Equip question: axe choice


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Post Thursday, 9th March 2017, 22:16

Equip question: axe choice

Going with the one handed + shield route, since I haven't found a single decent two handed axe. Is it better to stick with my +9 war axe of elec, or switch to +3 broad axe of disto? I feel Council + disto is a really good combination, but I'm really bad at assessing impact of +X. Is the rule of them X/2 as your attack modifier?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20-a0-850-ge5a7832 (console) character file.

DoubleByte the Severer (Minotaur Fighter)          Turns: 40070, Time: 01:47:03

Health: 186/186    AC: 39    Str: 25      XL:     20   Next: 12%
Magic:  27/27      EV: 20    Int:  5      God:    Wu Jian [******]
Gold:   292        SH: 20    Dex: 17 (18) Spells: 17/30 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis +   a - +9 war axe (elec)
rCold    + + +     Gourm    .   Q - +13 chain mail "Ben Miub" {rC++ rN+ Str+3 Int-2}
rNeg     + . .     Faith    .   M - +0 shield {AC+3}
rPois    +         Spirit   +   B - +3 crown of Dyrovepreva {rElec Int+2 SInv}
rElec    +         Reflect  +   D - scarf {Spirit}
rCorr    +         Harm     .   j - +0 pair of gloves
MR       +....                  H - +2 pair of boots {Fly}
Stlth    ..........             s - +4 amulet of reflection
Regen    0.5/turn               d - ring "Zupnurph" {rCorr rPois rC+}
MPRegen  0.2/turn               J - +2 ring of evasion

@: no status effects
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2, rugged brown scales 1, deterioration 1, poison
resistance
}: 2/15 runes: serpentine, barnacled
a: Serpent's Lash, Heaven On Earth, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight


You are on level 2 of the Depths.
You worship Wu Jian.
Wu Jian is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 34 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth and Ice Cave.

You have collected 3761 gold pieces.
You have spent 3469 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +9 war axe of electrocution (weapon)
 b - the +5 hand crossbow "Impbane" {flame, Int+7}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It causes projectiles fired from it to burn those they strike, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
   susceptible opponents.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+7).
 c - a +3 broad axe of flaming
 G - a +3 broad axe of distortion
Missiles
 W - 377 bolts
Armour
 j - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 B - the +3 crown of Dyrovepreva (worn) {rElec Int+2 SInv}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It lets you see invisible.
 D - a scarf of spirit shield (worn)
 H - a +2 pair of boots of flying (worn)
 M - a +0 shield of protection (worn)
 Q - the +13 chain mail "Ben Miub" (worn) {rC++ rN+ Str+3 Int-2}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 11 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (-2).
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It protects you from negative energy.
Jewellery
 d - the ring "Zupnurph" (right hand) {rCorr rPois rC+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [ring of resist corrosion]
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from poison.
 s - a +4 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 t - an uncursed ring of fire
 y - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 J - a +2 ring of evasion (left hand)
 O - an uncursed ring of positive energy
Wands
 p - a wand of iceblast (13/15)
 r - a wand of paralysis (10/24)
 v - a wand of disintegration (18/24)
 x - a wand of lightning (9/15)
 E - a wand of digging (21/24)
 U - a wand of confusion (42/48)
 V - a wand of clouds (6/9)
Scrolls
 g - 7 scrolls of teleportation
 m - 5 scrolls of fog
 o - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 L - 6 scrolls of immolation
 P - 19 scrolls of remove curse
 T - 4 scrolls of holy word
 Y - a scroll of fear
Potions
 e - 10 potions of lignification
 h - 3 potions of mutation
 i - a potion of heal wounds
 k - a potion of cancellation
 l - 4 potions of ambrosia
 n - a potion of invisibility
 u - 2 potions of haste
 w - 4 potions of agility
 A - 2 potions of might
 C - a potion of brilliance
 I - 7 potions of curing
 K - 3 potions of resistance
 N - 2 potions of magic
 Z - a potion of berserk rage
Miscellaneous
 z - 3 phantom mirrors
 F - a phial of floods
 R - a lightning rod (inert)
 X - a sack of spiders
Comestibles
 f - 18 bread rations
 S - 34 fruits


   Skills:
 - Level 16.2 Fighting
 * Level 18.6(18.9) Axes
   Level 6.1(13.7) Maces & Flails
 - Level 13.9 Crossbows
 - Level 0.2 Throwing
 + Level 17.4 Armour
 + Level 14.9 Dodging
 - Level 17.3 Shields
 - Level 5.5 Spellcasting
 - Level 7.2 Evocations


You have 17 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Call Imp              Summ           #.......     99%         2    ###....
b - Confuse               Hex            #.......     100%        3    ####...
c - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      #.......     100%        3    ####...
d - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          99%         2    ###....
e - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       #.......     99%         2    ###....
f - Summon Small Mammal   Summ           #...         95%         1    ##.....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5            Lair (6/6) D:11
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:3        Snake (4/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:11            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (0/5) D:13 D:14
 Depths (2/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4 (   D:10 :   D:11 **[[*(=   Orc:2 [[=[}   Shoals:1 ?

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2
Pandemonium: Depths:2

Annotations:
D:7 exclusion: downstairs
D:9 exclusion: downstairs
D:13 exclusion: 2 downstairs
Lair:5 exclusion: downstairs


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
You are partially covered in rugged brown scales. (AC +1, +3% HP)
Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage.
Your system is resistant to poisons. (rPois)


Message History

Put on which piece of jewellery? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You're wearing all the rings you can. Remove which one?
(? for menu, Esc to cancel)
< or J - a +2 ring of evasion
> or d - the ring "Zupnurph" {rCorr rPois rC+}
You remove your +2 ring of evasion.
Oops, that ring feels deathly cold.
q - a cursed ring of loudness (left hand)
As you read the scroll of remove curse, it crumbles to dust.
You feel as if something is helping you.
Drop what? 52/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You remove your ring of loudness.
You drop an uncursed ring of loudness.
Put on which piece of jewellery? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
J - a +2 ring of evasion (left hand)
You now have 274 gold pieces (gained 7).
You now have 292 gold pieces (gained 18).
N - 2 potions of magic (gained 1)
There is a fountain of clear blue water here.
You see here a glowing short sword.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  A juggernaut (Depths:2)
  Vashnia (Snake:3)
  Rupert (Lair:5)
  A lich (Depths:1)
  The ghost of splatman the Fencer, an adept DsGl of Ru (Shoals:3)
  An acid blob (Lair:6)
  A sphinx (Depths:1)
  2 krakens
  The ghost of elan the Minotaur Blade, an adept MiGl of Wu Jian (Orc:2)
  Gastronok (D:10)
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:4)
  7 nagarajas
  2 frost giants
  Aizul (Shoals:3)
  A balrug (Depths:1)
  2 spriggan defenders (Depths:2)
  3 ghouls (D:13)
  5 stone giants
  3 very ugly things (Depths:1)
  Nessos (D:13)
  4 dire elephants (Lair:6)
  A merfolk javelineer (Shoals:4)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  8 merfolk impalers
  A fire dragon (D:15)
  Josephine (Lair:6)
  2 ice dragons (Depths:1)
  9 hydras
  3 spriggan air magi (Depths:2)
  20 naga warriors
  2 merfolk avatars
  16 anacondas
  An alligator snapping turtle (Shoals:4)
  8 centaur warriors
  16 two-headed ogres
  3 satyrs
  An alligator (Lair:3)
  6 merfolk aquamancers
  3 ogre magi
  3 tengu warriors (Depths:1)
  4 deep troll shamans (Depths:1)
  2 deep troll earth magi (Depths:1)
  Urug (Lair:3)
  9 shock serpents
  20 naga sharpshooters
  2 sun demons (Depths:1)
  3 salamander mystics
  The ghost of deifeln the Cleaver, a novice DrBe of Trog (D:8)
  6 hell knights (Depths:2)
  13 deep trolls
  A skeletal warrior (D:13)
  4 unseen horrors
  21 sea snakes
  7 naga ritualists
  21 harpies
  14 mana vipers
  A necromancer (Depths:2)
  The ghost of DoubleByte the Cleaver, a novice MiGl (D:6)
  17 ugly things
  An orc sorcerer (Orc:2)
  An orc knight (D:13)
  An oklob plant (Lair:6)
  14 manticores
  2 deep elf magi
  13 salamanders
  14 fauns
  49 black mambas
  Maurice (D:8)
  7 cyclopes
  A cyclops (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  16 naga magi
  9 elephants (Lair:6)
  3 centaur skeletons
  2 molten gargoyles (Lair:4)
  11 merfolk sirens
  A torpor snail (Lair:6)
  13 guardian serpents
  6 spiny frogs
  8 water nymphs
  2 orange demons (D:12)
  3 freezing wraiths (IceCv)
  An anaconda simulacrum (IceCv)
  A redback zombie (D:13)
  4 yaktaurs
  4 ice devils (IceCv)
  A rime drake (Lair:3)
  5 komodo dragons
  39 merfolk
  2 polar bears (Lair:5)
  A harpy zombie (D:11)
  18 trolls
  A red devil (D:12)
  3 wind drakes
  A hornet (D:14)
  9 slime creatures
  12 blink frogs
  13 snapping turtles
  17 dream sheep
  10 hippogriffs
  A vampire (D:9)
  2 shadows (D:11)
  3 air elementals (Depths:2)
  2 wyverns
  3 wraiths (Lair:6)
  16 humans
  2 fire elementals (Depths:2)
  12 water elementals
  A yak (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  56 yaks
  A death yak simulacrum (IceCv)
  2 basilisks
  2 hungry ghosts
  4 vampire mosquitoes (D:12)
  5 harpy simulacra (IceCv)
  Edmund (D:4)
  An iron troll simulacrum (IceCv)
  2 soldier ants (D:14)
  4 wargs
  69 nagas
  3 acid dragons
  15 water moccasins
  6 hydra simulacra (Depths:2)
  9 porcupines
  15 orc warriors
  3 sky beasts
  A black bear (D:7)
  An ettin simulacrum (IceCv)
  3 ice beasts
  A phantom (D:5)
  21 centaurs
  31 ogres
  A big kobold (D:11)
  18 crocodiles
  20 bullfrogs
  A gnoll sergeant (D:12)
  3 wyvern skeletons
  5 scorpions
  An elephant simulacrum (IceCv)
  6 killer bees (D:10)
  7 wights
  An electric eel (Lair:4)
  8 howler monkeys
  7 crimson imps
  4 centaur zombies
  5 bullfrog zombies
  5 lava snakes (Lair:4)
  A quasit (D:10)
  2 draconian simulacra (IceCv)
  25 orc priests
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  11 hounds
  5 iron imps
  5 jellies
  25 orc wizards
  An iguana (D:4)
  Natasha (thrice) (D:2)
  7 worker ants
  A spriggan simulacrum (IceCv)
  4 troll simulacra (IceCv)
  A killer bee zombie (D:9)
  2 wolf simulacra (IceCv)
  A centaur simulacrum (IceCv)
  A hound zombie (D:7)
  6 mummies (D:13)
  A howler monkey zombie (D:8)
  8 gnolls
  A howler monkey skeleton (D:6)
  13 adders
  A naga simulacrum (IceCv)
  2 ogre simulacra (IceCv)
  3 shadow imps
  5 white imps (IceCv)
  3 ufetubi (IceCv)
  2 oozes
  3 worms
  An adder skeleton (D:6)
  A dart slug (D:2)
  5 leopard geckos
  87 orcs
  A ball python (D:6)
  4 giant cockroaches
  10 goblins
  5 hobgoblins
  8 jackals
  14 kobolds
  4 quokkas
  6 bats
  8 frilled lizards
  A jackal skeleton (D:4)
  A quokka skeleton (D:5)
  6 rats
  2 bushes (Lair:6)
  A fungus (Lair:6)
  21 plants
  5 tentacles
1340 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A stone giant (Depths:2)
  3 merfolk javelineers
  A cyclops (Shoals:2)
  5 centaurs
  A bullfrog (D:7)
  A hound (D:7)
  An adder (D:7)
  2 ufetubi (IceCv)
  7 bushes
  5 fungi
  10 plants
  13 tentacles
50 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1390 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | DoubleByte the Minotaur Fighter began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
    87 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Axes
   224 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 14/26 MP: 1/1
  1011 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Axes
  1044 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 25/31 MP: 2/2
  1114 | D:2      | Noticed Natasha
  1121 | D:2      | Killed Natasha
  1146 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  1200 | D:2      | Noticed Natasha
  1214 | D:2      | Killed Natasha
  1214 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 39/39 MP: 3/3
  1763 | D:2      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  1788 | D:2      | Noticed Natasha
  1795 | D:2      | Killed Natasha
  1795 | D:2      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  1861 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 39/45 MP: 4/4
  2696 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  2716 | D:4      | Found Teavygai's Weapon Emporium.
  2771 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 47/51 MP: 5/5
  2779 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  2961 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  2969 | D:4      | Killed Edmund
  3053 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
  3092 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 52/57 MP: 6/6
  3099 | D:4      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  3240 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3441 | D:5      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  3600 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3976 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3982 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4241 | D:6      | Found an ornate altar of the Wu Jian Council.
  4244 | D:6      | Became a worshipper of the Wu Jian Council
  4281 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  4287 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/64 MP: 7/7
  4291 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  4762 | D:6      | Noticed DoubleByte's ghost (novice MiGl)
  4796 | D:6      | Killed DoubleByte's ghost
  4796 | D:6      | Reached skill level 11 in Axes
  4799 | D:6      | Reached skill level 12 in Axes
  5150 | D:6      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  5150 | D:6      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  5153 | D:6      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  5176 | D:6      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  5436 | D:6      | Reached * piety under Wu Jian
  5438 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 57/70 MP: 5/8
  5605 | D:7      | Reached skill level 13 in Axes
  5959 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6116 | D:7      | Gained mutation: Your system is resistant to poisons. (rPois) [potion of mutation]
  6116 | D:7      | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [potion of mutation]
  6116 | D:7      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in rugged brown scales. (AC +1, +3% HP) [potion of mutation]
  6130 | D:8      | Noticed a troll
  6130 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  6132 | D:8      | Killed a troll
  6132 | D:8      | Reached skill level 14 in Axes
  6185 | D:8      | Noticed deifeln's ghost (novice DrBe)
  6489 | D:8      | Killed deifeln's ghost
  6489 | D:8      | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
  6493 | D:8      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  6493 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 56/79 MP: 6/9
  6518 | D:8      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6560 | D:8      | Noticed Maurice
  6583 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Wu Jian
  6604 | D:8      | Killed Maurice
  6604 | D:8      | Reached skill level 16 in Axes
  6727 | D:8      | Noticed a six-headed hydra
  7425 | D:8      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  7630 | D:8      | Killed a six-headed hydra
  8088 | D:9      | Reached skill level 17 in Axes
  8282 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  8297 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  9058 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  9103 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 66/86 MP: 7/10
  9137 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
  9442 | D:10     | Reached *** piety under Wu Jian
  9475 | D:10     | Noticed Gastronok
  9808 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  9808 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  9876 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  9958 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 10223 | D:11     | Found Raanisel's Armour Shop.
 10223 | D:11     | Found Webeg's Antique Weapon Shop.
 10223 | D:11     | Found Tugro's Armour Shop.
 10225 | D:11     | Found Ciomn's General Store.
 10432 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 10490 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 10522 | D:11     | Reached **** piety under Wu Jian
 10542 | D:11     | Found Caedwauh's Assorted Antiques.
 10626 | D:11     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 10643 | D:11     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 10830 | D:11     | Bought a scroll labeled VOED CEDYDUSIY for 32 gold pieces
 10830 | D:11     | Bought a yellow potion for 28 gold pieces
 10830 | D:11     | Bought a sapphire potion for 28 gold pieces
 10830 | D:11     | Bought a scroll of identify for 64 gold pieces
 10830 | D:11     | Bought a scroll labeled WIFIZ METIHA for 32 gold pieces
 10831 | D:11     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 104/104 MP: 14/14
 10936 | D:11     | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 10950 | D:11     | Killed a nine-headed hydra
 11242 | D:11     | Found Uphinit's General Store.
 11245 | D:11     | Bought a potion of haste for 120 gold pieces
 11301 | D:11     | Found Unonti's Jewellery Emporium.
 11782 | D:12     | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
 11786 | D:12     | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
 11790 | D:12     | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
 11793 | D:12     | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 11817 | D:11     | Bought a +4 amulet of reflection for 432 gold pieces
 11856 | D:12     | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 11949 | D:12     | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 11991 | D:12     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 113/114 MP: 16/16
 12302 | D:13     | Noticed a ghoul
 12317 | D:13     | Killed a ghoul
 12317 | D:13     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 12900 | D:13     | Noticed Nessos
 12903 | D:13     | Reached ***** piety under Wu Jian
 13135 | D:10     | Found Yliemebesk's Book Boutique.
 13171 | D:10     | Killed Gastronok
 13252 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 13420 | Orc:1    | You fall through a shaft!
 13420 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 13638 | Orc:1    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 13940 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 13979 | Orc:2    | Noticed elan's ghost (adept MiGl)
 14350 | Orc:2    | Killed elan's ghost
 14604 | Orc:2    | Found Lesoicsi's Armour Shop.
 14647 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 14673 | Orc:2    | Reached XP level 14. HP: 47/130 MP: 7/18
 14952 | Orc:2    | Found Ovebrock's Armour Shop.
 14961 | Orc:2    | Found Cuenerph's Jewellery Emporium.
 14969 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 14970 | Orc:2    | Found Hirphuarph's Armour Boutique.
 15045 | Orc:2    | Found Ysion's Quality Used Wands.
 15447 | Orc:2    | Bought the ring "Zupnurph" {rCorr rPois rC+} for 458 gold pieces
 15455 | Orc:2    | Bought the +3 crown of Dyrovepreva {rElec Int+2 SInv} for 621 gold pieces
 15599 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 15608 | Lair:1   | Got a polished hand crossbow
 15610 | Lair:1   | Identified the +5 hand crossbow "Impbane" {flame, Int+7} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 15808 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Crossbows
 15830 | Lair:1   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 15831 | Lair:1   | Got a slimy buckler
 15845 | Lair:1   | Identified the +1 buckler of the Sacrificial Victim {*Corrode +Fly Str-5 Int+8} (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16362 | Lair:2   | Reached ****** piety under Wu Jian
 17540 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 17631 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 17634 | Lair:3   | Noticed Urug
 17658 | Lair:3   | Killed Urug
 17930 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Crossbows
 18505 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 19797 | Lair:5   | Noticed Rupert
 19802 | Lair:5   | Paralysed by Rupert for 6 turns
 19816 | Lair:5   | Killed Rupert
 20003 | Lair:5   | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Small Mammal
 20595 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 20621 | Lair:6   | Noticed Josephine
 20629 | Lair:6   | Killed Josephine
 20654 | Lair:6   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 20663 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 21912 | Lab      | Identified the Reference Book on Supportive Air
 21946 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 21955 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 125/145 MP: 19/19
 21986 | Lair:6   | Found a runed door.
 22623 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 22623 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 23297 | Lair:6   | Noticed an acid blob
 23308 | Lair:6   | Killed an acid blob
 23308 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Crossbows
 23506 | Lair:6   | Identified the Handbook of Entrancing Attacks
 24465 | D:13     | Killed Nessos
 24806 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 24816 | D:13     | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 25296 | D:14     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 155/155 MP: 20/20
 25377 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 25814 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 26250 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 26653 | Snake:1  | Got a coiled golden ring
 26655 | Snake:1  | Identified the ring "Usiluch" {rElec rC+++ Str-5 Stlth+} (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit)
 27414 | Snake:2  | Found a frozen archway.
 27428 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 27872 | IceCv    | Noticed an Ice Fiend
 28658 | Snake:2  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 113/162 MP: 18/21
 29335 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 29902 | Snake:3  | Noticed Vashnia
 29912 | Snake:3  | Killed Vashnia
 30541 | Snake:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit
 30595 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
 31814 | Snake:4  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 136/170 MP: 16/22
 32513 | Snake:4  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 32657 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 32819 | Shoals:1 | Found a runed door.
 32833 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 33078 | Shoals:1 | Found Azxaraats's Magic Scroll Boutique.
 33123 | Shoals:1 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 51 gold pieces
 33210 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 34980 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 35053 | Shoals:3 | Noticed splatman's ghost (adept DsGl)
 35074 | Shoals:3 | Killed splatman's ghost
 35597 | Shoals:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Shoals
 35616 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 35658 | Shoals:4 | Killed Ilsuiw
 36044 | Shoals:3 | Identified the +5 scale mail of the Evening {rCorr} (You found it on level 3 of the Shoals)
 36067 | Shoals:4 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 170/177 MP: 26/26
 36084 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Aizul
 36111 | Shoals:3 | Killed Aizul
 36714 | Shoals:4 | Got a bound ivory amulet
 36715 | Shoals:4 | Identified the amulet "Gitat" {Inacc MP+9} (You found it on level 4 of the Shoals)
 37152 | Shoals:4 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 38019 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 38437 | Depths:1 | Paralysed by a sphinx for 7 turns
 38784 | D:11     | Bought the +13 chain mail "Ben Miub" {rC++ rN+ Str+3 Int-2} for 1603 gold pieces
 39230 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Axes
 39305 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell.
 39421 | Depths:2 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 39657 | Depths:2 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 133/186 MP: 20/27
 39705 | Depths:2 | Noticed a juggernaut
 39731 | Depths:2 | Killed a juggernaut

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----
Axes           |  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 12 15 17                         18 | 18.6
Maces & Flails |                 2  6                                     |  6.1
Armour         |                             4  6  7 10    11 13 14 15 17 | 17.4
Fighting       |                             4  7  9 12 15 16             | 16.2
Dodging        |                                9       10    12    13 14 | 14.9
Evocations     |                                4  5  7                   |  7.2
Crossbows      |                                         8 12 13          | 13.9
Shields        |                                            5  9 13 15 17 | 17.3
Spellcasting   |                                                  3  5    |  5.5
Throwing       |                                                          |  0.2

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: War axe           |    81 |   122 |   157 |   341 |  1053 |  1377 |   596 ||  3727
       Headbutt          |     8 |    16 |    37 |    64 |   235 |   337 |   164 ||   861
       Flail             |       |     9 |    37 |    12 |    75 |       |       ||   133
       Broad axe         |       |       |       |       |       |       |    23 ||    23
 Fire: Hand crossbow     |       |       |       |       |    14 |    12 |    14 ||    40
Throw: Tomahawk          |       |     2 |     3 |    38 |    11 |       |       ||    54
Invok: Serpent's Lash    |       |       |       |       |     4 |     1 |     1 ||     6
 Abil: Evoke Berserk Rag |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
       Stop Flying       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     1 ||     2
       Evoke Flight      |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     3 |     6 |    14 |       |     1 ||    24
       Lightning rod     |       |       |       |       |       |       |     4 ||     4
  Use: Potion            |     2 |     1 |     5 |     5 |    12 |     7 |     1 ||    33
       Scroll            |       |       |    14 |    15 |    32 |    24 |    12 ||    97
 Stab: Confused          |       |       |       |       |     3 |       |       ||     3
  Eat: Chunk             |     1 |     6 |     7 |     4 |     8 |     2 |     5 ||    33
       Fruit             |       |       |     3 |       |     9 |       |     1 ||    13
       Bread ration      |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       |       ||     2
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |     2 |     5 |     4 |     1 ||    12
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |       |    10 |     2 ||    12
Armor: Scale mail        |    38 |    42 |    16 |       |       |       |       ||    96
       Plate armour      |       |       |    54 |   158 |   368 |   481 |   126 ||  1187
       Chain mail        |       |       |       |       |       |       |    55 ||    55
Dodge: Dodged            |    30 |    37 |    19 |    43 |   254 |   511 |   193 ||  1087
Block: Shield            |    30 |    55 |    72 |   127 |   557 |   993 |   410 ||  2244
       Reflection        |       |       |       |       |    39 |   149 |    32 ||   220

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Post Friday, 10th March 2017, 05:22

Re: Equip question: axe choice

While the war axe can get you to 3-runes easily, the broad axe would be better for going further into the game. And rElec monsters will be a pain to beat with just a war axe's damage.

For melee combos with Mi, I never had a issue with sword and shield until extended where an max enchanted Exe Axe with a good brand is very noticeable vs. 1-handers. And, you have the reflection brand so that trivializes a lot of ranged and magic threats in a 3-rune game.
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Post Friday, 10th March 2017, 14:02

Re: Equip question: axe choice

war axe is probably better, distortion is super annoying when it blinks ranged enemies away from you, especially if you are using Wu and trying to chain consecutive hits on them or something
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Post Friday, 10th March 2017, 17:17

Re: Equip question: axe choice

tabstorm wrote:war axe is probably better, distortion is super annoying when it blinks ranged enemies away from you, especially if you are using Wu and trying to chain consecutive hits on them or something


If anything, blinking monsters is at least less of a disadvantage for council god users compared to anyone else, between wall jump and lunge having monsters pushed some squares away can actually be beneficial.

Also, while possibly annoying to some people, the blinking effect is actually a pretty decent benefit most of the time. Plus distortion does slightly more damage on average than elec, and sometimes banishes them.

The only problem here really is the difference in enchantment level, which negates some of the higher base damage, but that is a temporary problem.
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Post Friday, 10th March 2017, 17:57

Re: Equip question: axe choice

Also, nothing except blink frogs resist distortion damage.
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Post Sunday, 12th March 2017, 12:59

Re: Equip question: axe choice

Fortunately, that spoilery nonsense was removed some months ago-
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