Trying to win a DD


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Blades Runner

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Joined: Friday, 1st April 2016, 18:15

Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 15:50

Re: Trying to win a DD

Got the spider rune! woop woop woop!

The manual agrees with the wiki, but they're both wrong. I got my stats back by the end of Spider.

Spider:4 was somewhat challenging (emperor scorpions are apparently tougher than dragons), but with some stairdancing, I killed both the rune guards and an entropy weaver/soldier ant vault.

Onto vaults!

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file.

Figem the Severer (Deep Dwarf Artificer)           Turns: 42155, Time: 02:57:40

Health: 157/163    AC: 27    Str: 22    XL:     17   Next: 72%
Magic:  7/24       EV: 14    Int:  9    God:    Pakellas [****..]
Gold:   981        SH:  3    Dex: 15    Spells: 5 memorised, 6 levels left

rFire  + + .      SeeInvis .    a - +4 battleaxe (freeze)
rCold  + . .      Gourm    .    j - +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+}
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    (shield currently unavailable)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    s - +2 helmet
rElec  +          Dismiss  .    S - +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2}
rCorr  +          Reflect  +    l - +0 pair of gloves
SustAt .          Harm     .    V - +1 pair of boots
MR     ++++.                    u - +3 amulet of reflection
Stlth  ..........               X - ring of resist corrosion
                                v - ring of Cowardice {rPois Str+4}

@: non-regenerating, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely
unstealthy
A: damage resistance, recharge devices, negative energy resistance 1, sense
surroundings 2, slow regeneration 3
a: Device Recharging, Quick Charge, Device Surge, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You are on level 4 of the Spider Nest.
You worship Pakellas.
Pakellas is greatly pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 32 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer and Ossuary.

You have collected 2880 gold pieces.
You have spent 1899 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +4 battleaxe of freezing (weapon)
 b - a +1 hand crossbow of freezing
 C - the +2 dire flail "Curefrucw" {freeze, +Fly rPois Str+4 SInv}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
   susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It protects you from poison.
   It lets you see invisible.
   It lets you fly.
 R - a +2 morningstar of venom
Missiles
 J - 230 bolts
Armour
 j - the +5 chain mail of Leaves (worn) {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (-4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 l - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 m - a +6 plate armour of fire resistance
 s - a +2 helmet (worn)
 S - the +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo (worn) {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (-2).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 V - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
Rods
 U - a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
 W - a +5 rod of shadows (13/13)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
Jewellery
 p - an uncursed ring of flight
 q - a +6 ring of dexterity
 u - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 v - the ring of Cowardice (left hand) {rPois Str+4}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 13 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of strength]
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It protects you from poison.
 w - an uncursed ring of ice
 X - a ring of resist corrosion (right hand)
Wands
 c - a wand of flame (36/48)
 d - a wand of enslavement (15/24)
 e - a wand of random effects (31/48)
 f - a wand of heal wounds (9/9)
 h - a wand of disintegration (12/24)
 r - a wand of teleportation (4/9)
 t - a wand of paralysis (19/24) {god gift}
 y - a wand of confusion (13/48)
 B - a wand of slowing (27/48)
 E - a wand of polymorph (11/24)
 I - a wand of iceblast (8/15)
 M - a wand of hasting (4/9)
 P - a wand of acid (4/15)
 Q - a wand of lightning (0/15)
Scrolls
 n - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 o - 11 scrolls of remove curse
 F - 6 scrolls of blinking
 G - 7 scrolls of fear
 H - 6 scrolls of fog
 K - 7 scrolls of magic mapping
 T - a scroll of silence
 Z - 15 scrolls of identify
Potions
 k - 6 potions of curing
 x - 3 potions of haste
 D - 5 potions of might
 L - a potion of ambrosia
 O - 2 potions of resistance
 Y - a potion of magic
Miscellaneous
 A - a lamp of fire {god gift}
 N - a disc of storms
Comestibles
 g - 12 bread rations
 i - 13 meat rations
 z - 26 fruits


   Skills:
 + Level 13.1 Fighting
   Level 2.0(2.2) Short Blades
   Level 1.2(1.9) Long Blades
 * Level 20.5(20.8) Axes
 - Level 6.2(14.1) Maces & Flails
 + Level 3.1 Crossbows
 + Level 14.4 Armour
 + Level 9.7 Dodging
 - Level 3.0 Stealth
 + Level 15.7 Evocations


You have 6 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Shock                 Conj/Air       #...         99%         1    ##.....
b - Summon Butterflies    Summ           #.......     99%         1    ##.....
c - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       #.....       100%        2    ###....
d - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      #.......     100%        3    ####...
e - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  #.......     100%        3    ####...


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (14/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (6/6) D:8
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:3       Spider (4/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:11            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (1/5) D:14

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Pakellas
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:13 =   Orc:2 }([}

Annotations:
Lair:6 exclusion: 3 doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to damage.
You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy.
You resist negative energy. (rN+)
You passively map the area around you.
You do not regenerate naturally.


Message History

T - a scroll o' silence
Thar be a stone staircase leadin' up 'ere.
Ye found a web!
Done 'splorin'.
What be yer orders?
 t - Shout!
Orders fer allies: a - Attack new target.
                   r - Retreat!             s - Stop attackin'.
                   g - Guard tha area.      f - Follow me.
 Anythin' else - Cancel.
Okay, than.
Move tha cursor ta view tha level map, or type ? fer a list o' commands.
Returnin' ta tha game...
Unknown command.
Done 'splorin'.
Save game an' 'sit?
Welcome back, Figem tha Deep Dwarf Artificer.
Pakellas says: Ready ta try out some more devices?
Press ? fer a list o' commands an' othar information.
Ye haf 981 gold pieces.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Bai Suzhen (Swamp:3)
  A bone dragon (Swamp:4)
  Rupert (D:14)
  Frances (Swamp:2)
  Gastronok (Lair:1)
  3 thorn hunters
  2 orc warlords (Orc:2)
  An emperor scorpion (Spider:4)
  5 ghost moths (Spider:4)
  2 entropy weavers (Spider:3)
  The ghost of Figem the Cleaver, a journeyman DDAr of Pakellas (Orc:1)
  2 fire dragons
  An ogre mage (Vaults:1)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  7 hydras
  4 vault guards (D:14)
  3 ghost crabs
  5 centaur warriors
  A death knight (D:13)
  Erica (D:8)
  6 alligators
  A queen ant (Spider:4)
  Urug (Orc:1)
  4 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  4 unseen horrors
  2 swamp dragons
  3 hill giants (D:12)
  A necromancer (Spider:3)
  4 orc knights
  2 phantasmal warriors
  An oklob plant (Swamp:4)
  4 orc sorcerers (Orc:2)
  4 griffons
  3 deep elf magi
  5 hornets
  19 wolf spiders
  3 manticores
  14 orb spiders
  A salamander (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  10 ugly things
  A centaur zombie (D:10)
  A cyclops (D:14)
  2 black mambas (Lair:5)
  A moth of wrath (Spider:2)
  8 elephants
  A vault sentinel (Vaults:1)
  16 spiny frogs
  3 komodo dragons
  2 kobold demonologists (D:13)
  A torpor snail (Spider:2)
  6 swamp worm zombies (Swamp:4)
  3 gargoyles
  2 freezing wraiths (D:13)
  A tengu conjurer (D:13)
  A rime drake (Lair:5)
  An efreet (D:13)
  10 demonic crawlers
  4 hydra zombies (Swamp:4)
  38 jumping spiders
  3 meliai (Spider:1)
  A queen bee (Spider:1)
  12 two-headed ogres
  7 trolls
  Grinder (D:3)
  9 bog bodies
  9 giant leeches
  5 spectral swamp dragons (Swamp:4)
  3 boulder beetles
  8 slime creatures
  29 blink frogs
  A hornet zombie (D:14)
  2 alligator zombies (Swamp:4)
  Sigmund (D:3)
  38 tarantellas
  3 spriggans
  2 shadows
  39 yaks
  A vampire (D:10)
  59 redbacks
  A wraith (D:13)
  4 wyverns
  4 basilisks
  14 hippogriffs
  Grum (Lair:1)
  2 hungry ghosts
  A mottled dragon (D:14)
  10 vampire mosquitoes
  8 insubstantial wisps
  13 soldier ants (Spider:4)
  7 wargs
  A soldier ant (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  23 swamp worms
  Edmund (D:4)
  2 hell hounds (D:8)
  11 water moccasins
  7 porcupines
  49 orc warriors
  3 swamp dragon zombies (Swamp:4)
  6 swamp drakes
  20 ogres
  8 ice beasts
  3 sky beasts
  12 wasps
  3 black bears
  An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  3 necrophages
  9 phantoms
  18 wolves
  12 centaurs
  13 crocodiles
  20 giant frogs
  A big kobold (D:8)
  2 wyvern zombies
  A wyvern skeleton (D:7)
  5 scorpions
  22 killer bees
  3 wights (D:8)
  2 vampire bats (Lair:5)
  2 electric eels
  8 crimson imps
  A wasp zombie (D:12)
  7 jellies
  23 orc wizards
  6 centaur skeletons
  2 giant frog zombies
  13 hounds
  3 human zombies (Ossuary)
  34 orc priests
  3 giant frog skeletons
  9 iguanas
  2 spectral swamp drakes (Swamp:4)
  25 worker ants
  10 sheep
  3 hound zombies
  A hound skeleton (D:8)
  4 mummies (Ossuary)
  2 worker ant zombies
  6 gnolls
  20 adders
  32 river rats
  A swamp drake zombie (Swamp:4)
  10 shadow imps
  4 oozes
  4 adder zombies
  An adder skeleton (D:9)
  2 worms
  A dart slug (D:2)
  5 giant geckos
  141 orcs
  7 bats
  6 giant cockroaches
  2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary)
  11 goblins
  9 hobgoblins
  12 jackals
  21 kobolds
  7 quokkas
  15 ball pythons
  8 giant newts
  A jackal skeleton (D:5)
  3 jackal zombies (Ossuary)
  A kobold zombie (Ossuary)
  An orc zombie (Ossuary)
  A quokka skeleton (D:9)
  2 quokka zombies
  26 rats
  A butterfly (Lair:1)
  4 fungi
1320 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  2 emperor scorpions (Spider:4)
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  Nessos (Lair:4)
  A stone giant (Orc:2)
  3 orc knights
  A hornet (Spider:4)
  A centaur zombie (D:12)
  A spiny frog (Lair:5)
  3 blink frogs (Lair:5)
  5 orc warriors
  An ogre (Orc:1)
  An eye of draining (D:12)
  4 vampire bats (Lair:5)
  An orc wizard (Orc:1)
  An orc priest (Orc:2)
  9 orcs
  2 bats (Lair:5)
  A fungus (Lair:1)
39 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orb spider (Spider:4)
  A jumping spider (Spider:4)
  3 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:4)
  A wolf (Lair:6)
  A crocodile (Lair:6)
  A bush (Lair:3)
  14 fungi
  3 plants
25 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1384 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3
   198 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5
   383 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
   388 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   581 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6
   766 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  1144 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  1144 | D:2      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  1145 | D:2      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  1221 | D:2      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  1650 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7
  1774 | D:3      | Noticed Sigmund
  1885 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8
  2134 | D:3      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  2134 | D:3      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  2137 | D:3      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  2543 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2547 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
  2560 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  2560 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8
  3010 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3017 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3305 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3322 | D:4      | Killed Edmund
  3322 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
  3322 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Axes
  3322 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9
  3471 | D:4      | Reached skill level 2 in Axes
  3759 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3772 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
  3922 | D:5      | Reached skill level 3 in Axes
  3948 | D:5      | Found a glowing drain.
  3969 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  4248 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  4355 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10
  4472 | D:5      | Reached skill level 4 in Axes
  4662 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  4955 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  4962 | D:6      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  4969 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth]
  4969 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11
  5175 | D:6      | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas.
  5200 | D:6      | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive
  5254 | D:6      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  5309 | Ossuary  | Entered an ossuary
  5382 | Ossuary  | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  5857 | D:7      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  6140 | D:7      | Reached * piety under Pakellas
  6140 | D:7      | Received a gift from Pakellas
  6233 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  6439 | D:7      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  6941 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  6941 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/90 MP: 13/13
  6999 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Pakellas
  6999 | D:8      | Received a gift from Pakellas
  7314 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7347 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  7349 | Lair:1   | Noticed Gastronok
  7386 | Lair:1   | Killed Gastronok
  7386 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  7410 | Lair:1   | Noticed Grum
  7430 | Lair:1   | Killed Grum
  7520 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  7850 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
  7863 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
  7901 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/99 MP: 1/15
  8822 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 11 in Axes
  8898 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
  9422 | Lair:3   | Identified the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
  9457 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
  9482 | Lair:3   | Killed a four-headed hydra
  9895 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 12 in Axes
  9904 | Lair:3   | Got a twisted ring mail
  9915 | Lair:3   | Identified the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 10101 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
 10128 | D:8      | Killed Erica
 10128 | D:8      | Reached XP level 12. HP: 61/110 MP: 5/17
 10511 | D:9      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
 11049 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 12321 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 12372 | D:11     | Reached skill level 13 in Axes
 12968 | D:12     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 12969 | D:12     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 12983 | D:12     | Killed a centaur warrior
 13013 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 13216 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 13230 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 13230 | Lab      | Reached skill level 14 in Axes
 13237 | Lab      | Identified the cursed +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 13252 | Lab      | Got a fine chain mail
 13259 | Lab      | Identified Neboaw's Papyrus of the Bard (You found it in a labyrinth)
 13266 | Lab      | Learned a level 1 spell: Shock
 13268 | Lab      | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
 13271 | Lab      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
 13275 | Lab      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
 13279 | Lab      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
 13291 | Lab      | Identified the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 13448 | D:12     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 90/120 MP: 17/17
 13495 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 13591 | D:12     | Identified a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 14589 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 14689 | D:14     | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
 14740 | D:14     | Noticed Rupert
 15043 | Lair:3   | Identified a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 15750 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 16142 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 16381 | Lair:4   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 16700 | Lair:4   | Noticed Nessos
 16765 | Lair:4   | Killed Nessos
 17382 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
 17498 | Lair:5   | Gained mutation: You resist negative energy. (rN+) [Deep Dwarf growth]
 17498 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 93/130 MP: 1/19
 18189 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 18484 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 18657 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 19395 | D:10     | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors!
 19395 | D:13     | Found Lyuziqaso's Jewellery Boutique.
 19465 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 19687 | Orc:1    | Noticed Figem's ghost (journeyman DDAr)
 19765 | D:11     | Reached skill level 16 in Axes
 19929 | Orc:1    | Killed Figem's ghost
 20225 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 20464 | Orc:2    | Noticed a stone giant
 20474 | Orc:2    | Killed a stone giant
 20474 | Orc:2    | Reached *** piety under Pakellas
 20474 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Pakellas
 20729 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 20734 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 21250 | Orc:2    | Found Feodos's Weapon Emporium.
 21282 | Orc:2    | Found Ufedestro's Gadget Shoppe.
 21301 | Orc:2    | Bought a wand of teleportation (4/9) for 384 gold pieces
 21319 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 21352 | Orc:2    | Bought a +0 bardiche for 108 gold pieces
 21352 | Orc:2    | Bought the cursed +2 dire flail "Curefrucw" {freeze, +Fly rPois Str+4 SInv} for 481 gold pieces
 21614 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 21658 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 22115 | Orc:2    | Found Hygoes's Antique Armour Boutique.
 22183 | Orc:2    | Found Jeamaq's Gadget Emporium.
 22279 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 22698 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 23116 | Orc:1    | Noticed Urug
 23186 | Orc:1    | Noticed an orc warlord
 23347 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 23567 | D:13     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 92/140 MP: 2/21
 24561 | D:13     | Bought the ring of Cowardice {rPois Str+4} for 573 gold pieces
 24902 | Orc:2    | Bought a wand of disintegration (13/24) for 272 gold pieces
 24940 | Orc:1    | Killed Urug
 25507 | D:14     | Killed Rupert
 25507 | D:14     | Reached skill level 17 in Axes
 26814 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 27552 | Orc:2    | Bought a pair of boots for 81 gold pieces
 28308 | Swamp:1  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 28321 | Swamp:1  | Killed a thorn hunter
 28604 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Frances
 28864 | Swamp:2  | Killed Frances
 30149 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
 30156 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
 30158 | D:3      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 30342 | D:3      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 30447 | D:3      | Killed Sigmund
 31077 | Swamp:3  | Reached skill level 18 in Axes
 31418 | Swamp:3  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 31442 | Swamp:3  | Killed a thorn hunter
 31442 | Swamp:3  | Reached XP level 16. HP: 70/152 MP: 1/22
 31480 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 31702 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 31712 | Swamp:4  | Killed a thorn hunter
 31857 | Swamp:4  | Noticed Bai Suzhen
 32019 | Swamp:3  | Killed Bai Suzhen
 33711 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a bone dragon
 33908 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 34328 | Swamp:4  | Killed a bone dragon
 34568 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 36619 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Axes
 37075 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Crossbows
 38374 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Evocations
 38908 | Spider:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Spider Nest
 38913 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 162/162 MP: 1/24
 39466 | Spider:4 | Reached **** piety under Pakellas
 39466 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Pakellas
 39636 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 20 in Axes
 40262 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 41002 | Spider:4 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------+-----
Short Blades   |     1        2                                     |  2.0
Fighting       |     1           2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 | 13.1
Armour         |        1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9    11 12 13 14    | 14.4
Dodging        |        3     4        5           7  8     9       |  9.7
Evocations     |              5        6  7  9 10 11 12 13 14 15    | 15.7
Stealth        |                 2                 3                |  3.0
Long Blades    |                 1                                  |  1.2
Axes           |                 1  3  5  8 10 12 14 15 16 18 19 20 | 20.5
Maces & Flails |                    1  3  4           5     6       |  6.2
Crossbows      |                                               2  3 |  3.1

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |   245 |    56 |       |       |       |       ||   301
       Long sword        |       |    59 |       |       |       |       ||    59
       Broad axe         |       |    95 |   516 |   425 |       |       ||  1036
       Dire flail        |       |       |    45 |    34 |   206 |    95 ||   380
       Battleaxe         |       |       |       |   455 |  1473 |  1114 ||  3042
       Great sword       |       |       |       |    11 |       |       ||    11
       Great mace        |       |       |       |       |   129 |       ||   129
       Hand crossbow     |       |       |       |       |       |    13 ||    13
 Fire: Hand crossbow     |       |       |       |       |       |   105 ||   105
Throw: Throwing net      |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Invok: Quick Charge      |       |       |     1 |    64 |   128 |    94 ||   287
       Device Surge      |       |       |       |       |     3 |       ||     3
 Abil: Device Recharging |       |     1 |     1 |     2 |       |       ||     4
       Evoke Flight      |       |       |     3 |     1 |     3 |       ||     7
       Stop Flying       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |     3 |    17 |    31 |    95 |   152 |   126 ||   424
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |    75 |     6 ||    81
       Disc of storms    |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     6 |     1 |     5 |    26 |    19 |     9 ||    66
       Potion            |       |       |     2 |     7 |     2 |     2 ||    13
 Stab: Confused          |       |     1 |       |       |     1 |       ||     2
       Sleeping          |       |       |       |     3 |       |       ||     3
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 |     5 |       ||     6
       Held in net/web   |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     4 |     7 |    19 |    63 |    17 ||   113
       Bread ration      |       |       |     2 |     1 |     2 |     5 ||    10
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |     3 |     1 |       ||     4
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
Armor: Ring mail         |    98 |    44 |       |   141 |       |       ||   283
       Plate armour      |       |    62 |   569 |   381 |   725 |   975 ||  2712
       Chain mail        |       |       |       |    23 |   533 |   340 ||   896
Dodge: Dodged            |   148 |   113 |   315 |   569 |  1092 |  1082 ||  3319
Block: Other             |       |    24 |   109 |   150 |   264 |   201 ||   748
       Reflection        |       |       |     1 |     3 |     7 |       ||    11


Question: Does Device Surge increase how much HP is granted by a /oHW?
Last edited by jwoodward48ss on Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 16:01, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 15:57

Re: Trying to win a DD

  Code:
Speed: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 101-138 | AC/EV: 20/12 | Damage: 30(poison:28-56), 15(claw), 15(claw)
Speed: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 75-105 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Damage: 20, 13, 13


Yeah one is significantly worst of the other in melee. Actually emperor scorpion are tough shit and have totally insane defences for the branch they appear.
But both have low MR (60) and you had:

  Code:
 d - a wand of enslavement (15/24)
 t - a wand of paralysis (19/24) {god gift}
 y - a wand of confusion (13/48)
 B - a wand of slowing (27/48)
 E - a wand of polymorph (11/24)


and pakellas. You should have killed them all easily with \paralysis.
Actually spider is the easiest rune, in my opinion, for an hexer\evo user because practically nothing inside has MR
screw it I hate this character I'm gonna go melee Gastronok

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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 16:03

Re: Trying to win a DD

Ah. Good to know for next time.

How tough is Xhathauua? Because I found him. On V:2.
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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 16:05

Re: Trying to win a DD

Congrats!

Also, I see you finally got some gloves and boots, that makes me happy. Don't want to run around the dungeon in filthy socks with dirty hands, right?

Firstly, a warning: DON'T GO TO VAULTS 5!

Have you done vaults before? There are a few big things to look out for:
Ironbrand Convoker: These guys are in yellow, they are big trouble. They can recall allies from elsewhere on the level. A little flag appears over their head, and in 3-4 turns, lots of allies will start appearing around them. On top of that, they can cast might on their allies, giving them double damage. You want these bastards dead, or out of LOS as soon as possible.

Vault Wardens: These are the guys in red, they can lock doors and staircases, meaning no escape until you kill them. This makes them priority targets if you're in a situation you would like to be able to escape. Being in a room with one of these and a convoker can turn from an easy situation into a horrible disaster pretty fast! They can lock doors and stairways, but they don't block teleportation, so keep that in mind if things get ugly.

Flayed Ghosts: You might run into one of two of these in vaults. They have a special spell (flay) that takes away a ton of health from anywhere in LOS, and they can cast it on you multiple times. When you kill the ghost, or get away from it for long enough, the flayed status will go away and you get the health back, but they are really dangerous with other enemies around. Killing them quickly or getting away should be a priority!

Vault Sentinals are normally problematic because they cast mark, but you have very good MR so I doubt you'll have much of a problem with that. If you do get marked, realize that every enemy on the map is now beelining toward you, and knows exactly where you are for as long as the mark status lasts. If you get marked it's usually a good idea to run to the nearest stairway up, and rest it off on a cleared level.


Just like before, take it slow, lure enemies back to cleared areas, and don't be afraid to bravely run away. And DON'T go to vaults 5!

I repeat, DO NOT GO TO VAULTS 5. It's a very hard level, much harder than anything you've faced so far, and you want to save it for after you've cleared the depths. Do vaults 1-4, then depths, then maybe do vaults 5 for you 3rd rune.

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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 16:08

Re: Trying to win a DD

Yeah, I know about V:5. Haven't seen it yet, but I _have_ seen the many YASD associated with it.

Thanks for the warnings. I've already come up against a flayed ghost as part of a necromantic team. Almost died when the death knight invoked Damage Mirror, but running away solved that. And I teleported away from a warden/convoker combo. Man that got bad quick. Stairdancing FTW.

What about Xwhothua? How tough is he, compared to, say, Bai Suzhen?
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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 16:17

Re: Trying to win a DD

Easier. I think they might have gained paralysis though, so check for that and wear MR if you can.

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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 16:18

Re: Trying to win a DD

Scratch that. I make backups as I go, in case I die stupidly. Died to Boris, since I underestimated his Iron Shot. Hmm, he's both magic-immune and resistant to everything under the sun. How the hell do I kill him? (Or just don't... just stash him on a level and leave?) I'm rolling back, since I'd rather not spend another two days making this character again.

I'm now in V:1 again, with the whole level left to cleave through. Hehehe...

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file.

Figem the Severer (Deep Dwarf Artificer)           Turns: 42445, Time: 02:58:32

Health: 163/163    AC: 32    Str: 22    XL:     17   Next: 73%
Magic:  3/24       EV: 12    Int: 13    God:    Pakellas [****..]
Gold:   981        SH:  3    Dex: 15    Spells: 5 memorised, 6 levels left

rFire  + + +      SeeInvis .    a - +4 battleaxe (freeze)
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    m - +6 plate armour {rF+}
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    (shield currently unavailable)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    s - +2 helmet
rElec  +          Dismiss  .    S - +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2}
rCorr  +          Reflect  +    l - +0 pair of gloves
SustAt .          Harm     .    V - +1 pair of boots
MR     ++...                    u - +3 amulet of reflection
Stlth  ..........               X - ring of resist corrosion
                                v - ring of Cowardice {rPois Str+4}

@: non-regenerating, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely
unstealthy
A: damage resistance, recharge devices, negative energy resistance 1, sense
surroundings 2, slow regeneration 3
a: Device Recharging, Quick Charge, Device Surge, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You are on level 1 of the Vaults.
You worship Pakellas.
Pakellas is greatly pleased with you.
You are hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 32 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer and Ossuary.

You have collected 2880 gold pieces.
You have spent 1899 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +4 battleaxe of freezing (weapon)
 b - a +1 hand crossbow of freezing
 C - the +2 dire flail "Curefrucw" {freeze, +Fly rPois Str+4 SInv}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
   susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It protects you from poison.
   It lets you see invisible.
   It lets you fly.
 R - a +2 morningstar of venom
Missiles
 J - 230 bolts
Armour
 j - the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (-4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 l - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 m - a +6 plate armour of fire resistance (worn)
 s - a +2 helmet (worn)
 S - the +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo (worn) {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (-2).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 V - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
Rods
 U - a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
 W - a +5 rod of shadows (13/13)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
Jewellery
 p - an uncursed ring of flight
 q - a +6 ring of dexterity
 u - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 v - the ring of Cowardice (left hand) {rPois Str+4}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 13 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of strength]
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It protects you from poison.
 w - an uncursed ring of ice
 X - a ring of resist corrosion (right hand)
Wands
 c - a wand of flame (36/48)
 d - a wand of enslavement (15/24)
 e - a wand of random effects (31/48)
 f - a wand of heal wounds (9/9)
 h - a wand of disintegration (12/24)
 r - a wand of teleportation (4/9)
 t - a wand of paralysis (19/24) {god gift}
 y - a wand of confusion (13/48)
 B - a wand of slowing (27/48)
 E - a wand of polymorph (11/24)
 I - a wand of iceblast (8/15)
 M - a wand of hasting (4/9)
 P - a wand of acid (4/15)
 Q - a wand of lightning (0/15)
Scrolls
 n - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 o - 11 scrolls of remove curse
 F - 6 scrolls of blinking
 G - 7 scrolls of fear
 H - 6 scrolls of fog
 K - 7 scrolls of magic mapping
 T - a scroll of silence
 Z - 15 scrolls of identify
Potions
 k - 6 potions of curing
 x - 3 potions of haste
 D - 5 potions of might
 L - a potion of ambrosia
 O - 2 potions of resistance
 Y - a potion of magic
Miscellaneous
 A - a lamp of fire {god gift}
 N - a disc of storms
Comestibles
 g - 12 bread rations
 i - 13 meat rations
 z - 26 fruits


   Skills:
 + Level 13.1 Fighting
   Level 2.0(2.2) Short Blades
   Level 1.2(1.9) Long Blades
 * Level 20.5(20.8) Axes
 - Level 6.2(14.1) Maces & Flails
 + Level 3.1 Crossbows
 + Level 14.4 Armour
 + Level 9.7 Dodging
 - Level 3.0 Stealth
 + Level 15.7 Evocations


You have 6 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Shock                 Conj/Air       #...         100%        1    ##.....
b - Summon Butterflies    Summ           #.......     100%        1    ##.....
c - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       #.....       100%        2    ###....
d - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      #.......     100%        3    ####...
e - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  #.......     100%        3    ####...


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (14/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (6/6) D:8
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:3       Spider (4/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:11            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (1/5) D:14

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Pakellas
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:13 =   Orc:2 }([}

Annotations:
Lair:6 exclusion: 3 doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to damage.
You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy.
You resist negative energy. (rN+)
You passively map the area around you.
You do not regenerate naturally.


Message History

Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Evoke which item? (* ta show all) (? fer menu, 'sc ta quit)
Zappin': f - a wand o' heal wounds (9/9)
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - ye
Ye feel much better. 'tis wand has 8 charges left.
Evoke which item? (* ta show all) (? fer menu, 'sc ta quit)
Okay, than.
Unknown command.
Charge which item? (? fer menu, 'sc ta quit)
Yer wand o' heal wounds (8/9) glows fer a momn't an' now has 9 charges.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNIN' * * *
Okay, than.
Okay, than.
Save game an' 'sit?
Welcome back, Figem tha Deep Dwarf Artificer.
Pakellas says: 'tis be producin' some very interestin' results.
Press ? fer a list o' commands an' othar information.
Char dumped ta 'morgue/Figem.txt'.
Save game an' 'sit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Bai Suzhen (Swamp:3)
  A bone dragon (Swamp:4)
  Rupert (D:14)
  Frances (Swamp:2)
  Gastronok (Lair:1)
  3 thorn hunters
  2 orc warlords (Orc:2)
  An emperor scorpion (Spider:4)
  5 ghost moths (Spider:4)
  2 entropy weavers (Spider:3)
  The ghost of Figem the Cleaver, a journeyman DDAr of Pakellas (Orc:1)
  2 fire dragons
  An ogre mage (Vaults:1)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  7 hydras
  4 vault guards (D:14)
  3 ghost crabs
  5 centaur warriors
  A death knight (D:13)
  Erica (D:8)
  6 alligators
  A queen ant (Spider:4)
  Urug (Orc:1)
  4 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  4 unseen horrors
  2 swamp dragons
  3 hill giants (D:12)
  A necromancer (Spider:3)
  4 orc knights
  2 phantasmal warriors
  An oklob plant (Swamp:4)
  4 orc sorcerers (Orc:2)
  4 griffons
  3 deep elf magi
  5 hornets
  19 wolf spiders
  3 manticores
  14 orb spiders
  A salamander (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  10 ugly things
  A centaur zombie (D:10)
  A cyclops (D:14)
  2 black mambas (Lair:5)
  A moth of wrath (Spider:2)
  8 elephants
  A vault sentinel (Vaults:1)
  16 spiny frogs
  3 komodo dragons
  2 kobold demonologists (D:13)
  A torpor snail (Spider:2)
  6 swamp worm zombies (Swamp:4)
  3 gargoyles
  2 freezing wraiths (D:13)
  A tengu conjurer (D:13)
  A rime drake (Lair:5)
  An efreet (D:13)
  10 demonic crawlers
  4 hydra zombies (Swamp:4)
  39 jumping spiders
  3 meliai (Spider:1)
  A queen bee (Spider:1)
  12 two-headed ogres
  7 trolls
  Grinder (D:3)
  9 bog bodies
  9 giant leeches
  5 spectral swamp dragons (Swamp:4)
  3 boulder beetles
  8 slime creatures
  29 blink frogs
  A hornet zombie (D:14)
  2 alligator zombies (Swamp:4)
  Sigmund (D:3)
  38 tarantellas
  3 spriggans
  2 shadows
  39 yaks
  A vampire (D:10)
  60 redbacks
  A wraith (D:13)
  4 wyverns
  4 basilisks
  14 hippogriffs
  Grum (Lair:1)
  2 hungry ghosts
  A mottled dragon (D:14)
  10 vampire mosquitoes
  8 insubstantial wisps
  13 soldier ants (Spider:4)
  7 wargs
  A soldier ant (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  23 swamp worms
  Edmund (D:4)
  2 hell hounds (D:8)
  11 water moccasins
  7 porcupines
  49 orc warriors
  3 swamp dragon zombies (Swamp:4)
  6 swamp drakes
  20 ogres
  8 ice beasts
  3 sky beasts
  12 wasps
  3 black bears
  An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  3 necrophages
  9 phantoms
  18 wolves
  12 centaurs
  13 crocodiles
  20 giant frogs
  A big kobold (D:8)
  2 wyvern zombies
  A wyvern skeleton (D:7)
  5 scorpions
  22 killer bees
  3 wights (D:8)
  2 vampire bats (Lair:5)
  2 electric eels
  8 crimson imps
  A wasp zombie (D:12)
  7 jellies
  23 orc wizards
  6 centaur skeletons
  2 giant frog zombies
  13 hounds
  3 human zombies (Ossuary)
  34 orc priests
  3 giant frog skeletons
  9 iguanas
  2 spectral swamp drakes (Swamp:4)
  25 worker ants
  10 sheep
  3 hound zombies
  A hound skeleton (D:8)
  4 mummies (Ossuary)
  2 worker ant zombies
  6 gnolls
  20 adders
  32 river rats
  A swamp drake zombie (Swamp:4)
  10 shadow imps
  4 oozes
  4 adder zombies
  An adder skeleton (D:9)
  2 worms
  A dart slug (D:2)
  5 giant geckos
  141 orcs
  7 bats
  6 giant cockroaches
  2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary)
  11 goblins
  9 hobgoblins
  12 jackals
  21 kobolds
  7 quokkas
  15 ball pythons
  8 giant newts
  A jackal skeleton (D:5)
  3 jackal zombies (Ossuary)
  A kobold zombie (Ossuary)
  An orc zombie (Ossuary)
  A quokka skeleton (D:9)
  2 quokka zombies
  26 rats
  A butterfly (Lair:1)
  4 fungi
1322 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  2 emperor scorpions (Spider:4)
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  Nessos (Lair:4)
  A stone giant (Orc:2)
  3 orc knights
  A hornet (Spider:4)
  A centaur zombie (D:12)
  A spiny frog (Lair:5)
  3 blink frogs (Lair:5)
  5 orc warriors
  An ogre (Orc:1)
  An eye of draining (D:12)
  4 vampire bats (Lair:5)
  An orc wizard (Orc:1)
  An orc priest (Orc:2)
  9 orcs
  2 bats (Lair:5)
  A fungus (Lair:1)
39 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orb spider (Spider:4)
  A jumping spider (Spider:4)
  3 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:4)
  A wolf (Lair:6)
  A crocodile (Lair:6)
  A bush (Lair:3)
  14 fungi
  3 plants
25 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1386 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3
   198 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5
   383 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
   388 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   581 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6
   766 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  1144 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  1144 | D:2      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  1145 | D:2      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  1221 | D:2      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  1650 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7
  1774 | D:3      | Noticed Sigmund
  1885 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8
  2134 | D:3      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  2134 | D:3      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  2137 | D:3      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  2543 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2547 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
  2560 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  2560 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8
  3010 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3017 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3305 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3322 | D:4      | Killed Edmund
  3322 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
  3322 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Axes
  3322 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9
  3471 | D:4      | Reached skill level 2 in Axes
  3759 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3772 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
  3922 | D:5      | Reached skill level 3 in Axes
  3948 | D:5      | Found a glowing drain.
  3969 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  4248 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  4355 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10
  4472 | D:5      | Reached skill level 4 in Axes
  4662 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  4955 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  4962 | D:6      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  4969 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth]
  4969 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11
  5175 | D:6      | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas.
  5200 | D:6      | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive
  5254 | D:6      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  5309 | Ossuary  | Entered an ossuary
  5382 | Ossuary  | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  5857 | D:7      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  6140 | D:7      | Reached * piety under Pakellas
  6140 | D:7      | Received a gift from Pakellas
  6233 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  6439 | D:7      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  6941 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  6941 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/90 MP: 13/13
  6999 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Pakellas
  6999 | D:8      | Received a gift from Pakellas
  7314 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7347 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  7349 | Lair:1   | Noticed Gastronok
  7386 | Lair:1   | Killed Gastronok
  7386 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  7410 | Lair:1   | Noticed Grum
  7430 | Lair:1   | Killed Grum
  7520 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  7850 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
  7863 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
  7901 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/99 MP: 1/15
  8822 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 11 in Axes
  8898 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
  9422 | Lair:3   | Identified the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
  9457 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
  9482 | Lair:3   | Killed a four-headed hydra
  9895 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 12 in Axes
  9904 | Lair:3   | Got a twisted ring mail
  9915 | Lair:3   | Identified the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 10101 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
 10128 | D:8      | Killed Erica
 10128 | D:8      | Reached XP level 12. HP: 61/110 MP: 5/17
 10511 | D:9      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
 11049 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 12321 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 12372 | D:11     | Reached skill level 13 in Axes
 12968 | D:12     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 12969 | D:12     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 12983 | D:12     | Killed a centaur warrior
 13013 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 13216 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 13230 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 13230 | Lab      | Reached skill level 14 in Axes
 13237 | Lab      | Identified the cursed +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 13252 | Lab      | Got a fine chain mail
 13259 | Lab      | Identified Neboaw's Papyrus of the Bard (You found it in a labyrinth)
 13266 | Lab      | Learned a level 1 spell: Shock
 13268 | Lab      | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
 13271 | Lab      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
 13275 | Lab      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
 13279 | Lab      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
 13291 | Lab      | Identified the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 13448 | D:12     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 90/120 MP: 17/17
 13495 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 13591 | D:12     | Identified a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 14589 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 14689 | D:14     | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
 14740 | D:14     | Noticed Rupert
 15043 | Lair:3   | Identified a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 15750 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 16142 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 16381 | Lair:4   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 16700 | Lair:4   | Noticed Nessos
 16765 | Lair:4   | Killed Nessos
 17382 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
 17498 | Lair:5   | Gained mutation: You resist negative energy. (rN+) [Deep Dwarf growth]
 17498 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 93/130 MP: 1/19
 18189 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 18484 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 18657 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 19395 | D:10     | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors!
 19395 | D:13     | Found Lyuziqaso's Jewellery Boutique.
 19465 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 19687 | Orc:1    | Noticed Figem's ghost (journeyman DDAr)
 19765 | D:11     | Reached skill level 16 in Axes
 19929 | Orc:1    | Killed Figem's ghost
 20225 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 20464 | Orc:2    | Noticed a stone giant
 20474 | Orc:2    | Killed a stone giant
 20474 | Orc:2    | Reached *** piety under Pakellas
 20474 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Pakellas
 20729 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 20734 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 21250 | Orc:2    | Found Feodos's Weapon Emporium.
 21282 | Orc:2    | Found Ufedestro's Gadget Shoppe.
 21301 | Orc:2    | Bought a wand of teleportation (4/9) for 384 gold pieces
 21319 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 21352 | Orc:2    | Bought a +0 bardiche for 108 gold pieces
 21352 | Orc:2    | Bought the cursed +2 dire flail "Curefrucw" {freeze, +Fly rPois Str+4 SInv} for 481 gold pieces
 21614 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 21658 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 22115 | Orc:2    | Found Hygoes's Antique Armour Boutique.
 22183 | Orc:2    | Found Jeamaq's Gadget Emporium.
 22279 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 22698 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 23116 | Orc:1    | Noticed Urug
 23186 | Orc:1    | Noticed an orc warlord
 23347 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 23567 | D:13     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 92/140 MP: 2/21
 24561 | D:13     | Bought the ring of Cowardice {rPois Str+4} for 573 gold pieces
 24902 | Orc:2    | Bought a wand of disintegration (13/24) for 272 gold pieces
 24940 | Orc:1    | Killed Urug
 25507 | D:14     | Killed Rupert
 25507 | D:14     | Reached skill level 17 in Axes
 26814 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 27552 | Orc:2    | Bought a pair of boots for 81 gold pieces
 28308 | Swamp:1  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 28321 | Swamp:1  | Killed a thorn hunter
 28604 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Frances
 28864 | Swamp:2  | Killed Frances
 30149 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
 30156 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
 30158 | D:3      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 30342 | D:3      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 30447 | D:3      | Killed Sigmund
 31077 | Swamp:3  | Reached skill level 18 in Axes
 31418 | Swamp:3  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 31442 | Swamp:3  | Killed a thorn hunter
 31442 | Swamp:3  | Reached XP level 16. HP: 70/152 MP: 1/22
 31480 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 31702 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 31712 | Swamp:4  | Killed a thorn hunter
 31857 | Swamp:4  | Noticed Bai Suzhen
 32019 | Swamp:3  | Killed Bai Suzhen
 33711 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a bone dragon
 33908 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 34328 | Swamp:4  | Killed a bone dragon
 34568 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 36619 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Axes
 37075 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Crossbows
 38374 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Evocations
 38908 | Spider:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Spider Nest
 38913 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 162/162 MP: 1/24
 39466 | Spider:4 | Reached **** piety under Pakellas
 39466 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Pakellas
 39636 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 20 in Axes
 40262 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 41002 | Spider:4 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------+-----
Short Blades   |     1        2                                     |  2.0
Fighting       |     1           2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 | 13.1
Armour         |        1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9    11 12 13 14    | 14.4
Dodging        |        3     4        5           7  8     9       |  9.7
Evocations     |              5        6  7  9 10 11 12 13 14 15    | 15.7
Stealth        |                 2                 3                |  3.0
Long Blades    |                 1                                  |  1.2
Axes           |                 1  3  5  8 10 12 14 15 16 18 19 20 | 20.5
Maces & Flails |                    1  3  4           5     6       |  6.2
Crossbows      |                                               2  3 |  3.1

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |   245 |    56 |       |       |       |       ||   301
       Long sword        |       |    59 |       |       |       |       ||    59
       Broad axe         |       |    95 |   516 |   425 |       |       ||  1036
       Dire flail        |       |       |    45 |    34 |   206 |    95 ||   380
       Battleaxe         |       |       |       |   455 |  1473 |  1118 ||  3046
       Great sword       |       |       |       |    11 |       |       ||    11
       Great mace        |       |       |       |       |   129 |       ||   129
       Hand crossbow     |       |       |       |       |       |    13 ||    13
 Fire: Hand crossbow     |       |       |       |       |       |   105 ||   105
Throw: Throwing net      |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Invok: Quick Charge      |       |       |     1 |    64 |   128 |    95 ||   288
       Device Surge      |       |       |       |       |     3 |       ||     3
 Abil: Device Recharging |       |     1 |     1 |     2 |       |       ||     4
       Evoke Flight      |       |       |     3 |     1 |     3 |       ||     7
       Stop Flying       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |     3 |    17 |    31 |    95 |   152 |   127 ||   425
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |    75 |     6 ||    81
       Disc of storms    |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     6 |     1 |     5 |    26 |    19 |     9 ||    66
       Potion            |       |       |     2 |     7 |     2 |     2 ||    13
 Stab: Confused          |       |     1 |       |       |     1 |       ||     2
       Sleeping          |       |       |       |     3 |       |       ||     3
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 |     5 |       ||     6
       Held in net/web   |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     4 |     7 |    19 |    63 |    17 ||   113
       Bread ration      |       |       |     2 |     1 |     2 |     5 ||    10
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |     3 |     1 |       ||     4
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
Armor: Ring mail         |    98 |    44 |       |   141 |       |       ||   283
       Plate armour      |       |    62 |   569 |   381 |   725 |   975 ||  2712
       Chain mail        |       |       |       |    23 |   533 |   345 ||   901
Dodge: Dodged            |   148 |   113 |   315 |   569 |  1092 |  1084 ||  3321
Block: Other             |       |    24 |   109 |   150 |   264 |   201 ||   748
       Reflection        |       |       |     1 |     3 |     7 |       ||    11
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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 16:46

Re: Trying to win a DD

You kill boris by buffing up and meleeing him a lot. Use rod of shadows.

Stop training crossbows(don't use them at all on this character), stop training axes(you don't need more than 20 skill), you have plenty of evo, just train fighting/armor/dodging for now.

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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 17:01

Re: Trying to win a DD

Cleared V:1-4. (DON'T GO TO V:5!)

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file.

Figem the Executioner (Deep Dwarf Artificer)       Turns: 49374, Time: 03:25:56

Health: 157/183    AC: 31    Str: 23    XL:     19   Next: 82%
Magic:  6/27       EV: 13    Int: 13    God:    Pakellas [**....]
Gold:   600        SH:  0    Dex: 21    Spells: 5 memorised, 8 levels left

rFire  + + +      SeeInvis .    i - +1 battleaxe (drain)
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    m - +6 plate armour {rF+}
rNeg   + . .      Faith    +    (shield currently unavailable)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    s - +2 helmet
rElec  +          Dismiss  .    S - +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2}
rCorr  .          Reflect  .    l - +0 pair of gloves
SustAt .          Harm     .    V - +1 pair of boots
MR     ++...                    Y - amulet of faith
Stlth  ..........               q - +6 ring of dexterity
                                v - ring of Cowardice {rPois Str+4}

@: non-regenerating, drained, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely
unstealthy
A: damage resistance, recharge devices, negative energy resistance 1, sense
surroundings 3, slow regeneration 3
a: Device Recharging, Quick Charge, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You are on level 4 of the Vaults.
You worship Pakellas.
Pakellas is pleased with you.
You are very hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 35 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer and Ossuary.

You have collected 3675 gold pieces.
You have spent 3075 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +4 battleaxe of freezing
 b - a +1 arbalest of freezing
 i - a +1 battleaxe of draining (weapon)
 C - the +2 dire flail "Curefrucw" {freeze, +Fly rPois Str+4 SInv}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
   susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It protects you from poison.
   It lets you see invisible.
   It lets you fly.
 L - the +2 broad axe "Onyrph" {holy, +Fly}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead
   and demons.
   
   It lets you fly.
Missiles
 c - 975 bolts
Armour
 j - the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (-4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 l - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 m - a +6 plate armour of fire resistance (worn)
 s - a +2 helmet (worn)
 S - the +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo (worn) {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (-2).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 T - the +6 plate armour of Day {rC+ MR+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 1 of the Vaults)   
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 V - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
Rods
 U - a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
 W - a +5 rod of shadows (13/13)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
Jewellery
 p - an uncursed ring of flight
 q - a +6 ring of dexterity (right hand)
 u - a +3 amulet of reflection
 v - the ring of Cowardice (left hand) {rPois Str+4}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 13 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of strength]
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It protects you from poison.
 w - an uncursed ring of ice
 J - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 X - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 Y - an amulet of faith (around neck)
Wands
 d - a wand of enslavement (15/24)
 e - a wand of random effects (31/48)
 f - a wand of heal wounds (7/9)
 h - a wand of disintegration (12/24)
 r - a wand of teleportation (3/9)
 t - a wand of paralysis (19/24) {god gift}
 y - a wand of confusion (13/48)
 B - a wand of slowing (27/48)
 E - a wand of polymorph (11/24)
 I - a wand of iceblast (8/15)
 M - a wand of hasting (4/9)
 P - a wand of acid (0/15)
 Q - a wand of lightning (0/15)
Scrolls
 n - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 o - 13 scrolls of remove curse
 F - 8 scrolls of blinking
 G - 8 scrolls of fear
 H - 6 scrolls of fog
 K - 10 scrolls of magic mapping
 Z - 21 scrolls of identify
Potions
 k - 7 potions of curing
 x - 3 potions of haste
 D - 5 potions of might
 O - 2 potions of resistance
 R - 2 potions of invisibility
Miscellaneous
 A - a lamp of fire {god gift}
 N - a disc of storms
Comestibles
 g - 14 bread rations
 z - 28 fruits


   Skills:
 + Level 14.6(13.6) Fighting
   Level 2.0(1.4) Short Blades
   Level 1.2 Long Blades
 * Level 23.8(22.8) Axes
 - Level 6.2(15.1) Maces & Flails
 + Level 3.1(2.4) Crossbows
 + Level 15.1(14.1) Armour
 + Level 10.0(9.0) Dodging
 - Level 3.0(2.2) Stealth
 + Level 17.1(16.0) Evocations


You have 8 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Shock                 Conj/Air       #...         100%        1    ##.....
b - Summon Butterflies    Summ           #.......     100%        1    ##.....
c - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       #.....       100%        2    ###....
d - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      #.......     100%        3    ####...
e - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  #.......     100%        3    ####...


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (14/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (6/6) D:8
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:3       Spider (4/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:11            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (4/5) D:14
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Pakellas
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:13 =   Orc:2 }([}   Vaults:1 [   Vaults:3 ([?(

Portals:
Trove: Vaults:2 (give +3 storm dragon armour)

Annotations:
Lair:6 exclusion: 3 doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to damage.
You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy.
You resist negative energy. (rN+)
You passively map a large area around you.
You do not regenerate naturally.


Message History

a long sword; a rin' mail
Ye see 'ere an arbalest.
Ye be feelin' very hungry.
Ye see 'ere an uncursed arbalest.
Thar be an op'n door 'ere.
Thar be an op'n door 'ere.
Thar be an op'n door 'ere.
Thar be an op'n door 'ere.
Ye see 'ere an arrow.
Ye see 'ere an arrow.
Thin's tha be 'ere:
a great mace; a dire flail
Done 'splorin'.
Done 'splorin'.
Move tha cursor ta view tha level map, or type ? fer a list o' commands.
Returnin' ta tha game...
Save game an' 'sit?
Welcome back, Figem tha Deep Dwarf Artificer.
Pakellas says: 'tis be producin' some very interestin' results.
Press ? fer a list o' commands an' othar information.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Bai Suzhen (Swamp:3)
  A bone dragon (Swamp:4)
  A lich (Vaults:4)
  Rupert (D:14)
  Frances (Swamp:2)
  Gastronok (Lair:1)
  3 thorn hunters
  A revenant (Vaults:3)
  4 tengu reavers
  3 fire giants
  A deep elf sorcerer (Vaults:3)
  2 orc warlords (Orc:2)
  10 vault wardens
  An emperor scorpion (Spider:4)
  5 ghost moths (Spider:4)
  A ghoul (Vaults:3)
  4 ironheart preservers
  4 entropy weavers
  A war gargoyle (Vaults:1)
  A deep elf demonologist (Vaults:3)
  9 stone giants
  The ghost of Figem the Cleaver, a journeyman DDAr of Pakellas (Orc:1)
  2 deep elf death magi (Vaults:3)
  4 ettins
  A minotaur (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  5 fire dragons
  8 ogre magi
  A minotaur (Lab)
  7 yaktaur captains
  7 hydras
  4 vault guards (D:14)
  2 rakshasas
  3 great orbs of eyes
  3 ghost crabs
  3 ice dragons
  9 centaur warriors
  3 death knights
  3 deep troll shamans (Vaults:2)
  Erica (D:8)
  6 alligators
  A queen ant (Spider:4)
  Urug (Orc:1)
  A deep elf knight (Vaults:1)
  4 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  5 unseen horrors
  A skeletal warrior (Vaults:1)
  6 hell knights (Vaults:4)
  4 wizards
  A giant orange brain (Vaults:4)
  2 deep trolls (Vaults:2)
  2 swamp dragons
  3 hill giants (D:12)
  10 ironbrand convokers
  4 necromancers
  14 orc knights
  4 phantasmal warriors
  2 flayed ghosts
  An oklob plant (Swamp:4)
  7 orc sorcerers
  10 griffons
  8 deep elf magi
  7 hornets
  25 wolf spiders
  3 manticores
  14 orb spiders
  A salamander (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  30 ugly things
  A centaur zombie (D:10)
  2 cyclopes
  2 black mambas (Lair:5)
  A moth of wrath (Spider:2)
  8 elephants
  An elephant (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  11 vault sentinels
  16 spiny frogs
  3 komodo dragons
  2 kobold demonologists (D:13)
  A torpor snail (Spider:2)
  6 swamp worm zombies (Swamp:4)
  3 gargoyles
  30 yaktaurs
  10 freezing wraiths
  A tengu conjurer (D:13)
  A rime drake (Lair:5)
  An efreet (D:13)
  10 demonic crawlers
  4 hydra zombies (Swamp:4)
  39 jumping spiders
  3 meliai (Spider:1)
  A queen bee (Spider:1)
  18 two-headed ogres
  7 trolls
  Grinder (D:3)
  9 bog bodies
  9 giant leeches
  5 spectral swamp dragons (Swamp:4)
  8 boulder beetles
  A two-headed ogre (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  20 slime creatures
  29 blink frogs
  A hornet zombie (D:14)
  2 alligator zombies (Swamp:4)
  Sigmund (D:3)
  38 tarantellas
  3 spriggans
  2 shadows
  39 yaks
  A vampire (D:10)
  62 redbacks
  2 wraiths
  4 wyverns
  4 basilisks
  14 hippogriffs
  Grum (Lair:1)
  2 hungry ghosts
  A mottled dragon (D:14)
  10 vampire mosquitoes
  8 insubstantial wisps
  13 soldier ants (Spider:4)
  8 wargs
  A soldier ant (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  23 swamp worms
  Edmund (D:4)
  2 hell hounds (D:8)
  11 water moccasins
  7 porcupines
  60 orc warriors
  3 swamp dragon zombies (Swamp:4)
  6 swamp drakes
  33 ogres
  8 ice beasts
  3 sky beasts
  12 wasps
  3 black bears
  An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  3 necrophages
  9 phantoms
  5 boggarts (Vaults:3)
  18 wolves
  16 centaurs
  13 crocodiles
  20 giant frogs
  A big kobold (D:8)
  2 wyvern zombies
  A wyvern skeleton (D:7)
  5 scorpions
  22 killer bees
  3 wights (D:8)
  2 vampire bats (Lair:5)
  2 electric eels
  8 crimson imps
  A human simulacrum (Vaults:3)
  A wasp zombie (D:12)
  7 jellies
  28 orc wizards
  6 centaur skeletons
  2 giant frog zombies
  13 hounds
  3 human zombies (Ossuary)
  36 orc priests
  3 giant frog skeletons
  9 iguanas
  2 spectral swamp drakes (Swamp:4)
  25 worker ants
  10 sheep
  3 hound zombies
  A hound skeleton (D:8)
  4 mummies (Ossuary)
  2 worker ant zombies
  6 gnolls
  20 adders
  32 river rats
  A swamp drake zombie (Swamp:4)
  10 shadow imps
  4 oozes
  4 adder zombies
  An adder skeleton (D:9)
  2 worms
  A dart slug (D:2)
  5 giant geckos
  154 orcs
  7 bats
  6 giant cockroaches
  2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary)
  11 goblins
  9 hobgoblins
  12 jackals
  21 kobolds
  7 quokkas
  15 ball pythons
  8 giant newts
  A jackal skeleton (D:5)
  3 jackal zombies (Ossuary)
  A kobold zombie (Ossuary)
  An orc zombie (Ossuary)
  A quokka skeleton (D:9)
  2 quokka zombies
  26 rats
  A butterfly (Lair:1)
  4 fungi
1618 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  2 emperor scorpions (Spider:4)
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  Nessos (Lair:4)
  A stone giant (Orc:2)
  A death knight (Vaults:3)
  3 orc knights
  A hornet (Spider:4)
  A centaur zombie (D:12)
  A spiny frog (Lair:5)
  3 blink frogs (Lair:5)
  5 orc warriors
  An ogre (Orc:1)
  An eye of draining (D:12)
  4 vampire bats (Lair:5)
  An orc wizard (Orc:1)
  An orc priest (Orc:2)
  9 orcs
  2 bats (Lair:5)
  A fungus (Lair:1)
40 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An unseen horror (Vaults:1)
  An orb spider (Spider:4)
  A jumping spider (Spider:4)
  3 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:4)
  A centaur (Vaults:4)
  A wolf (Lair:6)
  A crocodile (Lair:6)
  A bush (Lair:3)
  14 fungi
  3 plants
27 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1685 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3
   198 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5
   383 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
   388 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   581 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6
   766 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  1144 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  1144 | D:2      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  1145 | D:2      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  1221 | D:2      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  1650 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7
  1774 | D:3      | Noticed Sigmund
  1885 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8
  2134 | D:3      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  2134 | D:3      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  2137 | D:3      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  2543 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2547 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
  2560 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  2560 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8
  3010 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3017 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3305 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3322 | D:4      | Killed Edmund
  3322 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
  3322 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Axes
  3322 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9
  3471 | D:4      | Reached skill level 2 in Axes
  3759 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3772 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
  3922 | D:5      | Reached skill level 3 in Axes
  3948 | D:5      | Found a glowing drain.
  3969 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  4248 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  4355 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10
  4472 | D:5      | Reached skill level 4 in Axes
  4662 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  4955 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  4962 | D:6      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  4969 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth]
  4969 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11
  5175 | D:6      | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas.
  5200 | D:6      | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive
  5254 | D:6      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  5309 | Ossuary  | Entered an ossuary
  5382 | Ossuary  | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  5857 | D:7      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  6140 | D:7      | Reached * piety under Pakellas
  6140 | D:7      | Received a gift from Pakellas
  6233 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  6439 | D:7      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  6941 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  6941 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/90 MP: 13/13
  6999 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Pakellas
  6999 | D:8      | Received a gift from Pakellas
  7314 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7347 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  7349 | Lair:1   | Noticed Gastronok
  7386 | Lair:1   | Killed Gastronok
  7386 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  7410 | Lair:1   | Noticed Grum
  7430 | Lair:1   | Killed Grum
  7520 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  7850 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
  7863 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
  7901 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/99 MP: 1/15
  8822 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 11 in Axes
  8898 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
  9422 | Lair:3   | Identified the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
  9457 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
  9482 | Lair:3   | Killed a four-headed hydra
  9895 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 12 in Axes
  9904 | Lair:3   | Got a twisted ring mail
  9915 | Lair:3   | Identified the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 10101 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
 10128 | D:8      | Killed Erica
 10128 | D:8      | Reached XP level 12. HP: 61/110 MP: 5/17
 10511 | D:9      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
 11049 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 12321 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 12372 | D:11     | Reached skill level 13 in Axes
 12968 | D:12     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 12969 | D:12     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 12983 | D:12     | Killed a centaur warrior
 13013 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 13216 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 13230 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 13230 | Lab      | Reached skill level 14 in Axes
 13237 | Lab      | Identified the cursed +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 13252 | Lab      | Got a fine chain mail
 13259 | Lab      | Identified Neboaw's Papyrus of the Bard (You found it in a labyrinth)
 13266 | Lab      | Learned a level 1 spell: Shock
 13268 | Lab      | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
 13271 | Lab      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
 13275 | Lab      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
 13279 | Lab      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
 13291 | Lab      | Identified the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 13448 | D:12     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 90/120 MP: 17/17
 13495 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 13591 | D:12     | Identified a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 14589 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 14689 | D:14     | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
 14740 | D:14     | Noticed Rupert
 15043 | Lair:3   | Identified a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 15750 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 16142 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 16381 | Lair:4   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 16700 | Lair:4   | Noticed Nessos
 16765 | Lair:4   | Killed Nessos
 17382 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
 17498 | Lair:5   | Gained mutation: You resist negative energy. (rN+) [Deep Dwarf growth]
 17498 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 93/130 MP: 1/19
 18189 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 18484 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 18657 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 19395 | D:10     | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors!
 19395 | D:13     | Found Lyuziqaso's Jewellery Boutique.
 19465 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 19687 | Orc:1    | Noticed Figem's ghost (journeyman DDAr)
 19765 | D:11     | Reached skill level 16 in Axes
 19929 | Orc:1    | Killed Figem's ghost
 20225 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 20464 | Orc:2    | Noticed a stone giant
 20474 | Orc:2    | Killed a stone giant
 20474 | Orc:2    | Reached *** piety under Pakellas
 20474 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Pakellas
 20729 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 20734 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 21250 | Orc:2    | Found Feodos's Weapon Emporium.
 21282 | Orc:2    | Found Ufedestro's Gadget Shoppe.
 21301 | Orc:2    | Bought a wand of teleportation (4/9) for 384 gold pieces
 21319 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 21352 | Orc:2    | Bought a +0 bardiche for 108 gold pieces
 21352 | Orc:2    | Bought the cursed +2 dire flail "Curefrucw" {freeze, +Fly rPois Str+4 SInv} for 481 gold pieces
 21614 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 21658 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 22115 | Orc:2    | Found Hygoes's Antique Armour Boutique.
 22183 | Orc:2    | Found Jeamaq's Gadget Emporium.
 22279 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 22698 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 23116 | Orc:1    | Noticed Urug
 23186 | Orc:1    | Noticed an orc warlord
 23347 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 23567 | D:13     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 92/140 MP: 2/21
 24561 | D:13     | Bought the ring of Cowardice {rPois Str+4} for 573 gold pieces
 24902 | Orc:2    | Bought a wand of disintegration (13/24) for 272 gold pieces
 24940 | Orc:1    | Killed Urug
 25507 | D:14     | Killed Rupert
 25507 | D:14     | Reached skill level 17 in Axes
 26814 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 27552 | Orc:2    | Bought a pair of boots for 81 gold pieces
 28308 | Swamp:1  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 28321 | Swamp:1  | Killed a thorn hunter
 28604 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Frances
 28864 | Swamp:2  | Killed Frances
 30149 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
 30156 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
 30158 | D:3      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 30342 | D:3      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 30447 | D:3      | Killed Sigmund
 31077 | Swamp:3  | Reached skill level 18 in Axes
 31418 | Swamp:3  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 31442 | Swamp:3  | Killed a thorn hunter
 31442 | Swamp:3  | Reached XP level 16. HP: 70/152 MP: 1/22
 31480 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 31702 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 31712 | Swamp:4  | Killed a thorn hunter
 31857 | Swamp:4  | Noticed Bai Suzhen
 32019 | Swamp:3  | Killed Bai Suzhen
 33711 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a bone dragon
 33908 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 34328 | Swamp:4  | Killed a bone dragon
 34568 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 36619 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Axes
 37075 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Crossbows
 38374 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Evocations
 38908 | Spider:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Spider Nest
 38913 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 162/162 MP: 1/24
 39466 | Spider:4 | Reached **** piety under Pakellas
 39466 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Pakellas
 39636 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 20 in Axes
 40262 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 41002 | Spider:4 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 43038 | Vaults:1 | Gained mutation: You passively map a large area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth]
 43038 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 88/171 MP: 7/25
 43038 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 21 in Axes
 43118 | Vaults:1 | Found Itziypp's Antique Armour Emporium.
 43176 | Vaults:1 | Bought a faintly humming plate armour for 756 gold pieces
 43188 | Vaults:1 | Identified the +6 plate armour of Day {rC+ MR+} (You bought it in a shop on level 1 of the Vaults)
 44249 | Vaults:2 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 45144 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 22 in Axes
 45521 | Vaults:3 | Found Pecsoso's Weapon Boutique.
 45700 | Vaults:3 | Found Jufy's Armour Boutique.
 45734 | Vaults:3 | Bought the +2 broad axe "Onyrph" {holy, +Fly} for 420 gold pieces
 45863 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 46045 | Vaults:3 | Found Hunkaav's Magic Scroll Boutique.
 46175 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 94/182 MP: 3/27
 46416 | Vaults:3 | Found Voexal's Weapon Boutique.
 46682 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 47110 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 23 in Axes
 48035 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----
Short Blades   |     1        2                                           |  2.0
Fighting       |     1           2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14    | 14.6
Armour         |        1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9    11 12 13 14       15 | 15.1
Dodging        |        3     4        5           7  8     9          10 | 10.0
Evocations     |              5        6  7  9 10 11 12 13 14 15    16 17 | 17.1
Stealth        |                 2                 3                      |  3.0
Long Blades    |                 1                                        |  1.2
Axes           |                 1  3  5  8 10 12 14 15 16 18 19 20 22 23 | 23.8
Maces & Flails |                    1  3  4           5     6             |  6.2
Crossbows      |                                               2  3       |  3.1

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |   245 |    56 |       |       |       |       |       ||   301
       Long sword        |       |    59 |       |       |       |       |       ||    59
       Broad axe         |       |    95 |   516 |   425 |       |       |    43 ||  1079
       Dire flail        |       |       |    45 |    34 |   206 |   103 |       ||   388
       Battleaxe         |       |       |       |   455 |  1473 |  1788 |   443 ||  4159
       Great sword       |       |       |       |    11 |       |       |       ||    11
       Great mace        |       |       |       |       |   129 |       |       ||   129
       Hand crossbow     |       |       |       |       |       |    13 |       ||    13
 Fire: Hand crossbow     |       |       |       |       |       |   105 |       ||   105
       Arbalest          |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
Throw: Throwing net      |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       ||     2
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
Invok: Quick Charge      |       |       |     1 |    64 |   128 |   140 |    54 ||   387
       Device Surge      |       |       |       |       |     3 |       |       ||     3
 Abil: Device Recharging |       |     1 |     1 |     2 |       |       |       ||     4
       Evoke Flight      |       |       |     3 |     1 |     3 |       |       ||     7
       Stop Flying       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |     3 |    17 |    31 |    95 |   152 |   184 |    65 ||   547
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |    75 |     6 |     2 ||    83
       Disc of storms    |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     6 |     1 |     5 |    26 |    19 |    11 |     2 ||    70
       Potion            |       |       |     2 |     7 |     2 |     2 |     2 ||    15
 Stab: Confused          |       |     1 |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     2
       Sleeping          |       |       |       |     3 |       |       |       ||     3
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 |     5 |       |       ||     6
       Held in net/web   |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     4 |     7 |    19 |    63 |    30 |    10 ||   136
       Bread ration      |       |       |     2 |     1 |     2 |     5 |       ||    10
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |     3 |     1 |       |       ||     4
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       ||     2
Armor: Ring mail         |    98 |    44 |       |   141 |       |       |       ||   283
       Plate armour      |       |    62 |   569 |   381 |   725 |  1337 |   266 ||  3340
       Chain mail        |       |       |       |    23 |   533 |   345 |       ||   901
       Skin              |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Dodge: Dodged            |   148 |   113 |   315 |   569 |  1092 |  1371 |   258 ||  3866
Block: Other             |       |    24 |   109 |   150 |   264 |   264 |    53 ||   864
       Reflection        |       |       |     1 |     3 |     7 |     7 |    12 ||    30


I'm thinking clear D:15, go to Depths, right?
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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 17:04

Re: Trying to win a DD

jwoodward48ss wrote:Died to Boris... How the hell do I kill him?

jwoodward48ss wrote:
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 T - a scroll of silence

Preferably lure him to a safe place before silencing though.
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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 17:13

Re: Trying to win a DD

...what do you mean? I realize that this is "less of a win," but winning via a few savescums takes more skill than winning via wizard mode. Therefore, I'm going to experiment with different ways to live, and try not to die. The "permadeath" aspect of roguelikes is good, but I really don't feel like playing through the early game again. I _know_ how to not die during early D and Lair, why would I practice surviving Depths by doing early D? Once I've gotten the hang of winning with savescumming, I'll try to do it without savescumming.

Here's my plan for learning DCSS:

1. Figure out the basics. Moving around, walking, what are "rods" and "staffs," etc. (Check.)
2. Play. (Check. I usually die after Lair.)
3. Play around in wizard mode to see more of the game, to see the best way of killing things, etc. (Check.)
4. Play around with savescumming, try to win. (In progress.)
5. Play and win (without savescumming).

I'm starting with zero skill here. If I didn't use savescumming, I'd rarely be able to practice surviving in Depths, and I'd probably quit the game. Playing D and Lair a few thousand times gets really boring. Once I'm capable of surviving Lair, I'm practicing surviving in S, V, Depths, Crypt, etc.

Also, once I've cleared Depths, would it make sense to dip into Crypt? I have a holy broad axe, as well as innate rN+.

Edit: A good example of the learning experience you can get through savescumming:

So I found Boris and died to him. My last save was before I entered Boris's level, so he wasn't around when the level got created. But imagine that I saved as soon as I saw him.

I could try to kill him with axes and summons, and die. I now have two options: savescum, or make a new character.

If I make a new character, I might never see Boris. Either he doesn't appear, or (as is very likely) I die before Vaults:4. I don't have many more chances of learning how to kill him.

But if I savescum! Then I can experiment to my heart's content. Does this work? Does this? How about this? Then I can either continue the learning experience or... start over again. The former seems to be the no-brainer option. (I'm not fooling myself, I'm not going to win the first time I enter Zot. This gives me a chance to see Zot, figure out how it works, learn the relative dangers of each monster, etc.)

I know that this won't count as a "technical win," but that'll follow once I'm capable of winning via savescum.
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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 18:12

Re: Trying to win a DD

When I first started playing, I 'backed up' a character prior to zot, and ended up dying, partially because I was playing a little carelessly knowing I had a backup. But I didn't actually restore it, because I realized DCSS isn't any fun if a win is guaranteed, the permadeath is a very big part of the fun, at least for me.

But, it's a single player game. Do whatever you like!

Boris generally isn't terribly tricky, and brute strength is a decent approach to killing him. He can do a lot of damage with his conjurations. A scroll of silence is the perfect solution to liches, boris included. They're pretty helpless without their spells. Summoning a bunch of stuff then whacking him with the axe would also be reasonable.

I wouldn't bother going into crypt, generally there's no reason to go out looking for extra XP, you'll get enough playing normally.

So after depths, I'd think your character is probably best suited to doing vaults 5.

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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 18:24

Re: Trying to win a DD

Ah. I guess it depends on how you use the backup. Since I back up _after_ entering a level, I have to clear the level. I don't get to roll a new one. No matter what, I have to get past the level _somehow_. This means that if I play recklessly, I'll just have to restart until I'm not reckless.

I forgot to backup before I met Boris, so I don't have another chance to fight him, but if I was scumming like normal, I would have had to run away or kill him, somehow. All scumming does is let me try different ways to succeed.
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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 18:31

Re: Trying to win a DD

Hey, do whatever floats your boat. I think you'll find if you win without any backups you'll find the eventual win much more satisfying, but it's not like winning a save scummed game is going to ruin crawl for you... And like you say, it's better than playing in wiz mode.

I guess you probably won't even see boris again, but maybe he'll generate.

I noticed in your last dump you were using a +1 battleaxe of drain. Prior to that you had a +5 battleaxe without a brand. Have you found any scrolls of branding yet? It usually makes sense to just keep enchanting the best battleaxe you found, then brand it when you find a scroll, unless you find a branded one that's close to your old one. Of course, you can use the +1 battleaxe of draining in the meantime, but I wouldn't recommend using EW scrolls on it.

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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 19:04

Re: Trying to win a DD

Save is dumb in crawl because no matter what you can't lose, saving in crawl is completely different from other games because in other games you are expected to die a few times in every level where as in crawl most levels you don't die. Just my opinion you can play how you want

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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 20:04

Re: Trying to win a DD

Umm...

What do you mean? In other games, when you die, you keep the progress. In savescummed DCSS, dying is restarting. There's a pretty big difference. And I'm not playing this DDAr for any reason but a learning experience. Save scumming just means I cut out the hours of play I'd have to put into getting every new char past L.
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Post Thursday, 21st July 2016, 06:36

Re: Trying to win a DD

You learn more from not doing that, if you can't get past early dungeons ( hardest part of the game ) confidently with an easy character unless it was a unavoidable death then you aren't learning how to play the game
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Post Thursday, 21st July 2016, 07:12

Re: Trying to win a DD

For what it's worth, there's a mode in crawl (explore more, access it with +) which doesn't let your character die, but doesn't have any of the debuggery associated with wizmode. Try that out.
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Post Thursday, 21st July 2016, 12:19

Re: Trying to win a DD

If he's having fun playing the game that way, then he's playing it right. This isn't a training simulator for an eventual dungeon crawl we have to take in real life you know. And he seems to be picking up knowledge of the game a pretty good clip...

If it makes you feel better, pretend he's playing a homemade Deep dwarf/felid hybrid, so he gets extra lives.

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Post Thursday, 21st July 2016, 14:48

Re: Trying to win a DD

dowan wrote:This isn't a training simulator for an eventual dungeon crawl we have to take in real life you know.
Maybe not for you

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Post Thursday, 21st July 2016, 15:34

Re: Trying to win a DD

Saves aside, the other trick to defeating Boris (or any other monster you say "oh man how do I kill this monster?") is don't fight Boris. Just walk away. Go to a different level and his mighty Orb of Destruction and Iron Shot will be completely powerless to kill your character.

?Silence does render him pretty harmless, but Boris is unique in that he can spawn again on later levels. It can be nicer to know where Boris is than is to be surprised by him on V:5, even if it means leaving a level uncleared. In almost all games, there will be parts of levels you cannot and should not try to clear when you find them.
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Post Thursday, 21st July 2016, 16:45

Re: Trying to win a DD

Crawl is too random to make replaying levels much of a learning experience. Monsters that get good damage rolls against you one time won't the next, for example. To get better you have to think about what the possibilities could occur in an encounter and prepare for them, even if they're unlikely. So simply going through a level that killed you once and completing doesn't mean you've improved, just not had bad luck.

That said, I think it's legit to use scumming to learn new monsters and branches. Crawl has a lot of content.
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Post Thursday, 21st July 2016, 16:47

Re: Trying to win a DD

Why didn't you just take Makhleb?
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Post Thursday, 21st July 2016, 16:50

Re: Trying to win a DD

jwoodward48ss wrote:Question: Does Device Surge increase how much HP is granted by a /oHW?

No. Neither does Evocations skill or that one mutation that makes your wands more powerful, but wastes MP on zaps.
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Post Thursday, 21st July 2016, 16:52

Re: Trying to win a DD

all before wrote:That said, I think it's legit to use scumming to learn new monsters and branches. Crawl has a lot of content.

I'd really recommend using wizmode instead, though. Scumming isn't a bad thing, it's just a blunt instrument for accomplishing something that's built into the game and far more powerful. With wizmode, you can reset fights and try again, or completely reroll levels to try again, etc.

What would be especially awesome is if wizmode had a better tool for sucking up a character dump and spitting out that character to play with, because setting up really specific builds can be a pain.

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Post Thursday, 21st July 2016, 18:07

Re: Trying to win a DD

tabstorm wrote:Why didn't you just take Makhleb?


DD of Pak is strong, maybe not as simple as Mak, but strong nonetheless.

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Post Friday, 22nd July 2016, 03:43

Re: Trying to win a DD

jwoodward48ss wrote:So I've... never won. And I've played quite a bit. DD appear to be OP and tedious, so they're perfect for a win!

I'm planning to start as a DDAr and worship Pak. Is that a good strategy?

Some other questions will probably follow, but here's one for now: How should I allot skills on a DDAr? Obviously, armour is good, but evo is necessary for my killdudes. Or should I switch to LB for my killdudes?



DDAr of Pak gave me my first win. I've done it with axe +shield (fuck me, right?) because it was +3. Overcharged healling wand, because why not, I can reacharge whatever I want whenever I want with Pak. Sticked to a Vamp axe, probably battle axe, maxed it to +9, but that prevented me from using rods. So, if you are better skilled, then simply stick to the best weapon, train it and train evocations and do the basics. Mid-late to late game was really easy, MR++(...)++ was a bless + high AC and the other benefits of DD pays for its lack of natural regen. Oh, and don't forget the Vials of Flood, Fire lanterns and the alike. They'll be nerfed in 0.19, I guess..
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