DDBe: Harold+net+bolt of flame+woods+flames=dead?

Thursday, 14th July 2016, 23:12 by jwoodward48ss

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-992-g4c5f75f (webtiles) character file. jwoodward48ss the Nimble (Deep Dwarf Berserker) Turns: 10736, Time: 00:45:37 Health: 59/150 AC: 45 Str: 30 XL: 11 Next: 73% Magic: 9/9 EV: 6 Int: 7 God: Trog [****..] Gold: 1111 SH: 0 Dex: 8 Spells: 0 memorised, 10 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + V - +0 war axe rCold + . . Gourm . S - +15 Maxwell's patent armour {-Cast -Tele rElec MR+ rCorr} rNeg . . . Faith + z - +2 buckler rPois . Spirit . T - +2 helmet {SInv} rElec + Dismiss . h - +1 cloak rCorr + Reflect . s - +2 pair of gloves SustAt . Harm . l - +2 pair of boots MR +++++ Clarity + B - amulet of faith Stlth .......... NoTele + f - ring of protection from cold NoCast + j - ring of protection from magic @: berserking, held, non-regenerating, very quick, almost entirely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: damage resistance, recharge devices, slimy green scales 1, thin metallic scales 1, clarity, clumsy 2, sense surroundings 2, electricity resistance, slow regeneration 3, wild magic 1 a: Device Recharging, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Trog. Trog is greatly pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 10 of its levels. You have also visited: Ossuary and Bailey. You have collected 1309 gold pieces. You have spent 198 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +1 hand axe U - a +1 battleaxe V - a +0 war axe (weapon) Missiles t - 9 tomahawks (quivered) O - 8 needles of confusion Q - 10 tomahawks of returning Armour b - a +0 animal skin h - a +1 cloak (worn) i - a +0 ring mail l - a +2 pair of boots (worn) s - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) z - a +2 buckler (worn) C - a +2 scale mail of poison resistance L - a +1 hat S - the +15 Maxwell's patent armour (worn) {-Cast -Tele rElec MR+ rCorr} (You found it in a bailey) It insulates you from electricity. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It prevents spellcasting. It prevents most forms of teleportation. It protects you from acid and corrosion. T - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn) Jewellery f - a ring of protection from cold (right hand) g - a ring of ice j - a ring of protection from magic (left hand) m - an uncursed ring of flight p - an uncursed amulet of magic regeneration y - an uncursed amulet of rage B - an amulet of faith (around neck) K - an uncursed ring of sustain attributes M - an uncursed ring of magical power P - a dented garnet amulet Wands c - a wand of heal wounds (9/9) q - a wand of random effects u - a wand of flame {recharged} A - a wand of flame {zapped: 1} I - a wand of polymorph Scrolls d - 3 scrolls of remove curse e - 8 scrolls of identify N - 3 scrolls of teleportation W - a scroll of blinking X - a scroll labeled TINEP QYRO Z - a scroll of enchant weapon Potions n - 4 potions of haste o - a potion of berserk rage r - 2 potions of heal wounds v - 5 potions of flight D - 3 orange potions E - a yellow potion F - 2 potions of curing G - a potion of invisibility H - 2 potions of agility J - a potion of mutation Books R - a book of Annihilations Spells Type Level a - Poison Arrow Conjuration/Poison 6 b - Chain Lightning Conjuration/Air 8 c - Lehudib's Crystal Spear Conjuration/Earth 8 d - Glaciate Conjuration/Ice 9 e - Fire Storm Conjuration/Fire 9 Trog disapproves of the use of such an item. Y - a book of Debilitation Spells Type Level a - Corona Hexes 1 b - Slow Hexes 2 c - Gell's Gravitas Hexes/Translocation 3 d - Inner Flame Hexes/Fire 3 e - Cause Fear Hexes 4 f - Leda's Liquefaction Hexes/Earth 4 Trog disapproves of the use of such an item. Comestibles k - 2 beef jerkies w - 27 fruits x - 3 chunks of flesh Skills: + Level 7.6 Fighting * Level 12.0 Axes + Level 1.9 Throwing + Level 8.3 Armour + Level 12.2 Dodging * Level 1.5 Shields + Level 1.5 Evocations You have 10 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (9/15) Temple (0/1) D:7 Lair (1/8) D:8 Orc (0/2) D:9 Altars: Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Sif Muna Trog Xom Zin The Shining One Shops: D:4 [ D:7 ?[ Annotations: Lair:1 Harold Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to damage. You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy. You passively map the area around you. You do not regenerate naturally. You are partially covered in slimy green scales. (AC +2) You are partially covered in thin metallic scales. (AC +2) You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. You are very clumsy. (Dex -4) You are resistant to electric shocks. (rElec) Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. Message History Press: ? - help, v - describe, . - travel, g - get item Here: Harold, wielding a dire flail and wearing a ring mail (flame, heavily wounded) A water moccasin corpse. There is something else lying underneath. The floor, spattered with blood. Save game and exit? Level annotation: Harold Welcome back, jwoodward48ss the Deep Dwarf Berserker. Trog says: Kill them all! Press ? for a list of commands and other information. Save game and exit? Level annotation: Harold Welcome back, jwoodward48ss the Deep Dwarf Berserker. Trog says: Kill them all! Press ? for a list of commands and other information. Save game and exit? 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Vanquished Creatures Fannar (Lair:1) The ghost of SladeWilson the Blocker, a novice MiFi of Okawaru (D:7) The ghost of Luckless the Carver, a novice HEFi (D:5) 4 spiny frogs A black mamba (Lair:1) 2 komodo dragons (Lair:1) A troll (D:9) Grinder (D:6) Sigmund (D:3) 7 spriggans (Lair:1) 2 wyverns 8 yaks A hippogriff (Lair:1) The ghost of qestral the Skirmisher, an amateur DsSk of Ru (D:4) 3 wargs (D:8) Duvessa (D:6) 2 water moccasins (Lair:1) 3 porcupines (Lair:1) 3 ice beasts 3 sky beasts 8 orc warriors 2 phantoms 2 black bears 5 ogres 3 centaurs An elf zombie (Ossuary) The ghost of Midn8 the Sneak, an amateur KoAs (D:3) 11 giant frogs 4 big kobolds A wyvern zombie (D:6) A scorpion (D:6) Dowan (D:6) 4 killer bees (D:9) A howler monkey (D:6) 3 crimson imps A quasit (D:9) 5 hounds 3 orc priests 13 orc wizards 2 centaur skeletons (D:8) Terence (D:3) 3 iguanas 7 worker ants 5 sheep A big kobold zombie (Ossuary) 3 mummies (Ossuary) 9 gnolls 4 adders 3 shadow imps 2 oozes (D:6) 2 adder skeletons 4 adder zombies (Ossuary) 2 worms 2 dart slugs 6 giant geckos 33 orcs 3 ball pythons 9 giant cockroaches A gnoll zombie (Ossuary) 6 goblins 5 hobgoblins 11 jackals 5 quokkas 8 bats 8 giant newts 3 goblin zombies (Ossuary) A hobgoblin zombie (Ossuary) 28 kobolds A kobold zombie (Ossuary) 5 quokka zombies (Ossuary) 7 rats A rat zombie (Ossuary) A butterfly (D:7) 309 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A spriggan (Lair:1) 1 creature vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) 2 fungi (Lair:1) 2 plants (Lair:1) 4 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 314 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | jwoodward48ss the Deep Dwarf Berserker began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 20/20 MP: 1/1 206 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 25/27 MP: 2/2 318 | D:1 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 1037 | D:2 | Reached ** piety under Trog 1061 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 34/34 MP: 3/3 1742 | D:3 | Noticed Midn8's ghost (amateur KoAs) 1758 | D:3 | Killed Midn8's ghost 1758 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 42/42 MP: 4/4 1817 | D:3 | Noticed Terence 1819 | D:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.19-a0-28-g8794423 to 0.19-a0-34-g6972264 1828 | D:3 | Killed Terence 1828 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 49/49 MP: 5/5 1988 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 2027 | D:3 | Killed Sigmund 2027 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 2027 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/56 MP: 6/6 2118 | D:3 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 2142 | D:3 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 2142 | D:3 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 2142 | D:3 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 2194 | D:3 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag. 2194 | D:3 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 2365 | D:3 | Reached *** piety under Trog 2372 | D:3 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 2511 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 2726 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 61/63 MP: 7/7 2805 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 2883 | D:4 | Found Lohe's Armour Shop. 2901 | D:4 | Bought a +2 scale mail of poison resistance for 198 gold pieces 2927 | D:4 | Noticed qestral's ghost (amateur DsSk) 2943 | D:4 | Killed qestral's ghost 2943 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 2948 | D:4 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 2977 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 3320 | D:4 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 73/73 MP: 8/8 3645 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3669 | D:5 | Noticed Luckless's ghost (novice HEFi) 3722 | D:5 | Killed Luckless's ghost 3722 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 3974 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 4505 | D:5 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4562 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 4886 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth] 4886 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 81/81 MP: 8/8 4977 | D:6 | Noticed Grinder 4993 | D:6 | Killed Grinder 5112 | D:6 | Reached **** piety under Trog 5117 | D:6 | Noticed Duvessa 5117 | D:6 | Noticed Dowan 5123 | D:6 | Killed Dowan 5135 | D:6 | Killed Duvessa 5226 | D:6 | Received a gift from Trog 5454 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [mutagenic meat] 5455 | D:6 | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [mutagenic meat] 5456 | D:6 | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [mutagenic meat] 5457 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in thin metallic scales. (AC +2) [mutagenic meat] 5602 | D:6 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5717 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 5720 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 5723 | D:6 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 5900 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are very clumsy. (Dex -4) [mutagenic meat] 5902 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [mutagenic meat] 5903 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in slimy green scales. (AC +2) [mutagenic meat] 5904 | D:6 | Lost mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [mutagenic meat] 5905 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are resistant to electric shocks. (rElec) [mutagenic meat] 5962 | D:6 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 6027 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 6113 | D:7 | Noticed SladeWilson's ghost (novice MiFi) 6177 | D:7 | Killed SladeWilson's ghost 6288 | D:7 | Found Gadovedgh's Magic Scroll Boutique. 6539 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 77/91 MP: 9/9 6679 | D:7 | Found Usmammu's Antique Armour Shoppe. 6735 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7306 | D:8 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 7594 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 7769 | D:8 | Found a flagged portal. 7848 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 8072 | Bailey | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 8329 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing 9148 | D:9 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 9228 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 9398 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 99/99 MP: 9/9 9459 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 10161 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 10164 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.19-a0-34-g6972264 to 0.19-a0-36-g4a0968a 10228 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 10272 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.19-a0-36-g4a0968a to 0.19-a0-75-g99403da 10272 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.19-a0-75-g99403da to 0.19-a0-98-gcbe9199 10621 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 10704 | Lair:1 | Noticed Harold 10736 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.19-a0-98-gcbe9199 to 0.19-a0-311-g229bcbb 10736 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.19-a0-311-g229bcbb to 0.19-a0-992-g4c5f75f Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 | ---------------+----------------------------------+----- Fighting | 3 4 5 6 7 | 7.6 Dodging | 3 4 5 6 8 10 11 12 | 12.2 Axes | 4 5 6 7 10 12 | 12.0 Armour | 3 4 6 7 8 | 8.3 Evocations | 1 | 1.5 Throwing | 1 | 1.9 Shields | 1 | 1.5 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Hand axe | 120 | 153 | 519 | || 792 War axe | | | 35 | 398 || 433 Battleaxe | | | | 233 || 233 Throw: Tomahawk | | | 2 | 23 || 25 Invok: Berserk | 4 | 7 | 23 | 27 || 61 Trog's Hand | | | 14 | 23 || 37 Burn Spellbooks | | | | 1 || 1 Brothers in Arms | | | | 1 || 1 Abil: Device Recharging | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Evoke: Wand | 1 | 3 | 4 | 1 || 9 Use: Scroll | 2 | 4 | 3 | 12 || 21 Potion | | 1 | 12 | 2 || 15 Eat: Chunk | 6 | 11 | 33 | 39 || 89 Bread ration | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Fruit | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Meat ration | | | 1 | || 1 Beef jerky | | | | 1 || 1 Armor: Animal skin | 5 | | | || 5 Ring mail | 50 | 60 | 175 | 130 || 415 Plate armour | | | | 290 || 290 Dodge: Dodged | 87 | 77 | 361 | 409 || 934 Block: Buckler | | | | 28 || 28

Thursday, 14th July 2016, 23:32 by ldf

It's more like Maxwell's armour = dead.

Thursday, 14th July 2016, 23:47 by CanOfWorms

you're a deep dwarf, just spam heal wounds (possibly hasted) if you're in actual danger

Friday, 15th July 2016, 01:59 by Airwolf

Well, he's berserking, so both teleport/blink and healing are off the table.

Job 1 is to get out of the net.
Job 2 is to decide whether to keep fighting or run. If you flee, you can use a potion of haste when berserk runs out. You seem to not be standing in flames at the moment, so I'd say fight. If you are standing in flames, you need to decide whether to step out or keep fighting.

Job 3 is to switch to the battleaxe and dump the war axe (after this fight or even this fight after berserk wears off).

Friday, 15th July 2016, 02:15 by HardboiledGargoyle

He's a deep dwarf with 45 AC. Will he even take any damage from the fire?

Friday, 15th July 2016, 02:51 by jwoodward48ss

Heh, I was more worried about the forest fire than I should have been.

So I've dropped the buckler and am now using the +1 war axe. Should I continue using Maxwell's? It seems really, really strong.

Edit: Acquirement scroll! What to acquire? I'm leaning on weapon.

Spoiler: show

(Get it? A dwarf - leaning on his weapon!)

Edit: Although I suppose either a rod or a better armour (w/o -Tele) or a wand would be great...

Edit: I chose armour, and got a buckler. Damnit, I should have read it while wearing my badbuckler! Nevermind, moving on.

Friday, 15th July 2016, 16:51 by dowan

I'm pretty sure acquirement does not care what you're wearing when you read it, just what you've seen in your playthrough.

Friday, 15th July 2016, 17:05 by and into

FYI jwoodward, duvessa posted a thorough spoiler/advice thread regarding acquirement:

Spoiler: show

I put it in spoiler tags but figuring this out on your own would be basically impossible and how ?acquirement works is one area where Crawl pretty badly deviates from some of its stated design goals.

Friday, 15th July 2016, 17:06 by Airwolf

I would have acquired armour, too. Sometimes you lose.

I hope you're using the battleaxe, not the war axe.

EDIT: Keep using Maxwell's for now...

Saturday, 16th July 2016, 00:15 by Gorgondantess

Geez, it looks like you put way too much into dodging for the kind of armor you were wearing. If your dodging and armour aptitudes were swapped, that might've been a lot better. AFAIK Dodging is almost completely useless for someone wearing very heavy armor, as its increase to EV is multiplicative, IIRC.

Sunday, 17th July 2016, 05:34 by jwoodward48ss

Jesus, you're right. No more dodging. Focus on axes, or only turn on axes?

Sunday, 17th July 2016, 14:56 by and into

You generally want to train dodging even on guys in heavy armor. You should train armor first though.

On this character you got bad returns on investment for dodging, but that's not because you have plate armor on; it is because you have 8 dexterity. (You didn't raise dex on level up and you have clumsy 2. Presumably due to quaffing !mutation...?)

With very low dexterity you get bad returns on EV from dodging. With very low total base AC, you get bad returns on bonus AC from armor skill. Very low strength relative to encumbrance rating will also hurt EV a lot but you don't generally have to worry about that on any berserker.

Berserkers should raise dexterity every third level, pretty much always. Berserkers should always train dodging eventually, it is just a question of when.

Please do not believe and/or spread the idea that dodging is useless for guys in heavy armor, you will end up with worse defenses in mid- and late game. Seriously, look through the YAVP forum, you will see plenty of characters in the heaviest armor (GDA, CPA) getting a lot out of dodging!

DDBe: Harold+net+bolt of flame+woods+flames=dead?

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