Snake Pit Ninja


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Post Tuesday, 16th September 2014, 02:46

Snake Pit Ninja

So, I'm attempting to cTele into the rune vault on Snake Pit 5. The issue is, despite having the cTele bonus when the teleport triggers, and getting to pick my location, I always seem to end up somewhere random. For the record, I read a scroll of magic mapping, evoked cTele via a ring of teleport control and then activated my wand of teleport. I've attempted this several times, to no avail.

Is there something I'm missing?
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Post Tuesday, 16th September 2014, 03:40

Re: Snake Pit Ninja

When you choose a square for a controlled teleport, you have a chance of teleporting to any of the nine squares within a radius of 1 from the chosen square.

If you cannot be placed in that square due to a dungeon feature (wall, lava, water, etc.) or a monster then you are teleported to a random square on the level instead.

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Post Tuesday, 16th September 2014, 04:05

Re: Snake Pit Ninja

Ahh, so attempting to teleport into a vault (presumably) brimming with monsters is shunting me away.. excellent answer, thank you!

EDIT: I've forgotten why I thought this was a good idea again:
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Post Tuesday, 16th September 2014, 05:10

Re: Snake Pit Ninja

HilariousDeathArtist wrote:When you choose a square for a controlled teleport, you have a chance of teleporting to any of the nine squares within a radius of 1 from the chosen square.

Incorrect - you can actually teleport to any of the squares in a 5x5 box around your destination.
Here's how it works:
Start in the tile you pick
With 100% chance, pick a new tile in the 3x3 box
With 25% chance, pick a new tile in the 3x3 box a second time

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Post Tuesday, 16th September 2014, 05:17

Re: Snake Pit Ninja

Um, yeah... That's a dead spriggan you've got right there if you don't immediately teleport back out of it.
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Post Tuesday, 16th September 2014, 05:50

Re: Snake Pit Ninja

they are asleep, stab them all!
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Post Tuesday, 16th September 2014, 13:08

Re: Snake Pit Ninja

Patashu wrote:Incorrect - you can actually teleport to any of the squares in a 5x5 box around your destination.
Here's how it works:
Start in the tile you pick
With 100% chance, pick a new tile in the 3x3 box
With 25% chance, pick a new tile in the 3x3 box a second time


I don't get it. Do you mean the 25% chance takes place only when I cannot land in the tile from 100% step? Or is it always and thus it's possible to get random teleport after targeting central tile of 3x3 room?

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Post Tuesday, 16th September 2014, 19:22

Re: Snake Pit Ninja

I think it works like this:
You picked the square you want to teleport to, and the game always picks that spot, or any of the 8 squares surrounding it for you to teleport to. There would be a 1/9 chance for any one particular spot. Now, there's a 1/4 chance of that happening again, only now from the new spot. Then if that spot has a feature/monster, you are randomly teleported.
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Post Tuesday, 16th September 2014, 20:10

Re: Snake Pit Ninja

So the chance of successfully teleporting into a 3x3 empty room is (selecting the center as target):
3/4 + 1/4 * (1/9 + 4/9 * 4/9 + 4/9 * 6/9) = 3/4 + 1/4 * 49/81 = 3/4 + 49/324 = 292/324 = 146/162 = 73/81 = about 90%, am I right?
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Post Thursday, 18th September 2014, 01:52

Re: Snake Pit Ninja

Sprucery wrote:So the chance of successfully teleporting into a 3x3 empty room is (selecting the center as target):
3/4 + 1/4 * (1/9 + 4/9 * 4/9 + 4/9 * 6/9) = 3/4 + 1/4 * 49/81 = 3/4 + 49/324 = 292/324 = 146/162 = 73/81 = about 90%, am I right?

I did the working out without looking at yours and got the same answer, so I would say yes.

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