TehDruid wrote:Sprucery wrote:TehDruid wrote:FoBe should be durable enough to stairdance the guards with marginal effort, as well as anything that happens to come near the guards while you're stairdancing.
You don't think stairs-locking poses any problems here?
Well, I haven't had any bad experiences with that so far, I dive in and immediately go back up with 6-8 guards next to me. I've played after that guy that locks stairs was added to the game, but while I guess the possibility exists that this might happen, it's not guaranteed that one of them will spawn near the stairs. You do have a point though, I'll give you that. Still, you can probably kill the guy that locks the stairs after you've dealt with most guards, if he wanders while you're doing this. I guess he could actually be there and use that ability right at the start, leaving you to face a crapton of foes, but my experience has never been such. Idk.
My experience with other guys actually makes me think the contrary: with a bit of stairdance more dangerous foes from the quadrants will inevitably be attracted - things you most probably won't to follow you while going in a quadrant without haste nor teleport.
Siegurt wrote:Yeah, I use ?fear and some kind of summons (rod shadows/swarm, or bros if needed) to get blockers/swappable freindlies so I don't get stuck as I walk at normal speed towards one of the corridors.
Also for non-BEs metabolic englaciation is extra-good for Formacids.
I also find It's massively useful to have some sort of "do lots of passive damage to stuff" when fighting things in the V:5 corridors, rod of clouds is one of my favorites, along with lantern of fire, also being an axe user is helpful too, although not as much as loads of passive cloud damage. Also regen is super good (I spam the crap out of trog's hand in extended fights as a Be) Again summons/blockers of all sorts are useful here (Just keep them out of your clouds if you have both clouds and summons)
I also love summonings and clouds - actually everywhere but especially in V:5. Unfortunately, I only have 1 ?summonings, 1 box of beasts and no sack of spiders or rods. I do have a rod of clouds, but I'm also using a vamp glaive, which I think would be far more useful here like in any other place - but I keep the rod as a switch in dire situations.
I also have a bit of thowing, but only have 5 javelins of penetration, so I can't really rely on them to kill wardens or summoners near the stairs.
duvessa wrote:magic map -> go to the best terrain (which is probably in a quadrant) and dont make noise doing it
so the same as doing v:5 with any other character really, except you don't get to haste which is awful (because of that i am tempted to say slime is actually an easier 3rd rune for Fo much of the time, which i would never say about any other species)
stairdancing v:5 is not really something i aim to do unless my offense is shatter/tornado/cbl. yes, being on stairs is good, but not so good that "fight the entire level at once just so you can be on stairs" is generally a good idea
By no noise you mean no fighting, right? But how to deal with the noise monsters do (like shouts, fireball, shit like that).
For best terrain, what do you prefer? I tend to go either in the outside corridor, especially if I have some cloud - so I can kill quickly and cheaply a lot of shit - or into the quadrant with a form like a chessboard (I don't know the actual word to describe it), as it easily minimize the number of monsters able to group on me at same time. Is there a better place to run at 10 aut?
Anyway, I had no idea !res gives rcorr - I have 7 with me, so most probably I'll check at least how bad is slimes without rcorr - as I never gone inside if missing the resist.
edit: slimes without rcorr is easily doable, at least with a guy with high defences (38\30\16). I didn't need rcorr until the boss fight - where I test half of the fight without just for fun (I quaffed when Royal Jelly was half health after I got first -4). And in the aftermath I got heavily corroded anyway because a shitty acid blob appeared from behind when walls turned transparent