vampiric quickblade

[ajon]

Is a vampiric quickblade worth it or is the healing going to be too miniscule?

[dowan]

It's going to be miniscule, probably worth re-branding in my opinion.

[ajon]

still waiting on a scroll to rebrand. have a distortion rapier as well and a +4 double sword with a longblades manual in my stash. Though I would lose my shield of reflection which is kind of nice. Ill probably just look for a demon blade in depths if nothing else comes along.

[tedric]

LearnDB says vamp does 1d(damage) when it triggers, so...have you tried it? If you can stack a bunch of slaying on it or are doing a lot of mid-fights stabs, it might be pretty good. Unless you are relying on weapon-slot swaps for rods or something, it's probably worth eating a ration so you can equip it once and find out (even on a spriggan, assuming you're managing hunger well).

[HardboiledGargoyle]

yeah and if the healing is miniscule then the damage from a brand like flaming would also be miniscule, also note that you can get hundreds of hitpoints on a stab

[ajon]

I haven't tried it yet. I have something like 16 breads and have a bunch of food shops so hunger is not an issue. I might give it a go. Invisibility/confuse/dazzling could get me a lot of extra damage most fights. I think draconians cant see invis which is nice. Only thing I worry about if defeating OoF but I have malign gateway, which might help. That or I may just switch to distortion short sword I found and use haste to try and banish them. I'm thinking it will trigger faster than it would take to kill one with my other weapons.

[HardboiledGargoyle]

remember that orbs of fire can't use doors and that unlike other summons, your eldritch tentacles will attack monsters you can't see

[WingedEspeon]

I belive demon blades are 2h for spriggans, so you want a demon whip if you want to keep your shield.

[ajon]

Hmm. tough decisions. the QB isn't too bad in depths so far. Can manage to stab most things I run into. I found the elemental staff and a lajatang of speed too. One of those games where I'm getting too many choices. Likely not worth the switch though I think to train staves up. Might just boost summoning a bit more and get something to complement malign gateway for OoF and anything I cand handle and switch to a distortion short sword when I'm ready to do the run.

[Sprucery]

My VpAs of Chei used a +8 vamp rapier and it was really good.

(Then I splatted on Depths:2 when I stupidly tried to fight a shambling mangrove, octopode crusher + some other stuff.)

[ajon]

Hmm. tough decisions. the QB isn't too bad in depths so far. Can manage to stab most things I run into. I found the elemental staff and a lajatang of speed too. One of those games where I'm getting too many choices. Likely not worth the switch though I think to train staves up. Might just boost summoning a bit more and get something to complement malign gateway for OoF and anything I cand handle and switch to a distortion short sword when I'm ready to do the run.

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[tabstorm]

It's a short blade, and is thus bad. It's less bad than other short blades except elec, though, and still good enough to use if you've commited to short blades already.

[ajon]

Hmm. post from my phone before got all screwed up. I lost that character. Thought I was tough enough to manhandle a handful of orb guardians with a malign gateway at my back. It did not turn out like I thought that it would. Still, I'm trying out warp weapon on one now for threats that are too big for my short blade. Seems to be working fairly well.

[crate]

The easiest way to evaluate vampiric brand is to assume that healing 1 player hp is exactly as good as dealing 1 more damage, in which case vamp brand is equivalent to +30% damage. Realistically it is a bit better than that most of the time. This means that if you would not use the weapon if it had flaming/freezing/vorpal brand, you should also not use it with vampiric brand (obvious exception for DD, of course).