Temple Termagant
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Joined: Thursday, 14th April 2011, 22:30
Thursday, 14th April 2011, 22:55
More advice for a newbie?
Hello Dungeon Crawl folks,
I just recently found this game about a week and a half ago. I used to play Nethack as a kid and finally beat it later on in my life. Later I tried to play ADOM and hated it because I couldn't figure it out, but so far I've been enjoying Crawl. I'm currently playing the trunk version.
Much of my recent play has been trying to unlearn Nethack habits in order to actually be decent at this game, much of which includes "keep stashes," "use-IDing is usually your friend," and "run the hell away when things are going to turn south." Cause things tend to turn south a HELL of a lot more often in this game.
So far, I've done best with a Minotaur Beserker and a Spriggan Venom Mage.
With the Be, I also tried Kobold and Troll, but I never seemed to get very far. With the Minotaur, however, not only did I have lots of corpses, but I had enough umph behind me that soon enough I stopped really having to worry about whether or not I could take out things. The last one I played is currently my high scoring character. Here's the morgue file.
She got through Lair, and the only thing that really threatened her life was Rupert, who almost took her out. I was pretty confident with her overall, though, but Orc turned to be a differnet matter. She ended up meeting a nasty end on Orc:3; I had gone down to Orc:4 and was faced with a veritable HORDE of dangerous looking ogres. I did Brother of Arms a couple times, but my ally died so fast I decided to run the hell away. And then on Orc:3, I ran into some orc sorcerers who summoned a couple demons (a 2 and a 3). I knew I should have run the hell away, but I didn't, and they were going to kill me (One of them had torment and I was NOT immune at all; so I was down to about 20HP). So I tele'd - right into a bunch of orcs. You can guess how that ended.
The SpVM went well for a while. Mephtic Cloud was most definitely my friend. With a couple of them, I began to get lot better at recognizing when was a good time to run away. And of course, Spriggans are AWESOME at running away.
One of my promising looking Sprigs got beat up by Jozef before I realized I couldn't really do anything to him yet.
The other one just recently met her end. Here's the morgue file.
I went through Lair, but it was getting so ridiculously difficult by the time I got to Lair:7 that I decided maybe I'd be better off going somewhere else before trying Lair:8. I had found a couple spellbooks, one of Maledictions which I didn't feel was particularly useful for me. Vehumet finally gave me one, and it had a couple spells like Lightning Bolt and Bolt of Cold, but I felt like I just didn't have much power behind me. If I could confuse my enemies, I did okay, because I could cast Sting as much as I wanted hunger-wise. But if I couldn't, it was so touch-and-go that once things started resisting the confuse portion of Mephtic Cloud, I was really starting to struggle.
I haven't gotten any characters past this point, and I've only gotten about 3 or 4 out of the 50+ I've played now to this area. I've tried some other combinations, but these two are the most luck I've had so far. Are there any things sticking out in particular that I could do to get better?
I also had a couple newbie questions:
From poking around on the forums, I saw a couple terms: scumming and victory dancing. What is that?
I just recently found this game about a week and a half ago. I used to play Nethack as a kid and finally beat it later on in my life. Later I tried to play ADOM and hated it because I couldn't figure it out, but so far I've been enjoying Crawl. I'm currently playing the trunk version.
Much of my recent play has been trying to unlearn Nethack habits in order to actually be decent at this game, much of which includes "keep stashes," "use-IDing is usually your friend," and "run the hell away when things are going to turn south." Cause things tend to turn south a HELL of a lot more often in this game.
So far, I've done best with a Minotaur Beserker and a Spriggan Venom Mage.
With the Be, I also tried Kobold and Troll, but I never seemed to get very far. With the Minotaur, however, not only did I have lots of corpses, but I had enough umph behind me that soon enough I stopped really having to worry about whether or not I could take out things. The last one I played is currently my high scoring character. Here's the morgue file.
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a1-37-gfb6cc5c character file.
91315 Feir the Impaler (level 15, -1/202 HPs)
Began as a Minotaur Berserker on Apr 11, 2011.
Was an Elder of Trog.
Slain by an orc knight
... wielding a +0,+1 orcish war axe
(15 damage)
... on Level 3 of the Orcish Mines.
The game lasted 01:59:51 (30235 turns).
Feir the Impaler (Minotaur Berserker) Turns: 30235, Time: 01:59:51
HP -1/202 AC 23 Str 35 Exp: 15/127601 (2), need: 20098
MP 7/7 EV 7 Int 4 God: Trog [****..]
Gold 1995 SH 0 Dex 10 Spells: 0 memorised, 14 levels left
Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + R - +9,+6 Wyrmbane {god gift, slay drac, +Rage
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . y - +5 chain mail {rPois}
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield)
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . (helmet restricted)
Res.Poison: + Clarity : + (no cloak)
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . S - +1 pair of gauntlets
Sust.Abil.: + . Stasis : . I - +0 pair of elf boots
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . n - amulet "Cheatuam" {Clar rPois SInv}
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . J - ring of sustenance
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . m - cursed ring of sustain abilities
@: regenerating, about to teleport, berserking, very slightly glowing, very
quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: horns 2, talons 1, regeneration 1, screaming 1, Str +2
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Berserk Rage
You were on level 3 of the Orcish Mines.
You worshipped Trog.
Trog was extremely pleased with you.
You were hungry.
You visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and saw 25 of its levels.
You visited 2 portal chambers: spiders nest, bailey.
You collected 1975 gold pieces.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
v - the +4,+1 whip of the Eggplant {slash, +Blink +Rage rPois Stlth--}
(You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
It protects you from poison.
It lets you blink.
It lets you go berserk.
It makes you much less stealthy.
w - a +3,+3 executioner's axe of electrocution
R - the +9,+6 Wyrmbane (weapon) {god gift, slay drac, +Rage rPois rF+ AC+5}
(Trog gifted it to you on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
This legendary weapon is deadly to all dragonkind. It also provides some
protection from the breath attacks of dragons and other creatures.
It affects your AC (+5).
It protects you from fire.
It protects you from poison.
It lets you go berserk.
X - a +0,+1 spear of reaching
Missiles
o - 17 poisoned +0 needles
r - 17 +2 darts of dispersal {god gift}
s - 5 steel +3 darts {god gift}
B - 5 +4 needles of confusion {god gift}
L - 8 +0 needles of sleeping {god gift}
M - 4 +0 javelins (quivered)
P - 27 +1 darts of flame {god gift}
Armour
c - a +2 wizard hat
y - a +5 chain mail of poison resistance (worn)
I - a +0 pair of elven boots (worn)
S - a +1 pair of gauntlets (worn)
Y - a +0 cloak
Magical devices
j - a wand of disintegration (24)
t - a wand of cold (6)
A - a wand of digging (2)
Q - a wand of cold (9)
T - a wand of confusion (10) {unknown}
U - a wand of paralysis (7) {unknown}
W - a wand of lightning (8)
Comestibles
h - 8 bread rations
F - 2 rotting chunks of orc flesh
N - 10 meat rations
Scrolls
a - 3 scrolls of detect curse
f - 6 scrolls of enchant weapon I
l - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon II
q - 5 scrolls of teleportation
x - a scroll of enchant armour
z - a scroll of blinking
C - 6 scrolls of remove curse
G - a scroll of enchant weapon III
V - 4 scrolls of fog
Z - 2 scrolls of fear {unknown}
Jewellery
d - a +5 ring of evasion {unknown}
i - an uncursed ring of life protection
m - a cursed ring of sustain abilities (left hand)
n - the amulet "Cheatuam" (around neck) {Clar rPois SInv}
(You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
[amulet of clarity]
It protects you from poison.
It enhances your eyesight.
p - an uncursed ring of regeneration {unknown}
E - an uncursed ring of teleport control
H - an uncursed ring of life protection
J - a ring of sustenance (right hand)
K - a +4 ring of strength {unknown}
O - an uncursed ring of protection from fire {unknown}
Potions
b - 3 potions of agility
e - a potion of brilliance
k - 4 potions of speed
u - 10 potions of healing
D - 2 potions of restore abilities
You had 2 experience left.
Skills:
+ Level 13 Fighting
+ Level 9 Axes
+ Level 17 Polearms
- Level 3 Slings
- Level 8 Throwing
+ Level 11 Armour
- Level 4 Dodging
- Level 2 Stealth
+ Level 2 Traps & Doors
+ Level 10 Unarmed Combat
You had 14 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (13/27) Temple (0/1) D:4 Orc (4/4) D:10
Elf (0/5) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:13 Swamp (0/5) Lair:4
Slime (0/6) Lair:6 Snake (0/5) Lair:6
Hive: D:11-16
Altars:
Elyvilon
Makhleb
Trog
Vehumet
Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations
You have a pair of horns on your head.
You have sharp toenails.
Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast.
You occasionally shout uncontrollably.
Your muscles are strong (Str +2).
Message History
The orc wizard hits you but does no damage.
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
A red film seems to cover your vision as you go berserk!
You feel yourself moving faster! You feel mighty!
You are feeling hungry.
The orc knight hits you with an orcish war axe!
You die...
You could see an orc knight, 3 orc warriors, 2 orc wizards and 2 orcs.
Vanquished Creatures
An orc warlord (Orc:3)
Gastronok (Lair:6)
A dire elephant (Lair:8)
7 hydras
3 death yaks
A centaur warrior (D:13)
3 griffons
2 giant amoebae (Lair:6)
Pikel (D:4)
3 hill giants
6 orc knights
Urug (D:12)
An orc sorcerer (Orc:3)
The ghost of Veeka the Summoner, an experienced FeSu of Kikubaaqudgha (Lair:2)
A cyclops (Lair:1)
2 elephant slugs
A weapon mimic (D:11)
5 black mambas
A fountain mimic (D:13)
17 elephants
7 spiny frogs
A troll (Orc:4)
5 komodo dragons
19 blink frogs
The ghost of Neka the Summoner, an experienced FeSu of Vehumet (D:10)
A giant toad (shapeshifter) (D:13)
2 two-headed ogres (Orc:4)
24 giant toads
A grizzly bear (Lair:4)
3 wyverns
3 yaks
4 fire drakes
13 hippogriffs
A hungry ghost (D:11)
11 war dogs
A giant slug zombie (D:12)
14 orc warriors
3 sky beasts
2 nagas (Lair:6)
2 boring beetles
5 gila monsters
10 ogres
3 phantoms
12 centaurs
2 wargs
Duvessa (D:8)
9 giant frogs
3 big kobolds
10 crocodiles
13 water moccasins
3 giant slugs
A wolf (Lair:1)
2 yellow wasp zombies
4 agate snails
Blork the orc (D:5)
A vampire bat (Lair:3)
An electric eel (D:13)
A gila monster zombie (D:12)
2 goliath beetles
3 imps
2 big kobold skeletons
7 hounds
A hound zombie (D:7)
A spider (Port)
4 iguanas
3 big kobold zombies
2 hound skeletons
9 orc priests
5 worker ants
15 orc wizards
9 scorpions
7 porcupines
10 sheep
Ijyb (D:6)
3 jellies
19 green rats
A giant centipede (D:9)
17 snakes
4 giant mites
A snake skeleton (D:4)
3 worms
2 spectral bats (Lair:3)
3 bat skeletons (Lair:3)
A bat zombie (Lair:3)
3 fire bats (Lair:3)
3 giant eyeballs
A megabat zombie (D:5)
6 giant geckos
91 orcs
6 giant cockroaches
19 goblins
25 hobgoblins
8 jackals
28 kobolds
28 megabats
10 quokkas
7 bats (Lair:3)
A bat simulacrum (Lair:3)
A giant gecko skeleton (D:4)
8 giant newts
A hobgoblin skeleton (D:4)
An orc zombie (D:5)
19 rats
A rat skeleton (D:4)
4 small snakes
3 fungi
5 plants
7 toadstools
680 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
Rupert (Lair:2)
A hydra (Lair:1)
3 death yaks (Lair:7)
2 orc knights (Port)
A cyclops (D:13)
6 elephants
A spiny frog (Lair:2)
3 blink frogs (Lair:3)
A komodo dragon (Lair:7)
2 two-headed ogres (Orc:4)
A brown ooze (Lair:6)
A small abomination (D:8)
A wraith (D:13)
4 yaks
2 necrophages
2 ogres (Orc:4)
3 orc warriors (Port)
2 centaurs (D:8)
A crocodile (D:13)
2 nagas (Lair:6)
2 water moccasins
2 giant frogs
Dowan (D:8)
A big kobold skeleton (D:13)
2 scorpions (D:10)
An iguana (D:10)
A porcupine (Lair:7)
9 sheep
A snake (D:10)
A green rat (Lair:7)
9 orcs (Port)
2 kobolds (D:10)
A megabat (Lair:1)
A giant newt (D:10)
74 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (others)
A giant amoeba (Lair:6)
2 two-headed ogres
7 ogres
A war dog (Lair:8)
A water moccasin (Lair:8)
An orc wizard (Orc:3)
3 green rats (Lair:7)
A worm (D:4)
An orc (D:5)
2 jackals (D:4)
A kobold (D:12)
2 fungi
A plant (Lair:8)
7 toadstools
31 creatures vanquished.
Grand Total: 785 creatures vanquished
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | Feir, the Minotaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 17/17 MP: 0/0
65 | D:1 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes
405 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/24 MP: 0/0
1230 | D:2 | Acquired Trog's second power
1446 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/30 MP: 1/1
2869 | D:3 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
2908 | D:3 | Gained mutation: You have sharp toenails.
2908 | D:3 | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong (Str +1).
2908 | D:3 | Gained mutation: Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast.
3096 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 34/38 MP: 1/1
3827 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 36/45 MP: 2/2
3880 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
3948 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
4096 | D:4 | Noticed Pikel
4141 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
4156 | D:5 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
4199 | D:5 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 40/51 MP: 2/2
4384 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
4549 | D:5 | Noticed Blork the orc
4558 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
4559 | D:5 | Defeated Blork the orc
4559 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 58/58 MP: 3/3
4646 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
4652 | D:5 | Acquired Trog's third power
4810 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
5021 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
5141 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
5523 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
5615 | D:6 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
5762 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 26/67 MP: 3/3
5951 | D:6 | Noticed Ijyb
5957 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably.
5958 | D:6 | Defeated Ijyb
6270 | D:6 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
6726 | D:6 | Got a steaming spear
6735 | D:6 | Identified the cursed spear "Tune" {venom, Int+4} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
6896 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms
6940 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
7384 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
7739 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
8431 | D:8 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 75/75 MP: 4/4
8491 | D:8 | Noticed Dowan
8492 | D:8 | Noticed Duvessa
8504 | D:8 | Defeated Duvessa
8516 | D:8 | HP: 2/77 [small abomination[Dowan] (13)]
8518 | D:8 | Defeated Dowan
8963 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
9467 | D:9 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
9487 | D:9 | Got a warped whip
10358 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
10420 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
10517 | D:10 | Noticed Neka's ghost (experienced FeSu)
10591 | D:11 | Noticed Erolcha
10823 | D:12 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 75/87 MP: 4/4
10897 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Polearms
11089 | D:12 | Noticed Urug
11105 | D:12 | Defeated Urug
11617 | D:12 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
11637 | D:12 | Reached skill level 11 in Polearms
12399 | D:13 | Found a staircase to the Lair.
12499 | D:13 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 81/96 MP: 5/5
12685 | D:13 | Reached skill level 12 in Polearms
12878 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
12886 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
13032 | Lair:1 | Got a bloodstained trident
13056 | Lair:1 | Identified the cursed -5,+0 trident "Ymaxaboe" (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
13214 | Lair:1 | Identified the +4,+1 whip of the Eggplant (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
13542 | Lair:1 | Got a shimmering garnet amulet
13552 | Lair:1 | Identified the amulet "Cheatuam" (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
13625 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog
13626 | Lair:1 | Got a scale-covered lance {god gift}
13627 | Lair:1 | Identified the Wyrmbane {god gift, slay drac, +Rage rPois rF+ AC+5} (Trog gifted it to you on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
13791 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
13828 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Polearms
14133 | Lair:2 | Noticed Rupert
14135 | Lair:2 | Paralysed by Rupert for 2 turns
14146 | Lair:2 | Defeated Rupert
14335 | Lair:2 | Noticed Veeka's ghost (experienced FeSu)
14341 | Lair:2 | Defeated Veeka's ghost
15532 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 14 in Polearms
15532 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 65/107 MP: 5/5
17571 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
17956 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
18888 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Polearms
19450 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
19817 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 115/115 MP: 6/6
19908 | Lair:6 | Received a gift from Trog
19911 | Lair:6 | Got a bloodstained battleaxe {god gift}
19912 | Lair:6 | Identified the battleaxe "Wahadaj" {god gift, freeze, rN+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
19993 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
20093 | Lair:6 | Noticed Gastronok
20121 | Lair:6 | Defeated Gastronok
21907 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
22608 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
22669 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 16 in Polearms
23032 | Lair:8 | Found a crumbling entrance.
23181 | Spider | Entered a spider's nest
23591 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog
24162 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 61/125 MP: 6/6
24842 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog
26265 | D:10 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
26301 | D:10 | Received a gift from Trog
26398 | D:10 | You fall through a shaft!
26674 | D:10 | Defeated Neka's ghost
27056 | D:4 | Defeated Pikel
27222 | D:4 | Received a gift from Trog
27583 | D:9 | You fall through a shaft!
27698 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
27958 | Orc:2 | Found a flagged portal.
28040 | bailey | Entered the bailey
28174 | bailey | Received a gift from Trog
28282 | bailey | Reached XP level 15. HP: 132/135 MP: 7/7
28285 | bailey | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong (Str +2).
28327 | bailey | Reached skill level 17 in Polearms
28949 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
29345 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
29358 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
29379 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog
29600 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
29600 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
29600 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
29600 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
29601 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
29603 | Orc:4 | Noticed an ogre mage
29603 | Orc:4 | Defeated a two-headed ogre
29605 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
29607 | Orc:4 | Defeated a two-headed ogre
29608 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
29611 | Orc:4 | Defeated a two-headed ogre
29613 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
29617 | Orc:4 | Defeated a two-headed ogre
29617 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog
29618 | Orc:4 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
29881 | Orc:3 | Noticed an orc warlord
29900 | Orc:3 | Defeated an orc warlord
30235 | Orc:3 | Slain by an orc knight
She got through Lair, and the only thing that really threatened her life was Rupert, who almost took her out. I was pretty confident with her overall, though, but Orc turned to be a differnet matter. She ended up meeting a nasty end on Orc:3; I had gone down to Orc:4 and was faced with a veritable HORDE of dangerous looking ogres. I did Brother of Arms a couple times, but my ally died so fast I decided to run the hell away. And then on Orc:3, I ran into some orc sorcerers who summoned a couple demons (a 2 and a 3). I knew I should have run the hell away, but I didn't, and they were going to kill me (One of them had torment and I was NOT immune at all; so I was down to about 20HP). So I tele'd - right into a bunch of orcs. You can guess how that ended.
The SpVM went well for a while. Mephtic Cloud was most definitely my friend. With a couple of them, I began to get lot better at recognizing when was a good time to run away. And of course, Spriggans are AWESOME at running away.
One of my promising looking Sprigs got beat up by Jozef before I realized I couldn't really do anything to him yet.
The other one just recently met her end. Here's the morgue file.
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a1-37-gfb6cc5c character file.
47058 Fanbar the Conjurer (level 14, 0/54 HPs)
Began as a Spriggan Venom Mage on Apr 13, 2011.
Was a High Priest of Vehumet.
Shot with an arrow by a centaur warrior (29 damage)
... on Level 15 of the Dungeon.
The game lasted 02:53:42 (37442 turns).
Fanbar the Conjurer (Spriggan Venom Mage) Turns: 37442, Time: 02:53:42
HP 0/54 AC 9 Str 9 Exp: 14/65469 (0), need: 30730
MP 42/45 EV 23 Int 25 God: Vehumet [*****.]
Gold 1230 SH 0 Dex 19 Spells: 6 memorised, 20 levels left
Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : + E - +7,+4 dagger "Lesyih" {freeze, Dex+1 Int+3
Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . . a - +2 robe
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (shield restricted)
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . l - +2 wizard hat
Res.Poison: . Clarity : . y - +2 orc cloak
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . (gloves unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . (boots unavailable)
Res.Mut. : + Ctrl.Telep.: . c - amulet of resist mutation
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . h - ring "Mner" {Str+4 Dex+2 MP+9}
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . V - ring of protection from cold
@: very quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, breathe flames 1, herbivore 3, speed 3,
slow metabolism 3, Str +1, Int +1, Dex -1
a: Renounce Religion, Breathe Fire
You were on level 15 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Vehumet.
Vehumet was exalted by your worship.
You were very full.
You visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and saw 27 of its levels.
You visited 1 bazaar.
You collected 1330 gold pieces.
You spent 120 gold pieces at shops.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
E - the +7,+4 dagger "Lesyih" (weapon) {freeze, Dex+1 Int+3}
(You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
It affects your intelligence (+3).
It affects your dexterity (+1).
X - the +0,+6 sling of the Ancients {velocity, rPois}
(You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
Any stone fired from it inflicts extra damage.
It protects you from poison.
Armour
a - a +2 robe (worn)
l - a +2 wizard hat (worn)
y - a +2 orcish cloak (worn)
Magical devices
b - a wand of lightning (12)
j - a wand of enslavement (3)
k - a wand of digging (4)
o - a wand of paralysis (13)
r - a wand of confusion (13) {unknown}
s - a wand of paralysis (9)
A - a wand of disintegration (5)
F - a wand of draining (9)
G - a wand of disintegration (2)
U - a wand of cold (4)
Scrolls
e - 2 scrolls of fog
q - 9 scrolls of remove curse
t - 6 scrolls of teleportation
D - 2 scrolls of fear
Jewellery
c - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
f - an uncursed ring of levitation
g - an uncursed ring of regeneration
h - the ring "Mner" (right hand) {Str+4 Dex+2 MP+9}
(You acquired it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
[ring of magical power]
It affects your strength (+4).
It affects your dexterity (+2).
v - an uncursed ring of invisibility
w - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
V - a ring of protection from cold (left hand)
Potions
n - 12 potions of healing
p - 2 potions of brilliance
B - a potion of resistance
J - 5 potions of heal wounds
Books
i - a book of Conjurations [ice+air] {god gift}
Spells Type Level
Magic Dart Conjuration 1
Throw Frost Conjuration/Ice 2
*Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Static Discharge Conjuration/Air 4
*Lightning Bolt Conjuration/Air 5
Bolt of Cold Conjuration/Ice 6
Miscellaneous
N - a bottled efreet
Z - an ornate deck of escape
You had 0 experience left.
Skills:
- Level 1 Short Blades
+ Level 5 Throwing
+ Level 7 Dodging
+ Level 8 Stealth
+ Level 2 Traps & Doors
+ Level 13 Spellcasting
+ Level 14 Conjurations
+ Level 6 Air Magic
+ Level 13 Poison Magic
+ Level 1 Evocations
You had 20 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Success Level Hunger
a - Sting Pois/Conj ##### Perfect 1 None
b - Mephitic Cloud Pois/Air/Conj #######... Excellent 3 None
c - Cure Poison Pois #######... Excellent 2 None
d - Venom Bolt Pois/Conj #######... Excellent 5 Strawberry
e - Poison Weapon Pois/Chrm N/A Excellent 3 None
f - Lightning Bolt Air/Conj #######... Excellent 5 Strawberry
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (15/27) Temple (1/1) D:6 Orc (4/4) D:8
Lair (7/8) D:12 Shoals (0/5) Lair:5 Snake (0/5) Lair:4
Elf: Orc:3-4 Slime: Lair:6-8 Hive: D:11-16 Vault: D:14-19
Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations
You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.
You can breathe flames.
Your mind is acute (Int +1).
Your muscles are strong, but stiff (Str +1, Dex -1).
Message History
The beam explodes into a vile cloud!
The stinking cloud engulfs the centaur warrior.
You hear an angry buzzing noise.
The centaur warrior is engulfed in noxious fumes.
The centaur warrior shoots an arrow. The arrow hits you!
Ouch! That really hurt!
You die...
You could see a centaur warrior and a giant frog.
Vanquished Creatures
4 hydras
2 griffons (Lair:5)
A centaur warrior (D:13)
An unseen horror (D:14)
2 hill giants
Pikel (D:6)
The ghost of Teya the Tainter, an experienced SpVM (D:10)
A guardian serpent (shapeshifter) (D:14)
Urug (D:10)
2 cyclopes (D:14)
A trapdoor spider zombie (D:14)
2 black mambas
8 slime creatures
An elephant slug (D:12)
A fountain mimic (D:12)
A trapdoor spider (Lair:6)
2 spiny frogs (Lair:6)
19 elephants
2 weapon mimics
A queen ant (Lair:5)
Psyche (D:8)
A komodo dragon (Lair:4)
7 blink frogs
3 queen bees
2 trolls
A two-headed ogre (D:10)
A giant firefly (shapeshifter) (D:13)
7 giant toads
A wraith (D:13)
6 hippogriffs
2 wyverns
12 yaks
A fire drake (Lair:5)
2 vampire mosquitoes (D:12)
3 war dogs (Lair:6)
3 manticores
14 soldier ants
A hungry ghost (D:14)
8 orc warriors
7 ogres
2 ice beasts
A troll zombie (D:14)
A hippogriff zombie (D:12)
12 centaurs
7 crocodiles
A troll skeleton (D:14)
3 boring beetles
6 gila monsters
2 wargs
2 giant slugs
2 agate snails
11 giant frogs
8 water moccasins
An eye of draining (D:11)
A water moccasin skeleton (D:8)
46 killer bees
A killer bee zombie (D:12)
3 fire bats (D:13)
4 goliath beetles
3 shadows
9 imps
A big kobold skeleton (D:11)
A gila monster skeleton (D:14)
13 hounds
A big fish (Lair:6)
A hound skeleton (D:7)
2 scorpions
3 orc priests
6 iguanas
6 porcupines
12 orc wizards
26 worker ants
2 jellies
3 worker ant zombies
20 sheep
Ijyb (D:5)
A mummy (D:12)
3 gnolls (D:3)
16 green rats (Lair:4)
16 snakes
A giant centipede zombie (D:14)
An iguana zombie (D:5)
7 giant centipedes
3 giant mites
4 worms
4 giant eyeballs
9 giant geckos
3 oozes
54 orcs
6 giant cockroaches
16 hobgoblins
18 jackals
21 megabats
10 quokkas
2 small snakes
6 giant newts
3 giant spores
21 goblins
A hobgoblin skeleton (D:14)
3 killer bee larvae
15 kobolds
2 orc skeletons
20 rats
13 ballistomycetes
19 toadstools
659 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
3 elephants (Lair:4)
A hippogriff (Lair:7)
A yak (D:12)
3 soldier ants (Lair:5)
5 centaurs (D:11)
2 crocodiles
A water moccasin (Lair:1)
20 killer bees
2 orc wizards
11 worker ants (Lair:5)
A porcupine (Lair:7)
4 sheep
A gnoll (D:3)
5 orcs
A jackal (D:9)
7 killer bee larvae
2 megabats (D:13)
4 fungi
6 toadstools
80 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (others)
9 slime creatures
An elephant (Lair:4)
A soldier ant (Lair:5)
An ogre (D:6)
A killer bee (Lair:3)
2 worker ants (Lair:5)
A snake (D:10)
A giant gecko (D:6)
An orc (Orc:4)
A giant newt (D:5)
A giant spore (D:11)
A goblin (D:5)
A jackal (D:8)
A rat (D:5)
A fungus (Lair:7)
115 toadstools
139 creatures vanquished.
Grand Total: 878 creatures vanquished
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
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0 | D:1 | Fanbar, the Spriggan Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 8/8 MP: 4/4
610 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 6/11 MP: 1/7
1765 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
1965 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 14/16 MP: 1/9
1970 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
2207 | D:2 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
2235 | D:2 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
2552 | D:3 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
2858 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 4/19 MP: 3/12
3143 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
3589 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
3597 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 23/23 MP: 2/15
3722 | D:3 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
3794 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
3871 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Poison Magic
4254 | D:4 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
4452 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 27/27 MP: 5/18
4655 | D:4 | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong, but stiff (Str +1, Dex -1).
4655 | D:4 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +1).
4655 | D:4 | Gained mutation: You can breathe flames.
4764 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
4849 | D:5 | Noticed Ijyb
5232 | D:5 | Defeated Ijyb
5297 | D:5 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
5639 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Poison Magic
5798 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
5992 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 21/31 MP: 13/19
6878 | D:5 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
7103 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
7114 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
7237 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
7315 | D:6 | Noticed Sigmund
7590 | D:6 | Noticed Pikel
7594 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
7613 | D:6 | Defeated Pikel
7613 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 31/34 MP: 1/22
7852 | D:6 | Learned a level 5 spell: Venom Bolt
8395 | D:7 | Reached skill level 8 in Poison Magic
8531 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
8621 | D:7 | Noticed a slime creature
8711 | D:7 | Noticed a hill giant
8729 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
8918 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
9265 | D:8 | Acquired Vehumet's first power
9266 | D:8 | Reached skill level 9 in Poison Magic
9389 | D:8 | Noticed Psyche
9404 | D:8 | Defeated Psyche
9414 | D:8 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 36/39 MP: 5/24
9604 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
10966 | D:9 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
11126 | D:9 | Reached skill level 10 in Poison Magic
11132 | D:9 | Acquired Vehumet's second power
11258 | D:9 | Got a bloodstained dagger
11265 | D:9 | Identified the dagger "Lesyih" {freeze, Dex+1 Int+3} (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
12091 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
12104 | D:10 | Noticed Urug
12118 | D:10 | Noticed Teya's ghost (experienced SpVM)
12330 | D:10 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 42/42 MP: 9/27
12569 | D:11 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
12571 | D:11 | Got a brightly glowing iron ring
12572 | D:11 | Identified the ring "Mner" (You acquired it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
12721 | D:11 | Reached skill level 11 in Poison Magic
12753 | D:11 | Acquired Vehumet's third power
12755 | D:11 | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
12929 | D:11 | Noticed a queen bee
12962 | D:11 | Defeated a queen bee
13015 | D:11 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
14104 | D:12 | Reached skill level 12 in Poison Magic
14465 | D:12 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 34/45 MP: 29/29
14817 | D:12 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
14828 | D:12 | Acquired Vehumet's fourth power
15324 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Lair.
15364 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
16387 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Poison Magic
17442 | Lair:2 | Got a shimmering sling
18378 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
19167 | Lair:3 | You fall through a shaft!
19195 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 49/49 MP: 31/31
19421 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
19689 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
23998 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
24603 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
25147 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 52/52 MP: 14/33
25148 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
25854 | Lair:6 | Noticed a trapdoor spider
26116 | Lair:6 | Identified the sling of the Ancients {velocity, rPois} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
26905 | Lair:6 | Defeated a trapdoor spider
30317 | D:13 | Learned a level 3 spell: Poison Weapon
30843 | D:13 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
30859 | D:13 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
30884 | D:13 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
30916 | D:13 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
30941 | D:13 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
30954 | D:13 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
31185 | D:14 | Noticed a guardian serpent
31236 | D:14 | Noticed Jozef
31281 | D:14 | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
31292 | bazaar | Entered a bazaar
31304 | bazaar | Found Tupnoyvo's Jewellery Boutique.
31327 | bazaar | Found Uluach's Distillery.
31350 | bazaar | Found Ynuirucu's Magical Wand Boutique.
31373 | bazaar | Found Psiuc's Antique Weapon Emporium.
31423 | bazaar | Bought a potion of healing for 12 gold pieces
31423 | bazaar | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 18 gold pieces
31423 | bazaar | Bought a potion of cure mutation for 90 gold pieces
32009 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
33189 | D:10 | Received a gift from Vehumet
33197 | D:10 | Learned a level 5 spell: Lightning Bolt
33234 | D:10 | Defeated Teya's ghost
33563 | D:10 | Defeated Urug
34187 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
34581 | Orc:1 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
35316 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
35359 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc high priest
36689 | D:14 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 40/54 MP: 25/36
36880 | D:14 | Defeated a guardian serpent
37136 | D:14 | Reached skill level 14 in Conjurations
37442 | D:15 | Shot with an arrow by a centaur warrior
I went through Lair, but it was getting so ridiculously difficult by the time I got to Lair:7 that I decided maybe I'd be better off going somewhere else before trying Lair:8. I had found a couple spellbooks, one of Maledictions which I didn't feel was particularly useful for me. Vehumet finally gave me one, and it had a couple spells like Lightning Bolt and Bolt of Cold, but I felt like I just didn't have much power behind me. If I could confuse my enemies, I did okay, because I could cast Sting as much as I wanted hunger-wise. But if I couldn't, it was so touch-and-go that once things started resisting the confuse portion of Mephtic Cloud, I was really starting to struggle.
I haven't gotten any characters past this point, and I've only gotten about 3 or 4 out of the 50+ I've played now to this area. I've tried some other combinations, but these two are the most luck I've had so far. Are there any things sticking out in particular that I could do to get better?
I also had a couple newbie questions:
From poking around on the forums, I saw a couple terms: scumming and victory dancing. What is that?
