A bit of a fix (DDBe, lair:1, fannar)

Tuesday, 3rd May 2016, 16:29 by jwoodward48ss

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-34-g6972264 (webtiles) character file. jwoodward48ss the Nimble (Deep Dwarf Berserker) Turns: 10164, Time: 00:35:15 Health: 99/100 AC: 42 Str: 25 XL: 11 Next: 26% Magic: 9/9 EV: 10 Int: 7 God: Trog [****..] Gold: 1061 SH: 0 Dex: 8 Spells: 0 memorised, 10 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + U - +1 battleaxe rCold + . . Gourm . S - +15 Maxwell's patent armour {-Cast -Tele rElec MR+ rCorr} rNeg . . . Faith + (shield currently unavailable) rPois . Spirit . T - +2 helmet {SInv} rElec + Dismiss . h - +0 cloak rCorr + Reflect . s - +2 pair of gloves SustAt . Harm . l - +1 pair of boots MR +++++ Clarity + B - amulet of faith Stlth .......... NoTele + f - ring of protection from cold NoCast + j - ring of protection from magic @: non-regenerating, almost entirely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: damage resistance, recharge devices, slimy green scales 1, thin metallic scales 1, clarity, clumsy 2, sense surroundings 2, electricity resistance, slow regeneration 3, wild magic 1 a: Device Recharging, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Trog. Trog is greatly pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 10 of its levels. You have also visited: Ossuary and Bailey. You have collected 1259 gold pieces. You have spent 198 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +1 hand axe z - a +0 war axe U - a +1 battleaxe (weapon) V - a war axe Missiles t - 9 tomahawks O - 8 needles of confusion Q - 10 tomahawks of returning (quivered) Armour b - a +0 animal skin h - a +0 cloak (worn) i - a +0 ring mail l - a +1 pair of boots (worn) s - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) C - a +2 scale mail of poison resistance L - a +1 hat S - the +15 Maxwell's patent armour (worn) {-Cast -Tele rElec MR+ rCorr} (You found it in a bailey) It insulates you from electricity. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It prevents spellcasting. It prevents most forms of teleportation. It protects you from acid and corrosion. T - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn) Jewellery f - a ring of protection from cold (right hand) j - a ring of protection from magic (left hand) m - an uncursed ring of flight p - an uncursed amulet of magic regeneration y - an uncursed amulet of rage B - an amulet of faith (around neck) K - an uncursed ring of sustain attributes M - an uncursed ring of magical power P - a dented garnet amulet Wands c - a wand of heal wounds (9/9) q - a wand of random effects u - a wand of flame {recharged} A - a wand of flame {zapped: 1} I - a wand of polymorph Scrolls d - 3 scrolls of remove curse e - 8 scrolls of identify o - 2 scrolls of enchant armour N - 3 scrolls of teleportation W - a scroll of blinking Potions n - 4 potions of haste r - 3 potions of heal wounds v - 5 potions of flight D - 3 orange potions E - a yellow potion F - 2 potions of curing G - a potion of invisibility H - 2 potions of agility J - a potion of mutation Books g - a Fen Folio Spells Type Level a - Corpse Rot Necromancy 2 b - Stone Arrow Conjuration/Earth 3 c - Leda's Liquefaction Hexes/Earth 4 d - Summon Forest Summoning/Translocation 5 e - Hydra Form Transmutation 6 f - Summon Hydra Summoning 7 Trog disapproves of the use of such an item. R - a book of Annihilations Spells Type Level a - Poison Arrow Conjuration/Poison 6 b - Chain Lightning Conjuration/Air 8 c - Lehudib's Crystal Spear Conjuration/Earth 8 d - Glaciate Conjuration/Ice 9 e - Fire Storm Conjuration/Fire 9 Trog disapproves of the use of such an item. Y - a book of Debilitation Spells Type Level a - Corona Hexes 1 b - Slow Hexes 2 c - Gell's Gravitas Hexes/Translocation 3 d - Inner Flame Hexes/Fire 3 e - Cause Fear Hexes 4 f - Leda's Liquefaction Hexes/Earth 4 Trog disapproves of the use of such an item. Comestibles k - 3 beef jerkies w - 27 fruits x - 4 chunks of flesh Skills: + Level 7.1 Fighting * Level 10.9 Axes + Level 1.8 Throwing + Level 7.8 Armour * Level 12.0 Dodging + Level 1.5 Evocations You have 10 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (9/15) Temple (0/1) D:7 Lair (1/8) D:8 Orc (0/2) D:9 Altars: Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Sif Muna Trog Xom Zin The Shining One Shops: D:4 [ D:7 ?[ Annotations: Lair:1 Fannar Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to damage. You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy. You passively map the area around you. You do not regenerate naturally. You are partially covered in slimy green scales (AC +2). You are partially covered in thin metallic scales (AC +2). You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. You are very clumsy. (Dex -4) You are resistant to electric shocks. Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. Message History Here: Fannar, wielding a quarterstaff of freezing, wearing a robe of cold resistance and wearing a ring of ice (covered in an icy film) The floor. Unknown command. Put on which piece of jewellery? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You're wearing all the rings you can. Remove which one? (? for menu, Esc to cancel) < or j - a ring of protection from magic > or M - a ring of magical power You remove your ring of magical power. You feel your magic capacity decrease. f - a ring of protection from cold (right hand) You feel the effects of Trog's Hand fading. Save game and exit? Level annotation: Fannar Welcome back, jwoodward48ss the Deep Dwarf Berserker. Trog says: Kill them all! Press ? for a list of commands and other information. Press: ? - help, v - describe, . - travel Here: Fannar, wielding a quarterstaff of freezing, wearing a robe of cold resistance and wearing a ring of ice (covered in an icy film) The floor. 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Vanquished Creatures The ghost of SladeWilson the Blocker, a novice MiFi of Okawaru (D:7) The ghost of Luckless the Carver, a novice HEFi (D:5) 3 spiny frogs 2 komodo dragons (Lair:1) A troll (D:9) Grinder (D:6) Sigmund (D:3) A spriggan (Lair:1) 2 wyverns 5 yaks (D:9) The ghost of qestral the Skirmisher, an amateur DsSk of Ru (D:4) 3 wargs (D:8) Duvessa (D:6) 3 ice beasts 3 sky beasts 8 orc warriors 2 phantoms A black bear (D:9) 5 ogres 3 centaurs An elf zombie (Ossuary) The ghost of Midn8 the Sneak, an amateur KoAs (D:3) 9 giant frogs 4 big kobolds A wyvern zombie (D:6) A scorpion (D:6) Dowan (D:6) 4 killer bees (D:9) A howler monkey (D:6) 3 crimson imps A quasit (D:9) 5 hounds 3 orc priests 13 orc wizards 2 centaur skeletons (D:8) Terence (D:3) 2 iguanas 7 worker ants 4 sheep A big kobold zombie (Ossuary) 3 mummies (Ossuary) 9 gnolls 4 adders 3 shadow imps 2 oozes (D:6) 2 adder skeletons 4 adder zombies (Ossuary) 2 worms 2 dart slugs 6 giant geckos 33 orcs 3 ball pythons 9 giant cockroaches A gnoll zombie (Ossuary) 6 goblins 5 hobgoblins 11 jackals 5 quokkas 8 bats 8 giant newts 3 goblin zombies (Ossuary) A hobgoblin zombie (Ossuary) 28 kobolds A kobold zombie (Ossuary) 5 quokka zombies (Ossuary) 7 rats A rat zombie (Ossuary) A butterfly (D:7) 286 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A fungus (Lair:1) 2 plants (Lair:1) 3 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 289 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | jwoodward48ss the Deep Dwarf Berserker began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 20/20 MP: 1/1 206 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 25/27 MP: 2/2 318 | D:1 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 1037 | D:2 | Reached ** piety under Trog 1061 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 34/34 MP: 3/3 1496 | D:2 | Reached skill level 3 in Dodging 1742 | D:3 | Noticed Midn8's ghost (amateur KoAs) 1758 | D:3 | Killed Midn8's ghost 1758 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 42/42 MP: 4/4 1817 | D:3 | Noticed Terence 1819 | D:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.19-a0-28-g8794423 to 0.19-a0-34-g6972264 1828 | D:3 | Killed Terence 1828 | D:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging 1828 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 49/49 MP: 5/5 1988 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 2027 | D:3 | Killed Sigmund 2027 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 2027 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/56 MP: 6/6 2118 | D:3 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 2142 | D:3 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 2142 | D:3 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 2142 | D:3 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 2194 | D:3 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag. 2194 | D:3 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 2365 | D:3 | Reached *** piety under Trog 2372 | D:3 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 2511 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 2726 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 61/63 MP: 7/7 2805 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 2883 | D:4 | Found Lohe's Armour Shop. 2901 | D:4 | Bought a +2 scale mail of poison resistance for 198 gold pieces 2927 | D:4 | Noticed qestral's ghost (amateur DsSk) 2943 | D:4 | Killed qestral's ghost 2943 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging 2943 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 2948 | D:4 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 2977 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 3320 | D:4 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 73/73 MP: 8/8 3645 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3669 | D:5 | Noticed Luckless's ghost (novice HEFi) 3671 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging 3722 | D:5 | Killed Luckless's ghost 3722 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 3722 | D:5 | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging 3974 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 4505 | D:5 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4562 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 4886 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth] 4886 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 81/81 MP: 8/8 4977 | D:6 | Noticed Grinder 4993 | D:6 | Killed Grinder 5085 | D:6 | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging 5112 | D:6 | Reached **** piety under Trog 5117 | D:6 | Noticed Duvessa 5117 | D:6 | Noticed Dowan 5123 | D:6 | Killed Dowan 5135 | D:6 | Killed Duvessa 5226 | D:6 | Received a gift from Trog 5454 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [mutagenic meat] 5455 | D:6 | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [mutagenic meat] 5456 | D:6 | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [mutagenic meat] 5457 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in thin metallic scales (AC +2). [mutagenic meat] 5602 | D:6 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5717 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 5720 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 5723 | D:6 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 5900 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are very clumsy. (Dex -4) [mutagenic meat] 5902 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [mutagenic meat] 5903 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in slimy green scales (AC +2). [mutagenic meat] 5904 | D:6 | Lost mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [mutagenic meat] 5905 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are resistant to electric shocks. [mutagenic meat] 5962 | D:6 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 6027 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 6113 | D:7 | Noticed SladeWilson's ghost (novice MiFi) 6177 | D:7 | Killed SladeWilson's ghost 6288 | D:7 | Found Gadovedgh's Magic Scroll Boutique. 6539 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 77/91 MP: 9/9 6679 | D:7 | Found Usmammu's Antique Armour Shoppe. 6735 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7053 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging 7306 | D:8 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 7594 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 7769 | D:8 | Found a flagged portal. 7848 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 8072 | Bailey | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 8329 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing 9148 | D:9 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 9228 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 9398 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 99/99 MP: 9/9 9459 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 10091 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging 10161 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 | ---------------+----------------------------------+----- Fighting | 3 4 5 6 7 | 7.1 Dodging | 3 4 5 6 8 10 11 12 | 12.0 Axes | 4 5 6 7 10 | 10.9 Armour | 3 4 6 7 | 7.8 Evocations | 1 | 1.5 Throwing | 1 | 1.8 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Hand axe | 120 | 153 | 519 | || 792 War axe | | | 35 | 301 || 336 Battleaxe | | | | 168 || 168 Throw: Tomahawk | | | 2 | 21 || 23 Invok: Berserk | 4 | 7 | 23 | 21 || 55 Trog's Hand | | | 14 | 18 || 32 Abil: Device Recharging | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Evoke: Wand | 1 | 3 | 4 | 1 || 9 Use: Scroll | 2 | 4 | 3 | 10 || 19 Potion | | 1 | 12 | 1 || 14 Eat: Chunk | 6 | 11 | 33 | 34 || 84 Bread ration | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Fruit | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Meat ration | | | 1 | || 1 Armor: Animal skin | 5 | | | || 5 Ring mail | 50 | 60 | 175 | 130 || 415 Plate armour | | | | 153 || 153 Dodge: Dodged | 87 | 77 | 361 | 350 || 875

How do I deal with this situation? At least I have my =oRC on.

The staircase is rather far away (17 tiles through a twisty forest), so that's not really an option unless I use haste. Would !oHaste save my dwarven ass, or no?

Do you think I could defeat him with some buffs and trog-summons?

Tuesday, 3rd May 2016, 16:39 by WingedEspeon

You could probably beat him unbuffed without bro's, although I wouldn't recommend it. Also, you are probably better off taking level up points in dex at this point.

Tuesday, 3rd May 2016, 16:42 by Malevolent

Fannar isn't that dangerous if you have cold resist, in my experience. Especially with a berserker. Berserk or a single bro-in-arms would probably be enough, summon two if you wanna be really safe. It's incredible how much stronger monsters a berserking Trog-lodyte with a couple BiAs can defeat.

Tuesday, 3rd May 2016, 16:44 by WingedEspeon

You don't want to use berserk because Fannar has blink.

Wednesday, 4th May 2016, 00:33 by tabstorm

You are a Deep Dwarf of Trog. You have Maxwell's. You have rC. Just hold down tab until Fannar dies, or summon a brother if you want to.

Wednesday, 4th May 2016, 13:53 by njvack

I'd probably bro up.

Also, enchant the cloak and boots. Not while you have a unique onscreen, of course.

Wednesday, 4th May 2016, 14:04 by TwoLeggedMammal

Kudos for thinking ahead. Usually in these posts the character is down to about 25% health and is just a turn or two from dying; this is a good point at which to make the fight or flight decision.

Wednesday, 4th May 2016, 15:30 by jwoodward48ss

Would it be useful to throw a book under his feet and ignite it?

Wednesday, 4th May 2016, 15:31 by WingedEspeon

jwoodward48ss wrote:Would it be useful to throw a book under his feet and ignite it?

If you have books, that is what they are for when you worship trog.
TLDR;yes.

Wednesday, 4th May 2016, 15:47 by jwoodward48ss

Woot, I made it! It was rather tricky, as he kept summoning ice beasts, but with a book, a berserk polar bear, and a quick berserk at the end to finish him off, I managed to slay Fennar.

Thanks everybody for the great advice!

Wednesday, 4th May 2016, 18:15 by njvack

WingedEspeon wrote:
jwoodward48ss wrote:Would it be useful to throw a book under his feet and ignite it?

If you have books, that is what they are for when you worship trog.
TLDR;yes.

In this particular case, Fannar has blink so not only will he not necessarily stay parked on the fire, but the fire might restrict your movement once he's blinked. So books aren't quite as awesome in this case.

Edit: Also, congrats on surviving!

Thursday, 5th May 2016, 12:29 by dowan

The throwing the book at them then burning it is the ultimate trog secret technique. It's even better if you have enough slaying to kill them with the book!

FR: When following trog, books can be quivered normally as ammo

Thursday, 5th May 2016, 14:50 by jwoodward48ss

Given my stats and equipment, do you think I could survive through Lair:8? (I know not to even look at any of the S:1's - Shoals can be especially awful when you step in.)

Thursday, 5th May 2016, 15:11 by Siegurt

jwoodward48ss wrote:Given my stats and equipment, do you think I could survive through Lair:8? (I know not to even look at any of the S:1's - Shoals can be especially awful when you step in.)

Yes, but you'll have to be careful with hydras, your weapon will make them stronger and more dangerous, and you don't have enough wand power nor the throwing skill to safely kill them with ranged attacks, probably the best bet in your current situation is to avoid them, if you run into a situation where you can't safely avoid them, then probably better to back up to the dungeon, or if you need to, summon bro's to kill them. Make sure to try to have the hydra follow *past* your summon, as hydras take out summoned bros pretty quickly if they try to tank, wheras their hasted movement means even if the hydra is moving away from the summon, the summon will get free shots on the hydra's back as they walk away towards you. While brother's in arms is a very effective way to deal with hydras, if you can safely avoid them entirely you're probably better off saving the piety.

Lair:8 only has a small difficulty increase over the rest of the lair. Personally, I've never found I was unable to handle Lair:8 if I could handle Lair:7, however some of the vaults do have some creatures that you don't see in the rest of the lair, so if you don't know how to handle them, they could be more dangerous.

Thursday, 5th May 2016, 15:22 by njvack

Note that you have a wand of polymorph, and that hydras are really bad things to use it on, so don't do that. You can pretty easily get things like storm dragons and then you have problems. (Back to your original situation, trying to polymorph Fannar would have been an OK idea, though.)

Longer-term, I'd invest in a ranged attack (and I would choose Throwing). Even more than other species, DDs want to hurt monsters when they can't hurt you.

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