Which Armour: AC vs. EV vs. +Dam


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Slime Squisher

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Post Tuesday, 10th June 2014, 14:41

Which Armour: AC vs. EV vs. +Dam

Sometimes I find it hard to decide on the relative advantages of weapons or armour, even if I compare stuff in wiz mode. I have:

  • a +0 pearl dragon armour (in a shop)
  • a +2 crystal plate armour
  • the +4 scale mail of the Forgotten Wonders (worn) {rC+ Dam+6}

Armour and Dodging skills are both at ~14, Str is at 16 (19 with gloves of strength), I have a single scroll of enchant armour left at this point.

Ordinarily my gut feeling would be to go for the Pearl dragon armour, as I like to have both AC and EV -- if that make sense. However, the slaying bonus from the scale mail is sizeable, so I tend to stick with it. Of course, it could be argued that I already do enough damage with my demon blade of electrocution, but then again, can there ever by enough damage? Still, maybe more protection is more valuable at this point, I don't know.

If you have an advice, I'd also be curious, whether you consider it a clear decision (maybe even by a large margin) or whether it is a close one (maybe even a matter of taste).

Char dump:

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1-23-g35e4e54 (console) character file.

Utis the Warrior (Tengu Gladiator)                 Turns: 57673, Time: 04:27:36

HP 139/139       AC 31     Str 19      XL: 20   Next: 60%
MP  31/31        EV 20     Int 16      God: Okawaru [*****.]
Gold 2129        SH 28     Dex 16      Spells:  5 memorised,  6 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     a - +6,+3 demon blade (elec)
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     s - +4 scale mail of the Forgotten Wonders {rC+ Dam+6}
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     j - +0 shield {reflect}
rPois  .         rCorr    .     J - +2 hat {MR+}
rElec  .         rRot     .     w - +2 cloak {MR+}
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     m - +2 pair of gloves {Str+3}
rMut   .         Warding  .     (boots unavailable)
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     z - amulet of faith {!P}
MR     +++..                    O - ring of regeneration
                                Z - ring of Robustness {AC+8}

@: flying, quick, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely
unstealthy
A: able to fly continuously, beak, talons 3
a: Stop Flying, Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine


You are on level 3 of the Vaults.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 37 of its levels.
You have visited 1 bazaar.
You have also visited: Ice Cave and Volcano.

You have collected 3093 gold pieces.
You have spent 964 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +6,+3 demon blade of electrocution (weapon)
 b - a +4,+4 scimitar of flaming
 e - an uncursed scimitar of electrocution
 t - a +4,+0 claymore of holy wrath
 L - the +10,+6 long sword of Okawaru's Scorn {slice, rElec Str+4 Int+2}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 2 of the Swamp)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It insulates you from electricity.
 V - a blowgun
Missiles
 v - 2 curare-tipped needles {=f}
Armour
 g - a +0 cloak of preservation
 j - a +0 shield of reflection (worn)
 k - a +2 cloak of poison resistance
 m - a +2 pair of gloves of strength (worn)
 s - the +4 scale mail of the Forgotten Wonders (worn) {rC+ Dam+6}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults)   
   
   It affects your damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+6).
   It protects you from cold.
 w - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 J - a +2 hat of magic resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 u - a wand of teleportation (5)
 E - a wand of cold
 T - a wand of disintegration (13)
 W - a wand of heal wounds (2)
Comestibles
 n - 4 meat rations
 p - 4 bread rations
 q - 6 chokos
Scrolls
 r - a scroll of summoning
 A - a scroll of vulnerability
 D - 4 scrolls of fear {!r}
 G - 3 scrolls of fog
 I - 7 scrolls of teleportation {!r}
 N - 3 scrolls of identify
 R - 2 scrolls of blinking {!r}
Jewellery
 x - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 y - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 z - an amulet of faith (around neck) {!P}
 F - a +6 ring of dexterity
 K - a +5 ring of strength {=f}
 O - a ring of regeneration (right hand)
 Q - an uncursed ring of ice
 U - the ring "Craff" {Ice MR++ Str-1}
   (You took it off a big kobold on level 13 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of ice]
   It affects your strength (-1).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 X - an uncursed ring of see invisible
 Z - the ring of Robustness (left hand) {AC+8}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   It affects your AC (+8).
Potions
 f - 2 potions of resistance
 h - a potion of restore abilities
 i - 4 potions of curing
 l - 3 potions of might
 B - 6 potions of agility
 H - a potion of haste
 M - a potion of brilliance
 S - 2 potions of heal wounds
 Y - a potion of magic
Books
 c - a book of Party Tricks   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Summon Butterflies                Summoning                    1
   *Apportation                       Translocation                1
   *Blink                             Translocation                2
   Alistair's Intoxication            Transmutation/Poison         4
   Tukima's Dance                     Hexes                        5
 d - a book of the Warp   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Control Teleport                  Charms/Translocation         4
   *Phase Shift                       Translocation                5
   Warp Weapon                        Charms/Translocation         5
   Summon Forest                      Summoning/Translocation      5
   Dispersal                          Translocation                6
   Controlled Blink                   Translocation                7
   Disjunction                        Translocation                8
Rods
 o - a +3 rod of striking (12/12) {!a}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)


   Skills:
 + Level 19.2 Fighting
 - Level 19.1 Long Blades
 - Level 2.1 Throwing
 - Level 14.0 Armour
 - Level 14.4 Dodging
 + Level 14.9 Shields
 - Level 6.7 Invocations


You have 6 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
b - Summon Butterflies    Summ           #.......     47%         1    ##.....
p - Phase Shift           Tloc           #.........   100%        5    ######.
t - Control Teleport      Chrm/Tloc      #.........   100%        4    #####..
v - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          73%         2    ###....
A - Apportation           Tloc           #.........   47%         1    ##.....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (0/4) D:9
   Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (5/5) Lair:4        Snake (5/5) Lair:4
  Slime (0/6) Lair:7       Vaults (3/5) D:13          Crypt (0/5) Vaults:3
 Blade: Vaults:3-4  Depths: D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 *   D:9 *   D:10 =   D:11 [*:%   Snake:4 [   Vaults:1 }

Annotations:
D:14 exclusion: downstairs, Roxanne


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can fly continuously.
You have a beak for a mouth.
You have claws for feet.


Message History

Okay, then.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Take off which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start removing your armour.
You continue taking off your +2 pair of gloves of strength.
You finish taking off your +2 pair of gloves of strength.
You feel weaker.
Unknown command.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start putting on your armour.
You continue putting on your +2 pair of gloves of strength.
You finish putting on your +2 pair of gloves of strength.
You feel stronger.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Norris (Vaults:1)
  Mara (Snake:4)
  Asterion (Snake:5)
  Vashnia (Snake:5)
  A sphinx (Vaults:2)
  Kirke (Snake:1)
  A thorn hunter (Swamp:4)
  2 fire giants (Vaults:1)
  6 greater nagas
  3 vault wardens
  Donald (D:14)
  Wiglaf (Snake:5)
  Maud (D:14)
  Aizul (Snake:4)
  Gastronok (D:13)
  2 stone giants (Vaults:2)
  Azrael (Snake:4)
  A curse skull (Vaults:3)
  A deep elf annihilator (Vaults:1)
  A deep elf death mage (Vaults:1)
  A jiangshi (Vaults:3)
  A fire dragon (Vaults:2)
  4 ironheart preservers
  7 yaktaur captains
  A great orb of eyes (Vaults:2)
  A vault guard (D:13)
  Fannar (D:11)
  Harold (D:14)
  3 shambling mangroves
  17 anacondas
  14 naga warriors
  26 hydras
  12 shock serpents
  9 death yaks
  2 ogre magi (Vaults:2)
  8 alligators
  Urug (D:14)
  8 centaur warriors
  20 naga sharpshooters
  5 spriggans
  2 salamander mystics (Snake:5)
  A shadow wraith (Vaults:2)
  9 skeletal warriors
  2 ice devils (D:15)
  A catoblepas (Lair:8)
  14 naga ritualists
  A fire crab (Vaults:2)
  A spriggan druid (Swamp:5)
  5 deep trolls (Vaults:1)
  6 unseen horrors
  10 swamp dragons
  2 giant orange brains
  A flayed ghost (Vaults:3)
  3 ice statues (IceCv)
  11 hill giants
  14 mana vipers
  2 necromancers
  A red wasp (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  A red wasp (Vaults:2)
  6 ironbrand convokers
  An orc sorcerer (Vaults:2)
  4 cyclopes
  A wolf spider (Vaults:2)
  9 orc knights
  A sixfirhy (Vaults:2)
  2 manticores
  7 griffons
  2 phantasmal warriors
  A guardian serpent (Snake:5)
  A stone giant zombie (Vaults:1)
  18 elephants
  17 salamanders
  47 black mambas
  4 vault sentinels
  23 naga magi
  29 spiny frogs
  A queen ant (Lair:7)
  A yaktaur zombie (Vaults:1)
  15 yaktaurs
  2 kobold demonologists (Vaults:1)
  A small abomination (Vaults:1)
  2 deep elf priests
  6 blue devils (IceCv)
  15 komodo dragons
  6 fire drakes
  3 boggarts (Vaults:1)
  5 trolls
  5 giant fireflies
  A freezing wraith (Vaults:2)
  18 blink frogs
  17 ravens
  23 slime creatures
  A raven (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  4 two-headed ogres
  A fire giant simulacrum (Vaults:2)
  6 bog bodies
  4 boulder beetles
  A polar bear (Lair:7)
  A trapdoor spider zombie (D:13)
  9 giant leeches
  5 baby alligators (Swamp:4)
  2 thorn lotuses
  A trapdoor spider (D:14)
  6 basilisks
  A grizzly bear (Lair:3)
  8 sharks
  6 fire elementals (Snake:4)
  3 toenail golems (Volcano)
  2 wraiths (Vaults:3)
  A vampire (D:13)
  7 humans
  3 shadows
  25 ugly things
  4 hogs (Snake:1)
  23 wolves
  42 yaks
  4 deep elf magi
  2 deep elf fighters (Vaults:1)
  5 wyverns
  15 hippogriffs
  55 vampire mosquitoes
  A hungry ghost (Vaults:3)
  An ogre zombie (Vaults:1)
  A steam dragon (D:11)
  78 nagas
  44 water moccasins
  5 necrophages
  3 mottled dragons
  21 soldier ants
  17 swamp worms
  10 porcupines
  A warg (Vaults:2)
  14 swamp drakes
  2 hell hounds
  6 ice beasts
  A black bear (D:11)
  16 ogres
  4 sky beasts
  A human simulacrum (Vaults:1)
  6 giant goldfish
  4 phantoms
  8 crocodiles
  A boring beetle (Lair:8)
  14 centaurs
  13 orc warriors
  9 big kobolds
  4 brain worms (D:12)
  6 giant slugs
  A giant slug zombie (D:14)
  A human zombie (Vaults:3)
  32 giant frogs
  3 cyclops skeletons
  11 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:1)
  2 eyes of draining (D:12)
  9 wights
  5 scorpions
  4 electric eels
  7 goliath beetles
  6 crimson imps
  2 jellies
  A giant frog zombie (D:9)
  6 orc priests
  3 orc wizards
  Crazy Yiuf (D:3)
  A draconian simulacrum (IceCv)
  10 hounds
  5 troll simulacra (IceCv)
  3 big fish
  A kobold skeleton (D:12)
  13 iguanas
  29 worker ants
  Jessica (D:3)
  41 sheep
  A centaur simulacrum (IceCv)
  A big kobold skeleton (D:10)
  Terence (D:2)
  3 gnolls (D:4)
  36 adders
  2 ogre simulacra (IceCv)
  2 inept feature mimics (D:6)
  A naga simulacrum (IceCv)
  A white imp (Vaults:1)
  12 green rats
  A shadow imp (D:10)
  A giant mite (D:8)
  6 worms
  2 ufetubi (Vaults:1)
  An orc skeleton (D:9)
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  6 giant geckos
  58 orcs
  29 bats
  A bat zombie (D:5)
  6 giant cockroaches
  16 goblins
  14 hobgoblins
  9 quokkas
  6 ball pythons
  4 giant newts
  2 giant spores
  25 jackals
  37 kobolds
  18 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:4)
  6 ballistomycetes
  A fungus (Swamp:1)
1599 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A jelly (D:4)
1 creature vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  Erica (D:13)
  An unseen horror (D:14)
  A blink frog (Swamp:5)
  A deep elf fighter (Vaults:1)
  An adder (D:3)
  5 orcs
  A giant spore (D:12)
  A rat (D:3)
  30 fungi
  30 plants
72 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1672 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Utis, the Tengu Gladiator, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 12/12 MP: 1/1
   367 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/17 MP: 3/3
   942 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades
  1098 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 21/21 MP: 4/4
  1913 | D:2      | Noticed Terence
  1932 | D:2      | Killed Terence
  1932 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/26 MP: 5/5
  2635 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  3157 | D:3      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  3225 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 30/30 MP: 7/7
  3502 | D:3      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  3529 | D:3      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  3529 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades
  3837 | D:3      | Noticed Jessica
  3946 | D:3      | Killed Jessica
  4123 | D:4      | Found Grakkume's Assorted Antiques.
  4281 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 29/35 MP: 8/8
  4613 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging
  5378 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5433 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 40/40 MP: 6/9
  6062 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
  6726 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  6732 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  6860 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru
  7258 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 44/44 MP: 11/11
  7400 | D:6      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  7727 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging
  7924 | D:6      | Acquired Okawaru's first power
  8337 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging
  9039 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/48 MP: 8/12
  9394 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
  9679 | D:7      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  9848 | D:7      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 10107 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades
 10675 | D:8      | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
 10812 | D:9      | Found Ofaiw's Elemental Accessories.
 10994 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 11041 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 53/53 MP: 11/13
 11229 | D:9      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 11440 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11972 | D:10     | Killed an unseen horror
 11972 | D:10     | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
 12144 | D:10     | Found Skaqag's Jewellery Emporium.
 12149 | D:10     | Bought an uncursed ring of see invisible for 195 gold pieces
 12149 | D:10     | Bought a cursed ring of hunger for 26 gold pieces
 12244 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
 12361 | D:11     | Noticed Fannar
 12374 | D:11     | Found Doumirch's Assorted Antiques.
 12443 | D:11     | Noticed an unseen horror
 12474 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 12566 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 12597 | D:11     | Bought a forked iron wand for 160 gold pieces
 12606 | D:11     | Found Thossi Fitif's Food Emporium.
 12757 | D:11     | Found Cleit's Book Shop.
 13102 | D:12     | Noticed a giant orange brain
 13111 | D:12     | Killed a giant orange brain
 13111 | D:12     | Acquired Okawaru's second power
 13111 | D:12     | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
 13111 | D:12     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 57/57 MP: 12/15
 13210 | D:12     | Noticed a hill giant
 13232 | D:12     | Killed a hill giant
 13909 | D:12     | Received a gift from Okawaru
 13944 | D:12     | Noticed a hill giant
 13964 | D:12     | Killed a hill giant
 14457 | D:13     | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
 14497 | Bazaar   | Entered a bazaar
 14497 | Bazaar   | Found Skeomef's Antique Armour Shop.
 14518 | Bazaar   | Found Seireha's Armour Shop.
 14527 | Bazaar   | Found Lahijeh's Book Emporium.
 14536 | Bazaar   | Found Xetom's Antique Weapon Boutique.
 14577 | Bazaar   | Bought a glowing ring mail for 124 gold pieces
 14621 | D:13     | Noticed a hill giant
 14648 | D:13     | Killed a hill giant
 14696 | D:13     | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 14992 | D:12     | Reached skill level 14 in Dodging
 15675 | D:13     | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 15675 | D:13     | Noticed a vault guard
 15714 | D:13     | Killed a vault guard
 15714 | D:13     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 48/64 MP: 14/16
 15716 | D:13     | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 15867 | D:13     | Noticed a hill giant
 15912 | D:13     | Killed a hill giant
 16075 | D:13     | Noticed an unseen horror
 16094 | D:13     | Killed an unseen horror
 16134 | D:13     | Noticed Erica
 16152 | D:13     | Killed Erica
 16381 | D:13     | Received a gift from Okawaru
 16381 | D:13     | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 16438 | D:13     | Noticed Gastronok
 16521 | D:13     | Killed Gastronok
 16673 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 16852 | D:14     | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 17135 | D:14     | Noticed Roxanne
 17156 | D:14     | Noticed Maud
 17223 | D:14     | Noticed Harold
 17297 | D:14     | Killed Maud
 17366 | D:14     | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 17374 | D:14     | Noticed Donald
 17428 | D:14     | Killed Donald
 17428 | D:14     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 58/72 MP: 17/22
 17666 | D:14     | Noticed Urug
 17732 | D:13     | Got a pitted jade ring
 17829 | D:14     | Received a gift from Okawaru
 17969 | D:14     | Killed Harold
 17969 | D:14     | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 18107 | D:14     | Killed Urug
 18643 | D:14     | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 18835 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 18900 | D:15     | Identified the ring "Craff" {Ice MR++ Str-1} (You took it off a big kobold on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 19322 | D:15     | Received a gift from Okawaru
 19333 | D:15     | Found a frozen archway.
 19453 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 19981 | IceCv    | Got a blackened dagger {flame}
 20597 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
 20748 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 20748 | D:11     | Reached XP level 14. HP: 60/84 MP: 24/26
 20965 | D:11     | Killed Fannar
 21000 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 21406 | D:11     | Identified the Almanac of Beguiling and Ignition
 21450 | D:11     | Found Bacoemp's Armour Emporium.
 21834 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 23034 | Lair:2   | Identified the +4,+5 dagger of Innocence {flame, rF+} (You took it off a necromancer in an ice cave)
 23144 | Lair:2   | Upgraded the game from 0.14.1-22-g2730a98 to 0.14.1-23-g35e4e54
 23911 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 25112 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 25332 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 25356 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 25920 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 26232 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 26319 | Lair:4   | Got a faintly glowing bastard sword {god gift}
 26320 | Lair:4   | Identified the +7,+2 bastard sword "Gielogez" {venom, *Tele rPois rC++} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 26826 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 94/94 MP: 24/27
 26844 | Lair:5   | Found a dark tunnel.
 26879 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 28748 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 28871 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 15 in Long Blades
 29659 | Lair:7   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 29666 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 29996 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 31022 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 16 in Long Blades
 31124 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 32270 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 16. HP: 94/100 MP: 26/28
 32382 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 33080 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 17 in Long Blades
 33291 | Lair:8   | Identified a +3 rod of striking (12/12) (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 33717 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 34266 | Snake:1  | Noticed Kirke
 34703 | Snake:1  | Received a gift from Okawaru
 34765 | Snake:1  | Killed Kirke
 36274 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Okawaru
 36424 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 18 in Long Blades
 37670 | Snake:3  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 77/108 MP: 26/29
 38453 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Okawaru
 38804 | Snake:4  | Noticed Aizul
 38820 | Snake:4  | Killed Aizul
 38834 | Snake:4  | Noticed Azrael
 38860 | Snake:4  | Killed Azrael
 39161 | Snake:4  | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 39740 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 19 in Long Blades
 39968 | Snake:4  | Found Klylie's Armour Shoppe.
 39995 | Snake:4  | Noticed Mara
 40010 | Snake:4  | Killed Mara
 41274 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 41289 | Swamp:1  | Received a gift from Okawaru
 43306 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 43789 | Swamp:2  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 117/119 MP: 29/29
 43832 | Swamp:2  | Received a gift from Okawaru
 43833 | Swamp:2  | Got a brightly glowing long sword {god gift}
 43835 | Swamp:2  | Identified the +10,+6 long sword of Okawaru's Scorn {slice, rElec Str+4 Int+2} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 2 of the Swamp)
 46743 | Swamp:4  | Received a gift from Okawaru
 46747 | Swamp:4  | Got a faintly humming leather armour {god gift}
 46757 | Swamp:4  | Identified the -1 leather armour "Gonunic" {Str-1 Dex-2 Int+2} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 4 of the Swamp)
 47753 | Snake:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 48651 | Snake:5  | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 48969 | Snake:5  | Noticed Vashnia
 49218 | Snake:5  | Killed Vashnia
 49362 | Snake:5  | Noticed Wiglaf
 49389 | Snake:5  | Killed Wiglaf
 49733 | Snake:5  | Received a gift from Okawaru
 49787 | Snake:5  | Got a slimy plate armour {god gift}
 50155 | Snake:5  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 117/127 MP: 30/30
 50182 | Snake:5  | Identified the +2 plate armour of Crawling {MR+ Str+1} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 5 of the Snake Pit)
 50409 | Snake:5  | Noticed Asterion
 50431 | Snake:5  | Killed Asterion
 51297 | Snake:5  | Received a gift from Okawaru
 51762 | Snake:5  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 52215 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 52461 | Swamp:5  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 52823 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 52983 | Vaults:1 | Got a shimmering scale mail
 53095 | Vaults:1 | Identified the +4 scale mail of the Forgotten Wonders {rC+ Dam+6} (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults)
 53247 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 53425 | Vaults:1 | Identified a +0 cloak of preservation (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 1 of the Vaults)
 53460 | Vaults:1 | Found Thefanom's Gadget Shop.
 53468 | Vaults:1 | Bought a wand of teleportation (5) for 459 gold pieces
 53473 | Vaults:1 | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Teleport
 53479 | Vaults:1 | Learned a level 5 spell: Phase Shift
 54439 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Norris
 54464 | Vaults:1 | Killed Norris
 54649 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 126/137 MP: 23/31
 55049 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 56392 | Vaults:2 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
 56395 | Vaults:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 56676 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 57531 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Long sword        |    87 |   171 |   445 |   398 |       |    18 |    15 ||  1134
       Scimitar          |       |       |       |   346 |   164 |   263 |    42 ||   815
       Great sword       |       |       |       |       |  1534 |   445 |       ||  1979
       Claymore          |       |       |       |       |    21 |   302 |       ||   323
       Demon blade       |       |       |       |       |       |   820 |   901 ||  1721
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |       |    59 |    74 |     8 |       |       ||   141
Throw: Dart              |    15 |    61 |    18 |    16 |    13 |    12 |       ||   135
       Stone             |     2 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |       |     6 |       |       ||     6
Invok: Heroism           |       |       |     1 |    15 |    22 |    35 |    17 ||    90
       Finesse           |       |       |       |     2 |     3 |    11 |     5 ||    21
 Abil: Fly               |       |    11 |    30 |    34 |    46 |     1 |       ||   122
Evoke: Wand              |       |     1 |    11 |    19 |    19 |       |     1 ||    51
  Use: Scroll            |       |    11 |     9 |     7 |    15 |    13 |     1 ||    56
       Potion            |       |     2 |       |     6 |     2 |       |     2 ||    12
 Stab: Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     1 |       ||     3
       Sleeping          |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     2 |       ||     4
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1


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Post Tuesday, 10th June 2014, 14:49

Re: Which Armour: AC vs. EV vs. +Dam

scmail is pretty great, particularly seeing how you have very good defenses in that dump even without hero on.

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Post Tuesday, 10th June 2014, 14:56

Re: Which Armour: AC vs. EV vs. +Dam

I'd be inclined to stick w/ the scale mail, at least until you have more ?EA to burn.

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Post Tuesday, 10th June 2014, 15:03

Re: Which Armour: AC vs. EV vs. +Dam

I would wear ring of dexterity by default.

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Post Tuesday, 10th June 2014, 17:07

Re: Which Armour: AC vs. EV vs. +Dam

If you have enough ?EA to get the pda to high enchantment (at least +5 or +6) then I might use that (since it will give you significantly better defenses), but I would assume that's probably not true, so in that case stick with the scale mail.

+0 PDA definitely does not beat your scale mail.

I wouldn't consider CPA on this char, it'll at the least be inferior to the PDA.

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Post Wednesday, 11th June 2014, 00:00

Re: Which Armour: AC vs. EV vs. +Dam

CPA just isn't an option for this character. The EV hit wouldn't be offset by by the AC bonus, and even finding something like the orange CPA would be a questionable choice.

I'm with the others: stick with the scale until you can find some enchant armours for the PDA.
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Post Wednesday, 11th June 2014, 23:10

Re: Which Armour: AC vs. EV vs. +Dam

Utis wrote:can there ever by enough damage?

No, especially if you consider the way crawl rolls for damage.

Still, maybe more protection is more valuable at this point, I don't know.

I think it's better to weigh these options in concrete rather than abstract terms. Would you wear a +6 ring of slaying over a +6 AC ring? Most of the time I would. How about a +6 ring of slaying vs. a +12 AC ring? Well...
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