Is this shield worth it?


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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 14:09

Is this shield worth it?

I'm playing a sword-and-board MiFi. Saw this artifact in a shop:

the +18 shield of the gong {rElec rN+ MR+ EV-5} (1264gp)

I have the money. i've completed Orc and am halfway through Lair. XL 14, AC 29, EV 6, SH 13.

The +18 on shields goes toward SH value, right? So does a highly inflated SH make up for the fact that the EV penalty would take my EV to 1? (I'm feverishly training Dodging from nothing, but it'd still be in the single digits for a long time).

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 14:16

Re: Is this shield worth it?

Gong is loud enough that it will wake up every enemy on the level and bring them to your location so you have to fight them all at the same time. It's never worth it.

Shields don't block beams or many other forms of attacks. It is a trap.

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 14:19

The shield of the gong

  • is dangerous because of the noise it makes
  • prevents you (like all shields) from wielding a two-handed weapon
I wouldn't wear it.

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 14:32

Re: Is this shield worth it?

It can be fun but is very dangerous. It can be useful for some characters only (like axe-wielding MiFi of Makhleb).
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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 15:04

Re: Is this shield worth it?

I like how everyone is trying to persuade you from using an incredibly strong item.
Go for it, you won't have another chance until much later.
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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 15:14

Re: Is this shield worth it?

Bloax wrote:I like how everyone is trying to persuade you from using an incredibly strong item.
Go for it, you won't have another chance until much later.


From my game with gong
Holy pan level was crazy, I killed at least 49+ creatures in the same tile (created a corridor and a hole in wall) without any resting, there were 49 weapons (a-z, A-U) after the fight


Vaults 5 was fun too ;)

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 16:17

Re: Is this shield worth it?

Aha - I hadn't looked at the store description and didn't realize it was a noisemaker. Not that I am at all stealthy now, but.... whole levels at once could be painful. Especially with an EV of 1...

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 16:31

Re: Is this shield worth it?

Bloax wrote:Go for it, you won't have another chance until much later.

This is actually a decent point.

"I played a game wearing gong" may be a more valuable experience/memory/story than "I won a game."

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 16:40

Re: Is this shield worth it?

I mean I wouldn't have anything against discouraging Maxwell's Coffin, but GONG is a really strong item that doesn't completely fuck you over.
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!lg * won !DD-- min=turns -log
<Sequell> 20749. Bloax, XL24 VSTm, T:13320: http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Bloax/morgue-Bloax-20140907-000920.txt

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 16:52

Re: Is this shield worth it?

Bloax wrote:I mean I wouldn't have anything against discouraging Maxwell's Coffin, but GONG is a really strong item that doesn't completely fuck you over.


Why is it so strong? I switched to +7 large shield of rF+ as soon as I could (lost SH 5 and MR) because even with Qazal (who already provides permanent Fireball-level noise) and AC 60+ the difference in survivability was huge. Without Gong I was able to rest before killing 70% monsters of the whole level.

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 17:03

Re: Is this shield worth it?

The best part of the shield of the gong is the suspenseful "More..." messages it generates.

OH SHIT how did I die I had 50 HP...never mind, it's just my shield going PTAAAAANNGG
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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 19:15

Re: Is this shield worth it?

I was still hemming and hawing about going back for Gong, but found a +9 large shield with STR and DEX bumps. Yup, I'm good! :D
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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 19:28

Re: Is this shield worth it?

go back for gong! it's a smaller shield (need to train less) with probably similar SH and much more fun.
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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 19:37

Re: Is this shield worth it?

If you have some kind of regeneration, Elyvilon, or vampircism, you'll have a funner time with gong.
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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 20:06

Re: Is this shield worth it?

but coffin is amazing, Bloax

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 20:33

Re: Is this shield worth it?

jokes aside the coffin is better than gong, given characters that would consider using any

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 20:39

Re: Is this shield worth it?

I wonder... Gong + Qazlal....

This must be done.
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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 21:02

Re: Is this shield worth it?

ElderVIII wrote:I wonder... Gong + Qazlal....

This must be done.

Done by rchandra

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