Lignification/ambrosia

[Sar]

I used ligni a couple of times vs. Gloorx because I thought it also will give me miasma immunity. It never did!

Also I think I used it vs. Eresh once or twice. Probably a dumb idea, but I didn't die.

[dowan]

I used ligni a couple of times vs. Gloorx because I thought it also will give me miasma immunity. It never did!

Also I think I used it vs. Eresh once or twice. Probably a dumb idea, but I didn't die.

Wow, you're braver than I am I guess. I suppose if you have cancellation on hand it's not that terrible of an idea, although the ev hit must also be pretty bad there.

[Sar]

Well, braver or dumber, anyway. And I didn't even think of having !cancellation ready (I don't think I even knew it cancelled forms back then). I just had healing and good damage output and figured out I could outheal the incoming damage with Haste and deal good damage myself with a holy weapon and might.

[TeshiAlair]

Lig is seriously my favorite consumable in the entire game, even beating out ambrosia. I love the idea of situationally useful items that reward strategic usage.

[dowan]

I only just recently got great use out of a potion of ambrosia, which I never used before. Confused is better than dead, after all. Especially when wielding an axe.

I guess I just need to consider using lig more often.

[byrel]

I was trying to figure out how ambrosia could save anybody, so I looked it up... and it gives HP regen now. 3-5 per turn. OK, that could have saved my life from poison at least twice this week. Live and learn...

[Pollen_Golem]

I was trying to figure out how ambrosia could save anybody, so I looked it up...

... did you think that ambrosia is just a potion of confusion, with a rename? I don't understand why you'd try to guess the properties of a potion with a proper name. Its description says what it does, and the healing was in the very version where potions of ambrosia were introduced. This isn't nethack.

[Sandman25]

I only just recently got great use out of a potion of ambrosia, which I never used before. Confused is better than dead, after all. Especially when wielding an axe.

I guess I just need to consider using lig more often.

Try to quaff it when you are confused by Orc Wizard anyway.

[njvack]

I was trying to figure out how ambrosia could save anybody, so I looked it up...

... did you think that ambrosia is just a potion of confusion, with a rename?

IIRC, for a while it was super magic regen plus confusion.

[bcadren]

This stuff about using consumables really should be moved to the advice forum and discussion returned to about the OP. That said. Ambrosia are great to quaff in hell, in order to not 5 when really low on HP (less likely the effects of hell will kill you). Using IN combat is probably GENERALLY too risky because enemies get confuse stabs on you.

[neil]

Using IN combat is probably GENERALLY too risky because enemies get confuse stabs on you.

Only players get confusion stabs. The only monster stabbing is 5/2 damage when a monster attacks a sleeping player (paralysis doesn't count), or when a Shadow attacks a player who can't see it.

Edit: suply mising leter

[byrel]

I was trying to figure out how ambrosia could save anybody, so I looked it up...

... did you think that ambrosia is just a potion of confusion, with a rename? I don't understand why you'd try to guess the properties of a potion with a proper name. Its description says what it does, and the healing was in the very version where potions of ambrosia were introduced. This isn't nethack.

No, I thought it gave MP regen. I didn't realize there was HP regen too.

[duvessa]

well the hp regen is crap, so

[dowan]

Crap isn't a number. "So" isn't a proper ending of a sentence either, at least not in this case. Also, you forgot to capitalize the W in well.

All in all, I give your post a D-. It's only the lack of a misplaced apostrophe that saved you from an F.

[Rast]

My impression is that they give roughly the same amount of HP as HW, only spread out over about 8 turns.

[le_nerd]

ligni+ambrosia are a great combination early game. Either would be too dangerous alone (at least if you wait until you are down to 20HP before !lignification, like I do) and together they safe the day.

Also lignification is useful against Mummies if(!) one has huge AOE damage but no other form of torment resistance. (Ru, Quazlal, lvl 9 spells)

[advil]

I've used ambrosia once for some emergency healing on a DD. I can't really remember why I needed it at the stage where you usually find ambrosia but it seemed important then.

[Sprucery]

My DDAK sure appreciated every potion of ambrosia that was found (splat on Zot:1).

I also remember a game where I was badly hurt and poisoned in a fight and had to hide behind a summon and remove my amulet of clarity to quaff ambrosia. A tight spot that one.

[byrel]

well the hp regen is crap, so

When you play a lot of -3, and -4 HP aptitude races, you get used to the idea that you might die from 1-2 points of poison in the early game. The rate of regen and total pool are both really low. If after the fight you can pop an ambrosia and get 3-5 HP per turn, that will outheal almost any poison.

[ZipZipskins]

Crap isn't a number. "So" isn't a proper ending of a sentence either, at least not in this case. Also, you forgot to capitalize the W in well.

All in all, I give your post a D-. It's only the lack of a misplaced apostrophe that saved you from an F.

WOW DUNKED

edit for content because: I think the whole point was that someone could definitely be forgiven for overlooking the hp regen on ambrosia