Fencer's gloves on unarmed ghoul?


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Spider Stomper

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Post Sunday, 5th February 2017, 18:21

Fencer's gloves on unarmed ghoul?

Unarmed ghoul, worth giving up claws for riposte from Fencer's Gloves?

I dumped with # on CAO, but not sure how to link morgue. Character name is Osk.

Thanks!

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Sunday, 5th February 2017, 18:24

Re: Fencer's gloves on unarmed ghoul?

It depends on UC skill. Basically any gloves are bad early game and ok late game.
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Spider Stomper

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Post Sunday, 5th February 2017, 18:54

Re: Fencer's gloves on unarmed ghoul?

Thanks! I'm around 19 (depending how many times I've used Apocalypse recently...), and it feels like I'm doing a bit better than without, so I'll plan on keeping them on.

Abyss Ambulator

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Post Sunday, 5th February 2017, 20:33

Re: Fencer's gloves on unarmed ghoul?

Regular +2 gloves might be better, too.

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Monday, 6th February 2017, 23:02

Re: Fencer's gloves on unarmed ghoul?

To give more detail: Claws rank 1 adds 2 base damage to unarmed. Depending on your background let's say you start the game with 3 unarmed skill, you then have 3 (base) + 3 (skill) + 2 (claws), for a total of 8 damage with unarmed. It's then modified by fighting and strength, but we can leave that out for now. Later on in the game with 20 unarmed, you would have 3 + 20 + 2, or 25. This is why you can usually equip gloves later on, when the claws damage isn't a big a portion of your damage.

Getting 3 or 4 (with armor skill) ac from +2 gloves is decent enough to consider, and if you have a randart or ego gloves, is probably better than going without. Fencer's gloves were changed a lot recently so I'm not sure how often a ghoul would riposte (you probably have low EV), but they should still be fairly good gloves.

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