Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?


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Abyss Ambulator

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Post Thursday, 16th July 2015, 20:01

Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

Had a decent octopode going, and took an invisible hit. Started walking away, and got hit every single step I took. Read a scroll of teleport and kept on walking, got slaughtered as I went. (no fog, no fear).
It literally hit me every single step. Did they get rid of batty movement AND get a massive speed bonus? That kind of sucked...
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Shoals Surfer

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Post Thursday, 16th July 2015, 20:07

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

they definitely still have batty movement

idk about the rest though
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Post Thursday, 16th July 2015, 20:13

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

I got robbed, man...

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Post Thursday, 16th July 2015, 20:19

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

batty movement works based on player actions and invis monsters that have see invis will have pretty good accuracy against players without see invis

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Post Thursday, 16th July 2015, 20:21

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

Yeah but usually if you just start walking away, it will blink over a few steps off within a turn or three. As well, it gets to move AND hit everytime I get a move? It didnt seem normal by any means, I usually dont die to these things like that.

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Post Thursday, 16th July 2015, 21:37

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

Unseen horrors are ultra ultra dangerous to octopodes since they have no AC and your EV gets divided by 3 against invisible enemies. Unseen horrors don't do a lot of damage per hit but hit very fast, which makes AC much better against them, so races with some AC don't have nearly as much trouble.

Basically, if an unseen horror hits you pre-lair when you're an octopode, 90% of the time you need to read tele immediately.
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Post Thursday, 16th July 2015, 21:45

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

Yeah sure, what was surprising me about all of this was that it was hitting me every single turn I moved. Ive never seen that behavior before, on any character.
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Post Thursday, 16th July 2015, 22:52

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

sometimes batty monsters act weird like every now and then a bat will decide to be extra annoying and stay out of melee range for like 10 turns. And no, I wasn't mistaking it for a butterfly
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Post Friday, 17th July 2015, 00:40

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

daggaz wrote:Yeah sure, what was surprising me about all of this was that it was hitting me every single turn I moved. Ive never seen that behavior before, on any character.

It's pretty typical of unseen horrors, in my experience.
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Post Friday, 17th July 2015, 01:54

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

Yeah, after all these years of playing, I still cringe at the thought of running into an early unseen horror
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Post Friday, 17th July 2015, 08:17

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

it could have been 2 as well

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Post Friday, 17th July 2015, 12:52

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

When I was still trying to win an OP, unseen horrors were the enemy I dreaded most. If you run into one before you have sinv, you gotta tele immediately.

In my experience, they usually do hit you every turn, that doesn't seem unusual to me. They are bastards though.

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Post Wednesday, 22nd July 2015, 00:48

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

Those who worship the one true god can kill unseen horrors in one slouch, as they're fast monsters with low hp.

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Post Wednesday, 22nd July 2015, 01:01

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

those who worship the actual best god can see unseen horrors in exchange for 2 mp

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Post Wednesday, 22nd July 2015, 12:34

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

Also Ash gives SInv and Ru can illuminate horrors that hurt you, and Makhleb can summon demons w/ SInv . . .

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Post Wednesday, 22nd July 2015, 17:06

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

The actual best god is Corridor. Those who worship him can kill UH with little trouble.

Also axes are a thing.

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Post Wednesday, 22nd July 2015, 17:08

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

Or just play the best race and never have trouble...
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Post Wednesday, 22nd July 2015, 18:26

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

The only way to truly win Crawl is to not play at all.
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Post Wednesday, 22nd July 2015, 18:52

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

But then it is Crawl that wins...

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Post Wednesday, 22nd July 2015, 19:45

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

Ahh, but was is the sound of one computer in the forest? You can't eat a false cake with no spoon. Or can you? Everything is made of waves, even Crawl.
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Post Thursday, 23rd July 2015, 08:34

Re: Did unseen horrors get seriously upgraded?

nobody, not even the rain, has such small hands

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