Beogh's Inappropriate Wrath in v.17

[Hopeless]

I've noticed that playing a Hill Orc (follower of Beogh) in v17 is dangerous because suddenly you will do something unexplained and be in penitence with Beogh without warning or even notification. This seems slightly counterintuitive to me (like a number of changes in V17 that I won't go into because opinions.) Is this behavior going to stay in the stable builds? If so I guess I am done with DCSS for the foreseeable future. Not very sad as I think I have had maybe 6 wins total and none with 17.

[chequers]

So sad

[RBrandon]

If you get penance without warning it is probably a bug, not an intentional change as you bizarrely imply. Do you remember what you did to make this happen?

[dynast]

didnt you just tab with a projectile? or stumble into another orc while confused? or butchered a orc corpse in a stack of other corpses? there are many ways to accidentally get yourself under silly penance but paying attention usually prevents that.

[njvack]

didnt you just tab with a projectile?

Ugh, tabbing with projectiles should default to not having them keep going if they miss. Actually, is there an .rc option for this?

[Celerity]

didnt you just tab with a projectile?

Ugh, tabbing with projectiles should default to not having them keep going if they miss. Actually, is there an .rc option for this?

Isn't it AUTOFIGHT_FIRE_STOP = true ? I'm not sure, but my ranged autofight definitely stops by default.

[RBrandon]

I am 100% sure that the game prompts before doing anything that dynast mentioned. My guess would be an elemental evoker since they don't have targeters at all (except phial)

I also got penance for a good god by using tukima on a demon trident, but that's not Beogh.

[Lacuenta]

Were you wearing a shield of reflection?

[WalrusKing]

In my last beogh game, I found out the hard way that throwing while confused can throw in any direction and doesn't prompt you if allies are nearby

[Hopeless]

Nope, tabbing sucks. I almost never tab anything that isn't a) a rat or b) a bat. I don't believe I did any of the above mentioned things that might typically trigger beogh wrath. I have played tons of HOs in previous versions and never once triggered wrath.

[Hopeless]

In my last beogh game, I found out the hard way that throwing while confused can throw in any direction and doesn't prompt you if allies are nearby

That's pretty ugly. Surely a prompt is the standard by now? Hope that gets fixed. Still not what happened with me. I have no idea WHY it happened and the logs were not helpful either (I couldn't even find the initial declaration of wrath.) I don't think it is a bug (how often do we find bugs once a version is stable? For me it is pretty rare, though I didn't play v16 stable very much, and prior versions I often played trunk versions.)

[WalrusKing]

In my last beogh game, I found out the hard way that throwing while confused can throw in any direction and doesn't prompt you if allies are nearby

That's pretty ugly. Surely a prompt is the standard by now? Hope that gets fixed. Still not what happened with me. I have no idea WHY it happened and the logs were not helpful either (I couldn't even find the initial declaration of wrath.) I don't think it is a bug (how often do we find bugs once a version is stable? For me it is pretty rare, though I didn't play v16 stable very much, and prior versions I often played trunk versions.)

I mean, my counterplay was to switch to Zin and win 15 runes but that probably doesn't work on non-diesel characters

[duvessa]

I don't think it is a bug (how often do we find bugs once a version is stable?

Pretty often, actually.

[amalloy]

I don't think it is a bug (how often do we find bugs once a version is stable?

Pretty often, actually.

Certainly more often than we discover that "put the player under penance for no reason" was an intentional change in a stable version.

[Hopeless]

I don't think it is a bug (how often do we find bugs once a version is stable?

Pretty often, actually.

Certainly more often than we discover that "put the player under penance for no reason" was an intentional change in a stable version.

Fine...it is a bug. Glad to know you aren't deliberately alienating players by making the game harder so that some people can be even more stoked about beating the game while the rest of us look on in amazed admiration...

[RBrandon]

Admiration accepted.