Demonspawn mutations guide?


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Post Friday, 31st July 2015, 07:06

Demonspawn mutations guide?

Is there a list of demonspawn mutations, and how many a demonspawn acquires?

I've been going by the Wiki page, which (as often) turns out to be a bad idea, since I've just gained a second "Tier 3" facet when it says I should get one in total.
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Post Friday, 31st July 2015, 08:22

Re: Demonspawn mutations guide?

I've got terrible news.

Your demonspawn is monstrous.

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Post Friday, 31st July 2015, 14:45

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Hope you were planning on going UC?

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Post Friday, 31st July 2015, 15:46

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You mean short blades?

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Post Friday, 31st July 2015, 16:18

Re: Demonspawn mutations guide?

I've played many demonspawn, and the wiki page is pretty accurate as far as I know. What tier 3 muations did you get?
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Post Friday, 31st July 2015, 17:52

Re: Demonspawn mutations guide?

Turns out I was misreading - one of them is Tier 2 (but shares the first two stages with the Tier 3 hellfire one). Cheers!

Also, in case anyone was wondering, demonspawn are cool and you should probably play one next.
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Post Saturday, 1st August 2015, 00:50

Re: Demonspawn mutations guide?

Yeah there is both an ice and fire facet for tiers 2&3. I personally think icemail is better than freeze, sucks that they're less common than the other tier 2s.
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Post Saturday, 1st August 2015, 23:31

Re: Demonspawn mutations guide?

The wiki page seemed out of date to me. I was playing Ds and got a "immune to corrosion" intrinsic that wasn't on the wiki's list.

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Post Sunday, 2nd August 2015, 00:26

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It wasn't yellow scales?
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Post Sunday, 2nd August 2015, 16:38

Re: Demonspawn mutations guide?

Damn, I though there was going to be a guide for how to build your demonspawn depending on the mutations you get. :?

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Post Sunday, 2nd August 2015, 23:52

Re: Demonspawn mutations guide?

the only mutations that ever change how to build your character are claws (because you switch to unarmed sometimes) and demonic guardian (because you quit)

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Post Monday, 3rd August 2015, 00:49

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Pollen_Golem wrote:Damn, I though there was going to be a guide for how to build your demonspawn depending on the mutations you get. :?


There is no guide but there is common sense.
Here is what I did:
1) Trained less Fighting for DsWz with Robustness. Saved XP went into spells.
2) Equipped FDA for Ds with rC+ mutation.
3) Hybridized as Ds with mana shield.
4) Laughed out loud when I got demonic guardian on something like D8. Balrug is really OP at this level :)

Also I guess it is possible to become a stabber when you get Nightstalker.
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Post Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 03:24

Re: Demonspawn mutations guide?

duvessa wrote:the only mutations that ever change how to build your character are claws (because you switch to unarmed sometimes) and demonic guardian (because you quit)

demonic guardian isn't that bad if you worship ru and sac love. Also, I would be a lot more likly to pick IDA if I had rF+++ from DS muts.
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Post Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 16:07

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WingedEspeon wrote:
duvessa wrote:the only mutations that ever change how to build your character are claws (because you switch to unarmed sometimes) and demonic guardian (because you quit)

demonic guardian isn't that bad if you worship ru and sac love. Also, I would be a lot more likly to pick IDA if I had rF+++ from DS muts.

Why is demonic guardian so bad or so hated ?

And what happens when you sac love and get this mut ? Do you always get a hostile pet ?
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Post Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 16:16

Re: Demonspawn mutations guide?

Demonic guardian is extremely annoying if your character has any kind of ranged attack.

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Post Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 16:39

Re: Demonspawn mutations guide?

I find it both useful and annoying fwiw, but then I play summoners with ranged attacks, so take that as you will.
Of course having smite targeting reduces the annoyance factor a lot.
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Post Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 16:50

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And for melee-only Guardian is ridicously strong. How about you get Maklebs 5* piety for free, every single fight, without training invo, without risk? Yes please.

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Post Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 22:07

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le_nerd wrote:And for melee-only Guardian is ridicously strong. How about you get Maklebs 5* piety for free, every single fight, without training invo, without risk? Yes please.

The whole point of Mak is healing on kills. The demons are an afterthought to help you threw early game.
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Post Thursday, 6th August 2015, 00:38

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WingedEspeon wrote:The whole point of Mak is healing on kills. The demons are an afterthought to help you threw early game.


Makhleb's demons wipe entire dungeon levels full of monsters by themselves! They are stupendously strong, so long as you have a secure way to manage the chance of getting a hostile one.

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Post Thursday, 6th August 2015, 03:55

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mopl wrote:Why is demonic guardian so bad or so hated ?
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