No Poison Resistance - Next Steps?


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Post Wednesday, 27th July 2016, 15:44

No Poison Resistance - Next Steps?

I play a Felid Summoner and I cleared till D15, all of Lair and Orc Mines. Tops spells are Summon Shadow Creatures and Summon Hydra.
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Health: 51/51      AC:  3    Str:  4    XL:     13   Next: 60%
Magic:  28/28      EV: 25    Int: 20    God:    Sif Muna [*****.]
Gold:   404        SH:  5    Dex: 18    Spells: 6 memorised, 5 levels left
                                        Lives:  2   Deaths: 1

rFire  x . .      SeeInvis +    (weapon unavailable)
rCold  + + .      Gourm    .    (armour unavailable)
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    (shield unavailable)
rPois  .          Spirit   .    (helmet unavailable)
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    (cloak unavailable)
rCorr  .          Reflect  +    (gloves unavailable)
SustAt .          Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
MR     +....                    w - +5 amulet of reflection
Stlth  ++++++....               I - ring of ice
                                H - ring of stealth

@: quick, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: no armour, no weapons or thrown items, claws 1, fangs 3, see invisible,
carnivore 3, speed 1, shaggy fur 3, slow metabolism 1, sharp paws
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion


You are on level 1 of the Orcish Mines.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is extremely pleased with you.
You are completely stuffed.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 27 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ossuary.

You have collected 2687 gold pieces.
You have spent 2283 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Jewellery
 t - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 v - an uncursed ring of flight
 w - a +5 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 y - a ring of stealth
 A - an uncursed ring of sustain attributes
 H - a ring of stealth (left paw)
 I - a ring of ice (right paw)
 Z - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
Wands
 o - a wand of digging
 z - a wand of acid {zapped: 7}
 C - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1}
 T - a wand of iceblast
 V - a wand of confusion
 X - a wand of lightning {zapped: 8}
 Y - a wand of disintegration
Scrolls
 a - a scroll of holy word
 f - 3 scrolls labeled XUBBETAWNU
 g - 4 scrolls of blinking
 i - 8 scrolls of teleportation
 j - 5 scrolls of immolation
 k - 3 scrolls of fear
 l - a scroll of fog
 n - 10 scrolls of remove curse
 q - 9 scrolls of amnesia
 B - 2 scrolls of vulnerability
 D - 3 scrolls labeled HOIMMU UCLA
 Q - a scroll labeled YRUQOCLISI
Potions
 c - 5 potions of curing
 d - 6 potions of lignification
 m - a murky green potion
 p - 2 potions of cancellation
 r - 5 potions of haste
 u - 3 potions of cure mutation
 x - 5 potions of brilliance
 F - a bubbling blue potion
 J - a potion of heal wounds
 M - a cyan potion
 O - a murky white potion
 R - 2 potions of agility
 S - a lumpy silvery potion
Miscellaneous
 U - a sack of spiders
Comestibles
 b - 13 meat rations
 h - 3 beef jerkies
 s - 10 royal jellies
 E - 9 chunks of flesh
 N - a slice of pizza


   Skills:
 - Level 3.0 Fighting
 - Level 9.3 Dodging
 - Level 9.0 Stealth
 - Level 10.0 Spellcasting
 + Level 17.5 Summonings
 - Level 3.2 Translocations
 - Level 4.1 Ice Magic
 - Level 3.0 Air Magic
 - Level 6.9 Invocations


You have 5 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Shadow Creatures      Summ           N/A          1%          6    ######.
b - Summon Hydra          Summ           ######....   4%          7    #######
c - Call Canine Familiar  Summ           ######..     0%          3    None
e - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ######..     1%          4    ##.....
f - Summon Lightning Spi  Summ/Air       ######..     1%          4    ##.....
g - Recall                Summ/Tloc      N/A          1%          3    None


The problem is that so far I have not found rPois (also not in shops). Available branches are Swamp and Spider's Nest, additional to the Elves etc. Common advice seems to be to get swamp dragon armour, which does not work for Felid.

How should I proceed? I thought w.r.t. branches Elves would be best. However, to survive best approach would be to learn Transmutation and Ice Magic and learn Ice Form, I guess?

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Post Wednesday, 27th July 2016, 16:03

Re: No Poison Resistance - Next Steps?

rPois is completely unnecessary. Just don't stand in poison clouds. Other sources don't poison you fast enough to matter, and !curing exists.

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Post Wednesday, 27th July 2016, 16:26

Re: No Poison Resistance - Next Steps?

ydeve wrote:rPois is completely unnecessary. Just don't stand in poison clouds. Other sources don't poison you fast enough to matter, and !curing exists.

This is a felid. Anything is good enough to kill a felid, even an unarmed hobgoblin :D

The first thing this character needs to do is to take off that ring of ice. Why are you wearing it anyway?

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Post Wednesday, 27th July 2016, 16:38

Re: No Poison Resistance - Next Steps?

I would read-ID those scrolls, too.

After some initial trepidation, I've come around to the idea that rPois is nice but not essential for the two poison S-branches--though I've not played Felids, so yeah, fragile. NB your Hydra, Ice Beast, and Lightning Spire are all rPois. Invisibility works nearly universally in both of these branches. Your ring of flight will help you in Swamp to maneuver to keep your summons between you and enemies.

Swamp is easier than Spider, but the poison clouds from swamp dragons and especially the mephitic breath of swamp drakes are the biggest danger there without rPois.
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Post Wednesday, 27th July 2016, 16:38

Re: No Poison Resistance - Next Steps?

Magipi wrote:The first thing this character needs to do is to take off that ring of ice. Why are you wearing it anyway?

I explored Swamp and there it seemed like a good idea, as there are no fire monsters, but some monsters with cold attacks.

I also think that the character is too fragile to go without rPois. Quaffing a potion costs time, poison clouds would limit my mobility and I only have 5 potions of curing.

So, Ice Form it is.

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Post Friday, 29th July 2016, 17:28

Re: No Poison Resistance - Next Steps?

It's fine to skip lair branches if you don't have the resistances for it. The area of the game that will make your character strong enough to win the game will most likely be in clearing Vaults, Crypt and Depths. By that point all your key skills should be 20+.

Some character combos can even farm abyss around that time to build up.

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Post Friday, 29th July 2016, 18:03

Re: No Poison Resistance - Next Steps?

Train at least some Fighitng and more Dodging. You don't really need any more Summoning at the moment, or perhaps ever.

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