The Tavern

Greetings;

I have played a number of times over the years and with a few different versions of CRAWL, and this is the first time this has happened to me.

i am now playing version 14.1 (yes i know....)

I am playing an OCD game where i leave nothing around on the dungeon floors. I have stashed most every nifty bit in the temple.

and stuff is slowing disappering. I had a full set of staffs, with lots of duplicates and they have all gone missing except 2. My randart weapons are 90% gone.
No slime has come down the stair, as there are not "eatten" trails through the piles of loot.

Is this now part of the game, has it always been and i have never noticed, and lets not touch the bit about my sanity with leaving nothing laying around.

stillcen

Sounds strange. What god are you worshipping? What does it say when you type 'ctrl-f staff'?

I believe there is supposed to be a limit on the number of items that can be strewn about a single floor of the dungeon. I think it's something like a thousand or maybe a few thousand. (and I believe stacks (e.g. 300 arrows) count as one item)

I would like to touch your sanity, if only you had any...

I have heard this floor limit declaration as well.

Please post a screenshot and dump a character log I want to see how bad it is.

'Pollard' is a centure hunter of Zin, He worshiped TSO untill he got his chance to bless his demon trident.

I just might do a character dump at the end....

I would do a screen shot, but with all the disappearing it would not do the work justice.

The 'Temple' is the oblonge temple with water around it, with the alters in side of the single oblonge structure.
My Randart weapons were laid out one to a space and were 3 tiles deep and ran the lenght of the ground.
I have and to make second stacks of some types of ammo as 999 is the max per stack.
Pollard has cleared (and clean it is);
the dungeon-
Depths-
Vaults-
Orc-
Elf-
Lair-
Snake-
Shoals-
crypts-
and 11 floors of the 4 planes of hell, and of course the Vestuble.
Done 52 plunges into the Abyss

and am on turn

699.433

and no i have not tried to "pickup" in the Abyss.


stillcen

enjoy


And Thank you very very much for the floor limit thing. I will spread some things down to my secondary stash in Blade(also cleard)

When an item is dropped, if there are more than about 2000 items on the level, some of them will be destroyed. Each +0 non-artefact weapon and ammunition stack that is outside of the player's LOS has a 15% chance of destruction. If and only if no +0 non-artefact weapons or ammo are destroyed, a second iteration will be performed where every item outside of the player's LOS has a 15% chance of destruction, unless the item is the Orb, a rune, or food*. Unrandarts destroyed this way can generate again in Abyss; you can use this to reset Wyrmbane's enchantment.
This will also print "Too many items on level, removing some." when it happens.

*Yes, really.

I wonder what happens if there are more than 2000 pieces of food on a level.

The game will simply refuse to add an item to the level if it would exceed the item limit and the aforementioned culling fails to destroy any.

My brain is working hard to think of why food would get the exception here (it's mentioned in two separate comments, so someone thought hard about it once) and... huh. I guess maybe if you're grinding enough items to trigger this limit, you're probably going to be pretty hungry?



this is my favorite trick ever

Potions of cure mutation and haste can generate in stacks. Potions of restore abilities cannot.

Well, that one is obviously for balance reasons.

You may want to check each stack manually to see if the item is still there. I once lost a scroll of brand weapon in elf3, ctrl-F wouldn't find it, but it was where I left it.

this is what Nemelex reform does to people