items disappearing from temple stash


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Mines Malingerer

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Post Monday, 9th February 2015, 08:28

items disappearing from temple stash

Greetings;

I have played a number of times over the years and with a few different versions of CRAWL, and this is the first time this has happened to me.

i am now playing version 14.1 (yes i know....)

I am playing an OCD game where i leave nothing around on the dungeon floors. I have stashed most every nifty bit in the temple.

and stuff is slowing disappering. I had a full set of staffs, with lots of duplicates and they have all gone missing except 2. My randart weapons are 90% gone.
No slime has come down the stair, as there are not "eatten" trails through the piles of loot.

Is this now part of the game, has it always been and i have never noticed, and lets not touch the bit about my sanity with leaving nothing laying around.

stillcen
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Post Monday, 9th February 2015, 08:31

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

Sounds strange. What god are you worshipping? What does it say when you type 'ctrl-f staff'?
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Post Monday, 9th February 2015, 11:52

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

I believe there is supposed to be a limit on the number of items that can be strewn about a single floor of the dungeon. I think it's something like a thousand or maybe a few thousand. (and I believe stacks (e.g. 300 arrows) count as one item)

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Post Monday, 9th February 2015, 13:46

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

I would like to touch your sanity, if only you had any...
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Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Monday, 9th February 2015, 14:28

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

Hurkyl wrote:I believe there is supposed to be a limit on the number of items that can be strewn about a single floor of the dungeon. I think it's something like a thousand or maybe a few thousand. (and I believe stacks (e.g. 300 arrows) count as one item)


I have heard this floor limit declaration as well.
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Post Monday, 9th February 2015, 14:50

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

Please post a screenshot and dump a character log I want to see how bad it is.

Mines Malingerer

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Post Tuesday, 10th February 2015, 00:06

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

'Pollard' is a centure hunter of Zin, He worshiped TSO untill he got his chance to bless his demon trident.

I just might do a character dump at the end....

I would do a screen shot, but with all the disappearing it would not do the work justice.

The 'Temple' is the oblonge temple with water around it, with the alters in side of the single oblonge structure.
My Randart weapons were laid out one to a space and were 3 tiles deep and ran the lenght of the ground.
I have and to make second stacks of some types of ammo as 999 is the max per stack.
Pollard has cleared (and clean it is);
the dungeon-
Depths-
Vaults-
Orc-
Elf-
Lair-
Snake-
Shoals-
crypts-
and 11 floors of the 4 planes of hell, and of course the Vestuble.
Done 52 plunges into the Abyss

and am on turn

699.433

and no i have not tried to "pickup" in the Abyss.


stillcen

enjoy


And Thank you very very much for the floor limit thing. I will spread some things down to my secondary stash in Blade(also cleard)

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Post Tuesday, 10th February 2015, 01:27

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

When an item is dropped, if there are more than about 2000 items on the level, some of them will be destroyed. Each +0 non-artefact weapon and ammunition stack that is outside of the player's LOS has a 15% chance of destruction. If and only if no +0 non-artefact weapons or ammo are destroyed, a second iteration will be performed where every item outside of the player's LOS has a 15% chance of destruction, unless the item is the Orb, a rune, or food*. Unrandarts destroyed this way can generate again in Abyss; you can use this to reset Wyrmbane's enchantment.
This will also print "Too many items on level, removing some." when it happens.

*Yes, really.

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Post Tuesday, 10th February 2015, 03:04

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

duvessa wrote:or food

I wonder what happens if there are more than 2000 pieces of food on a level.

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Post Tuesday, 10th February 2015, 03:15

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

The game will simply refuse to add an item to the level if it would exceed the item limit and the aforementioned culling fails to destroy any.
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Post Tuesday, 10th February 2015, 03:25

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

My brain is working hard to think of why food would get the exception here (it's mentioned in two separate comments, so someone thought hard about it once) and... huh. I guess maybe if you're grinding enough items to trigger this limit, you're probably going to be pretty hungry?

duvessa wrote:you can use this to reset Wyrmbane's enchantment


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Post Tuesday, 10th February 2015, 03:38

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

njvack wrote:My brain is working hard to think of why food would get the exception here (it's mentioned in two separate comments, so someone thought hard about it once) and... huh. I guess maybe if you're grinding enough items to trigger this limit, you're probably going to be pretty hungry?
Potions of cure mutation and haste can generate in stacks. Potions of restore abilities cannot.

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Post Tuesday, 10th February 2015, 04:14

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

duvessa wrote:Potions of cure mutation and haste can generate in stacks. Potions of restore abilities cannot.

Well, that one is obviously for balance reasons.
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Post Tuesday, 10th February 2015, 04:20

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

You may want to check each stack manually to see if the item is still there. I once lost a scroll of brand weapon in elf3, ctrl-F wouldn't find it, but it was where I left it.
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Post Tuesday, 10th February 2015, 06:58

Re: items disappearing from temple stash

this is what Nemelex reform does to people

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