Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciated


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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 16:41

Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciated

I am finishing my last game and I wanted some suggestions to make my first streak ever.

What kind of combo is the safest one? I was going to do a DDHe or MiBe but I wanted some feedback on what would be the safest choice.

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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 17:54

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

I usually consider gargoyles to be strong contenders for streaking, the ac is very helpful. There is a bit of two-shotting risk, as you have -20% hp, if something gets past your defenses, but that isn't too bad. The AC should help a lot in the early game, which is where you're most likely to die. Of course DDHe and MiBe are also great options. You should probably play a combo/playstyle you are already familiar with, as well.

CeHu is another combo I use for streaking, because being fast is very powerful.

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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 17:57

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

If I absolutely had to win I think I would choose CeBe with spear as a starting weapon. My approach would be: kite / berserk everything even remotely dangerous (or just run because you can) until finding a bow (or crossbow if enough bolts available until then) -> win.

But that's just me personally, I guess the general consensus will be MiBe.

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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 18:07

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Thanks people, I am scared to die in the first 6-7 floors, where the game has still a luck component and sometimes there are very difficult situations. I'll avoid DDHe though, because if you get something you can't pacify in the first floor you're dead. Probably I'm going to try a Centaur, but I wanted to also avoid using Berserker if I could, because I already won that... keep the suggestions coming, I am very thankful <3
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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 18:20

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Meriados wrote:but I wanted to also avoid using Berserker if I could, because I already won that...

Streak all the Berserkers!

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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 18:29

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Tedronai wrote:
Meriados wrote:but I wanted to also avoid using Berserker if I could, because I already won that...

Streak all the Berserkers!


So, Berserkerest Player hasn't been added right? :P

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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 19:02

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Meriados wrote:Thanks people, I am scared to die in the first 6-7 floors, where the game has still a luck component and sometimes there are very difficult situations. I'll avoid DDHe though, because if you get something you can't pacify in the first floor you're dead. Probably I'm going to try a Centaur, but I wanted to also avoid using Berserker if I could, because I already won that... keep the suggestions coming, I am very thankful <3


Well, first of all, you can escape from most things if you can't pacify them (except things like killer bees ughs they're nasty early spawn for a He).
But if you're scared of that DD is still probably one of the thoughest guy in the first floors (well all the game) because among all things you always start with your wand of hw and with Ne/EE (or Gl/Fi if you really want) -> Makhleb you have also a good book to zap things from afar (especially Ne because you get undead shield from turn 1 and vampiric draining on xl3).
But a Ce/HO/Mi/DD BE has still probably highest probability to get to lair.

Also remember troll! Every Tr with any background (probably, if not going as Be, Hu is the easiest as you get 5 things of kill anything up Lair) is easy as shit because claws! And Hp! And Regen! And Claws! (as long you play not bad enough)
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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 19:43

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

I'll add Gh to this list, probably play GhMo of Oka, it's like a mini-Tr
1/1 game for mopl (Gh): N=1/1 (100.00%)

That was my first streak
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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 22:37

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

I'd go for DD something. (My DD winrate: 50%)
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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 23:29

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Go spriggan. Very easy.
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Post Thursday, 21st August 2014, 23:57

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Centaur with polearm/ranged weapon is super strong for streaking yeah.

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Post Saturday, 23rd August 2014, 00:47

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Patashu wrote:Centaur is super strong.

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Post Saturday, 23rd August 2014, 14:53

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

I did it yesterday with CeHu (bow). Wasn't that hard except for maybe 1-2 moments in Zot1 and Zot5. Just make sure to run / kite if need. Don't be stubborn and think '1 more hit'. :)
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Post Saturday, 23rd August 2014, 18:18

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

I suck at crawl and have streaked 3 in a row. Start with a spriggan or elf wiz, then do a minotaur/hill orc/centaur of trog. Always use shields.

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Post Saturday, 23rd August 2014, 18:21

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

snow wrote:Always use shields.

what

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Post Saturday, 23rd August 2014, 18:35

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

I actually find I win a higher percentage of the games I use shields in than the ones I do not, for a chunk of the game, having a SH value is helpful, and reduces your chances of dying.

Of course there's a chunk of the game where shields are less helpful than using a giant beating stick (presuming that's your primary killdudes) so take that as you will..

It's one of those things that you can say "this is helpful right now, and won't be helpful later" which are actually usually worth doing.
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Post Saturday, 23rd August 2014, 18:40

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Siegurt wrote:I actually find I win a higher percentage of the games I use shields in than the ones I do not, for a chunk of the game, having a SH value is helpful, and reduces your chances of dying.

Of course there's a chunk of the game where shields are less helpful than using a giant beating stick (presuming that's your primary killdudes) so take that as you will..

It's one of those things that you can say "this is helpful right now, and won't be helpful later" which are actually usually worth doing.


Basically this. Shields suck in theory and in all simulations but in practice they increase your chance of winning somehow.

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Post Saturday, 23rd August 2014, 19:59

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

I ran fsims comparing Fi/Gl with and without shields long time ago. Shield really helps early game (especially pre-Temple) and as we all know early game is the hardest part.
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Post Sunday, 24th August 2014, 00:14

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Sandman25 wrote:I ran fsims comparing Fi/Gl with and without shields long time ago. Shield really helps early game (especially pre-Temple) and as we all know early game is the hardest part.

So something like:
"Oh thank gods, there's the Qazial altar I can take this damned piece of junk off now"

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Post Sunday, 24th August 2014, 00:18

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Meriados wrote:What kind of combo is the safest one?


Anything Trog.
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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 00:58

Re: Suggestions to make my first streak ever. Help appreciat

Objectively, the best race for streaking is DD, but what's most important is what you're comfortable playing. ddhe would not be good for you unless you are familiar with playing healers, as it would add the difficulty of learning to play he to the existing difficulty of the game. What to do, what the 'power curve' of your character looks like, what you can handle - knowledge like that is more important for streaking than the actual combo, except in some extreme cases where the combo is absolute trash.
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