | | | || 14 Headbutt | | 11 | 3 | 25 | 34 | 30 | 17 | 18 || 138 Flail | | | | 60 | 14 | 133 | 18 | 17 || 242 Dagger | | | | | 73 | | | || 73 Staff | | | | | 15 | 29 | 9 | 3 || 56 Demon whip | | | | | | | 46 | 90 || 136 Cast: Sandblast | 17 | 10 | 91 | 125 | 2 | | | || 245 Lee's Rapid Decon | | | 33 | 73 | 140 | 58 | 8 | 20 || 332 Stone Arrow | | | 16 | 182 | 617 | 337 | 31 | || 1183 Mephitic Cloud | | | | 10 | 3 | | | || 13 Sticky Flame | | | | 2 | 5 | | | || 7 Bolt of Magma | | | | | 108 | 244 | 77 | 56 || 485 Petrify | | | | | 10 | 2 | | || 12 Fireball | | | | | | 264 | 87 | 85 || 436 Delayed Fireball | | | | | | 3 | | || 3 Iskenderun's Batt | | | | | | 126 | 150 | 106 || 382 Iskenderun's Myst | | | | | | 12 | 43 | 59 || 114 Shatter | | | | | | 14 | 202 | 129 || 345 Lehudib's Crystal | | | | | | | 2 | 105 || 107 Blink | | | | | | | 1 | || 1 Abil: Fly | | | | | 2 | | | 1 || 3 Stop Flying | | | | | 1 | | | 1 || 2 Release Delayed F | | | | | | 2 | | || 2 Evoke: Wand | | | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | || 6 Staff of energy | | | | | | 4 | 109 | 293 || 406 Use: Potion | | 3 | | 6 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 1 || 20 Scroll | | 7 | 4 | 17 | 16 | 23 | 10 | 10 || 87 Stab: Sleeping | 4 | 3 | | | | | | || 7 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 7 | 22 | 34 | 56 | 53 | 38 | 35 || 248 Fruit | | | 2 | 3 | | 3 | 4 | || 12 Beef jerky | | | | 4 | | 2 | | 4 || 10 Royal jelly | | | | 2 | 2 | | 1 | || 5 Pizza | | | | | 9 | 2 | 2 | 1 || 14 Meat ration | | | | | 1 | | | || 1 Armor: Robe | 29 | 47 | 35 | | | 368 | 79 | 78 || 636 Leather armour | | | 5 | 8 | | | | || 13 Ring mail | | | | 400 | 221 | | | || 621 Chain mail | | | | 8 | 363 | 33 | | || 404 Plate armour | | | | | | 35 | | || 35 Scale mail | | | | | | 2 | | || 2 Dodge: Dodged | 56 | 79 | 51 | 394 | 524 | 519 | 74 | 88 || 1785 Block: Buckler | | | | | 92 | 215 | 48 | 45 || 400 0

And here is is with sweet armor

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.5 (webtiles) character file. biffMalibu the Metallomancer (GrEE) Turns: 78259, Time: 15:23:42 Health: 151/151 AC: 59 Str: 17 XL: 24 Next: 65% Magic: 44/44 EV: 9 Int: 40 God: Vehumet [******] Gold: 1495 SH: 8 Dex: 11 Spells: 11 memorised, 8 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis . a - staff of energy rCold + . . Gourm . s - +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+} rNeg + . . Faith . E - +2 buckler {AC+3} rPois ∞ Spirit . t - +2 hat rElec + Reflect . M - +2 cloak {MR+} rCorr . Harm . l - +2 pair of gloves MR ++... U - +2 pair of boots of the Assassin {DetectMon Stab+ Stlth++} Stlth .......... X - amulet of magic regeneration B - ring "Xuereuhu" {Str+3 Int+9 Dex-3} f - ring of the Ban {rPois rC+ Int+7 Stlth-} @: flying, delayed fireball A: big wings, hooves 1, horns 1, yellow scales 1, agile 1, negative energy resistance 1, sense surroundings 1, electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, rot immunity, AC +17 a: Stop Flying, Renounce Religion, Release Delayed Fireball }: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are very hungry. You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 41 of its levels. You have visited 2 bazaars. You have also visited: Labyrinth and Sewer. You have collected 4629 gold pieces. You have spent 3134 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons b - a +4 demon whip of freezing R - the +6 flail of the Median {holy, Str+3} (You took it off a vault warden on level 2 of the Vaults) It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead and demons. It affects your strength (+3). Armour l - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) s - the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot (worn) {rPois rF+} (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth) It protects you from fire. It protects you from poison. t - a +2 hat (worn) E - a +2 buckler of protection (worn) M - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn) U - the +2 pair of boots of the Assassin (worn) {DetectMon Stab+ Stlth++} (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) It makes you much more stealthy. W - a +2 robe of the Archmagi Magical Staves a - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon) e - an uncursed staff of wizardry Jewellery c - the ring of Robustness {AC+8} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of protection] It affects your AC (+8). f - the ring of the Ban (left hand) {rPois rC+ Int+7 Stlth-} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of protection from cold] It affects your intelligence (+7). It protects you from cold. It protects you from poison. It makes you less stealthy. v - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion B - the ring "Xuereuhu" (right hand) {Str+3 Int+9 Dex-3} (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar) [ring of strength] It affects your strength (+3). It affects your intelligence (+9). It affects your dexterity (-3). Q - the ring "Quam" {rC+ rN+ MR+ Stlth+} (You took it off an orc on level 3 of the Depths) [ring of stealth] It protects you from cold. It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It makes you more stealthy. T - an uncursed ring of see invisible V - the ring of Lywas {-Tele +Fly MR+ MP+9 SInv} (You found it on level 3 of the Depths) [ring of magical power] It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It affects your magic capacity (+9). It lets you see invisible. It lets you fly. It prevents most forms of teleportation. X - an amulet of magic regeneration (around neck) Wands m - a wand of disintegration (11/24) r - a wand of digging (3/24) J - a wand of teleportation (7/9) K - a wand of hasting (6/9) Scrolls o - 2 scrolls of fear q - 4 scrolls of magic mapping w - 2 scrolls of silence x - 8 scrolls of remove curse y - a scroll of amnesia z - 8 scrolls of teleportation A - 2 scrolls of summoning P - 2 scrolls of blinking Z - 3 scrolls of identify Potions i - a potion of invisibility j - 6 potions of agility k - a potion of brilliance u - 3 potions of magic C - 2 potions of resistance F - 4 potions of might H - 14 potions of curing N - 2 potions of haste Y - a potion of heal wounds Comestibles d - 24 bread rations p - 21 meat rations G - 10 fruits L - 3 slices of pizza S - 10 royal jellies Skills: - Level 15.2 Fighting - Level 12.1 Maces & Flails - Level 11.0 Armour - Level 10.0 Dodging - Level 2.1 Stealth - Level 10.0 Shields - Level 17.0 Spellcasting - Level 17.0 Conjurations - Level 1.0 Translocations Level 0.7 Transmutations + Level 14.9 Fire Magic - Level 22.5 Earth Magic - Level 6.2 Evocations You have 8 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Sandblast Erth ###### 0% 1 None b - Lehudib's Crystal Sp Conj/Erth ########.. 11% 8 None c - Lee's Rapid Deconstr Erth ########.. 1% 5 None d - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ######.. 2% 3 None e - Shatter Erth ########.. 69% 9 None g - Bolt of Magma Conj/Fire/Erth ########.. 1% 5 None h - Delayed Fireball Conj/Fire N/A 8% 7 None i - Fireball Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 5 None j - Blink Tloc N/A 21% 2 None k - Iskenderun's Battles Conj/Chrm #######. 5% 5 None l - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj ######## 1% 4 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (6/6) D:10 Swamp (4/4) Lair:2 Spider (4/4) Lair:3 Slime (0/5) Lair:6 Orc (2/2) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Vaults (4/5) D:13 Crypt (0/3) Vaults:2 Depths (5/5) D:15 Zot (0/5) Depths:5 Altars: Cheibriados Dithmenos Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Ru Sif Muna Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul The Shining One Beogh Shops: D:8 [ D:9 ( D:10 ? D:12 %%*** D:14 : Orc:2 :[=: Vaults:2 = Portals: Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Abyss: Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:5 Annotations: D:4 Sigmund Swamp:4 exclusion: ghost crab Vaults:3 exclusion: entropy weaver Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to torment. Your stone body is resilient. (AC +17) You are immune to poison. Your large and strong wings let you fly indefinitely. You resist negative energy. (rN+) You are resistant to electric shocks. (rElec) You can survive without breathing. You are immune to petrification. You are immune to rotting. You have large cloven feet. You have a pair of small horns on your head. You are partially covered in yellow scales. (AC +2) You are agile. (Dex +2) You passively map a small area around you. Message History You start putting on your armour. You continue putting on the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+}. x5 You finish putting on the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+}. Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You start removing your armour. You continue taking off the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+}. x4 You finish taking off the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+}. You start putting on your armour. You continue putting on your +2 robe of the Archmagi. x5 You finish putting on your +2 robe of the Archmagi. You feel powerful. Char dumped successfully. Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You start removing your armour. You continue taking off your +2 robe of the Archmagi. x4 You finish taking off your +2 robe of the Archmagi. You feel strangely numb. You start putting on your armour. You continue putting on the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+}. x5 You finish putting on the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot {rPois rF+}. #P.## #.................##.## ##.P# ##P.#.#....#......#...## #<## #P..##...##..#...#.#.## ##.# #.)....>.#............. #..# ##...#................. #####.# #....#.#.............. .P#P#.# #)))!/?[:............. ......# #.)[=...[............. ......######...)@................ ......##.##P...)...}.###.##.#...# ..............[}.[...##########.# ..#.+#.PP##.#......(..# ### ..#......P...)..##...## ...............#.###.# ..P......<...P...##..# ..#..........#...###.# ..#..........#.####P.# ## There are no monsters in sight! Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 | ---------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+----- Earth Magic | 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 13 15 19 22 | 22.5 Spellcasting | 3 4 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 17 | 17.0 Fighting | 5 7 9 12 13 15 | 15.2 Armour | 2 6 8 9 11 | 11.0 Conjurations | 3 4 9 12 13 17 | 17.0 Dodging | 4 7 10 | 10.0 Fire Magic | 8 9 10 11 14 | 14.9 Shields | 4 5 10 | 10.0 Evocations | 2 5 6 | 6.2 Maces & Flails | 5 10 12 | 12.1 Translocations | 1 | 1.0 Stealth | | 2.1 Transmutations | | 0.7 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 26 | | | | | | | || 26 War axe | 26 | 86 | 25 | 97 | | | | || 234 Club | 14 | | | | | | | || 14 Headbutt | | 11 | 3 | 25 | 34 | 30 | 17 | 18 || 138 Flail | | | | 60 | 14 | 133 | 18 | 17 || 242 Dagger | | | | | 73 | | | || 73 Staff | | | | | 15 | 29 | 9 | 3 || 56 Demon whip | | | | | | | 46 | 90 || 136 Cast: Sandblast | 17 | 10 | 91 | 125 | 2 | | | || 245 Lee's Rapid Decon | | | 33 | 73 | 140 | 58 | 8 | 20 || 332 Stone Arrow | | | 16 | 182 | 617 | 337 | 31 | || 1183 Mephitic Cloud | | | | 10 | 3 | | | || 13 Sticky Flame | | | | 2 | 5 | | | || 7 Bolt of Magma | | | | | 108 | 244 | 77 | 56 || 485 Petrify | | | | | 10 | 2 | | || 12 Fireball | | | | | | 264 | 87 | 85 || 436 Delayed Fireball | | | | | | 3 | | || 3 Iskenderun's Batt | | | | | | 126 | 150 | 106 || 382 Iskenderun's Myst | | | | | | 12 | 43 | 59 || 114 Shatter | | | | | | 14 | 202 | 129 || 345 Lehudib's Crystal | | | | | | | 2 | 105 || 107 Blink | | | | | | | 1 | || 1 Abil: Fly | | | | | 2 | | | 1 || 3 Stop Flying | | | | | 1 | | | 1 || 2 Release Delayed F | | | | | | 2 | | || 2 Evoke: Wand | | | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | || 6 Staff of energy | | | | | | 4 | 109 | 293 || 406 Use: Potion | | 3 | | 6 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 1 || 20 Scroll | | 7 | 4 | 17 | 16 | 23 | 10 | 10 || 87 Stab: Sleeping | 4 | 3 | | | | | | || 7 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 7 | 22 | 34 | 56 | 53 | 38 | 35 || 248 Fruit | | | 2 | 3 | | 3 | 4 | || 12 Beef jerky | | | | 4 | | 2 | | 4 || 10 Royal jelly | | | | 2 | 2 | | 1 | || 5 Pizza | | | | | 9 | 2 | 2 | 1 || 14 Meat ration | | | | | 1 | | | || 1 Armor: Robe | 29 | 47 | 35 | | | 368 | 79 | 78 || 636 Leather armour | | | 5 | 8 | | | | || 13 Ring mail | | | | 400 | 221 | | | || 621 Chain mail | | | | 8 | 363 | 33 | | || 404 Plate armour | | | | | | 35 | | || 35 Scale mail | | | | | | 2 | | || 2 Dodge: Dodged | 56 | 79 | 51 | 394 | 524 | 519 | 74 | 88 || 1785 Block: Buckler | | | | | 92 | 215 | 48 | 45 || 400 0

Monday, 3rd April 2017, 07:09 by Sprucery

Well, I would definitely go for the plate. You already have all the damaging spells you need (LCS, Fireball, Bolt of Magma). If you really want Shatter you can go for it but it is in no way required. I wouldn't go for Fire Storm if you just want 3 runes. Train more Armour: You'll get one point of AC for every 22/13 levels of Armour, and if you had a helmet that would be 22/14, any helmets around?

Get Blink to 1%. Some good support spells: Regeneration, Animate Skeleton, Swiftness, Repel Missiles (although with low EV not so effective).

You have low MR so be very careful around paralyzers, vault sentinels, banishers etc.

Monday, 3rd April 2017, 07:56 by biffMalibu

Got mutated horns so can't wear helmets. but can't seem to kill much without using spells. I grabbed swiftness and will grab regen. At this point, feel like I need to use melee as plan B. Is there much diff between AC at 60+ vs AC at 40'ish? Do I need to develop melee?

Monday, 3rd April 2017, 08:10 by Sprucery

That demon whip should be good enough for killing stuff you don't want to waste MP on. You have it at mindelay so you don't need more weapon skill. AC 60 is much better than AC 40 imo. Put the last stat point into Str.

Monday, 3rd April 2017, 11:55 by Plantissue

I often find Slime easier than Vaults 5 as a conjuration user. But if you have never done slimes before, there are several suprising dangers to watch out for, such as azure jellies which can do a lot of cold damage and malmutating shining eyes which can be more easily dealt with by area of effect attacks and long range bolt attacks before they can get line of sight. Unfortunately I think shatter does a lot less damage to slimes.

Monday, 3rd April 2017, 13:18 by biffMalibu

Does shatter work well in slime or is there another spell to focus on for that. Haven't ever ventured there.

Monday, 3rd April 2017, 14:07 by MainiacJoe

biffMalibu wrote:Does shatter work well in slime or is there another spell to focus on for that. Haven't ever ventured there.

I think gelatinous bodies have some shatter resistance. What you really want in Slime, if you're going to take TRJ out with conjurations, is bolt spells. He spawns allies from damage and they'll block LCS and Iron Shot.

Edit: or immolation and direct damage to one of the allies.

Monday, 3rd April 2017, 14:09 by Plantissue

Most bolt spells will do. Press ctrl-f and see if you can find a shop with a spellbook with bolt of fire. If you cannot, bolt of ice, or bolt of draining, or lightling can be good alternatives. Mainly, you want to be able to kill the eyes of confusion and mutation before they can get line of sight to you. Bolts are useful to kill The Royal Jelly when it retreats behind its own spawns as well. I only recommend to do Slimes as a change of pace to Vaults as you said you die to Vaults a lot. To be honest though with AC 59 and the reliable spells that you do have is good enough to get through Vaults safely.

Monday, 3rd April 2017, 15:07 by nago

As jellies having low AC and fighting in a corridor with stone walls, LRD works well against TRJ. This char doesn't strictly need a bolt spell or why the fuck why ?immo - especially without rf+.
Shatter does 1/3 damage against flying or jellies monsters. Don't bother to cast it in Slimes.

Anyway, for a char like this V:5 is certainly much easier than Slimes.

Monday, 3rd April 2017, 15:21 by njvack

biffMalibu wrote:
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s - the +9 plate armour of the Hot Ocelot (worn) {rPois rF+}

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Monday, 3rd April 2017, 20:10 by tasonir

You should absolutely train melee, because the skills are almost entirely overlapping:

"mage": fighting (for hp), dodging, some armor, spellcasting + spell schools. "some armor" depends on what armor you're wearing as a mage, many stay light so they don't need much, but gargoyles love to stack AC, so you're already in a plate anyways, so you want more armor skill.

"fighter": Fighting, dodging, armor, weapon skill

So basically the only difference is training one skill - your weapon. You already have 12 M&F and a demon whip, so you already are a melee character. You could aim for a slightly bigger weapon (I really love eveningstars, although they are rare), but that whip is perfectly fine. Some more fighting/dodging/armor skill would help out a lot.

Tuesday, 4th April 2017, 16:10 by njvack

The other nice thing about keeping your weapon is
when a problem comes along
you must whip it

but I like tasonir's advice: train some armour, crystal spear dudes you don't like, whip monsters in their faces.

also also (others may disagree here) I might learn Stone Arrow for a cheap, quiet way to damage monsters while they move towards you. You really don't need to, but I'd usually rather spend a turn damaging monsters when they can't hurt me than just waiting around.

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