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Curio wrote:
mageykun wrote:Wands of healing do not cure status ailments. Most significantly, confusion. 0_0

Yeah, about that. Maybe it's wise to replace icon on a wand from that of "potion of healing" with "heal wounds"(bigger blue cross) - it will be more intuitive for new players.

Good idea.

galehar wrote:
Curio wrote:
mageykun wrote:Wands of healing do not cure status ailments. Most significantly, confusion. 0_0

Yeah, about that. Maybe it's wise to replace icon on a wand from that of "potion of healing" with "heal wounds"(bigger blue cross) - it will be more intuitive for new players.

Good idea.

In this case. Here it is

A single failure from a crystal ball of energy can take your intelligence from 23 to 10. That's nasty.

If you have an Amulet of Stasis, a teleport trap makes a great stash location if you worship Jiyva.

Actually, it is extremely useful. When Jiyva does an occasional off-level item destruction, it chooses from one from ALL of the current floor trash in existence. So unless you're methodically cleansing each floor of the dungeon, there should be more than plenty of junk to distract Jiyva from nailing your stash often, if at all. I managed to collect seven runes (and then died going for more) while having that stash and if Jiyva destroyed anything from it, it was rare enough that I never noticed and managed to hang onto tons of books, scrolls, potions, and food.

I get that. And I'm stating that the stash was hit by off-level destruction so infrequently over the course of 92253 turns that I'm not ever sure it was ever touched, so therefore it is actually quite useful.

Tomb is hard.

I learned that you can read manuals while in a Trog induced rage. Bonus points because it was a manual of translocations.

Curio wrote:
mageykun wrote:Wands of healing do not cure status ailments. Most significantly, confusion. 0_0

Yeah, about that. Maybe it's wise to replace icon on a wand from that of "potion of healing" with "heal wounds"(bigger blue cross) - it will be more intuitive for new players.

Good suggestion - maybe put it on the wiki?

If your artificer is aiming to get a rod from a scroll of acquirement, remember that rods fall under the staves category, not wands.

*sigh*

danr wrote:
Curio wrote:
mageykun wrote:Wands of healing do not cure status ailments. Most significantly, confusion. 0_0

Yeah, about that. Maybe it's wise to replace icon on a wand from that of "potion of healing" with "heal wounds"(bigger blue cross) - it will be more intuitive for new players.

Good suggestion - maybe put it on the wiki?

He did better. He edited the icon and posted it on mantis. Will be in the game soon.

When you are Flying continuously, Apportation may not be the best spell to use. Especially when you are in the Swamp. Especially when you about to get the rune.

joellercoaster wrote:Tomb is hard.

..but Necromutation makes it much less of a grind!

Clicking on the message log opens it up. Useful if you didn't manage to catch something crucial during a pitched battle.

(I can't believe I only found out about that today... And I've had the game for days.)

If you move downstairs and can see three things who can Smite, your very next move* should be to go up again, because you will be smitten. By all of them.

*assuming you can survive a turn in LOS, obviously.

joellercoaster wrote:Tomb is hard.

Gave that some proper emphasis.

slyker wrote:I learned that you can read manuals while in a Trog induced rage. Bonus points because it was a manual of translocations.

Not in trunk / 0.8x going forward.

Reported it a while back (Bug link).

Ogres can be killed with stones in a pinch. You know, so long as you're faster than they are.

There is no guarantee that the Pan Lord on Hellion Island can't fly :oops:

Teleportation: not always a good idea.

You can get killed by a one-headed hydra before you manage to cut off that last pesky head.

(my own stupidity for fighting the darn thing while I had 1hp left, rather than using a potion, of course)

Reliable Summons and Silence make Tomb much, much easier. Gather army, cast Silence, go down stairs. Pull a couple of Mummies upstairs for Horrible Things (preferably red) to devour. Snigger at impotently gesturing, mouthing undead. Rest, repeat.

ghend wrote:Teleportation: not always a good idea.

Take a good, hard look at that treasure trove.

cat + keyboard = near death experience

(From another post but it belongs here.)

Unlike some Roguelikes, Crawl can happily kill even the most super-powered characters if you don't pay attention. Having a couple of beers and settling in to enjoy the last rune was not the smartest thing I ever did.

joellercoaster wrote:(From another post but it belongs here.)

Unlike some Roguelikes, Crawl can happily kill even the most super-powered characters if you don't pay attention. Having a couple of beers and settling in to enjoy the last rune was not the smartest thing I ever did.

Over-confidence is the No.1 cause of death among adventurers.

Also:

If you are in the habit of using a transformation that is much stronger than your normal shape, watch what you pick up. Remember your old carrying capacity, and stick to that.

Having the transformation end and suddenly and be burdened (or worse, overloaded) at the wrong time can be fatal

If you just used your last teleport scroll to get away from Mennas, you should probably go up a level and try to find more. No, don't search for the down stairs. He's much faster than you and with no way to escape him you will die. Just lost a promising DeBe that way.

Somewhat related: if you try to berserk to reach an escape route, it will run out in two turns and you'll get minced.

Almost all Transmuter ghosts can spam Evaporate for Mephitic Clouds, have rPois, and have pretty good unarmed to boot. If you see one without rPois or clarity yourself, read that teleport scroll on turn 1.

In other news, I apologize for all the SETm ghosts on CDO :oops:

njvack wrote:Almost all Transmuter ghosts can spam Evaporate for Mephitic Clouds, have rPois, and have pretty good unarmed to boot. If you see one without rPois or clarity yourself, read that teleport scroll on turn 1.

In other news, I apologize for all the SETm ghosts on CDO

^___ This!

Turns out my couple dozens of draconian transmuters that didn't make it to level 7 are just waiting to puke all over my new characters.

Uniques and ghosts can spawn on the same level. Simple stuff.

Two or more ghosts can spawn on the same level. - This can be bad.

sigfried von murdock wrote:Two or more ghosts can spawn on the same level. - This can be bad.

Unless things have changed in trunk, you won't see multiple ghosts on a level until you get to a certain depth (I believe it's D:7). But one unreasonable ghost can still ruin your day...

It's very much worth it to stash your legendary/ornate deck of wonders for when you need that high power-level Helix card to remove bad mutations without removing all of them. Sure, there's still a chance you'd just lose a random mutation or you'd just gain another random mutation -- especially for ornate decks -- but there's still a high chance that you'd just lose that pesky mutation you just hate to have. And there's also a good chance that you'd gain another good mutation out of it.

Bottom-line: Spam plain -- and maybe ornate -- decks of wonders for experience. Save legendary decks for mutations.

The one game you forget to inscribe !f and =f on your dagger, you will end up accidentally chucking it at a jelly when you run out of rocks. -_-'

I didn't know about !f. Your sacrifice has not gone in vain.

That's pretty depressing, but if it helps, I just threw a randart dagger at a shark.

joellercoaster wrote:That's pretty depressing, but if it helps, I just threw a randart dagger at a shark.

You can get that back in several ways, I believe.

My post:
Hubris will get the best of you if you let it.
I was having the best game ever, then ran into Pikel and figured I could take him, but his whip of electrocution did me in.

Stormfox wrote:
sigfried von murdock wrote:Two or more ghosts can spawn on the same level. - This can be bad.

Unless things have changed in trunk, you won't see multiple ghosts on a level until you get to a certain depth (I believe it's D:7). But one unreasonable ghost can still ruin your day...

I saw two ghosts on D5-D6, I doubt it was seven but you may be right. Still unusual things happen in the game. Maybe not anything as crazy as Boris on D6 but I have come across Obsidian Axes on D3 and even a titan in the orcish mines= P

The spider's nest is literally impossible. You have died there a dozen times with a dozen different builds you thought were godlike and unstoppable... and really should stop trying.

snow wrote:The spider's nest is literally impossible. You have died there a dozen times with a dozen different builds you thought were godlike and unstoppable... and really should stop trying.

(Never died there)
I have killed the spider nest with a Spriggan Zerker, and a Draconian Monk Who used a large shield and Swamp Dragon Armour while using unarmed.

Certainly several classes and builds are not well off there, but what seems to be getting you?

Two or more ghosts can spawn on the same level. - This can be bad.

I had two ultra powerful ghosts on zot 5 a game or so ago. One was a godlike necromancer and the other a lvl27 MdFi. Luckily, I just spammed dispel undead. :lol:

Glad I was using another necromancer. Although that MdFi did manage to claw his way through half my undead army, including dragons, and deplete my all my mp. Really, really glad I was a necromancer.

Also, Francis can cast raise undead. Do NOT summon corpses from kiku in his LOS.

sigfried von murdock wrote:Certainly several classes and builds are not well off there, but what seems to be getting you?

I think I'm one from five attempts on the Spiders' Nest... I've never died there but it's certainly really hard to clear at the levels I've been finding it, and mostly I end up having to run for it. The SEEE who cleared it nearly didn't, and assorted DDNes, SETms and SpArs have all been beaten back by that second big wave of spiders.

Back on-topic for just a second... today's lesson is that Felids make pretty interesting spellcasters! I rolled one at random and, after getting him (and, let us face it, a few more like him) killed, now I'm kinda hooked.

Foxfire is the ultimate in summonings, especially when you summon an army of red wasps. Nothing else in the game quite compares.

It was nice not fighting with you, Asmodeus.

If you are wearing a ring of teleportation, scrolls of teleportation will not work. ("You feel strangely stable.")

What is that, some sort of licensing dispute?

If an enslaved killer bee larva kills something, it will get promoted to adult killer bee.

A level 1 character with 27 stabs can 1 hit KO the royal jelly.

God bless wizmode. 0u0

Don't leave player ghosts with Summon Scorpions

Also: Escape hatches are called that for a reason!

Crystal ball of energy is awesome with Spirit and maxed out Evocations. As long as you watch your MP, you practically have semi-reliable regenerating shield. Semi-reliable because there is still that really small chance that you drain you remaining MP or drain your Int. All in all, though the crystal ball has its uses.

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