Recite vs orbs of fire


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Slime Squisher

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Post Thursday, 8th September 2016, 13:32

Recite vs orbs of fire

"You are not zealous enough to affect this audience!"

Except I have 6* piety, I doubt it's very far from 200, and 27 Invocations. So, is this a bug or do you require perfect 200 piety or something?
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Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Thursday, 8th September 2016, 13:38

Re: Recite vs orbs of fire

I guess it's just not possible to be zealous enough to recite to a HD 30 monster. So basicly the message should be changed.
DCSS: 97:...MfCj}SpNeBaEEGrFE{HaAKTrCK}DsFESpHu{FoArNaBe}
FeEE{HOIEMiAE}GrGlHuWrGnWrNaAKBaFi{MiDeMfDe}{DrAKTrAMGhEnGnWz}
{PaBeDjFi}OgAKPaCAGnCjOgCKMfAEAtCKSpCjDEEE{HOSu
Bloat: 17: RaRoPrPh{GuStGnCa}{ArEtZoNb}KiPaAnDrBXDBQOApDaMeAGBiOCNKAsFnFlUs{RoBoNeWi

Abyss Ambulator

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Post Thursday, 8th September 2016, 20:00

Re: Recite vs orbs of fire

Allow me to copy/paste something I wrote the other day:

Some stuff about recite:

According to the code
  Code:
    // Resistance is now based on HD.
    // You can affect up to (x+y)/2 = 30 'power' (HD).

x is linked to skill, max 30, at 27 skill invocations.
y is linked to piety, max 30, at 200 piety.

At 22.7 invo, and 6*(160-200), you have between 24.5 and 28 power.

The description compares HD against power.
  Code:
If   (HD - power >= 0),  is too strong...
Else (HD - power >= -5), may be too strong...
Else (HD - power < 5),   is weak enough...


Now the problem is that at full power HD - power = 0. So that should return 'too strong', even though the code comment says up to 30 HD can be affected. But that's just the description.

If I read the code correctly, monster resistance is HD + 1D6 - 1. If power is at least equal then recite works. So for an OoF you have a 1/6 chance at maximum power.

Those are not exactly reliable odds, especially because you can't really know you've got 200 piety.

Any corrections are welcome!

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