The 'Questions too small to need their own thread' thread

[galehar]

According to this: http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php? ... zari+wrath

Ashenzari's wrath ends after you have gained 2 XLs. Can you ever get rid of it at XL 26 and 27?

Sure you can. It ends when you've gained 2XLs worth of experience points, and you still gain them after XL 27.

[sir_laser]

Should rN+++ and Statue Form's "halves torment damage" not stack together? I just got tormented with both and had 35% of my max HP dealt as damage.

Just tried in wizmode, I took 17%. Maybe you got tormented twice in the same turn.

I checked the dump and that is indeed what happened, plus a mummy hit me for ~ 6 damage so the end result was less than 287*(1-0.17)*(1-0.17). Thanks!

[sir_laser]

Three questions:
How much noise does Projected Noise create at your location?
How often to ranged weapons with brands get generated? What about acquired?

[BlackSheep]

How much noise does Projected Noise create at your location?

Very little. It looks like it creates a noise of magnitude 30 at the target (for reference, that's the same noise as Shatter), but only 1 at your location.

[Grimm]

Does cFly help you deal with and/or minimize the damage from the raging winds that surround the diamond obelisk?

[sir_laser]

IMHO since Airstrike does 50% more damage to flying/lev creatures (not discriminating between these two states) I imagine the tornado-like effect of the diamond obelisk would actually deal more damage while you're flying/levitating, with no regard to whether you're flying or levitating.

[cerebovssquire]

It automatically levitates you... Tornado does that. Tornado isn't Airstrike either.

[tormodpwns]

Playing a NaMo, sitting in the Lair at level 12. I'm following Xom and I have an amazing - AMAZING - mutation set. Only a couple of bad mutations, and about 8 good mutations. I was originally going to do my standard Xom --> Jiyva swap, but I don't want to lose these mutations (also the Jiyva altar might not be generated in Lair). I'm thinking about just abandoning Xom right here, right now. I know convention says to take up Chei, and I found a +1 GDA in a lab that could use the extra Strength, but last time I played a NaMo^Chei I had a horrible experience because I was out of TP and I obviously couldn't run away. Any suggestions for deity choice?

[cerebovssquire]

nemelex xobeh

[Blade]

The only convention that says to take Chei on Na is tavern convention. Nemelex is indeed very good; other options include Makhleb, Oka, Kiku, etc.

[Mankeli]

How much damage from torment does a non-undead statueformed kiku follower with 200 piety and rN+++ take? In other words, does statueform's rTorment stack with kiku protection and rN?

[pratamawirya]

Playing a NaMo, sitting in the Lair at level 12. I'm following Xom and I have an amazing - AMAZING - mutation set. Only a couple of bad mutations, and about 8 good mutations. I was originally going to do my standard Xom --> Jiyva swap, but I don't want to lose these mutations (also the Jiyva altar might not be generated in Lair). I'm thinking about just abandoning Xom right here, right now. I know convention says to take up Chei, and I found a +1 GDA in a lab that could use the extra Strength, but last time I played a NaMo^Chei I had a horrible experience because I was out of TP and I obviously couldn't run away. Any suggestions for deity choice?

I'd probably take Chei if it was a NaMo with Blade Hands and/or Statue Form. But if it was just an ordinary bare-handed monk....

[cerebovssquire]

I'd still take Nemelex, mainly because he would be a great way to just bypass the "loss" in piety you have by switching so late - you'll get high piety in no time with all the stuff lying around.
And Chei may be fun but he is still terribad, especially if your character has absolutely no INT problems.

[Sphara]

Wiki says (page Zot:5) that an ancient lich can summon a greater mummy. Is this accurate? I've never ever seen it happen.

[Kate]

It cannot (and I'm pretty sure that's never been possible, at least not for as long as I've played Crawl). Summon Undead can summon these things.

[cerebovssquire]

Could someone wizmode me a normal-sized character with 27 Armour, 27 Dodging, 11 dex and GDA and tell me what his EV is? I don't currently have any local crawl so I can't check quickly.

[Grimm]

MiBe in vanilla GDA, Armour and Dodging at 27. In trunk.

[XuaXua]

Anyone else think the "Mask of the Dragon" artefact should be able to be worn by Draconians?

[Grimm]

Hell yes.

[Grimm]

That's how quickly the devs respond to player requests.

[Nelagend]

I just vorpalized a giant spiked club. Later on if I switch to TSO, will his blessing overwrite crushing, or do I need to bless a different GSC then?

[Blade]

God blessings overwrite previous brands.

[XuaXua]

It already is...

Didn't have the gold at the time to buy it, and then died before I could gather enough; strangely, I really could have used that SINV.

[ddubois]

My level 12 Spriggan wizard with 5 STR just found the +7 fire dragon armour of Claustrophobia {+Lev rF++ rC-}, Armor: 8, Evasion: -3, weight 35.0 aum.

Should I try to incorporate it into my gear somehow (what skill then?), or sigh and stick is in the temple?

[KoboldLord]

That fire dragon armor is actually worse than normal fully-enchanted fire dragon armor. You can't finish enchanting it, +Lev is almost entirely useless, and rF++ and rC- come standard.

As a general rule, it's never a good idea to accept armor with an EV penalty on a spriggan. They get enormous bonuses to EV and extra penalties for heavy armor, so a trade that's fair with a human-sized character isn't even worth considering.

[Grimm]

Entered this volcano and wonder if I'm missing something. Random tele doesn't take me out of the central chamber. Is the joke that the other chambers close irreversibly after you pick one of them?

[cerebovssquire]

You can enter multiple ones, but if you spend too much time in one you can't enter the others (I think the collapsing walls are attatched to a timer).

[varsovie]

This volcano is made this way. Usually you have time for one or two loot (or you have apportation/passwall).

I really hate volcanos when I play naga of Chei.

[Grimm]

Talk about spoilery.

[Jeremiah]

If you are a demonspawn in lich form, when you get hit by a holy attack, do you take even more damage because you are both demonic and undead, or do you just take what you would normally take as a Ds?

[Kate]

Talk about spoilery.

It's pretty obvious what's going on from the messages, is it not? ("The volcano erupts! Nearby, a roof collapses.")

[XuaXua]

QUESTION

I am playing a draconian. I drop all my equipment on the ground and can spit acid.
I am still able to train Evocations.
Does this mean that Evocations trains my ability to breathe acid?

[Grimm]

Talk about spoilery.

It's pretty obvious what's going on from the messages, is it not? ("The volcano erupts! Nearby, a roof collapses.")

I'd better start reading the messages!

[cerebovssquire]

QUESTION

I am playing a draconian. I drop all my equipment on the ground and can spit acid.
I am still able to train Evocations.
Does this mean that Evocations trains my ability to breathe acid?

No. I am wearing a robe and training Armour right now, too. Apparently something has changed. I hope it's a feature and not a bug. It'll be in the trunk commits.

[BlackSheep]

Armour was definitely updated to allow training all the time (that commit went in 3 days ago). I don't see the same for Evocations, though.

[Blade]

Oh, awesome! I've been wanting that armour change for a while.

[XuaXua]

I wonder, since Draconians can't use Armour, if the "always on" moved to Evocations as a bug.

[tasonir]

I've been warned that shatter deals damage to yourself if you are in statue form? Is that true, how much is it, and is it also correct that non-statue form casters take 0 damage from shatter?

Seems really counter intuitive to have two earth spells conflict with each other, and shatter does say it creates the force "around" you and nothing about you taking damage from it.

[moocowmoocow]

I've been warned that shatter deals damage to yourself if you are in statue form? Is that true, how much is it, and is it also correct that non-statue form casters take 0 damage from shatter?

Seems really counter intuitive to have two earth spells conflict with each other, and shatter does say it creates the force "around" you and nothing about you taking damage from it.

I know for sure non statue form takes no damage from shatter. Looked up shatter and statue form on knowledge bots and neither mentions taking damage when in statue form. Maybe you're thinking of LRD damaging statues?

[crate]

Shatter doesn't hurt you when you cast it at all, any more (unless you miscast, then it can). It did at some point in the past if you were in statue form.

[tasonir]

well it's just something another player told me, I wasn't thinking of anything. If I get enough skill experience to spare I'll dump some into higher earth levels and try it.

[sir_laser]

Testing in Wiz mode shows that, at least in 10.1, Shatter does not deal damage to the player, whether it's in Statue Form or not.

[BlackSheep]

Doing some cleanup of unanswered questions.

If you are a demonspawn in lich form, when you get hit by a holy attack, do you take even more damage because you are both demonic and undead, or do you just take what you would normally take as a Ds?

No, you take the same damage whether you're alive or in lich form.

How much damage from torment does a non-undead statueformed kiku follower with 200 piety and rN+++ take? In other words, does statueform's rTorment stack with kiku protection and rN?

They all seem to stack. rN+++ cuts damage taken from 50% to 35%. Statue Form cuts torment damage in half, so at rN+++ that's 17.5%. Kiku's protection is pretty variable. Sometimes you'll get total protection, sometimes none, but you'll always at least get the protection from your rN and Statue Form.

[sir_laser]

LearnDB says that Kiku, @ 200 piety, protects against 60% of torment damage on average. So rN+++, Statue Form, and Kiku combined means you'll take 7% of current HP in damage, on average.

Question: How good is +22/+22 slaying on a longbow?

[BlackSheep]

LearnDB says that Kiku, @ 200 piety, protects against 60% of torment damage on average. So rN+++, Statue Form, and Kiku combined means you'll take 7% of current HP in damage, on average.

It's the "on average" that complicates matters. Sometimes it's more, sometimes it's none. There are variations in the protection messages for partial, total and no protection.

Question: How good is +22/+22 slaying on a longbow?

This is a qualitative question. How good do you think it is?

[Blade]

Regardless, the answer in this case is that +22/+22 slaying on a longbow is broken in every possible way and if you lose the game after gaining it then you very much deserved it. That is all.

[Grimm]

Is my thinking correct here? I've checked the bots and relevant threads and I reckon that:

3 (base hunger) + 1 (fastmetab 1) - 2 (sust) - 2 (second sust) = 1 (effective hunger rate)

This is for waiting out Trog wrath.