Does ac reduce spell damage?


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Post Tuesday, 25th November 2014, 13:23

Does ac reduce spell damage?

I've came across a fresh reddit thread where people were advicing against raising your resistances by sacrificing ac - they said ac also reduces fire damage etc.
I call bullshit, but crawl has gotten some changes since I last played it (ranged combat is the same as meele) so I'm confused a bit.
Does ac reduce elemental spell damage? Does GDR apply to ranged damage now?
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Post Tuesday, 25th November 2014, 13:31

Re: Does ac reduce spell damage?

learndb wrote:1. AC reduces incoming damage from most sources by 1d(AC+1)-1. This occurs before resistances. This can reduce it to 0. You might still get poisoned, banished etc. though. Some electric attacks (such as shock, lightning bolt, electric eel blasts) only check half of your AC.

2. Torment, smite, and hellfire, electrocution, and a handful of other abilities/effects ignore AC. The only player-castable damage spells that ignore AC are freeze, refrigeration, sticky flame, static discharge, pain, vampiric draining, Olgreb's Toxic Radiance, ignite poison, and agony. Note that all of these spells also ignore EV.
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Post Tuesday, 25th November 2014, 13:59

Re: Does ac reduce spell damage?

Why thank you mister.
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Post Tuesday, 25th November 2014, 14:13

Re: Does ac reduce spell damage?

...also, GDR still only affects melee attacks.
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Post Tuesday, 25th November 2014, 18:01

Re: Does ac reduce spell damage?

In terms of the question on that reddit thread, though, it depends. Giving up a little AC, on a character that already has good overall defense (HP, AC + EV, SH), for a resistance that is very useful for the area you are currently in... That can be worth it. Just keep in mind you are trading something that mitigates nearly *all* damage for something that only helps against a much smaller subset of attacks.

Also keep in mind that the first pip of rF+/rC+/rN+ gives more benefit than the next one, so sacrificing other defenses for your second pip is almost never worth it.

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Post Tuesday, 25th November 2014, 21:15

Re: Does ac reduce spell damage?

rN is 33%/66%/100%
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Post Tuesday, 25th November 2014, 21:36

Re: Does ac reduce spell damage?

Sar wrote:rN is 33%/66%/100%


No, it's 50%/75%/100%
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Post Wednesday, 26th November 2014, 19:03

Re: Does ac reduce spell damage?

Really? It seems like that went in a year ago. Now I feel a bit better about the first level of the Black Mark mutation.
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