Singing Sword for SpFi


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Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Saturday, 2nd July 2016, 16:29

Singing Sword for SpFi

Just found Singing Sword on D8 as SpFi of Gozag. Should I ignore it?

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Post Saturday, 2nd July 2016, 16:31

Re: Singing Sword for SpFi

Not enough information, obviously. Why don't you show the dump?

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Saturday, 2nd July 2016, 16:33

Re: Singing Sword for SpFi

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18.1 (tiles) character file.

SpFi the Slicer (Spriggan Fighter)                 Turns: 10231, Time: 00:37:19

Health: 45/45      AC:  4    Str: 12    XL:     9   Next: 48%
Magic:  10/10      EV: 25    Int: 10    God:    Gozag
Gold:   892        SH:  7    Dex: 18    Spells: 0 memorised, 8 levels left

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis +    a - +1 short sword (drain)
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    y - +1 robe {MR+}
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    c - +0 buckler
rPois  .          Spirit   .    (helmet restricted)
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    C - +0 cloak
rCorr  .          Reflect  .    (gloves unavailable)
SustAt .          Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
MR     ++...                    (no amulet)
Stlth  +++++.....               (no ring)
                                n - ring of positive energy {rN+}

@: very quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2
a: Potion Petition, Call Merchant, Bribe Branch, Renounce Religion


You are on level 8 of the Dungeon.
You worship Gozag.
Gozag is noncommittal.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 8 of its levels.

You have collected 1525 gold pieces.
You have spent 38 gold pieces at shops.
You have paid 595 gold pieces to Gozag.


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.


   Skills:
 + Level 4.3 Fighting
 * Level 9.5 Short Blades
 + Level 9.3 Dodging
 + Level 9.2 Stealth
 + Level 3.6 Shields


You have 8 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +1 short sword of draining (weapon)
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
 b - a +0 hunting sling
   (You found it on level 2 of the Dungeon)
 i - a +0 rapier
 r - a dagger
   (You took it off an orc on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 H - the +7 Singing Sword
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
Missiles
 g - 80 sling bullets
 k - 57 poisoned needles
 u - 202 stones
 x - 3 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 c - a +0 buckler (worn)
 y - a +1 robe of magic resistance (worn)
   (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 C - a +0 cloak (worn)
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
Magical Staves
 G - a weird glowing staff
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
Jewellery
 n - a ring of positive energy (left hand) {rN+}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
Wands
 A - a wand of confusion
   (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
 B - a wand of acid
   (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
 E - a wand of acid
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
Scrolls
 p - 5 scrolls of remove curse {!r}
 t - 2 scrolls of teleportation {!r}
 z - a scroll of magic mapping {!r}
 F - a scroll labeled XOKIERR ZAISI {!r}
Potions
 d - a potion of might {!q}
 e - a potion of cancellation {!q}
 h - 2 potions of heal wounds {!q}
 m - 2 potions of haste {!q}
 o - 3 potions of flight {!q}
 q - a glowing blue potion {!q}
 s - a potion of lignification {!q}
 v - 2 potions of curing {!q}
 w - an emerald potion {!q}
 D - a yellow potion {!q}
Comestibles
 f - 2 bread rations
 j - 8 fruits
 l - a slice of pizza


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/15)             Temple (0/1) D:6         
  Lair: D:8-11     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Dithmenos
Fedhas
Gozag
Makhleb
Qazlal
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 (   D:6 [(

Annotations:
D:3 flight for gold, Terence
D:7 exclusion: centaur
D:8 Pikel

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There are no monsters in sight!

Message History

The scorpion is no longer distracted by gold.
The bat completely misses you.
You hit the bat but do no damage. The bat barely misses you.
You hit the scorpion. You drain the scorpion!
The scorpion is moderately wounded.
The bat is distracted by the nearby gold.
You block the scorpion's attack.
You hit the scorpion but do no damage.
The scorpion is moderately wounded.
The scorpion misses you.
You hit the scorpion but do no damage. You drain the scorpion!
The scorpion is moderately wounded.
You hit the scorpion. You drain the scorpion!
The scorpion is severely wounded.
You block the scorpion's attack.
You closely miss the scorpion.
The scorpion is severely wounded.
The scorpion barely misses you.
You hit the scorpion but do no damage.
The scorpion is severely wounded.
You hit the scorpion.
The scorpion is almost dead.
The bat is no longer distracted by gold.
The scorpion completely misses you.
You hit the scorpion but do no damage.
The scorpion is almost dead.
You block the scorpion's attack.
You completely miss the scorpion.
The scorpion is almost dead.
You hit the scorpion but do no damage. You drain the scorpion!
You kill the scorpion!
You block the bat's attack.
You barely miss the bat. The bat completely misses you.
Throwing (i - inventory): u - 202 stones (quivered)
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - bat
Aim: a bat
You throw a stone. The stone closely misses the bat.
The bat completely misses you.
The bat misses you.
You see here 56 gold pieces.
Throwing (i - inventory): u - 201 stones (quivered)
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - bat
Aim: a bat
You throw a stone. The stone closely misses the bat.
You block the bat's attack.
A scorpion comes into view.
The bat completely misses you.
Things that are here:
a stone; a tomahawk
Unknown command.
You closely miss the bat. The bat hits you but does no damage.
You hit the bat.
You kill the bat!
Unknown command.
Throwing (i - inventory): u - 200 stones (quivered)
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - scorpion
Aim: a scorpion
You throw a stone.
The stone hits the scorpion but does no damage.
You block the scorpion's attack.
You hit the scorpion but do no damage. Something hits the fungus.
You hit the scorpion. You drain the scorpion!
The scorpion is heavily wounded.
The bat hits the fungus but does no damage.
You block the scorpion's attack.
You hit the scorpion.
The scorpion is severely wounded.
The scorpion closely misses you.
You hit the scorpion but do no damage.
The scorpion is severely wounded.
You hit the scorpion. You drain the scorpion!
You kill the scorpion!
You closely miss the bat. The bat closely misses you. The bat misses you.
You barely miss the bat. You block the bat's attack.
You hit the bat.
The bat is severely wounded.
You block the bat's attack. The bat completely misses you.
You closely miss the bat. The bat hits you but does no damage.
The bat completely misses you.
You hit the bat.
You kill the bat!
You block the bat's attack.
You hit the bat.
You kill the bat!
u - 200 stones (gained 1); x - a tomahawk
You now have 854 gold pieces (gained 56).
x - 3 tomahawks (gained 2)
Found a mace.
You now have 872 gold pieces (gained 18).
u - 201 stones (gained 1)
You now have 885 gold pieces (gained 13).
You now have 892 gold pieces (gained 7).
u - 202 stones (gained 1)
Found a hand axe.
Found a mace.
You see here a mace.
H - the +7 Singing Sword
Things that are here:
a hand axe; a long sword; a short sword
Save game and exit?

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | SpFi the Spriggan Fighter began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 2/2
   204 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3
   754 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/19 MP: 4/4
  1071 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  1349 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
  2029 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 23/23 MP: 5/5
  2311 | D:3      | Noticed a centaur
  2330 | D:3      | Killed a centaur
  2330 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 8/27 MP: 6/6
  2639 | D:3      | Noticed Terence
  2798 | D:3      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  2811 | D:3      | Became a worshipper of Gozag Ym Sagoz the Greedy
  2979 | D:3      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  2981 | D:3      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  3001 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  3027 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  3155 | D:4      | Found Godiap's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
  3359 | D:4      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  3359 | D:4      | Noticed an Executioner
  3362 | D:4      | Noticed a ynoxinul
  3362 | D:4      | Noticed a hellwing
  3489 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/32 MP: 7/7
  3859 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3894 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  4413 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 33/35 MP: 8/8
  6174 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 28/39 MP: 9/9
  7394 | D:6      | Found Adghary's Antique Armour Shop.
  7398 | D:6      | Bought a glowing robe for 19 gold pieces
  7408 | D:6      | Bought a glowing robe for 19 gold pieces
  7442 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7658 | D:6      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  8064 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 43/45 MP: 10/10
  8164 | D:6      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  8559 | D:7      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  9680 | D:8      | Noticed Pikel

Vanquished Creatures
  A slave (D:8)
  An ice beast (D:5)
  3 ogres
  3 centaurs
  2 big kobolds (D:5)
  2 wyvern zombies
  3 giant frogs (D:6)
  6 scorpions
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:6)
  8 wights
  4 crimson imps
  A quasit (D:6)
  A jelly (D:6)
  A giant frog zombie (D:7)
  A centaur zombie (D:5)
  A giant frog skeleton (D:5)
  6 orc priests
  2 hounds
  3 orc wizards
  4 worker ants
  2 iguanas (D:7)
  6 gnolls (D:5)
  A worker ant zombie (D:6)
  12 adders
  A river rat (D:3)
  3 shadow imps
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  3 adder zombies
  A dart slug (D:1)
  3 giant geckos
  17 orcs
  4 giant cockroaches
  31 goblins
  31 hobgoblins
  13 jackals
  2 quokkas
  3 ball pythons
  20 bats
  A giant gecko zombie (D:6)
  3 giant newts
  16 kobolds
  10 rats
238 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 fungi (D:8)
2 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 240 creatures vanquished

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Rapier            |    57 |       |       ||    57
       Short sword       |   118 |   229 |   691 ||  1038
       Hunting sling     |       |     6 |       ||     6
 Fire: Hunting sling     |     2 |    19 |   177 ||   198
Throw: Tomahawk          |       |     1 |     5 ||     6
       Stone             |       |       |     4 ||     4
Invok: Potion Petition   |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Call Merchant     |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     7 |     3 |     6 ||    16
 Stab: Sleeping          |     8 |     6 |    14 ||    28
       Invisible         |       |     3 |       ||     3
       Distracted        |       |     1 |     8 ||     9
       Held in net/web   |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Royal jelly       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Bread ration      |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Pizza             |       |       |     1 ||     1
Armor: Robe              |    16 |     3 |    31 ||    50
Dodge: Dodged            |   113 |   127 |   357 ||   597
Block: Buckler           |    63 |    59 |   144 ||   266

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 |
---------------+----------------------------+-----
Short Blades   |  3     4     5  6  7  8  9 |  9.5
Dodging        |        5     6     7  8  9 |  9.3
Stealth        |        1  3  4  5  7  8  9 |  9.2
Fighting       |                       3  4 |  4.3
Shields        |                          3 |  3.6

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Post Saturday, 2nd July 2016, 16:49

Re: Singing Sword for SpFi

Oh, I see, so you'd have to give up the buckler to use the double sword. Tough.

SpFi sounded awful at first, and now it looks even more awful :D

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Saturday, 2nd July 2016, 16:54

Re: Singing Sword for SpFi

It's ok, I don't have a good buckler and SH 7 looks not very useful with EV 25 (probably even higher, I do lose some EV to that buckler).

Edit. Ok, tried the sword. It's fun but probably staying with short blades would be optimal.

Edit. There is +4 vampiric scimitar in a shop, probably I should buy it

Edit. Dead.

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Post Saturday, 2nd July 2016, 19:10

Re: Singing Sword for SpFi

spriggan fighter with no magic screams to me stealth and ranged combat. maybe stab anything that might be sleeping, so throwing if you find good needles for stabbing.

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Post Saturday, 2nd July 2016, 19:23

Re: Singing Sword for SpFi

My thoughts on SpFi:

the best strategy is to wait until it comes up as a Nem's choice combo in a tournament. Then the stuggle scores you some points at least.

Sar

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Post Saturday, 2nd July 2016, 19:34

Re: Singing Sword for SpFi

I don't think SpFi is hard, I mean you have Sp speed and Sp EV. It's probably annoying, though.

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Post Saturday, 2nd July 2016, 19:39

Re: Singing Sword for SpFi

Yes, every Sp is easy IMHO. I died because I felt lazy to retreat, preferred to play "will you kill me or will I heal from hitting you". High EV encourages the gamble, I even had "respectable" AC from QDA.
Gozag is not that great with Sp, I requested a weapon shop and got nothing useful, then requested a general shop and bought just some average potions.

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