Tasty Flavour: Is it worth it?


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Post Monday, 12th May 2014, 19:29

Tasty Flavour: Is it worth it?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-769-g0e16bbe (webtiles) character file.

Altacy the Carver (Red Draconian Gladiator)        Turns: 17750, Time: 01:48:36

HP  95/95        AC 16     Str 18      XL: 13   Next: 21%
MP  27/27        EV 25     Int 12      God: Qazlal [******]
Gold 1195        SH 16     Dex 23      Spells:  0 memorised, 12 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis .     j - +1,+0 scimitar (slice)
rCold  x . .     Clarity  +     (armour unavailable)
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rCorr    .     c - +2 hat
rElec  .         rRot     .     y - +0 cloak
SustAb . .       Spirit   +     N - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Warding  .     G - +3 pair of boots "Gefiysm" {Int+4 Acc+2}
Gourm  .         Stasis   .     r - amulet of guardian spirit
MR     .....                    x - +6 ring of dexterity
                                a - ring of fire

@: repel missiles, not resistant to hostile enchantments, very unstealthy
A: breathe fire, unfitting armour, horns 1, clarity, fire resistance 1, slow
healing 1, AC +8
a: Breathe Fire, Upheaval, Elemental Force, Disaster Area, Renounce Religion


You are on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Qazlal.
Qazlal is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 17 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ossuary and Bailey.

You have collected 1195 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 j - a +1,+0 scimitar of slicing (weapon)
 W - the +8,+8 storm bow {elec}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It charges the ammunition it shoots with electricity; occasionally upon a
   hit, such missiles may discharge and cause terrible harm.
 Y - a +0,+1 scimitar
Armour
 c - a +2 hat (worn)
 y - a +0 cloak (worn)
 G - the +3 pair of boots "Gefiysm" (worn) {Int+4 Acc+2}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your accuracy with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+2).
 N - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
Magical devices
 g - a wand of fire {zapped: 1}
 I - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1}
 O - a wand of fireball {zapped: 4}
 S - a wand of hasting {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
 f - 5 bread rations
 l - 8 meat rations
 o - a pear
 w - 6 chokos
 B - 16 bananas
 C - 10 strawberries
 H - 5 lychees
 R - 9 oranges
 T - 6 rambutans
 V - a royal jelly
Scrolls
 b - 9 scrolls of identify
 h - 8 scrolls of teleportation
 k - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon II
 n - 4 scrolls of enchant weapon I
 p - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 E - 6 scrolls of recharging
 J - 2 scrolls of enchant armour
 K - a scroll of enchant weapon III
 L - a scroll of magic mapping
 U - a scroll of vulnerability
 X - 2 scrolls of silence
Jewellery
 a - a ring of fire (left hand)
 e - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 i - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 r - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 u - a +3 ring of protection
 x - a +6 ring of dexterity (right hand)
 A - a cursed +5 ring of intelligence
 D - a cursed amulet of inaccuracy
 M - an uncursed amulet of stasis
 Q - an uncursed ring of see invisible
Potions
 d - a lumpy inky potion
 m - 3 potions of flight
 q - 2 potions of brilliance
 s - 7 potions of curing
 t - 2 potions of restore abilities
 v - 3 potions of heal wounds
 z - a potion of magic
 P - 2 potions of berserk rage
 Z - a potion of lignification
Miscellaneous
 F - a lamp of fire


   Skills:
 * Level 3.5 Fighting
 - Level 14.7 Long Blades
 - Level 1.7 Throwing
 + Level 12.6 Dodging
 + Level 11.0 Invocations


You have 12 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (0/4) D:10
   Lair (5/8) D:11         Shoals (0/5) Lair:3       Spider (0/5) Lair:5

Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 %   D:9 :   D:11 =

Annotations:
D:6 exclusion: oklob plant
D:10 exclusion: silver statue


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can breathe blasts of fire.
Your fiery red scales are hard (AC +8).
Your body does not fit into most forms of armour.
Your cold-blooded metabolism reacts poorly to cold.
Your flesh is heat resistant.
You have a pair of small horns on your head.
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.
You heal slowly when monsters are visible.


Message History

W - a cabochon ring
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Identify which item? (\ to view known items) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust.
W - a cursed ring of loudness
Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You drop 6 chokos.
You drop a cursed ring of loudness.
Things that are here:
a cursed ring of loudness; 6 chokos
w - 6 chokos
You see here the +8,+8 storm bow {elec}.
W - the +8,+8 storm bow {elec}
Unknown command.
You are alive. You repel missiles. Your movement speed is average.
Your attack speed is quite fast.
You are not resistant to hostile enchantments.
You feel very unstealthy.
New annotation for Lair:5 (include '!' for warning):
Okay, then.

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There are no monsters in sight!


So, I decided to try out qazlal, and so far he has seemed incredibly powerful for the character I have used. I want to win, but I decided that I was going to win without using magic since I found a wand of hasting and wanted to try a new path to victory. I just found a bow of storms, which to me is so flavorful I can't ignore it. Would I be able to justify using it for ranged combat in place of support magic and spells without sacrificing too much of my ability to win?
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Post Monday, 12th May 2014, 19:33

Re: Tasty Flavour: Is it worth it?

Also, how does one adjust auto-pickup on webtiles?
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Post Monday, 12th May 2014, 19:34

Re: Tasty Flavour: Is it worth it?

It's a good bow you can use it no problem.
Should be even better with new ranged, probably.
Your fighting is shit though so you probably want that fixed before fancy stuff.

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Post Monday, 12th May 2014, 19:40

Re: Tasty Flavour: Is it worth it?

dck wrote:It's a good bow you can use it no problem.
Should be even better with new ranged, probably.
Your fighting is shit though so you probably want that fixed before fancy stuff.

\ for autopickup settings


Yeah, fighting is currently being focused no matter what. Thank you for the assistance!
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Post Monday, 12th May 2014, 19:56

Re: Tasty Flavour: Is it worth it?

With 11 or 12 invocations upheaval is strong, and gets stronger the more you train invo. That actually gives you pretty good AoE damage, disaster area fries stuff at long range, elemental force gives really good summons. That plus dragon breath and storm bow and good melee gives a lot of options if you don't want to bother with magic.

Don't cart around valuable non-tactical consumables. As dck suggests, I'd train only fighting for a bit, maybe pick up a bit more invocations, then you could totally put some experience into making that bow good, yeah.

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Post Monday, 12th May 2014, 19:58

Re: Tasty Flavour: Is it worth it?

Storm bow is very good.

But why are you walking around with rC-? Do you really need that ring of fire? Wear AC ring instead.
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Post Monday, 12th May 2014, 20:45

Re: Tasty Flavour: Is it worth it?

and into wrote:With 11 or 12 invocations upheaval is strong, and gets stronger the more you train invo. That actually gives you pretty good AoE damage, disaster area fries stuff at long range, elemental force gives really good summons. That plus dragon breath and storm bow and good melee gives a lot of options if you don't want to bother with magic.

Don't cart around valuable non-tactical consumables. As dck suggests, I'd train only fighting for a bit, maybe pick up a bit more invocations, then you could totally put some experience into making that bow good, yeah.


Yeah, thats probably a good idea. I was carrying them mostly because ctrl F doesnt work on my computer for some strange reason(unless I use a really slow awful browser). Ill just stash them in the temple so I remember where they are.

DracheReborn wrote:Storm bow is very good.

But why are you walking around with rC-? Do you really need that ring of fire? Wear AC ring instead.


I had forgotten to take it off after against some enemy with fire attacks that I can't remember. I found magic resistance shortly after, so I'm wearing that now haha.
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Post Tuesday, 13th May 2014, 02:53

Re: Tasty Flavour: Is it worth it?

if ctrl-F doesn't work in webtiles, try * then f. (You can use * to set up ctrl-commands in macros / browsers / other situations where ctrl doesn't work).
Won all race/bg, unwon (online): Nem* Hep Uka
Favourites: 15-rune Trog, OgNe/OgIE/OgSu (usually Ash), Ds, Ru, SpEn, Ce of Chei, Qaz

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