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[withdrawn] Remove or revamp scroll of vulnerability

PostPosted: Sunday, 26th July 2015, 18:32
by Chicken
Currently, a scroll of vulnerability is a fairly rare item, which if identified by reading, imposes a MR- that you probably wait out with a "5", and then you never read one again. It might as well be a type of random uselessness for all the effect it has. Do something...

* Kill it entirely?

* Make the MR- permanent, or permanent until dispelled with a potion of cancellation?

* Make it a sort of nifty tactic tradeoff scroll where you read it and suffer MR-, but your spells become several #s more potent as long as it lasts?

* Make it so that when you look at it on the ground, it looks like some other scroll chosen at random, like identify or something, and the second you pick it up it shifts to reveal its true form and you're hit with the MR- right then and there?

I don't care which... right now it's a useless feature and I think any of these would make it more interesting.

Edit: OK, it sounds like some folks think this thing is useful as it is, so I'll scrap this idea.

Re: Remove or revamp scroll of vulnerability

PostPosted: Sunday, 26th July 2015, 18:39
by Sprucery
Do you realize that it halves the MR of everything in LOS? It is highly situational, but occasionally very useful.

Re: Remove or revamp scroll of vulnerability

PostPosted: Sunday, 26th July 2015, 18:47
by gammafunk
Chicken wrote:Make it a sort of nifty tactic tradeoff scroll where you read it and suffer MR-, but your spells become several #s more potent as long as it lasts?

It does this already, you just have to be casting a hex.

Re: Remove or revamp scroll of vulnerability

PostPosted: Sunday, 26th July 2015, 18:50
by xentronium
If you're using hexes or wands, this scroll is your friend.

Re: [withdrawn] Remove or revamp scroll of vulnerability

PostPosted: Sunday, 26th July 2015, 22:49
by CanOfWorms
Back when TRJ didn't spill jellies on polymorph, a funny strategy for defeating it was reading one of these and blasting it 2-3 times with a wand of polymorph (at 18 Evo) to transform it into a titan or something. I think one person even used Step From Time and had TRJ kill itself on the slime walls.

You can still do it nowadays but TRJ now spills jellies you have to kill on polymorph.

Re: [withdrawn] Remove or revamp scroll of vulnerability

PostPosted: Thursday, 15th October 2015, 23:31
by Pollen_Golem
At first I was like, "Wiglaf's kicking my ass", and then I was like:
  Code:
 As you read the scroll of vulnerability, it crumbles to dust.
_Magic quickly surges around you. Wiglaf misses you.
_Wiglaf easily resists. This wand has 2 charges left. You block Wiglaf's attack.
_Wiglaf easily resists. This wand has 9 charges left.
 Wiglaf easily resists. This wand has 8 charges left.
 Wiglaf hits you with a war axe!
_* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
 Wiglaf easily resists. This wand has 7 charges left.
 Wiglaf prays in loud words.
_Wiglaf seems to grow stronger.
_Wiglaf easily resists. This wand has 6 charges left. Wiglaf barely misses you.
_Wiglaf easily resists. This wand has 1 charge left. Wiglaf misses you.
_Wiglaf easily resists. This wand has 0 charges left.
_Wiglaf appears confused. This wand has 5 charges left.
 You catch the helpless Wiglaf completely off-guard!
 You skewer Wiglaf like a kebab!!! There is a sudden explosion of sparks!
_Wiglaf is heavily wounded.
 You catch the helpless Wiglaf completely off-guard!
 You spit Wiglaf like a pig!!!
_Wiglaf is almost dead.
 You strike the helpless Wiglaf from behind!
 You perforate Wiglaf like a sieve!!!
 You kill Wiglaf!
 Your Evocations skill increases to level 11!

Among other things, confusion makes his shield useless.

Re: [withdrawn] Remove or revamp scroll of vulnerability

PostPosted: Friday, 16th October 2015, 09:42
by daggaz
Jeez tho... even with the scroll it took 8 attempts. I think I would have read a scroll of teleport instead and tried again while he was at the edge of LoS or something.