Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?


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Post Sunday, 25th December 2016, 14:11

Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

I have a DgIE with Orb of Destruction from the Book of Power and I'm thinking of aiming for Spellforged Servitor. How easy is it to blow yourself up with that combo? I could just swap IOoD for Iron Shot if I go Servitor, but I like Orb's range and accuracy.
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Post Sunday, 25th December 2016, 14:25

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

It's an extremely powerful combo.

You can learn LCS to strengthen your servitor as well
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/papilio.html

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Post Sunday, 25th December 2016, 23:43

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

you know how orb spiders hit walls and other spiders waaaay more often than they hit you?

servitor isnt much different

you can use it with iood memorized but you'll have to babysit it constantly to stop it from killing you

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Post Monday, 26th December 2016, 03:01

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

Yeah that's what I'm afraid of, blowing myself up.
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Post Monday, 26th December 2016, 17:11

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

You know what? I just found wizardry, so carpe diem--I'm going to do it. I figure, I need to try it at least once just to say I've done it, right? The game is supposed to be fun, after all.
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Post Monday, 26th December 2016, 18:08

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

OMG it's so fun! (Famous Last Words post imminent)
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Post Monday, 26th December 2016, 19:47

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

Yep, I died: Crypt, curse skull summoned three flayed ghosts, and teleport dropped me in LOS. I've had lots fo close calls with flayed ghosts, and this time it got me.
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Post Wednesday, 28th December 2016, 11:20

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

MainiacJoe wrote:I figure, I need to try it at least once just to say I've done it, right? The game is supposed to be fun, after all.

OMG it's so fun! (Famous Last Words post imminent)

Yep, I died.

But you had fun, so all is good. Is why I go farm Dis for EXP before I finish Depths if I can. Bad for win chances, but funnnn.

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Post Wednesday, 28th December 2016, 15:49

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

I learned from it, too.
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Post Wednesday, 28th December 2016, 15:59

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

To be more specific: I did get hit by my servitor's OoD a couple times but gradually learned how to avoid that. And on the last encounter, I made several mistakes: I tried to kill the curse skull with melee instead of conjurations, I did not prioritize killing the flayed ghosts when they appeared but tried to kill the curse skull instead, and I moved off the stairs and then had it occupied by an enemy. Melee was stupid not only because of the curse skull's EV, but also because I had overwhelming killdudes and did not use it. Bottom line: I won't underestimate them again.
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Post Thursday, 29th December 2016, 18:26

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

Curse Skulls & Curse Toes are high on my danger list. Always drop your big bombs on them

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Post Thursday, 29th December 2016, 18:40

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

Speleothing wrote:Curse Skulls & Curse Toes are high on my danger list. Always drop your big bombs on them

Mine, too, now!
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Post Friday, 30th December 2016, 06:12

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

They have crazy AC also, it's very easy to spend much time attacking them without might/haste/berserk.
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Post Friday, 30th December 2016, 17:28

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

Yes, it was a good death since I learned something from it. In this case, I had just gotten a lajatang of speed to mindelay after early Eos morningstar, and this skull was 3 spaces from the downstairs into Crypt. I should have popped a servitor and nuked it, but decided since ti was so close to melee it. bade move, and I won't melee them again if I can help it. Also, more than one flalyed ghost is an emergency, always.
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Post Sunday, 1st January 2017, 12:46

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

Curse skulls are pretty much fodder if you learn LRD/Airstrike. Same deal for flayed ghosts.

It's generaly worth picking up LRD every single game on a mage though as it's a free pass through every single non-abyss rune vault and zot 5.
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Post Tuesday, 3rd January 2017, 12:50

Re: Servitor + Orb: Combo or Nombo?

I've been playing around with the Servitor, not having ever gotten traction with heavy conjurer in the past but... The Orb is of course tempting because it's high damage, only one school to get online, and option to peek into zone + fire and forget.

I did get blown up by my own Servitor once in a few character deaths already (talking someplace in Lair branches or Elf after usually clearing Lair and Dungeon). Just fighting fast moving targets got into close quarters, mostly. But it's a lot of fun all the same! :twisted:
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