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So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Thursday, 4th June 2015, 19:28by Oddysee
I was in Orc:3 and Oka gifted me a nice demon Whip of Draining. I also have 2 scrolls of brand weapon. I don't know whether to keep the draining brand or try and get a flat damage brand on it. Thoughts anyone?
I should probably also mention I'm using a +2 vampiric eveningstar at the moment.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Thursday, 4th June 2015, 19:32by Sprucery
It does not really matter, as that vamp eveningstar is your endgame weapon. By all means rebrand the whip, if you want to get a secondary weapon for draining immune monsters.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Thursday, 4th June 2015, 19:43by tasonir
Drop the whip on the ground, keep crushing your enemies and healing at the same time.
If you do extended and vamp stops working, then you can use your scrolls to rebrand the eveningstar.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Thursday, 4th June 2015, 20:13by xentronium
I'd brand the whip hoping to get antimagic.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Thursday, 4th June 2015, 20:19by Oddysee
Ok, that's good enough for me. I'll stick with the eveningstar, thanks guys.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Thursday, 4th June 2015, 20:36by wheals
xentronium wrote:I'd brand the whip hoping to get antimagic.
You'll be hoping that for a long time.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Thursday, 4th June 2015, 20:49by Oddysee
Well, I'm an idiot. I was going to enchant up the eveningstar and ended up using the wrong scroll and rebranded it instead. It got the flaming brand, I then used the other brand scroll I had, hoping to get vamp back but it was freezing. So, the question is, do I still use the eveningstar, go with the whip or use the vamp morningstar I have back at my stash?
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Thursday, 4th June 2015, 21:46by Siegurt
Well, freezing is pretty good, a freezing eveningstar does more damage by a hefty margin than a vamp morningstar, but vamp keeps your health up, so it's not as cut and dried as all that.
I'd keep both on hand, and use freezing eveningstar when I wanted to kill things fast, and the vamp morningstar when I was slogging through piles of things that did some damage to me (Naturally switching takes food, so don't do it super frequently.)
FWIW brand weapon can't grant antimagic (Or holy or distortion or pain) none of the special god-gift brands can be applied by branding scrolls.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Thursday, 4th June 2015, 23:01by Rast
At this point, I'd use the vamp morningstar against just about everything until zot:5.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Friday, 5th June 2015, 03:07by XuaXua
Rast wrote:At this point, I'd use the vamp morningstar against just about everything until zot:5.
He can't because he accidentally rebranded it.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Friday, 5th June 2015, 03:23by rockygargoyle
XuaXua wrote:Rast wrote:At this point, I'd use the vamp morningstar against just about everything until zot:5.
He can't because he accidentally rebranded it.
He rebranded the eveningstar, not the morningstar.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Friday, 5th June 2015, 03:50by and into
Yeah, honestly, I'd probably still use the vamp morningstar. That will carry you to three runes. Morningstar is a good enough base weapon and vampiric is just that good as a brand. Use the eveningstar or d. whip in any areas that are filled with stuff unaffected by vamp brand, of course.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Friday, 5th June 2015, 14:06by celem
Hah yeah i've done that (accidental rebranding).
On the plus side, as mentioned, the morningstar is an ok base type, so use that vamp. And your eveningstar is now a perfect OoF smasher. I'd probably spread whatever ?EW you have/get across both of them.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Friday, 5th June 2015, 14:18by GlassGo
celem wrote:And your eveningstar is now a perfect OoF smasher.
That's what I call "a perfect OoF smasher".
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Inventory:
Hand weapons
s - the +8 giant spiked club of Eternal War (weapon) {freeze, rC+ Dex+4}
(You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
It affects your dexterity (+4).
It protects you from cold.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Friday, 5th June 2015, 19:13by Rast
celem wrote:Hah yeah i've done that (accidental rebranding).
On the plus side, as mentioned, the morningstar is an ok base type, so use that vamp. And your eveningstar is now a perfect OoF smasher. I'd probably spread whatever ?EW you have/get across both of them.
I'd put them all on the vamp morningstar now, but try to save a few !might for oofs
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Friday, 5th June 2015, 19:37by pickled_heretic
only partially relevant to the current topic but vorpal actually does more damage against OoF than freezing right?
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Friday, 5th June 2015, 19:54by Rast
The bot says oofs have rC, so probably yes.
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Friday, 5th June 2015, 20:41by and into
According to some quick fsims, yes, vorpal seems to do more damage to OoF than freezing, but they are very close. (I think freezing just barely edged out vorpal against OoFs until vorpal got a damage buff several versions ago, but I'm not 100% sure.)
Re: So I got a Demon Whip of Draining
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Friday, 5th June 2015, 21:18by Sar
Vorpal used to do exact same damage flaming/freezing did vs. rF+/rC+ targets respectively.