Ziggurat Zagger
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Ask fellow adventurers how to stay alive in the deep, dark, dangerous dungeon below, or share your own accumulated wisdom.
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Lasty wrote:But why are you doing that?
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Sandman25 wrote:Lasty wrote:But why are you doing that?
Because as I wrote in my first post, we had a very long thread about meleeing GM some time ago.
You assumed something else but some of those assumptions do not apply to my posts and now we have this small misunderstanding.
Thank you for the discussion.
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Lasty wrote:Just pointing to fsim is not usually helpful, both because fsim is not always a reliable simulation of real situations, and because almost everything about the character and monster being put into fsim needs to be considered and calibrated to get a meaningful result, and all of those factors need to be reported in order for the resulting data to mean anything to anyone else.
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Sar wrote:Well actually I don't, but at least dwhip does some damage when it lands, and is a faster weapons so you get more attempts.
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tabstorm wrote:all this thread is saying is that a DE with no melee skill at all
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duvessa wrote:and no spellstabstorm wrote:all this thread is saying is that a DE with no melee skill at all
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-658-g449be1d (tiles) character file.
DEFE the Eclecticist (Deep Elf Venom Mage) Turns: 1929, Time: 00:16:06
HP 40/112 AC 15 Str 9 (10) XL: 18 Next: 1%
MP 22/42 EV 22 Int 22 (23) God: No God 0 (0)
Gold 0 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 1 memorised, 49 levels left
rFire . . . SeeInvis . c - +0 lajatang (slice)
rCold . . . Clarity . a - +2 robe
rNeg . . . Conserve . (no shield)
rPois . rCorr . e - +2 helmet
rElec . rRot . d - +2 cloak
SustAb . . Spirit . f - +1 pair of gloves
rMut . Warding . o - +2 pair of boots
Saprov . . . Stasis . (no amulet)
MR +.... (no ring)
(no ring)
@: mighty, very slightly contaminated, hasted, very quick, somewhat resistant to
hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: no striking features
a: no special abilities
You are on level 1 of the Dungeon.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 1 of its levels.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
c - a +0,+0 lajatang of slicing (weapon)
g - a +4,+4 flail
k - a +5,+5 demon whip of flaming
Armour
a - a +2 robe (worn)
d - a +2 cloak (worn)
e - a +2 helmet (worn)
f - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
o - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
Jewellery
j - an uncursed ring of see invisible {sInv, !d}
n - a square zirconium amulet
Potions
h - 7 potions of restore abilities
i - 7 potions of curing
l - 7 potions of haste
m - 8 potions of might
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook
Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
Cure Poison Poison 2
Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5
Skills:
- Level 12.0 Fighting
- Level 10.0 Maces & Flails
- Level 12.0 Staves
+ Level 15.0 Dodging
+ Level 16.8 Stealth
+ Level 16.9 Spellcasting
+ Level 14.9 Poison Magic
You have 49 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
z - Sting Conj/Pois 25 (25) 1% 1 0
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (1/15)
Altars:
Message History
f - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
You finish taking off your +2 robe.
You finish putting on your +2 robe.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel yourself speed up.
You are very lightly contaminated with residual magic.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel very mighty all of a sudden.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
A ghost moth comes into view.
You remove your ring of see invisible {sInv, !d}.
What do you say?
t - Shout!
Orders for allies: a - Attack new target.
r - Retreat! s - Stop attacking.
w - Wait here. f - Follow me.
Anything else - Stay silent.
You shout for attention!
Something hits you.
You feel dopey.
Deactivating autopickup; reactivate with Ctrl-A.
Something misses you. Something closely misses you.
Damage: -5%(-6hp) hp: 95%(106hp)
You slash something!
You barely miss something. Something hits you! Something closely misses you.
Something closely misses you.
Damage: -9%(-10hp) hp: 86%(96hp)
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you! Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -8%(-9hp) hp: 78%(87hp)
You slash something!
You barely miss something. Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel weakened.
Something closely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -12%(-14hp) hp: 66%(73hp)
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something closely misses you. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You are poisoned.
Something poisons you!
Damage: -6%(-6hp) hp: 60%(67hp)
You miss something.
You feel very sick.
Damage: -2%(-3hp) hp: 58%(64hp)
You completely miss something. You feel sick.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something stings you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Damage: -5%(-5hp) hp: 53%(59hp)
You miss something. You feel sick. Something misses you. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something barely misses you.
Damage: -3%(-3hp) hp: 50%(56hp)
You barely miss something. You feel sick.
Damage: -0%(-1hp) hp: 50%(55hp)
You slash something!
You feel very sick.
Something closely misses you. x2
Something stings you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Damage: -5%(-5hp) hp: 45%(50hp)
You miss something. You feel sick.
Damage: -1%(-1hp) hp: 44%(49hp)
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel better. Something closely misses you. Something closely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You miss something. Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you but does no damage. Something stings you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Huge Dmg: -10%(-12hp) hp: 41%(45hp)
You hit something. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something barely misses you. Something closely misses you.
Damage: -5%(-5hp) hp: 36%(40hp)
You closely miss something.
You slice something!!
Reactivating autopickup.
You feel a bit more experienced.
Saving game... please wait.
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#..)@<.+..##.#
#..#...#..##.######
#..##.##...........
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#.# #.# #.........
There are no monsters in sight!
Vanquished Creatures
4 ghost moths (D:1)
A hobgoblin (D:1)
A ghost (D:1)
6 creatures vanquished.
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | DEFE, the Deep Elf Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5
0 | D:1 | Entered wizard mode.
0 | D:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
0 | D:1 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 5/23
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 5/25
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/27
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 5/29
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/32 MP: 5/31
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 5/32
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 5/33
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 5/34
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 50/50 MP: 5/36
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 5/36
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 59/59 MP: 5/37
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 63/63 MP: 5/38
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 5/39
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 5/40
113 | D:1 | Lost strength.
113 | D:1 | Lost dexterity.
113 | D:1 | Lost intelligence.
121 | D:1 | HP: 2/92 [poisoned by a ghost moth]
122 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
... while paralysed
124 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:80 current:12
124 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
126 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:80 current:12
402 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:46 current:45
598 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:26 current:45
601 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:12 current:20
603 | D:1 | HP: 3/92 [something (5)]
604 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:8 current:3
604 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
1092 | D:1 | Slain by a ghost moth (16 damage)
1257 | D:1 | Mangled by a ghost moth (15 damage)
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 56/97 MP: 6/41
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 58/102 MP: 6/41
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 60/107 MP: 6/42
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Flail | | | | |116015 | ||116015
Demon whip | | | | |112066 | ||112066
Lajatang | | | | | | 20 || 20
Use: Potion | | | | | 15 | 4 || 19
Stab: Sleeping | | | | | 1 | || 1
Vault maps used:
D:1: dpeg_arrival_shelter, minmay_misc_feat_secret_circle
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-658-g449be1d (tiles) character file.
DEFE the Eclecticist (Deep Elf Venom Mage) Turns: 2346, Time: 00:17:49
HP 7/112 AC 15 Str 9 (10) XL: 18 Next: 1%
MP 1/42 EV 21 Int 23 God: No God 0 (0)
Gold 0 SH 0 Dex 13 (15) Spells: 1 memorised, 49 levels left
rFire . . . SeeInvis . c - +0 lajatang (slice)
rCold . . . Clarity . a - +2 robe
rNeg . . . Conserve . (no shield)
rPois . rCorr . e - +2 helmet
rElec . rRot . d - +2 cloak
SustAb . . Spirit . f - +1 pair of gloves
rMut . Warding . o - +2 pair of boots
Saprov . . . Stasis . (no amulet)
MR +.... (no ring)
(no ring)
@: mighty, very slightly contaminated, hasted, very quick, somewhat resistant to
hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: no striking features
a: no special abilities
You are on level 1 of the Dungeon.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 1 of its levels.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
c - a +0,+0 lajatang of slicing (weapon)
g - a +4,+4 flail
k - a +5,+5 demon whip of flaming
Armour
a - a +2 robe (worn)
d - a +2 cloak (worn)
e - a +2 helmet (worn)
f - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
o - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
Comestibles
p - 11 bread rations
Jewellery
j - an uncursed ring of see invisible {sInv, !d}
n - a square zirconium amulet
Potions
h - 6 potions of restore abilities
i - 6 potions of curing
l - 6 potions of haste
m - 7 potions of might
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook
Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
Cure Poison Poison 2
Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5
Skills:
- Level 12.0 Fighting
- Level 10.0 Maces & Flails
- Level 12.0 Staves
+ Level 15.0 Dodging
+ Level 16.8 Stealth
+ Level 16.9 Spellcasting
+ Level 14.9 Poison Magic
You have 49 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
z - Sting Conj/Pois 25 (25) 1% 1 0
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (1/15)
Altars:
Message History
Something stings you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You barely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something misses you. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something barely misses you.
You hit something.
You barely miss something. Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel clumsy.
Something closely misses you.
Huge Dmg: -16%(-18hp) hp: 39%(43hp)
You slash something! Something hits you but does no damage.
Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You miss something.
You slice something!! Something hits you but does no damage.
Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You barely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You barely miss something.
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something closely misses you. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Damage: -6%(-7hp) hp: 34%(37hp)
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -2%(-2hp) hp: 32%(35hp)
You hit something.
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You closely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you.
Something misses you.
You closely miss something.
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something hits you but does no damage. Something misses you.
Something barely misses you.
You hit something but do no damage.
You barely miss something. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something misses you.
You closely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something barely misses you. x2
Something closely misses you.
You closely miss something.
You barely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel weakened.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -1%(-1hp) hp: 33%(36hp)
You barely miss something. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something barely misses you. x2
You closely miss something.
You hit something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something barely misses you. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -1%(-1hp) hp: 32%(35hp)
You miss something. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something barely misses you. Something stings you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Damage: -7%(-7hp) hp: 25%(28hp)
You closely miss something.
You slice something!!
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you.
Huge Dmg: -6%(-7hp) hp: 20%(22hp)
You slash something!
You miss something. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something stings you but does no damage.
Mandatory exit. Think how to survive! ; Huge Dmg: -13%(-15hp) hp: 7%(7hp)
Save game and exit?
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#..#...#..##.#
#..[@{.+..##.#
#..#...#..##.######
#..##.##...........
#...###...##.######
#####.........##.######
#......................
#.##...................
#.######.#####.........
#.# #.# #.........
There are no monsters in sight!
Vanquished Creatures
4 ghost moths (D:1)
A hobgoblin (D:1)
A ghost (D:1)
6 creatures vanquished.
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | DEFE, the Deep Elf Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5
0 | D:1 | Entered wizard mode.
0 | D:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
0 | D:1 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 5/23
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 5/25
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/27
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 5/29
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/32 MP: 5/31
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 5/32
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 5/33
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 5/34
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 50/50 MP: 5/36
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 5/36
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 59/59 MP: 5/37
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 63/63 MP: 5/38
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 5/39
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 5/40
113 | D:1 | Lost strength.
113 | D:1 | Lost dexterity.
113 | D:1 | Lost intelligence.
121 | D:1 | HP: 2/92 [poisoned by a ghost moth]
122 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
... while paralysed
124 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:80 current:12
124 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
126 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:80 current:12
402 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:46 current:45
598 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:26 current:45
601 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:12 current:20
603 | D:1 | HP: 3/92 [something (5)]
604 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:8 current:3
604 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
1092 | D:1 | Slain by a ghost moth (16 damage)
1257 | D:1 | Mangled by a ghost moth (15 damage)
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 56/97 MP: 6/41
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 58/102 MP: 6/41
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 60/107 MP: 6/42
2346 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:15 current:7
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Flail | | | | |116015 | ||116015
Demon whip | | | | |112066 | ||112066
Lajatang | | | | | | 54 || 54
Use: Potion | | | | | 15 | 8 || 23
Stab: Sleeping | | | | | 1 | || 1
Vault maps used:
D:1: dpeg_arrival_shelter, minmay_misc_feat_secret_circle
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dck wrote:never forget that greater ghost moths exist.
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Sandman25 wrote:I repeated the tests. Quaffed a potion of haste/might before the fight, potion of curing at 49 HP. Won with 40/112 HP.
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-658-g449be1d (tiles) character file.
DEFE the Eclecticist (Deep Elf Venom Mage) Turns: 1929, Time: 00:16:06
HP 40/112 AC 15 Str 9 (10) XL: 18 Next: 1%
MP 22/42 EV 22 Int 22 (23) God: No God 0 (0)
Gold 0 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 1 memorised, 49 levels left
rFire . . . SeeInvis . c - +0 lajatang (slice)
rCold . . . Clarity . a - +2 robe
rNeg . . . Conserve . (no shield)
rPois . rCorr . e - +2 helmet
rElec . rRot . d - +2 cloak
SustAb . . Spirit . f - +1 pair of gloves
rMut . Warding . o - +2 pair of boots
Saprov . . . Stasis . (no amulet)
MR +.... (no ring)
(no ring)
@: mighty, very slightly contaminated, hasted, very quick, somewhat resistant to
hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: no striking features
a: no special abilities
You are on level 1 of the Dungeon.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 1 of its levels.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
c - a +0,+0 lajatang of slicing (weapon)
g - a +4,+4 flail
k - a +5,+5 demon whip of flaming
Armour
a - a +2 robe (worn)
d - a +2 cloak (worn)
e - a +2 helmet (worn)
f - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
o - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
Jewellery
j - an uncursed ring of see invisible {sInv, !d}
n - a square zirconium amulet
Potions
h - 7 potions of restore abilities
i - 7 potions of curing
l - 7 potions of haste
m - 8 potions of might
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook
Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
Cure Poison Poison 2
Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5
Skills:
- Level 12.0 Fighting
- Level 10.0 Maces & Flails
- Level 12.0 Staves
+ Level 15.0 Dodging
+ Level 16.8 Stealth
+ Level 16.9 Spellcasting
+ Level 14.9 Poison Magic
You have 49 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
z - Sting Conj/Pois 25 (25) 1% 1 0
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (1/15)
Altars:
Message History
f - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
You finish taking off your +2 robe.
You finish putting on your +2 robe.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel yourself speed up.
You are very lightly contaminated with residual magic.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel very mighty all of a sudden.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
A ghost moth comes into view.
You remove your ring of see invisible {sInv, !d}.
What do you say?
t - Shout!
Orders for allies: a - Attack new target.
r - Retreat! s - Stop attacking.
w - Wait here. f - Follow me.
Anything else - Stay silent.
You shout for attention!
Something hits you.
You feel dopey.
Deactivating autopickup; reactivate with Ctrl-A.
Something misses you. Something closely misses you.
Damage: -5%(-6hp) hp: 95%(106hp)
You slash something!
You barely miss something. Something hits you! Something closely misses you.
Something closely misses you.
Damage: -9%(-10hp) hp: 86%(96hp)
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you! Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -8%(-9hp) hp: 78%(87hp)
You slash something!
You barely miss something. Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel weakened.
Something closely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -12%(-14hp) hp: 66%(73hp)
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something closely misses you. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You are poisoned.
Something poisons you!
Damage: -6%(-6hp) hp: 60%(67hp)
You miss something.
You feel very sick.
Damage: -2%(-3hp) hp: 58%(64hp)
You completely miss something. You feel sick.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something stings you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Damage: -5%(-5hp) hp: 53%(59hp)
You miss something. You feel sick. Something misses you. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something barely misses you.
Damage: -3%(-3hp) hp: 50%(56hp)
You barely miss something. You feel sick.
Damage: -0%(-1hp) hp: 50%(55hp)
You slash something!
You feel very sick.
Something closely misses you. x2
Something stings you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Damage: -5%(-5hp) hp: 45%(50hp)
You miss something. You feel sick.
Damage: -1%(-1hp) hp: 44%(49hp)
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel better. Something closely misses you. Something closely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You miss something. Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you but does no damage. Something stings you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Huge Dmg: -10%(-12hp) hp: 41%(45hp)
You hit something. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something barely misses you. Something closely misses you.
Damage: -5%(-5hp) hp: 36%(40hp)
You closely miss something.
You slice something!!
Reactivating autopickup.
You feel a bit more experienced.
Saving game... please wait.
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#.........##.######
#.........##.......
#...###...##.######
#..##.##..##.#
#..#...#..##.#
#..)@<.+..##.#
#..#...#..##.######
#..##.##...........
#...###...##.######
#####.........##.######
#......................
#.##...................
#.######.#####.........
#.# #.# #.........
There are no monsters in sight!
Vanquished Creatures
4 ghost moths (D:1)
A hobgoblin (D:1)
A ghost (D:1)
6 creatures vanquished.
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | DEFE, the Deep Elf Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5
0 | D:1 | Entered wizard mode.
0 | D:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
0 | D:1 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 5/23
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 5/25
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/27
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 5/29
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/32 MP: 5/31
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 5/32
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 5/33
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 5/34
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 50/50 MP: 5/36
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 5/36
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 59/59 MP: 5/37
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 63/63 MP: 5/38
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 5/39
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 5/40
113 | D:1 | Lost strength.
113 | D:1 | Lost dexterity.
113 | D:1 | Lost intelligence.
121 | D:1 | HP: 2/92 [poisoned by a ghost moth]
122 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
... while paralysed
124 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:80 current:12
124 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
126 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:80 current:12
402 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:46 current:45
598 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:26 current:45
601 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:12 current:20
603 | D:1 | HP: 3/92 [something (5)]
604 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:8 current:3
604 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
1092 | D:1 | Slain by a ghost moth (16 damage)
1257 | D:1 | Mangled by a ghost moth (15 damage)
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 56/97 MP: 6/41
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 58/102 MP: 6/41
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 60/107 MP: 6/42
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Flail | | | | |116015 | ||116015
Demon whip | | | | |112066 | ||112066
Lajatang | | | | | | 20 || 20
Use: Potion | | | | | 15 | 4 || 19
Stab: Sleeping | | | | | 1 | || 1
Vault maps used:
D:1: dpeg_arrival_shelter, minmay_misc_feat_secret_circle
Then tried again the same fight.
Might/Haste before fight, quaffed a potion of curing at red posion and am about to die despite no poison. Unlucky rolls.
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-658-g449be1d (tiles) character file.
DEFE the Eclecticist (Deep Elf Venom Mage) Turns: 2346, Time: 00:17:49
HP 7/112 AC 15 Str 9 (10) XL: 18 Next: 1%
MP 1/42 EV 21 Int 23 God: No God 0 (0)
Gold 0 SH 0 Dex 13 (15) Spells: 1 memorised, 49 levels left
rFire . . . SeeInvis . c - +0 lajatang (slice)
rCold . . . Clarity . a - +2 robe
rNeg . . . Conserve . (no shield)
rPois . rCorr . e - +2 helmet
rElec . rRot . d - +2 cloak
SustAb . . Spirit . f - +1 pair of gloves
rMut . Warding . o - +2 pair of boots
Saprov . . . Stasis . (no amulet)
MR +.... (no ring)
(no ring)
@: mighty, very slightly contaminated, hasted, very quick, somewhat resistant to
hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: no striking features
a: no special abilities
You are on level 1 of the Dungeon.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 1 of its levels.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
c - a +0,+0 lajatang of slicing (weapon)
g - a +4,+4 flail
k - a +5,+5 demon whip of flaming
Armour
a - a +2 robe (worn)
d - a +2 cloak (worn)
e - a +2 helmet (worn)
f - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
o - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
Comestibles
p - 11 bread rations
Jewellery
j - an uncursed ring of see invisible {sInv, !d}
n - a square zirconium amulet
Potions
h - 6 potions of restore abilities
i - 6 potions of curing
l - 6 potions of haste
m - 7 potions of might
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook
Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
Cure Poison Poison 2
Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5
Skills:
- Level 12.0 Fighting
- Level 10.0 Maces & Flails
- Level 12.0 Staves
+ Level 15.0 Dodging
+ Level 16.8 Stealth
+ Level 16.9 Spellcasting
+ Level 14.9 Poison Magic
You have 49 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
z - Sting Conj/Pois 25 (25) 1% 1 0
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (1/15)
Altars:
Message History
Something stings you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You barely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something misses you. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something barely misses you.
You hit something.
You barely miss something. Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel clumsy.
Something closely misses you.
Huge Dmg: -16%(-18hp) hp: 39%(43hp)
You slash something! Something hits you but does no damage.
Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You miss something.
You slice something!! Something hits you but does no damage.
Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You barely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You barely miss something.
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something closely misses you. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Damage: -6%(-7hp) hp: 34%(37hp)
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -2%(-2hp) hp: 32%(35hp)
You hit something.
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You closely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you.
Something misses you.
You closely miss something.
You miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something hits you but does no damage. Something misses you.
Something barely misses you.
You hit something but do no damage.
You barely miss something. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something misses you.
You closely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something barely misses you. x2
Something closely misses you.
You closely miss something.
You barely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel weakened.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -1%(-1hp) hp: 33%(36hp)
You barely miss something. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something barely misses you. x2
You closely miss something.
You hit something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something barely misses you. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -1%(-1hp) hp: 32%(35hp)
You miss something. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something barely misses you. Something stings you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Damage: -7%(-7hp) hp: 25%(28hp)
You closely miss something.
You slice something!!
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you.
Huge Dmg: -6%(-7hp) hp: 20%(22hp)
You slash something!
You miss something. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something stings you but does no damage.
Mandatory exit. Think how to survive! ; Huge Dmg: -13%(-15hp) hp: 7%(7hp)
Save game and exit?
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#.........##.......
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#..##.##..##.#
#..#...#..##.#
#..[@{.+..##.#
#..#...#..##.######
#..##.##...........
#...###...##.######
#####.........##.######
#......................
#.##...................
#.######.#####.........
#.# #.# #.........
There are no monsters in sight!
Vanquished Creatures
4 ghost moths (D:1)
A hobgoblin (D:1)
A ghost (D:1)
6 creatures vanquished.
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | DEFE, the Deep Elf Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5
0 | D:1 | Entered wizard mode.
0 | D:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
0 | D:1 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 5/23
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 5/25
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/27
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 5/29
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/32 MP: 5/31
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 5/32
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 5/33
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 5/34
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 50/50 MP: 5/36
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 5/36
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 59/59 MP: 5/37
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 63/63 MP: 5/38
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 5/39
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 5/40
113 | D:1 | Lost strength.
113 | D:1 | Lost dexterity.
113 | D:1 | Lost intelligence.
121 | D:1 | HP: 2/92 [poisoned by a ghost moth]
122 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
... while paralysed
124 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:80 current:12
124 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
126 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:80 current:12
402 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:46 current:45
598 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:26 current:45
601 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:12 current:20
603 | D:1 | HP: 3/92 [something (5)]
604 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:8 current:3
604 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
1092 | D:1 | Slain by a ghost moth (16 damage)
1257 | D:1 | Mangled by a ghost moth (15 damage)
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 56/97 MP: 6/41
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 58/102 MP: 6/41
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 60/107 MP: 6/42
2346 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:15 current:7
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Flail | | | | |116015 | ||116015
Demon whip | | | | |112066 | ||112066
Lajatang | | | | | | 54 || 54
Use: Potion | | | | | 15 | 8 || 23
Stab: Sleeping | | | | | 1 | || 1
Vault maps used:
D:1: dpeg_arrival_shelter, minmay_misc_feat_secret_circle
Ziggurat Zagger
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tabstorm wrote:You forgot the agility pot which is indeed relevant. furthermore it seems to have taken int on level ups, which is wrong when trying to approach optimality, you should take all dex instead. when potted you should have 30+ EV.
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Abyss Ambulator
Posts: 1194
Joined: Friday, 18th April 2014, 01:41
Sandman25 wrote:tabstorm wrote:You forgot the agility pot which is indeed relevant. furthermore it seems to have taken int on level ups, which is wrong when trying to approach optimality, you should take all dex instead. when potted you should have 30+ EV.
Well, I didn't forget about it. Agility + Haste + Might before fight with every Ghosh Moth is too much IMHO. Maybe berserk is a better option.
Ziggurat Zagger
Posts: 11111
Joined: Friday, 8th February 2013, 12:00
WalkerBoh wrote:Man, you can't use FSIM to support arguments. The assumptions made in FSIM are completely different than what actually occurs in a Crawl game, as people have pointed out. FSIM is most useful for comparing damage for different weapons against a given foe, and EVEN THEN it still is relatively worthless.
Ziggurat Zagger
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duvessa wrote:dude sandman25 im pretty sure everyone agrees with you that fighting a ghost moth as a deep elf with 15/21 and no SInv and a +0 slicing weapon and without casting any spells is bad
they just disagree that anyone except you would misunderstand crawl badly enough to think that it's the correct way to fight ghost moths
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-658-g449be1d (tiles) character file.
DEFE the Unseen (Deep Elf Venom Mage) Turns: 2772, Time: 00:20:09
HP 28/112 AC 15 Str 9 (10) XL: 18 Next: 3%
MP 1/42 EV 30 Int 21 (23) God: No God 0 (0)
Gold 0 SH 0 Dex 19 (20) Spells: 1 memorised, 49 levels left
rFire . . . SeeInvis . q - +4 dagger
rCold . . . Clarity . a - +2 robe
rNeg . . . Conserve . (no shield)
rPois . rCorr . e - +2 helmet
rElec . rRot . d - +2 cloak
SustAb . . Spirit . f - +1 pair of gloves
rMut . Warding . o - +2 pair of boots
Saprov . . . Stasis . (no amulet)
MR +.... (no ring)
(no ring)
@: exhausted, mighty, agile, very slightly contaminated, hasted and slowed,
somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extraordinarily stealthy
A: no striking features
a: no special abilities
You are on level 1 of the Dungeon.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 1 of its levels.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
c - a +0,+0 lajatang of slicing
g - a +4,+4 flail
k - a +5,+5 demon whip of flaming
q - a +4,+4 dagger (weapon)
Armour
a - a +2 robe (worn)
d - a +2 cloak (worn)
e - a +2 helmet (worn)
f - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
o - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
Comestibles
p - 11 bread rations
Jewellery
j - an uncursed ring of see invisible {sInv, !d}
n - a square zirconium amulet
Potions
h - 5 potions of restore abilities
i - 6 potions of curing
l - 5 potions of haste
m - 6 potions of might
s - 11 potions of agility
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook
Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
Cure Poison Poison 2
Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5
Skills:
- Level 12.0 Fighting
- Level 10.0 Maces & Flails
- Level 12.0 Staves
+ Level 15.0 Dodging
+ Level 16.9 Stealth
+ Level 16.9 Spellcasting
+ Level 14.9 Poison Magic
You have 49 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
z - Sting Conj/Pois 25 (25) 1% 1 0
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (1/15)
Altars:
Message History
You feel dopey.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something misses you.
Damage: -2%(-2hp) hp: 78%(87hp)
You hit something. Something hits you.
You feel clumsy.
Something hits you. Something completely misses you.
Damage: -6%(-7hp) hp: 72%(80hp)
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
A red film seems to cover your vision as you go berserk!
You feel yourself moving faster! You feel mighty!
You hit something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something barely misses you. Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -4%(-7hp) hp: 68%(113hp)
You closely miss something. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel dopey.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -7%(-12hp) hp: 61%(101hp)
You hit something but do no damage.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -8%(-13hp) hp: 53%(88hp)
You barely miss something.
You hit something. Something misses you. Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something completely misses you.
Damage: -3%(-5hp) hp: 50%(83hp)
You hit something. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You completely miss something. Something completely misses you.
Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something stings you but does no damage.
Damage: -4%(-7hp) hp: 46%(76hp)
You miss something.
You hit something but do no damage. Something completely misses you.
Something closely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You completely miss something. Something misses you. Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something completely misses you.
Damage: -7%(-11hp) hp: 39%(65hp)
Unknown command.
You slash something! Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something completely misses you.
Damage: -5%(-9hp) hp: 34%(56hp)
You hit something. Something completely misses you.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you.
You hit something but do no damage.
You hit something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something hits you but does no damage. Something misses you.
Damage: -6%(-9hp) hp: 28%(47hp)
You closely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something completely misses you. Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You miss something. Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something closely misses you. Something completely misses you.
Damage: -5%(-8hp) hp: 24%(40hp)
You slash something!
You closely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something misses you. Something closely misses you.
Something completely misses you.
You hit something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
* * * LOW MAGIC WARNING * * *
Something hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something misses you. x2
You closely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something barely misses you. Something misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You puncture something!
Reactivating autopickup.
You feel a bit more experienced. You are no longer berserk.
You pass out from exhaustion.
You feel yourself slow down.
You can move again.
Huge Dmg: -11%(-12hp) hp: 25%(28hp)
Saving game... please wait.
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#.........##.######
#.........##.......
#...###...##.######
#..##.##..##.#
#..#...#..##.#
#..[@<.+..##.#
#..#...#..##.######
#..##.##...........
#...###...##.######
#####.........##.######
#......................
#.##...................
#.######.#####.........
#.# #.# #.........
There are no monsters in sight!
Vanquished Creatures
5 ghost moths (D:1)
A giant cockroach (D:1)
A hobgoblin (D:1)
A ghost (D:1)
8 creatures vanquished.
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | DEFE, the Deep Elf Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5
0 | D:1 | Entered wizard mode.
0 | D:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
0 | D:1 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 5/23
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 5/25
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/27
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 5/29
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/32 MP: 5/31
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 5/32
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 5/33
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 5/34
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 50/50 MP: 5/36
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 5/36
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 59/59 MP: 5/37
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 63/63 MP: 5/38
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 5/39
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 5/40
113 | D:1 | Lost strength.
113 | D:1 | Lost dexterity.
113 | D:1 | Lost intelligence.
121 | D:1 | HP: 2/92 [poisoned by a ghost moth]
122 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
... while paralysed
124 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:80 current:12
124 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
126 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:80 current:12
402 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:46 current:45
598 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:26 current:45
601 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:12 current:20
603 | D:1 | HP: 3/92 [something (5)]
604 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:8 current:3
604 | D:1 | Succumbed to a ghost moth's poison
1092 | D:1 | Slain by a ghost moth (16 damage)
1257 | D:1 | Mangled by a ghost moth (15 damage)
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 56/97 MP: 6/41
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 58/102 MP: 6/41
1689 | D:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 60/107 MP: 6/42
2346 | D:1 | =================== Autoexit: lost:15 current:7
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Flail | | | | |116015 | ||116015
Demon whip | | | | |112066 | ||112066
Lajatang | | | | | | 56 || 56
Dagger | | | | | | 31 || 31
Use: Potion | | | | | 15 | 13 || 28
Stab: Sleeping | | | | | 1 | || 1
Vault maps used:
D:1: dpeg_arrival_shelter, minmay_misc_feat_secret_circle
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Sandman25 wrote:duvessa wrote:dude sandman25 im pretty sure everyone agrees with you that fighting a ghost moth as a deep elf with 15/21 and no SInv and a +0 slicing weapon and without casting any spells is bad
they just disagree that anyone except you would misunderstand crawl badly enough to think that it's the correct way to fight ghost moths
That's what I wanted to hear. No more stupid "your caster should be able to kill Ghost Moth in melee". With all possible buffs Ghost Moth can be killed by a dagger with 0 skills in Short Blades.
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tabstorm wrote:"You should be able to kill this monster in melee" vs. "You should kill this monster in melee"
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Sar wrote:I haven't tackled Thorn Hunters with fragile casters yet, but I imagine meeting one as such character can be an unpleasant experience.
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-780-gc11c5a2 (tiles) character file.
test the Spry (Deep Elf Venom Mage) Turns: 830, Time: 00:19:10
HP 63/90 AC 19 Str 10 XL: 15 Next: 14%
MP 23/37 EV 33 Int 22 (25) God: No God 0 (0)
Gold 0 SH 0 Dex 21 (22) Spells: 8 memorised, 2 levels left
rFire . . . SeeInvis . d - +4 cutlass (freeze)
rCold . . . Clarity . a - +5 robe
rNeg . . . Conserve . (no shield)
rPois + rCorr . m - +2 helmet
rElec . rRot . l - +2 cloak
SustAb . . Spirit . p - +2 pair of gloves
rMut . Warding . o - +2 pair of boots
Gourm . Stasis . (no amulet)
MR +.... (no ring)
e - ring of poison resistance
@: mighty, agile, very slightly contaminated, hasted, very quick, somewhat
resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: no striking features
a: no special abilities
You are on level 1 of the Dungeon.
You are full.
You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 1 of its levels.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
d - a +4,+4 cutlass of freezing (weapon)
Armour
a - a +5 robe (worn)
l - a +2 cloak (worn)
m - a +2 helmet (worn)
n - a +5 mottled dragon armour
o - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
p - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
Magical devices
q - a wand of fire (24)
Comestibles
c - a bread ration
Scrolls
f - 12 scrolls of fog
Jewellery
e - a ring of poison resistance (left hand)
Potions
g - 4 potions of curing
h - 2 potions of heal wounds
i - a potion of agility
j - a potion of haste
k - a potion of might
Books
b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook
Spells Type Level
*Sting Conjuration/Poison 1
Cure Poison Poison 2
Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Poison 4
Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5
Miscellaneous
r - a phial of floods
Skills:
- Level 9.0 Fighting
- Level 14.0 Short Blades
- Level 16.8 Dodging
- Level 2.4 Stealth
+ Level 12.0 Spellcasting
+ Level 13.7 Conjurations
- Level 14.0 Fire Magic
- Level 14.0 Ice Magic
- Level 14.0 Earth Magic
* Level 14.5 Poison Magic
You have 2 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Sting Conj/Pois 25 (25) 0% 1 0
b - Poison Arrow Conj/Pois 66 (200) 2% 6 285
c - Ozocubu's Armour Chrm/Ice 44 (200) 1% 3 0
d - Bolt of Cold Conj/Ice 65 (200) 2% 6 285
e - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire 65 (200) 2% 6 285
f - Iron Shot Conj/Erth 65 (200) 2% 6 285
g - Fireball Conj/Fire 65 (200) 1% 5 85
h - Flight Chrm/Air 13 (200) 14% 3 0
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (1/15)
Altars:
Message History
You barely miss the ancient lich.
You carve the ancient lich like a ham!!!!!!!
You freeze the ancient lich!
You destroy the ancient lich!
Your Conjurations skill increases to level 10!
Your Poison Magic skill increases to level 11!
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon, spattered with blood here.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
An ancient lich comes into view.
The ancient lich shouts!
Items here: %%% ( )
4 large rocks; a stone giant corpse; a giant spiked club; a hill giant corpse; a fire dragon corpse
You cut the ancient lich into ribbons!!!!!!!!!
You freeze the ancient lich!
You destroy the ancient lich!
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon, spattered with blood here.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
[a] Weapon [b] Armour [c] Jewellery [d] Book [e] Staff
[f] Wand [g] Miscellaneous [h] Food [i] Gold [j] Ammunition
What kind of item would you like to acquire? (\ to view known items)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
An ancient lich comes into view.
The helpless ancient lich fails to defend itself.
You carve the ancient lich like a ham!!!!!!!!
You freeze the ancient lich!
You destroy the ancient lich!
Your Conjurations skill increases to level 11!
Your Poison Magic skill increases to level 12!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
An ancient lich comes into view.
The helpless ancient lich fails to defend itself.
You stick the ancient lich like a pincushion!!!!!!!!!!
You freeze the ancient lich!
You destroy the ancient lich!
You have reached level 14!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
An ancient lich comes into view.
The helpless ancient lich fails to defend itself.
You open the ancient lich like a pillowcase!!!!!!!!!!
You freeze the ancient lich.
You destroy the ancient lich!
Your Conjurations skill increases to level 12!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
An ancient lich comes into view.
The helpless ancient lich fails to defend itself.
You skewer the ancient lich like a kebab!!!!!!!!!!!
You freeze the ancient lich!
You destroy the ancient lich!
Your Poison Magic skill increases to level 13!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
An ancient lich comes into view.
The helpless ancient lich fails to defend itself.
You slice the ancient lich like a ripe choko!!!!!!!!!!
You freeze the ancient lich.
You destroy the ancient lich!
Your Conjurations skill increases to level 13!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
An ancient lich comes into view.
The helpless ancient lich fails to defend itself.
You chop the ancient lich into pieces!!!!!!!!!!
You destroy the ancient lich!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
An ancient lich comes into view.
The ancient lich shouts!
Things that are here:
a stone giant corpse; 10 large rocks; a stone giant corpse
You carve the ancient lich like a ham!!!!!!!
You freeze the ancient lich.
You destroy the ancient lich!
Your Poison Magic skill increases to level 14!
You have reached level 15!
Your experience leads to an increase in your attributes!
Increase (S)trength, (I)ntelligence, or (D)exterity?
You feel clever.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon, spattered with blood here.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
You start resting.
Magic restored.
You start resting.
HP restored.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? !
What type of item? !
No such item.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? !
What type of item? might
Potion of might
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? !
What type of item? haste
Potion of haste
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? !
What type of item? agility
Potion of agility
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? !
What type of item? heal wounds
Potion of heal wounds
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? !
What type of item? curing
Potion of curing
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? !
What type of item?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? ?
What type of item? fog
Scroll of fog
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? =
What type of item? protection from poison
No such item.
Adjust (i)tems, (s)pells, or (a)bilities?
Huh?
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? =
What type of item? poison
Ring of poison resistance
Something appears at your feet!
e - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
Put on which piece of jewellery? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
e - a ring of poison resistance (left hand)
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Cost level: 16 Total experience: 163092 Next cost level: 198216 Skill cost: 145
f - 12 scrolls of fog; g - 12 potions of curing; h - 12 potions of heal wounds; i - 12 potions of agility
j - 12 potions of haste
You can't pick everything up without burdening yourself.
k - 8 potions of might
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon, spattered with blood here.
You see here 4 potions of might.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? [
What type of item? helmer
No such item.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? [
What type of item? helmet
+0 helmet
What ego type?
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? [
What type of item? gloves
+0 pair of gloves
What ego type?
Something appears at your feet!
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? [
What type of item? cloak
+0 cloak
What ego type?
Something appears at your feet!
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? [
What type of item? boots
+0 pair of boots
What ego type?
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? [
What type of item? mottled dragon armour
+0 mottled dragon armour
What ego type?
Something appears at your feet!
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? /
What type of item? fire
Wand of fire (0)
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? }
What type of item? phial
Phial of floods
Something appears at your feet!
Unknown command.
You are being weighed down by all of your possessions.
l - a +0 cloak; m - a +0 helmet; n - a +0 mottled dragon armour
You are being crushed by all of your possessions.
o - a +0 pair of boots; p - a +0 pair of gloves; q - a wand of fire (24); r - a phial of floods
Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You drop 10 potions of curing.
You are being weighed down by all of your possessions.
You drop 10 potions of heal wounds.
Your possessions no longer seem quite so burdensome.
You drop 11 potions of agility.
You drop 11 potions of haste.
You drop 7 potions of might.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start putting on your armour. You continue putting on your +0 cloak.
You finish putting on your +0 cloak.
Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start putting on your armour. You continue putting on your +0 helmet.
You finish putting on your +0 helmet.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start putting on your armour.
You continue putting on your +0 pair of boots.
You finish putting on your +0 pair of boots.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start putting on your armour.
You continue putting on your +0 pair of gloves.
You finish putting on your +0 pair of gloves.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Tweak which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
a - a -13824 robe (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Old value: 0 (0x0000)
New value? 4
a - a -13824 robe (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Tweak which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
d - a +4,+4096 cutlass of freezing (weapon)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Old value: 4096 (0x1000)
New value? 4
d - a +4,+4 cutlass of freezing (weapon)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Tweak which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
a - a -13824 robe (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
a - a -13824 robe (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Old value: -13824 (0xffffffffffffca00)
New value? 2
a - a +2 robe (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
[a] Weapon [b] Armour [c] Jewellery [d] Book [e] Staff
[f] Wand [g] Miscellaneous [h] Food [i] Gold [j] Ammunition
What kind of item would you like to acquire? (\ to view known items)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
[a] Weapon [b] Armour [c] Jewellery [d] Book [e] Staff
[f] Wand [g] Miscellaneous [h] Food [i] Gold [j] Ammunition
What kind of item would you like to acquire? (\ to view known items)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Tweak which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
a - a +2 robe (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Old value: 2 (0x0002)
New value? 5
a - a +5 robe (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
[a] Weapon [b] Armour [c] Jewellery [d] Book [e] Staff
[f] Wand [g] Miscellaneous [h] Food [i] Gold [j] Ammunition
What kind of item would you like to acquire? (\ to view known items)
Something appears at your feet!
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Tweak which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
l - a +0 cloak (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Old value: 0 (0x0000)
New value? 2
l - a +2 cloak (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Tweak which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
m - a +0 helmet (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Old value: 0 (0x0000)
New value? 2
m - a +2 helmet (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Tweak which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
o - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Old value: 0 (0x0000)
New value? 2
o - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Tweak which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
p - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Old value: 0 (0x0000)
New value? 2
p - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Tweak which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
n - a +0 mottled dragon armour
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
n - a +0 mottled dragon armour
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Old value: 0 (0x0000)
New value? 5
n - a +5 mottled dragon armour
A - plus b - plus2 c - special d - quantity e - flags ESC - exit
Which field?
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? :
What type of item? ("all" for all) fire
Book of Fire
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? :
What type of item? ("all" for all) ice
Book of Ice
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Things that are here:
a giant spiked club; 4 large rocks; a stone giant corpse
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon, spattered with blood here.
Items here: !!!!! :: [
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? :
What type of item? ("all" for all) frost
Book of Frost
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? :
What type of item? ("all" for all) air
Book of Air
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? :
What type of item? ("all" for all) annihilations
Book of Annihilations
Something appears at your feet!
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
) - weapons ( - missiles [ - armour / - wands ? - scrolls
= - jewellery ! - potions : - books | - staves \ - rods
} - miscellany X - corpses % - food $ - gold 0 - the Orb
ESC - exit
What class of item? :
What type of item? ("all" for all) earth
Book of the Earth
Something appears at your feet!
Okay, then.
Okay, then.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Which skill (by name)? spellcasting
Spellcasting
To what level? 12
Increased Spellcasting to skill level 12.0.
Memorise Poison Arrow, consuming 6 spell levels and leaving 31?
You start memorising the spell. You continue memorising.
You continue memorising. x5
You finish memorising.
Memorise Ozocubu's Armour, consuming 3 spell levels and leaving 28?
You start memorising the spell. You continue memorising.
You continue memorising. x2
You finish memorising.
This spell is very dangerous to cast!
Memorise Bolt of Cold, consuming 6 spell levels and leaving 22?
You start memorising the spell. You continue memorising.
You continue memorising. x5
You finish memorising.
This spell is very dangerous to cast!
Memorise Bolt of Fire, consuming 6 spell levels and leaving 16?
You start memorising the spell. You continue memorising.
Magic restored.
You continue memorising. x5
You finish memorising.
This spell is very dangerous to cast!
Memorise Iron Shot, consuming 6 spell levels and leaving 10?
You start memorising the spell. You continue memorising.
You continue memorising. x5
You finish memorising.
This spell is slightly dangerous to cast.
Memorise Fireball, consuming 5 spell levels and leaving 5?
You start memorising the spell. You continue memorising.
You continue memorising. x4
You finish memorising.
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Which skill (by name)? fire
Fire Magic
To what level? 14
Increased Fire Magic to skill level 14.0.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Which skill (by name)? ice
Ice Magic
To what level? 14
Increased Ice Magic to skill level 14.0.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Which skill (by name)? Earth
Earth Magic
To what level? 14
Increased Earth Magic to skill level 14.0.
Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Unknown command.
Memorise Flight, consuming 3 spell levels and leaving 2?
You start memorising the spell. You continue memorising.
You continue memorising. x2
You finish memorising.
Unknown command.
Cast which spell? (? or * to list)
Okay, then.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel very mighty all of a sudden.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel agile all of a sudden.
What do you say?
t - Shout!
Orders for allies: a - Attack new target.
r - Retreat! s - Stop attacking.
w - Wait here. f - Follow me.
Anything else - Stay silent.
You shout for attention!
You feel you are being watched by something.
Deactivating autopickup; reactivate with Ctrl-A.
Something closely misses you. Something barely misses you. Something completely misses you.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something completely misses you. Something closely misses you. Something closely misses you.
Things that are here:
a stone giant corpse; 10 large rocks; a stone giant corpse
Something closely misses you. Something completely misses you. Something misses you.
Things that are here:
3 large rocks; a stone giant corpse; a fire dragon corpse
Something hits you but does no damage. Something completely misses you. Something misses you.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel yourself speed up.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something misses you. Something hits you but does no damage. Something misses you.
You are very lightly contaminated with residual magic.
You slash something! You freeze something.
You slice something!! You freeze something. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something closely misses you.
You barely miss something.
You slash something! You freeze something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something misses you. Something completely misses you. Something barely misses you.
You slash something! You freeze something.
You puncture something! You freeze something.
You barely miss something. Something completely misses you. Something misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You miss something.
You puncture something! You freeze something.
Reactivating autopickup.
You feel a bit more experienced.
Things that are here:
3 large rocks; a stone giant corpse; a fire dragon corpse
Things that are here:
a stone giant corpse; 10 large rocks; a stone giant corpse
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon, spattered with blood here.
Items here: !!!!! :::::: [
Unknown command.
Saving game... please wait.
Welcome back, test the Deep Elf Venom Mage.
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Char dumped to 'morgue/test.txt'.
You start resting.
Unknown command.
You start resting.
Your extra speed is starting to run out.
You start resting.
You feel yourself slow down.
You start resting.
You feel a little less agile now.
You start resting.
You feel a little less mighty now.
You start resting.
Your magical contamination has completely faded away.
You start resting.
Magic restored.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
What do you say?
t - Shout!
Orders for allies: a - Attack new target.
r - Retreat! s - Stop attacking.
w - Wait here. f - Follow me.
Anything else - Stay silent.
You shout for attention!
You feel you are being watched by something.
Deactivating autopickup; reactivate with Ctrl-A.
Something misses you. Something hits you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Things that are here:
a rotting stone giant corpse x2
10 large rocks
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Things that are here:
a rotting stone giant corpse; 3 large rocks; a rotting fire dragon corpse
Unknown command.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something completely misses you. Something barely misses you.
Things that are here:
a rotting stone giant corpse x2
10 large rocks
Unknown command.
Something closely misses you. x2
Something barely misses you.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon, spattered with blood here.
Items here: !!!!! :::::: [
Unknown command.
You feel you are being watched by something. x2
Something barely misses you. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Things that are here:
a rotting stone giant corpse; 2 large rocks
You barely miss something.
You closely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something misses you. x2
Something barely misses you.
You hit something.
You hit something but do no damage. Something hits you. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You closely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something misses you. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You miss something.
You miss something. Something hits you. Something misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You closely miss something.
You hit something but do no damage. Something hits you but does no damage. Something hits you.
You feel dopey.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You miss something. Something closely misses you. Something hits you!
Something stings you but does no damage.
You hit something.
You closely miss something. Something barely misses you. Something hits you!
Something stings you but does no damage.
You miss something.
You slash something! You freeze something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something completely misses you. Something barely misses you. Something stings you.
You closely miss something. Something hits you but does no damage. Something misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You hit something.
You barely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you! Something closely misses you. Something misses you.
You hit something.
You barely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something barely misses you. Something misses you. Something barely misses you.
You hit something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you. Something closely misses you. Something barely misses you.
You closely miss something.
You hit something. You freeze something. Something closely misses you. Something hits you!
You feel dopey.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You hit something. You freeze something.
You puncture something! You freeze something. Something hits you. Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You miss something. Something hits you but does no damage. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something misses you.
You slash something! You freeze something.
You hit something. Something hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something closely misses you. x2
You barely miss something.
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel much better. Something hits you but does no damage. Something hits you. Something misses you.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you.
You feel dopey.
Something misses you. Something closely misses you.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel much better. Something hits you. Something barely misses you. Something closely misses you.
You barely miss something.
You hit something but do no damage.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you but does no damage. x2
Something stings you but does no damage.
You hit something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you. Something barely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You closely miss something.
You barely miss something. Something hits you. Something misses you. Something stings you.
You hit something. You freeze something.
You hit something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something closely misses you. Something hits you but does no damage. Something completely misses you.
You hit something but do no damage.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you! Something hits you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You hit something.
You puncture something! You freeze something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you but does no damage. x2
Something barely misses you.
You hit something.
You barely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something closely misses you. Something completely misses you. Something stings you.
You hit something but do no damage. Something completely misses you. Something closely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You closely miss something.
You closely miss something.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something hits you but does no damage. x2
Something barely misses you.
You barely miss something.
You hit something. Something closely misses you. Something misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You hit something. You freeze something. Something closely misses you. Something hits you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You puncture something! You freeze something.
You hit something. You freeze something.
Reactivating autopickup.
You feel a bit more experienced.
Things that are here:
a rotting stone giant corpse x2
10 large rocks
You start resting.
Unknown command.
You start resting.
You start resting.
Magic restored.
You start resting.
HP restored.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon, spattered with blood here.
Items here: !!!!! :::::: [
i - 2 potions of agility; g - 4 potions of curing (gained 2); j - 2 potions of haste; h - 2 potions of heal wounds
k - 2 potions of might
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
What do you say?
t - Shout!
Orders for allies: a - Attack new target.
r - Retreat! s - Stop attacking.
w - Wait here. f - Follow me.
Anything else - Stay silent.
You shout for attention!
Something hits you but does no damage.
Deactivating autopickup; reactivate with Ctrl-A.
Something barely misses you. x2
Things that are here:
a stone giant skeleton x2
10 large rocks
Cast which spell? (? or * to list)
Okay, then.
Cast which spell? (? or * to list)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Cast which spell? (? or * to list)
Aiming: Bolt of Fire
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line
The bolt of fire hits something. Something hits you but does no damage. Something completely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Casting: Bolt of Fire
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Bolt of Fire
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line
Something hits you but does no damage. Something closely misses you.
Something stings you but does no damage.
Casting: Bolt of Fire
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Bolt of Fire
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line
The bolt of fire hits something. Something hits you. Something hits you! Something barely misses you.
Casting: Bolt of Fire
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Bolt of Fire
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line
The bolt of fire hits something.
Reactivating autopickup.
You feel a bit more experienced.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon, spattered with blood here.
Items here: !!!!! :::::: [
You start resting.
You start resting.
HP restored.
You start resting.
Magic restored.
You start waiting.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Not a Wizard Command.
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
Enter Wizard Command (? - help):
Enter monster name (or MONS spec):
A jumping spider comes into view.
What do you say?
t - Shout!
Orders for allies: a - Attack new target.
r - Retreat! s - Stop attacking.
w - Wait here. f - Follow me.
Anything else - Stay silent.
You shout for attention! The jumping spider hisses angrily.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel yourself speed up. The jumping spider barely misses you.
The jumping spider bites you but does no damage.
Something hits you!
You feel clumsy.
Deactivating autopickup; reactivate with Ctrl-A.
Something barely misses you. Something closely misses you.
You are very lightly contaminated with residual magic.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel very mighty all of a sudden.
The jumping spider barely misses you. The jumping spider closely misses you.
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something closely misses you. Something misses you. Something misses you.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You feel agile all of a sudden.
The jumping spider completely misses you.
The jumping spider bites you.
You barely miss the jumping spider. Something hits you! Something hits you but does no damage.
Something misses you.
The jumping spider completely misses you.
The jumping spider misses you.
You puncture the jumping spider! You freeze the jumping spider.
The jumping spider is heavily wounded.
You miss the jumping spider.
The jumping spider is heavily wounded.
Something hits you but does no damage. Something barely misses you. Something misses you.
You puncture the jumping spider! You freeze the jumping spider.
The jumping spider is almost dead.
The jumping spider completely misses you.
The jumping spider bites you but does no damage.
You closely miss the jumping spider.
The jumping spider is almost dead.
You puncture the jumping spider! You freeze the jumping spider.
You kill the jumping spider!
You feel you are being watched by something.
Something closely misses you. Something completely misses you. Something misses you.
You puncture something! You freeze something.
You slash something! You freeze something.
You hit something. Something barely misses you. Something hits you. Something closely misses you.
You completely miss something.
You puncture something! You freeze something.
You puncture something! You freeze something. Something misses you. Something hits you but does no damage.
Something stings you but does no damage.
You hit something. You freeze something.
You slash something!
Reactivating autopickup.
You feel a bit more experienced.
Things that are here:
a ghost moth corpse; a fire dragon skeleton
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon, spattered with blood here.
Items here: !!!!! :::::: [
Saving game... please wait.
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#...#
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# #####
There are no monsters in sight!
Vanquished Creatures
10 ancient liches (D:1)
A pandemonium lord (D:1)
4 ghost moths (D:1)
11 stone giants (D:1)
5 fire dragons (D:1)
3 hill giants (D:1)
A jumping spider (D:1)
2 yaks (D:1)
2 giant frogs (D:1)
39 creatures vanquished.
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | test, the Deep Elf Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5
0 | D:1 | Entered wizard mode.
2 | D:1 | Noticed a giant frog
2 | D:1 | Killed a giant frog
2 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 8/8
2 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 10/10
3 | D:1 | Noticed a giant frog
3 | D:1 | Killed a giant frog
3 | D:1 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 13/13
4 | D:1 | Noticed a yak
4 | D:1 | Killed a yak
4 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
4 | D:1 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 16/16
5 | D:1 | Noticed a yak
5 | D:1 | Killed a yak
5 | D:1 | Reached skill level 6 in Short Blades
5 | D:1 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/32 MP: 18/18
6 | D:1 | Noticed a fire dragon
7 | D:1 | Killed a fire dragon
7 | D:1 | Reached skill level 9 in Short Blades
7 | D:1 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 20/20
7 | D:1 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 21/21
9 | D:1 | Noticed a fire dragon
10 | D:1 | Killed a fire dragon
10 | D:1 | Reached skill level 11 in Short Blades
12 | D:1 | Noticed a fire dragon
12 | D:1 | Killed a fire dragon
12 | D:1 | Reached skill level 12 in Short Blades
12 | D:1 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 22/22
13 | D:1 | Noticed a fire dragon
13 | D:1 | Killed a fire dragon
13 | D:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Short Blades
14 | D:1 | Noticed a fire dragon
14 | D:1 | Killed a fire dragon
14 | D:1 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 50/50 MP: 24/24
15 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
15 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
18 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
18 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
18 | D:1 | Reached skill level 16 in Dodging
19 | D:1 | Noticed a hill giant
19 | D:1 | Killed a hill giant
20 | D:1 | Noticed a hill giant
20 | D:1 | Killed a hill giant
21 | D:1 | Noticed a hill giant
21 | D:1 | Killed a hill giant
22 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
22 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
22 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
22 | D:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 53/71 MP: 24/28
23 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
23 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
24 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
25 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
27 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
27 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
28 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
28 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
29 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
30 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
31 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
31 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
32 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
32 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
32 | D:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 57/76 MP: 25/30
33 | D:1 | Noticed a stone giant
33 | D:1 | Killed a stone giant
34 | D:1 | Noticed Nonkol the pandemonium lord
34 | D:1 | Killed Nonkol the pandemonium lord
34 | D:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Poison Magic
35 | D:1 | Noticed an ancient lich
35 | D:1 | Killed an ancient lich
35 | D:1 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 60/80 MP: 25/31
36 | D:1 | Noticed an ancient lich
38 | D:1 | Killed an ancient lich
38 | D:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
40 | D:1 | Noticed an ancient lich
41 | D:1 | Killed an ancient lich
43 | D:1 | Noticed an ancient lich
43 | D:1 | Killed an ancient lich
44 | D:1 | Noticed an ancient lich
44 | D:1 | Killed an ancient lich
44 | D:1 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 66/86 MP: 27/32
45 | D:1 | Noticed an ancient lich
45 | D:1 | Killed an ancient lich
46 | D:1 | Noticed an ancient lich
46 | D:1 | Killed an ancient lich
47 | D:1 | Noticed an ancient lich
47 | D:1 | Killed an ancient lich
48 | D:1 | Noticed an ancient lich
48 | D:1 | Killed an ancient lich
49 | D:1 | Noticed an ancient lich
50 | D:1 | Killed an ancient lich
50 | D:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 70/90 MP: 28/32
156 | D:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Poison Arrow
160 | D:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
167 | D:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Cold
174 | D:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire
181 | D:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Iron Shot
187 | D:1 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball
191 | D:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Cutlass | 4002 | 3 | 4 | 16 | 81 || 4106
Cast: Bolt of Fire | | | | | 4 || 4
Use: Potion | | | | | 8 || 8
Stab: Sleeping | 2 | 3 | 4 | 14 | 6 || 29
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and into wrote:or putting up a single conjured flame. Those all take just a few MP and swing the battle in your favor.
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Sandman25 wrote:For me pure caster is "train magic if it makes sense". For instance, pure caster DEFE of Vehumet can train Fireball, Bolt of Fire, Ignite Poison, Ring of Flames and Fire Storm before training any armour or weapon. Another definition - Pure caster trains Evocations instead of Armour.
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Sandman25 wrote:For me pure caster is "train magic if it makes sense". For instance, pure caster DEFE of Vehumet can train Fireball, Bolt of Fire, Ignite Poison, Ring of Flames and Fire Storm before training any armour or weapon. Another definition - Pure caster trains Evocations instead of Armour.
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zardo wrote:I'm not sure it "makes sense" to train Fire Storm before a weapon on any character.
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and into wrote:I can't think of a situation in which one would train evocations instead of armour. Perhaps evocations before armour (is that what you meant?), but not evocations as a replacement for armour. But I also don't get how that's connected to considering something a caster. (I feel like I'm misunderstanding your intended meaning for that second definition though?)
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Lasty wrote:If this is genuinely what you're trying to prove then you're making a point that is uncontentious because it has no content. Of course it's possible for a badly-built caster who will not run to lose in a melee fight with a ghost moth;
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