Attributes changed by Jiyva <0

[Nebukadnezar]

Troll of Jiyva.
15 Str
18 str from items
0 str from mutations
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-3 str would be my actual str without str from items.

Is this intended ?

Version 0.18 offline
(Yes, I could most likely reverse this process by wearing heavy armour)

[duvessa]

yes it's intended

[Nebukadnezar]

Ended the game with just 10 str.
My 3 items with +str give +10, +4, +4
Down to -8 str unmodified it seems that Jiyva only takes the modified attributes into account which means:

a) just put on the biggest positive modifier. Jiyva will convert it to ... something
b) don't rely on ever removing these items

[BabyRage]

This can lead to unavoidable deaths technically.

[Nebukadnezar]

You get a request when you want to remove an item which would lower your attributes <=0 (thankfully).

I played it offline because I wanted to see how Jiyva behaved.
Didn't want to realize after hours of playing that my char is screwed
To me it means it is a nice good for a radical change of your char.
Should be hard to keep a hybrid working.

[Siegurt]

I once had a stat death to malmutate pushing boots off my feet which was the only thing keeping my str above 0 (i think i was playing a draconian or something), that was back in the death-by-stat-loss days, now it would just be horrible and *probably* lead to your death, instead of killing you outright.

[duvessa]

This can lead to unavoidable deaths technically.

I've seen the word "unavoidable" abused pretty badly on Tavern, but jesus christ this is a new low.

[amalloy]

As duvessa says, it's "intended", but has been changed in trunk. In versions newer than 0.18, Jiyva will not set a base stat below 1.

[BabyRage]

This can lead to unavoidable deaths technically.

I've seen the word "unavoidable" abused pretty badly on Tavern, but jesus christ this is a new low.

Because its so easy to avoid every single malmutation by using "tactics"?