Just wondering about the relative importance of min-delay

Thursday, 10th April 2014, 19:20 by Blomdor

My favorite weapon class in this game has always been axes. IMO cleaving was also a very nice buff to them and I feel that now more than ever they are solid weapons throughout the game. If I find a really good axe early on, I'll switch to it if I'd actually been training maces and flails before, bar more than 7 or 8 levels of skill investment; it crosstrains anyway, which seems to really take the bite out of raising the new skill.

The problem with these weapons is that an axe specialist generally wants to end the game with an executioner's, and they take essentially the maximum level of skill to reach the fastest possible attack speed. I'm running a CeBe right now (probably the easiest thing in the game to win with, I'm aware; looking for something simple to build and succeed with after a large streak of stupid deaths with more balanced characters). Trog's gifted me two highly overpowered executioner's axes, which will most likely be my end game weapons. I'll chardump to summarize my character's current build and situation.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.0-2-gd2dacb9 (webtiles) character file. Blomdor the Severer (Centaur Berserker) Turns: 19130, Time: 01:27:09 HP 103/117 AC 20 Str 25 XL: 13 Next: 21% MP 3/3 EV 4 Int 6 God: Trog [******] Gold 763 SH 0 Dex 9 Spells: 0 memorised, 12 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . E - +1,+6 executioner's axe (antimagic) rCold + . . Clarity . F - +4 plate armour {rC+} rNeg . . . Conserve . (no shield) rPois . rCorr . S - +0 hat {MR+} rElec . rRot . q - +0 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . t - +0 pair of gloves rMut . Warding . a - +2 centaur barding {Stlth+} Saprov . . . Stasis . (no amulet) MR ++... U - ring of protection from magic n - +2 ring of evasion @: very quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: hooves 3, deformed body, herbivore 1, speed 2, fast metabolism 1, tough skin 3 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Orcish Mines. You worship Trog. Trog is exalted by your worship. You are full. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 16 of its levels. You have collected 1987 gold pieces. You have spent 1224 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons b - the +6,+9 executioner's axe of Trog's Righteous Anger {chop, MR++ SInv} (Trog gifted it to you on level 8 of the Dungeon) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It enhances your eyesight. h - a war axe of flaming y - an uncursed blowgun E - a +1,+6 anti-magic executioner's axe (weapon) T - a runed battleaxe {god gift} Missiles z - 34 poisoned needles Armour a - a +2 centaur barding of stealth (worn) q - a +0 cloak (worn) t - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) C - a +0 buckler F - a +4 plate armour of cold resistance (worn) Q - a +0 plate armour of fire resistance R - a +0 hat of spirit shield S - a +0 hat of magic resistance (worn) Magical devices l - a wand of disintegration {empty} p - a wand of heal wounds (0) s - a wand of digging {zapped: 3} v - a runed brass wand {empty} {tried by monster} A - a wand of random effects {zapped: 3} H - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1} M - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1} N - a wand of magic darts {zapped: 4} O - a wand of frost {zapped: 3} P - a wand of magic darts {zapped: 4} Comestibles c - 6 bread rations Scrolls d - 4 scrolls of identify e - 4 scrolls of teleportation f - a scroll of fog g - a scroll of enchant armour i - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon I j - 2 scrolls of magic mapping k - 2 scrolls of recharging o - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon II r - a scroll of immolation G - 2 scrolls of blinking L - a scroll of remove curse Jewellery m - an uncursed amulet of stasis n - a +2 ring of evasion (left hand) B - an uncursed ring of fire K - a -5 ring of protection U - a ring of protection from magic (right hand) Potions u - a potion of restore abilities w - a potion of heal wounds x - 2 potions of flight D - 3 potions of might J - 2 potions of lignification Rods I - a +0 rod of striking (14/14) (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon) Skills: - Level 11.6 Fighting + Level 17.1 Axes - Level 1.3 Armour - Level 1.3 Dodging You have 12 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (12/15) Temple (0/1) D:4 Orc (4/4) D:11 Elf (0/3) Orc:3 Lair (0/8) D:11 Altars: Cheibriados Vehumet Xom Zin Shops: Orc:2 [ Orc:3 * Orc:4 ?}*( Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have hooves in place of feet. Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. You digest meat inefficiently. You cover ground very quickly. You have a fast metabolism. You have extremely tough skin (AC +3). Message History You slice the orc!! You kill the orc! Trog accepts your kill. You closely miss the goblin. The goblin hits you but does no damage. You slash the goblin! You kill the goblin! Trog accepts your kill. Something appears before you! Trog grants you a gift! Things that are here: a club; a goblin corpse You see here a glowing executioner's axe {god gift}. E - a glowing executioner's axe {god gift} Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You feel magic leave you. E - a +1,+6 anti-magic executioner's axe (weapon) Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. You start resting. Unknown command. ......#..........≈#.....#≈##..... .................≈####### ...#. .....)...........≈≈≈≈≈ ................#....# .....................# .........).).........# ..................$.$## ....#........#........# ..##............@)....# .. #............[......# .......................# . ......#......#....#.## .......###....#...# # $.... ##...#....# ....##..## ##... ### #. There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures An orc warlord (Orc:4) An ettin (Orc:4) Josephine (D:11) A hydra (D:11) 7 orc high priests (Orc:4) An orc sorcerer (Orc:4) Joseph (D:9) 13 orc knights Maurice (D:10) A gargoyle (D:9) A hellwing (Orc:4) Grinder (D:3) A hydra skeleton (D:11) 3 trolls A two-headed ogre (Orc:4) 4 deep elf magi 3 hungry ghosts 3 ugly things (D:8) 6 yaks A wraith (D:10) A spriggan (D:11) 3 vampire mosquitoes 7 wargs A soldier ant (D:11) A water moccasin (D:8) 3 deep elf fighters (Orc:4) 2 tengu zombies (D:10) 3 ice beasts A necrophage (D:9) A swamp drake (Orc:2) 8 ogres 32 orc warriors A phantom (D:9) 2 crocodiles Duvessa (D:9) 3 big kobolds 7 giant frogs A cyclops zombie (D:11) An eye of draining (D:9) 2 scorpions A cyclops skeleton (D:9) 4 wights (D:11) A hippogriff zombie (D:11) A hippogriff skeleton (D:8) 13 killer bees 2 yak skeletons A centaur zombie (D:10) Dowan (D:9) 3 crimson imps 3 jellies 4 hounds 43 orc priests 5 iguanas 5 giant frog skeletons 3 centaur skeletons An iron imp (Orc:2) 26 orc wizards 11 worker ants Ijyb (D:3) A centaur simulacrum (D:11) 2 ogre skeletons A worker ant zombie (D:11) 9 adders A gnoll (D:1) 2 giant mites 4 shadow imps A white imp (Orc:2) 7 worms An orc skeleton (D:11) An orc zombie (D:7) 2 giant eyeballs 4 giant geckos 194 orcs 18 bats A bat skeleton (D:7) 27 goblins 15 hobgoblins 27 kobolds 3 quokkas A ball python (D:7) 6 giant cockroaches A giant gecko skeleton (D:5) 4 giant newts 12 jackals 12 rats 9 ballistomycetes (D:10) A fungus (D:11) 629 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A hill giant (D:11) A yak (D:11) An orc warrior (Orc:3) A hobgoblin (Orc:3) 4 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) An iguana (D:10) 2 giant spores (D:10) 6 fungi (D:11) A plant (D:11) 10 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 643 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Blomdor, the Centaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1 104 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/26 MP: 2/2 389 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 17/31 MP: 3/3 643 | D:1 | Acquired Trog's second power 735 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 739 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 1161 | D:2 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 1322 | D:3 | Noticed Ijyb 1358 | D:3 | Killed Ijyb 1358 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/38 MP: 3/3 1479 | D:3 | Noticed Grinder 1613 | D:3 | Killed Grinder 1613 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 1613 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 45/45 MP: 4/4 1613 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 51/51 MP: 5/5 2196 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 2412 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 2486 | D:4 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 2647 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 2692 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 48/57 MP: 5/5 2889 | D:5 | Acquired Trog's third power 2973 | D:5 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 3860 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 4154 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 4154 | D:7 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 63/63 MP: 6/6 4212 | D:7 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 4599 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 4894 | D:8 | Received a gift from Trog 4904 | D:8 | Got an encrusted executioner's axe {god gift} 4910 | D:8 | Identified the +6,+9 executioner's axe of Trog's Righteous Anger {chop, MR++ SInv} (Trog gifted it to you on level 8 of the Dungeon) 5121 | D:8 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 5220 | D:8 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 5220 | D:8 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 65/69 MP: 7/7 5696 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Axes 5822 | D:9 | Noticed Dowan 5823 | D:9 | Noticed Duvessa 5841 | D:9 | Killed Dowan 5844 | D:9 | Killed Duvessa 5943 | D:9 | Noticed a gargoyle 5945 | D:9 | Killed a gargoyle 6141 | D:9 | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors! 6146 | D:11 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 6187 | D:11 | Noticed Josephine 6194 | D:11 | Killed Josephine 6194 | D:11 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 6194 | D:11 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 77/82 MP: 7/7 6226 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 6318 | D:10 | Noticed Maurice 6330 | D:10 | Killed Maurice 6330 | D:10 | Reached skill level 13 in Axes 7483 | D:9 | Noticed Joseph 7495 | D:9 | Killed Joseph 8044 | D:12 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 20/94 MP: 8/8 8366 | D:11 | Killed a three-headed hydra 8532 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 8587 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 8589 | D:11 | Received a gift from Trog 8973 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9002 | D:11 | Reached skill level 14 in Axes 9342 | D:11 | Identified a +0 rod of striking (14/14) (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon) 9446 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 9853 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 10409 | Orc:2 | Found Twaschuq's Armour Shoppe. 10783 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 11084 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 11429 | Orc:3 | Found Bruawoat's Assorted Antiques. 11436 | Orc:3 | Bought a scroll labeled WOUMEI KLULICK for 28 gold pieces 11436 | Orc:3 | Bought a runed jade ring for 140 gold pieces 11511 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 12030 | Orc:3 | Received a gift from Trog 12508 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc high priest 12759 | Orc:4 | Noticed an ettin 12765 | Orc:4 | Killed an ettin 12765 | Orc:4 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 70/108 MP: 9/9 13044 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc warlord 13275 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 13539 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Axes 16211 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc high priest 16223 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc high priest 16229 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc warlord 16229 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 16 in Axes 16394 | Orc:3 | Received a gift from Trog 17218 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc high priest 17839 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc high priest 17858 | Orc:4 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 113/117 MP: 9/9 18345 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc high priest 18417 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc high priest 18423 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc high priest 18426 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc high priest 18429 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc high priest 18430 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc high priest 18435 | Orc:4 | Found Mnigelue's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 18435 | Orc:4 | Found Skaiqaid's Assorted Antiques. 18435 | Orc:4 | Found Jeacocha's Gadget Emporium. 18438 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc high priest 18438 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 17 in Axes 18439 | Orc:4 | Found Subou's Antique Weapon Shoppe. 18457 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 112 gold pieces 18457 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 82 gold pieces 18457 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 82 gold pieces 18467 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of acquirement for 780 gold pieces 18891 | Orc:1 | Received a gift from Trog 19025 | Orc:1 | Received a gift from Trog Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Hand axe | 127 | 105 | 241 | 4 | || 477 Executioner's axe | | | 82 | 696 | 82 || 860 Invok: Berserk | | 1 | 3 | 10 | || 14 Burn Spellbooks | | | 3 | 2 | || 5 Brothers in Arms | | | | 2 | || 2 Evoke: Wand | | | 4 | 4 | 2 || 10 Use: Potion | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | || 12 Scroll | 1 | | 8 | 6 | 3 || 18

It is going to take a very long time to get these axes to minimum delay, even with 100% of my experience funneled into the relavant skill constantly. There are other things I could be training to provide a much more immediate benefit. My roguelike senses tell me that the latter should take priority, but as a berserker, reaching minimum delay is also a primary goal and I would think that the level of skill required in order to do so should be obtained as soon as is reasonable.

I've just cleared Orc and should make short work of Lair, so I am at an awkward middle point in my character's development and am not sure whether it is time to stop training axe skill for a while in favor of more fighting, invocations, armor, dodging, or even ranged weaponry. Any ideas?

As an aside, just how bad of an idea is it to go deeper into the dungeon and/or venture into Orc before clearing Lair? It's become a fairly stable habit of mine, but has occasionally gotten me killed. I enjoy the challenge of clearing Orc with an XL 10 or 11 character.

EDIT: Nice catch on the unidentified battleaxe. I did not think it worth bothering with. Very surprised to hear that it may actually be better at my current skill level. It's a +1, +2 anti-magic battleaxe, for the record.

Thanks tons, tasonir! Damn, getting that good at the game is a pipe dream for me. Right on.

Thursday, 10th April 2014, 19:30 by Southpaw

While min-delay is very good to have, especially with slow two handed weapons, it would be safe enough for you to train your weapon skill until you have an average (1.0) delay on your weapon so that you are at minimum not attacking slower than your enemies. You could then choose to develop your character in other areas (armor, dodging, fighting) or continue to reach min delay sooner. I don't believe either is "wrong" - especially for a centaur where it is easier to flee if things go awry.

Thursday, 10th April 2014, 20:00 by tasonir

I was in a pretty similar situation on my last run, in that I found a bardiche in a shop early on and needed 26 skill for min delay. I started training polearms as soon as I saw the item, and by the time I could afford it (I was at lair:1), was around 14 skill in polearms. Because it was a very good bardiche [+4,+6 bardiche "Meguid" {flame, rC+ rN+ Str+3 Dex+1}] I used it immedately, even though it swung at 1.3 turns. Once I got to 16 polearms, I trained dodging somewhat, about to 10, and then trained polearms up to 18, briefly dipped into evocations until 5, and then took polearms to 23 before starting some magic training. Eventually get to 26, but 23 is 8.5 aut and fast enough for some time.

I didn't actually reach 26 polearms until after 2 runes, clearing vaults 1-4, and then entering depths:1. That being said, I had ~10 skill in slings, and was also training magic. You're with Trog, so you should be able to get there a bit faster. I am somewhat more tolerant of slow actions than most, as I was a very slow character already (naga of Chei, rather the opposite of you). If you're interested, my morgue is here: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/tasonir/mor ... 182416.txt

Thursday, 10th April 2014, 20:02 by ackack

Mindelay is quite significant, as it gives increasing marginal return to skill points (although probably not xp) until you reach it. The last few levels before reaching mindelay are when you're making the greatest offensive progress in your weapon.

That said, you should trust your "roguelike senses." You are better off staying reasonably well rounded because it is much more xp efficient. I almost never use the biggest of weapons because the skill investment required to get full value is so immense. For example, odds are quite good that the battleaxe in your inventory that you haven't bothered to identify is a better weapon right now (and probably until skill 23 or so, I am being lazy and not doing the calculation but that's my guess) than either of the exec axes. It takes a lot more skill to get the modest upgrade to killing power that is an exec axe. On most Troggies this can be worth it because what else are you going to spend xp on. On a Ce, you have such ass defensive apts that those are what you should spend xp on.

Lastly, while you may enjoy them, axes are probably the worst weapon class. Cleaving is something you almost never want to use, and that leaves you with the worst damage relative to xp invested of any weapon in the game.

Thursday, 10th April 2014, 20:10 by TheDefiniteArticle

As an aside, just how bad of an idea is it to go deeper into the dungeon and/or venture into Orc before clearing Lair? It's become a fairly stable habit of mine, but has occasionally gotten me killed. I enjoy the challenge of clearing Orc with an XL 10 or 11 character.

Orc is all fun and games until a high priest or warlord comes into view. Lair is virtually always easier, but Orc is pretty safe as long as you bail at the first sign of trouble.

Thursday, 10th April 2014, 22:46 by Lyrick

Orc will just be cleaving fun for you. Its like meatsprint.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 00:36 by Blomdor

I'm beginning to see ackack's point; having tried out all the different weapon skills many times I do notice that axes are not as powerful 1v1, and I suppose that the sort of situation where cleave is useful, i.e. being surrounded, is the last thing you want to let happen in the late game (or in general). That said, I still like them. Axes are cool.

Is it just me or is the difference between a +1 and a -1 aptitude not THAT big? I'm playing around with a gargoyle long blade specialist and don't feel any weaker than when I roll up a mace specialist of the same race. The only real problem is the relative rarity of decent long blades, but generally Okawaru eventually solves that problem if he takes a moment to stop emptying his garbage on me.

Also, on said gargoyle I am experimenting with an old strategy of mine: leaving fighting and a weapon skill on at the same time from the beginning. Gargoyles really need the HP from fighting so it makes sense in my mind.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 01:03 by tasonir

The difference in aptitudes isn't that big. It's about a 40% difference from +1 to -1, which sounds scary, but every level of skill requires a great deal more exp than the previous level. So being 40% behind someone who is at level 12 turns out to be level 10.5 or so.

Training fighting and weapon skill at the same time isn't strictly ideal, but for reasonable amounts of time isn't that big a deal. You'd probably be better of training your weapon first, then training fighting, but especially on a gargoyle you'll probably be strong enough to do it either way.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 01:11 by Blomdor

Case in point:

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.0-2-gd2dacb9 (webtiles) character file. Blomdor the Fighter (Gargoyle Fighter) Turns: 7856, Time: 00:37:00 HP 71/71 AC 20 Str 19 XL: 10 Next: 65% MP 10/10 EV 5 Int 13 God: Okawaru [*****.] Gold 473 SH 10 Dex 14 Spells: 0 memorised, 9 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + y - +8,+7 long sword "Preci" {slice, MR+} rCold . . . Clarity . w - +0 plate armour rNeg + . . Conserve + v - +0 buckler rPois + rCorr . (no helmet) rElec + rRot + s - +1 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . (no gloves) rMut . Warding . (no boots) Saprov . . . Stasis . o - amulet of conservation MR +.... e - ring of see invisible t - +5 ring of dexterity @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: life protection 1, electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, AC +7 a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion You are on level 9 of the Dungeon. You worship Okawaru. Okawaru is extremely pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 10 of its levels. You have also visited: Ossuary. You have collected 533 gold pieces. You have spent 60 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +0,+0 long sword y - the +8,+7 long sword "Preci" (weapon) {slice, MR+} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. C - a glowing scimitar G - a blowgun O - the +5,+3 cutlass of the Unkillable {venom, rF+ SInv} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon) It poisons the flesh of those it strikes. It protects you from fire. It enhances your eyesight. Missiles l - 38 poisoned needles n - 5 curare-tipped needles Armour b - a +0 scale mail s - a +1 cloak (worn) v - a +0 buckler (worn) w - a +0 plate armour (worn) Magical devices g - a wand of frost {zapped: 1} B - a wand of draining {zapped: 1} I - a wand of enslavement {zapped: 1} R - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1} Comestibles d - 5 bread rations h - 3 apples j - 3 meat rations E - a choko Scrolls i - 4 scrolls of fog p - a scroll of fear q - 3 scrolls of teleportation u - a scroll of remove curse x - 4 scrolls of enchant weapon II z - a scroll of enchant weapon I J - 2 scrolls of recharging Q - a scroll of magic mapping Jewellery c - a cursed amulet of resist mutation e - a ring of see invisible (right hand) m - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit o - an amulet of conservation (around neck) t - a +5 ring of dexterity (left hand) P - an uncursed ring of sustenance T - a -3 ring of dexterity Potions f - 3 potions of berserk rage k - 7 potions of curing A - a potion of might D - 2 potions of paralysis F - 2 potions of agility H - 2 potions of flight L - a potion of mutation M - a potion of restore abilities Books r - a book of the Tempests Spells Type Level Static Discharge Conjuration/Air 3 Lightning Bolt Conjuration/Air 5 Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5 Tornado Air 9 Shatter Earth 9 K - a book of the Sky Spells Type Level Flight Charms/Air 3 Airstrike Air 4 Silence Hexes/Air 5 Deflect Missiles Charms/Air 6 Conjure Ball Lightning Conjuration/Air 6 Tornado Air 9 N - a book of War Chants Spells Type Level Fire Brand Charms/Fire 2 Freezing Aura Charms/Ice 2 Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2 Repel Missiles Charms/Air 2 Poison Weapon Charms/Poison 3 Regeneration Charms/Necromancy 3 Skills: + Level 11.6 Fighting + Level 10.7 Long Blades - Level 3.2 Armour - Level 3.2 Shields You have 9 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (9/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Orc (0/4) D:9 Lair: D:8-11 Altars: Cheibriados Dithmenos Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin Shops: D:5 : D:6 ( Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to torment. You are immune to poison. You are immune to rotting. Your stone body is very resilient (AC +7). You resist negative energy. You are resistant to electric shocks. You can survive without breathing. You are immune to petrification. Message History HP restored. You continue butchering the corpse. You finish butchering the hound corpse. Q - a chunk of hound flesh Eat a chunk of hound flesh? (ye/n/q/i?) This raw flesh tastes terrible. You continue eating. x2 There is a stone staircase leading down here. There is a stone staircase leading up here. Things that are here: a giant spiked club; a giant club Things that are here: a giant spiked club; a giant club You see here a potion of paralysis. There is an escape hatch in the floor here. You see here a scroll of random uselessness. Found 22 stones. You see here a cutlass. You now have 473 gold pieces (gained 3). Q - a scroll of magic mapping #..# # #..# . #... .# #.## ...#### .# # #.# ..8..(.# .##.#. #.## ........#......# #... .........#..# #.# #### #.........#.# #@######### ............# #.........# ............# #########.# .8...>...8..# #.# ............# #.# ............# #.# #.........### #.# #.........# #.# ###### #.........# ###.###..(.. There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures A two-headed ogre (D:9) 3 yaks (D:8) A wyvern (D:9) A hungry ghost (D:9) A wraith (D:9) The ghost of Mukuu the Caller, an average DsSu (D:4) A necrophage (D:6) A water moccasin (D:7) A black bear (D:6) A sky beast (D:6) 2 orc warriors 2 ice beasts 2 centaurs A yellow wasp (D:8) 3 phantoms 3 ogres Duvessa (D:7) An elf zombie (Ossuary) A big kobold (D:7) 4 lava worms (D:7) 7 giant frogs 2 scorpions (D:5) 2 troll zombies (D:9) 3 wights (D:7) 4 killer bees (D:9) 4 crimson imps Dowan (D:7) A goliath beetle (D:8) 3 hounds 2 human zombies (Ossuary) 3 orc priests A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:5) 3 orc wizards 3 iguanas A big kobold zombie (Ossuary) 3 worker ants Ijyb (D:2) 6 ogre zombies (D:9) 2 mummies (Ossuary) 3 adders 2 shadow imps A goliath beetle zombie (D:8) 4 worms An iguana zombie (D:6) 2 adder zombies A giant eyeball (D:8) 7 giant geckos 29 orcs 9 bats A bat skeleton (D:4) 2 bat zombies (D:8) 12 goblins 14 hobgoblins 30 jackals 13 kobolds 5 quokkas A ball python (D:2) 4 giant cockroaches 4 giant newts 2 goblin skeletons (D:9) 4 goblin zombies A hobgoblin skeleton (D:9) 14 hobgoblin zombies A jackal skeleton (D:6) A jackal zombie (Ossuary) 8 kobold zombies (Ossuary) 5 orc skeletons (D:9) 19 orc zombies 10 rats 3 rat zombies 3 ballistomycetes (D:8) 300 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A giant spore (D:8) 1 creature vanquished. Grand Total: 301 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Blomdor, the Gargoyle Fighter, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1 38 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 5/19 MP: 2/2 486 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 9/23 MP: 3/3 839 | D:2 | Noticed Ijyb 872 | D:2 | Killed Ijyb 872 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 10/28 MP: 4/4 1352 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades 1912 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 25/32 MP: 5/5 2086 | D:3 | Found Zin's Purification Station. 2086 | D:3 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 2098 | D:3 | Bought a potion of curing for 60 gold pieces 2721 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 2746 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 2747 | Temple | Noticed a giant goldfish 2756 | Temple | Noticed a giant goldfish 2772 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru 2816 | D:4 | Noticed Mukuu's ghost (average DsSu) 2829 | D:4 | Killed Mukuu's ghost 2829 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades 2829 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 33/39 MP: 6/6 3041 | D:4 | Got a dazzling long sword 3042 | D:4 | Identified the +8,+7 long sword "Preci" {slice, MR+} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 3125 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3137 | D:4 | Acquired Okawaru's first power 3137 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 3153 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/44 MP: 7/7 3267 | D:5 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 3267 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 3268 | D:5 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 3303 | D:5 | Found Daalipe's Book Boutique. 3311 | D:5 | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades 3573 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 28/52 MP: 8/8 3677 | D:6 | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting 3985 | D:6 | Found Amuasan's Weapon Shop. 4022 | D:6 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 4028 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 4184 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 8 in Fighting 4402 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 60/60 MP: 9/9 4849 | D:7 | Noticed Duvessa 4852 | D:7 | Noticed Dowan 4906 | D:7 | Killed Duvessa 4912 | D:7 | Killed Dowan 4952 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting 5610 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 5622 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 32/68 MP: 10/10 5635 | D:8 | Got an iridescent cutlass 5636 | D:8 | Identified the +5,+3 cutlass of the Unkillable {venom, rF+ SInv} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon) 5687 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 6790 | D:9 | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades 6817 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 7023 | D:9 | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting 7380 | D:9 | Acquired Okawaru's second power Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Long sword | 148 | 236 | 366 | 246 || 996 Evoke: Wand | | | 3 | || 3 Use: Potion | 2 | 4 | 1 | 1 || 8 Scroll | | 4 | 13 | 3 || 20 Stab: Invisible | | 1 | | || 1

Both fighting and long blades have been trained since turn 1. The difference between the two is exactly...1 skill level.

Makes me feel more confident that a -2 penalty or whatnot doesn't mean it's impossible or even a bad idea to train a skill.

I've been raising intelligence at every possible opportunity in the hopes that I will eventually make up enough for the low starting intellect of fighters to cast some useful things. Shatter's a pipe dream; not sure if he's ever going to be able to cast that. The War Chants or some translocations would be nice, though.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 06:00 by Zicher

Blomdor wrote:Both fighting and long blades have been trained since turn 1. The difference between the two is exactly...1 skill level.

Are you using automatic or manual training? Automatic distributes XP between skills based upon their use, and melee fighting puts way more XP into weapon skill than into Fighting. Looks like this ratio pretty much cancels out with the aptitude difference, and that would be why the difference between Fighting and Long Blades is almost exactly the same as on turn 1.

Now, if you were using manual training, that distributes XP equally into all trained skills, no matter which of them you use, the aptitude for Fighting would prevail and it would rise more quickly than Long Blades.

On the third hand, you have the option to focus the skills as well, which means they train twice as fast. This difference prevails of the aptitude difference - so if you would focus LBl and only train Fgt, LBl would slowly catch up and eventually outgrow Fgt.

Oh, and about mindelay: Training weapon skill beyond mindelay has returns highly diminished, but there are still some, as the weapon skill further improves damage and (IIRC) accuracy as well.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 06:19 by Blomdor

I always use manual. As nooby as I sound I've got maybe a year of accumulated experience in the game (knew about it for two maybe and took a long break in between). I'm just still really bad.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 06:52 by Zicher

Blomdor wrote:I always use manual. As nooby as I sound I've got maybe a year of accumulated experience in the game (knew about it for two maybe and took a long break in between). I'm just still really bad.

I've had absolutely no intention of calling you a noob

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But then I wonder why are you not focusing LBl (at least, the dump implies that). IMHO getting your weapon up to speed is quite important ASAP, and the HP bonus from Fighting is not that big.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 06:54 by crate

another note on aptitudes is that the only actually relevant number is a weighted average of your aptitude for all the skills you train
so a hill orc traning spellcasting is perfectly fine; your -3 there will be more than canceled out by all the positive apts you have for fighting/weapon/etc; similarly a minotaur actually gets haste castable in plate at about the same time a human does
it's when all the apts you're using are bad (mummy) or good (sp, mf, mi, depends on character) that aptitudes really matter

Friday, 11th April 2014, 07:16 by Blomdor

Woah!

I had no idea of this. Mind is kinda blown.

The intricacies of this game never cease to amaze me. Learn something new every time.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 07:36 by Blomdor

OK, here is a perfect example of what trips me up.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.0-2-gd2dacb9 (webtiles) character file. Blomdor the Carver (Centaur Berserker) Turns: 10359, Time: 00:42:16 HP 100/100 AC 16 Str 22 XL: 11 Next: 40% MP 8/8 EV 5 Int 6 God: Trog [*****.] Gold 91 SH 0 Dex 13 Spells: 0 memorised, 10 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . O - +2,+7 claymore (vamp) rCold . . . Clarity . w - +4 chain mail (curse) rNeg + . . Conserve . (no shield) rPois + rCorr . G - +2 hat rElec . rRot . D - +0 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . e - +1 pair of gloves rMut . Warding + (no barding) Saprov . . . Stasis . d - amulet of warding MR ..... h - +3 ring of dexterity s - ring of poison resistance @: very quick, not resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: hooves 3, deformed body, herbivore 1, speed 2, fast metabolism 1, tough skin 3 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Trog. Trog is extremely pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 9 of its levels. You have collected 429 gold pieces. You have spent 338 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +1,+1 falchion B - the +7,+6 long sword "Xoihuf" {venom, Str+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) It poisons the flesh of those it strikes. It affects your strength (+3). E - a +2,+3 falchion F - a +3,+0 great sword of freezing O - a +2,+7 vampiric claymore (weapon) Armour b - a +0 animal skin e - a +1 pair of gloves (worn) v - a +0 cloak w - a cursed +4 chain mail (worn) y - a +1 robe of fire resistance D - a +0 cloak (worn) G - a +2 hat (worn) Magical devices n - a wand of frost (18) H - a wand of random effects (16) J - a short lead wand Comestibles c - 8 bread rations k - a snozzcumber o - 3 meat rations K - 2 honeycombs L - a royal jelly N - 2 rotting chunks of hippogriff flesh Scrolls g - 2 scrolls of teleportation l - 4 scrolls of fog m - 2 scrolls of recharging p - 3 scrolls of identify u - 2 scrolls of remove curse Jewellery d - an amulet of warding (around neck) h - a +3 ring of dexterity (right hand) i - a +2 ring of evasion q - an uncursed ring of positive energy s - a ring of poison resistance (left hand) z - an uncursed ring of flight Potions f - 2 potions of resistance j - 4 potions of curing r - a potion of haste t - a potion of mutation A - 3 potions of might Skills: - Level 10.2 Fighting + Level 13.7 Long Blades + Level 2.0 Armour - Level 1.3 Dodging You have 10 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (8/15) Temple (0/1) D:6 Lair (1/8) D:8 Altars: Makhleb Sif Muna Shops: D:4 !(=: D:5 ( Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have hooves in place of feet. Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. You digest meat inefficiently. You cover ground very quickly. You have a fast metabolism. You have extremely tough skin (AC +3). Message History You offer a prayer to Trog. The hobgoblin corpse is consumed in a column of flame. Trog is extremely pleased with you. A worker ant comes into view. The worker ant twitches its antennae in your direction. You hit the worker ant. You kick the worker ant, but do no damage. The worker ant is moderately wounded. The worker ant barely misses you. You barely miss the worker ant. You kick the worker ant! You kill the worker ant! Trog accepts your kill. No target in view! No target in view! No target in view! No target in view! 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Vanquished Creatures 2 hydras (Lair:1) The ghost of Boregon the Skirmisher, an experienced HOFi (D:5) Pikel (D:5) A black mamba (Lair:1) A queen bee (D:8) 3 komodo dragons (Lair:1) A two-headed ogre (D:8) 4 blink frogs (Lair:1) The ghost of jimisdead the Covered, an average MiFi (D:3) Eustachio (D:5) 2 sharks (Lair:1) 3 hippogriffs Menkaure (D:7) 4 wolves (Lair:1) 3 water moccasins (Lair:1) A porcupine (Lair:1) 4 slaves (D:5) A sky beast (D:7) 2 ice beasts A giant goldfish (Lair:1) A centaur (D:6) 2 phantoms 7 ogres Sigmund (D:7) A crocodile (Lair:1) 3 giant slugs (Lair:1) 4 giant frogs 3 scorpions 17 killer bees 2 electric eels (Lair:1) 13 wights 5 hounds 2 crimson imps A goliath beetle (D:8) A big fish (Lair:1) 2 jellies Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 2 orc wizards 2 orc priests (D:5) 4 iguanas 4 worker ants A killer bee zombie (D:5) An ogre zombie (D:5) A hound zombie (D:5) A worker ant zombie (D:7) 7 adders 4 gnolls (D:8) 7 green rats (Lair:1) 2 giant mites A shadow imp (D:6) 2 worms 2 giant eyeballs (D:6) 4 oozes 11 orcs 15 bats 6 giant cockroaches 15 goblins 10 hobgoblins 11 jackals 11 kobolds 5 quokkas 3 giant geckos A giant gecko skeleton (D:6) 3 giant newts A giant newt skeleton (D:5) A jackal skeleton (D:5) 22 rats A rat zombie (D:5) 2 ballistomycetes (D:6) 267 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A giant spore (D:6) A fungus (Lair:1) 3 plants (Lair:1) 5 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 272 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Blomdor, the Centaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1 291 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/26 MP: 2/2 734 | D:2 | Acquired Trog's second power 1036 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/31 MP: 3/3 1050 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades 1548 | D:3 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 1567 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 38/38 MP: 3/3 1582 | D:3 | Noticed jimisdead's ghost (average MiFi) 1593 | D:3 | Killed jimisdead's ghost 1593 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades 1593 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 45/45 MP: 4/4 1742 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades 2123 | D:4 | Found Qor Ulim's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2244 | D:4 | Found Smufulu's Distillery. 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of mutation for 30 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2292 | D:4 | Found Diplonin's Jewellery Boutique. 2383 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/51 MP: 5/5 2618 | D:4 | Found Kufanowe's Book Emporium. 2762 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Long Blades 2813 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 2823 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 57/57 MP: 5/5 2897 | D:5 | Found Yhemmin's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2959 | D:5 | Acquired Trog's third power 3013 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Long Blades 3066 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 23/63 MP: 6/6 3292 | D:5 | Got an encrusted long sword 3293 | D:5 | Identified the +7,+6 long sword "Xoihuf" {venom, Str+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 3550 | D:5 | Noticed Eustachio 3566 | D:5 | Killed Eustachio 3609 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades 3628 | D:5 | Noticed Boregon's ghost (experienced HOFi) 3647 | D:5 | Killed Boregon's ghost 3951 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Long Blades 3951 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 69/69 MP: 7/7 4076 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4126 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 4335 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 4673 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 4682 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 4931 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5195 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 5204 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 5349 | D:7 | Noticed Sigmund 5355 | D:7 | Killed Sigmund 5669 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Long Blades 5943 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 57/84 MP: 7/7 6037 | D:8 | Received a gift from Trog 6389 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 6765 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7404 | D:4 | Bought an uncursed ring of poison resistance for 260 gold pieces 7842 | Lair:1 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Long Blades 7933 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 36/97 MP: 8/8 8453 | Lair:1 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 8460 | Lair:1 | Killed a 11-headed hydra 8522 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 9070 | Lair:1 | Noticed a black mamba 9085 | Lair:1 | Killed a black mamba 10040 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Falchion | 86 | 114 | 59 | || 259 Long sword | | | 134 | || 134 Great sword | | | 78 | 275 || 353 Claymore | | | | 3 || 3 Invok: Berserk | | 3 | 4 | 3 || 10 Burn Spellbooks | | | | 2 || 2 Evoke: Wand | 1 | | 3 | || 4 Use: Potion | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 || 10 Scroll | 7 | 4 | 3 | 10 || 24

Yes, this is a different character. I'm terrible at this game. Gah.

Look at this thing Trog's given me. It's awesome. It's also going to take 24 skill to reach mindelay. That is a looooong way off. Is the greatsword better, and if so, at what point do I switch? And how much should I be focusing on raising weapon skill at the moment?

I can tell you I'm not having an overly easy time with the creatures in Lair, so the character could definitely been built better...not sure what I might have done wrong, though.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 07:39 by Sar

It's a +7 vamp claymore and I would not look back on any greatsword after getting that.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 08:39 by and into

What ackack wrote above is true, but on the other hand, a good base damage weapon will still do good damage even when it is not at min delay. So you are still getting good value on skill levels up to min delay, but that doesn't mean that literally getting it to min delay is your immediate priority.

So far, your training is very reasonable for this character. Personally, I'd get armor up to maybe 10 or 12 for now, which will give you 20 or 21 AC. Use any ?enchant armor to push that value up higher. (Don't bother with dodging yet.) After that pump fighting and long blades.

Use your speed so that you are absolutely only ever fighting one enemy at a time. You also should never take more than one or maybe (if unfortunate positioning from autoexplore) two hits from a ranged opponent. Centaurs tend to have somewhat lower base defenses at least until they find a barding, but since you can easily run from stuff that's above your pay grade and can control battles such that you only fight 1 on 1, you can get by the whole game without barding if you need to.

Once you get barding you basically have good defensive prospects, just poor aptitudes which aren't a big deal, at all.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 09:34 by Blomdor

Once this guy got going he became a real juggernaut in melee. It's not that he doesn't take a lot of damage; he just heals it straight back up. Other -taurs and ranged attackers in general are extremely dangerous to him, though.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.0-2-gd2dacb9 (webtiles) character file. Blomdor the Fencer (Centaur Berserker) Turns: 25407, Time: 02:13:41 HP 118/121 AC 24 Str 21 XL: 14 Next: 52% MP 10/10 EV 4 Int 6 God: Trog [******] Gold 638 SH 0 Dex 14 Spells: 0 memorised, 13 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + O - +3,+8 claymore (vamp) rCold . . . Clarity . n - +4 plate armour {rF+} rNeg + . . Conserve . (no shield) rPois + rCorr . Q - +2 helmet {SInv} rElec . rRot . D - +2 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . e - +2 pair of gloves rMut . Warding + (no barding) Saprov . . . Stasis . d - amulet of warding MR +.... h - +3 ring of dexterity s - ring of poison resistance @: drained, very quick, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: hooves 3, deformed body, herbivore 1, speed 2, fast metabolism 1, tough skin 3, weak 1 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion You are on level 3 of the Orcish Mines. You worship Trog. Trog is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 22 of its levels. You have collected 2130 gold pieces. You have spent 1492 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons b - a runed bastard sword {god gift} O - a +3,+8 vampiric claymore (weapon) Armour e - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) n - a +4 plate armour of fire resistance (worn) w - a +4 chain mail D - a +2 cloak (worn) Q - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn) Magical devices v - a wand of lightning C - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} G - a wand of paralysis X - a wand of digging {zapped: 1} Comestibles c - 12 bread rations Scrolls a - a scroll of remove curse g - 3 scrolls of teleportation k - a scroll of magic mapping l - 3 scrolls of fog p - 3 scrolls of identify r - 3 scrolls of blinking I - 2 scrolls of fear Jewellery d - an amulet of warding (around neck) h - a +3 ring of dexterity (right hand) q - an uncursed ring of positive energy s - a ring of poison resistance (left hand) Potions f - a potion of resistance i - a potion of agility j - 8 potions of curing z - 2 potions of haste A - 5 potions of might U - a potion of invisibility Miscellaneous m - a sack of spiders Skills: - Level 10.2(10.1) Fighting + Level 19.3(19.2) Long Blades + Level 6.5(6.4) Armour - Level 1.3(1.2) Dodging You have 13 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (10/15) Temple (0/1) D:6 Orc (4/4) D:10 Elf (0/3) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:8 Swamp (0/5) Lair:5 Snake (0/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:6 Altars: Makhleb Sif Muna Shops: D:4 !(=: D:5 ( Orc:1 * Orc:4 %(?[: Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have hooves in place of feet. Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. You digest meat inefficiently. You cover ground very quickly. You have a fast metabolism. You have extremely tough skin (AC +3). You are weak. (Str -2) Message History Items here: % ( )) [ an executioner's axe of freezing {god gift} a crossbow; a tomahawk; a plate armour; an orc corpse Things that are here: an uncursed great mace; an uncursed crossbow; 57 bolts; a chain mail Done exploring. Done exploring. (D) Dungeon (T) Temple (O) Orcish Mines (E) Elven Halls (L) Lair (S) Swamp (P) Snake Pit (M) Slime Pits Where to? (Enter - Orc:4, ? - help) There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. The orc warrior shouts! The orc shouts! An orc priest comes into view. It is wielding a glowing mace. You hear a shout! x2 Found 9 gold pieces. An orc and an orc wizard come into view. There is a stone staircase leading down here. Save game and exit? Okay, then. ... ........ ##......# . .......## ... .......###. . ..#.......... #..#........... #............. #...@........ ................. ......#.o...... #......#...o... ..... . ..###.$ .#.... o.o ## #. .... ## ...o . You can see an orc warrior, an orc priest, an orc wizard and 2 orcs. Vanquished Creatures Maud (Lair:4) An orc warlord (Orc:2) A fire dragon (Lair:8) 4 hydras The ghost of Boregon the Skirmisher, an experienced HOFi (D:5) Pikel (D:5) 2 orc knights (Orc:4) 3 griffons 2 wolf spiders (Lair:8) 2 orc sorcerers (Orc:4) A red wasp (Lair:8) A guardian serpent (Lair:8) 21 black mambas 8 spiny frogs A feature mimic (Lair:7) A queen bee (D:8) A troll (Orc:2) 3 fire drakes 9 komodo dragons A giant firefly (Lair:2) A two-headed ogre (D:8) 4 basilisks 30 blink frogs A shadow (D:10) 4 ugly things (D:9) A grizzly bear (Lair:2) A spriggan (Lair:2) The ghost of jimisdead the Covered, an average MiFi (D:3) A wyvern (Lair:4) 18 yaks Eustachio (D:5) 3 elephant slugs 9 sharks 3 steam dragons (Lair:8) 11 hippogriffs A swamp worm (Lair:5) Menkaure (D:7) 9 wolves 6 wargs 21 water moccasins 2 mottled dragons (Lair:8) 11 porcupines 2 swamp drakes (Lair:8) 4 slaves (D:5) 2 sky beasts 4 spiders (Lair:8) 2 ice beasts 5 giant goldfish 3 yellow wasps (Lair:8) 35 orc warriors A black bear (Lair:2) 11 centaurs 3 phantoms 14 ogres 2 boring beetles Sigmund (D:7) 20 crocodiles 13 giant slugs 12 giant frogs 5 scorpions 17 killer bees 7 electric eels 13 wights 15 hounds 2 crimson imps A goliath beetle (D:8) 2 pulsating lumps (Lair:6) 11 big fish 2 jellies Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 13 orc wizards A black bear skeleton (D:9) 24 orc priests 10 iguanas 11 worker ants A killer bee zombie (D:5) 15 sheep An ogre zombie (D:5) A hound zombie (D:5) A worker ant zombie (D:7) 22 adders 4 gnolls (D:8) 42 green rats 3 giant mites A shadow imp (D:6) 4 worms 2 giant eyeballs (D:6) 4 oozes 113 orcs 23 bats 6 giant cockroaches 24 goblins 14 hobgoblins 22 jackals 12 kobolds 12 quokkas A ball python (Lair:5) 4 giant geckos A giant gecko skeleton (D:6) 3 giant newts A giant newt skeleton (D:5) A jackal skeleton (D:5) An orc skeleton (D:9) 32 rats A rat zombie (D:5) 2 ballistomycetes (D:6) A fungus (Lair:8) 5 plants 854 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A giant spore (D:6) 6 fungi 9 plants 16 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 870 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Blomdor, the Centaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1 291 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/26 MP: 2/2 734 | D:2 | Acquired Trog's second power 1036 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/31 MP: 3/3 1050 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades 1548 | D:3 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 1567 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 38/38 MP: 3/3 1582 | D:3 | Noticed jimisdead's ghost (average MiFi) 1593 | D:3 | Killed jimisdead's ghost 1593 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades 1593 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 45/45 MP: 4/4 1742 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades 2123 | D:4 | Found Qor Ulim's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2244 | D:4 | Found Smufulu's Distillery. 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of mutation for 30 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2292 | D:4 | Found Diplonin's Jewellery Boutique. 2383 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/51 MP: 5/5 2618 | D:4 | Found Kufanowe's Book Emporium. 2762 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Long Blades 2813 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 2823 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 57/57 MP: 5/5 2897 | D:5 | Found Yhemmin's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2959 | D:5 | Acquired Trog's third power 3013 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Long Blades 3066 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 23/63 MP: 6/6 3292 | D:5 | Got an encrusted long sword 3293 | D:5 | Identified the +7,+6 long sword "Xoihuf" {venom, Str+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 3550 | D:5 | Noticed Eustachio 3566 | D:5 | Killed Eustachio 3609 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades 3628 | D:5 | Noticed Boregon's ghost (experienced HOFi) 3647 | D:5 | Killed Boregon's ghost 3951 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Long Blades 3951 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 69/69 MP: 7/7 4076 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4126 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 4335 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 4673 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 4682 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 4931 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5195 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 5204 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 5349 | D:7 | Noticed Sigmund 5355 | D:7 | Killed Sigmund 5669 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Long Blades 5943 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 57/84 MP: 7/7 6037 | D:8 | Received a gift from Trog 6389 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 6765 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7404 | D:4 | Bought an uncursed ring of poison resistance for 260 gold pieces 7842 | Lair:1 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Long Blades 7933 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 36/97 MP: 8/8 8453 | Lair:1 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 8460 | Lair:1 | Killed a 11-headed hydra 8522 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 9070 | Lair:1 | Noticed a black mamba 9085 | Lair:1 | Killed a black mamba 10040 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog 11053 | Lair:2 | Got a bone spear 11054 | Lair:2 | Identified the +6,+3 spear "Sagrus" {flame, rN+ Dex-1 Int+3} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 11234 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Long Blades 11552 | Lair:2 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 3 turns 12019 | Lair:3 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 12036 | Lair:3 | Killed a ten-headed hydra 12036 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 91/106 MP: 9/9 12291 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 12293 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Trog 12346 | Lair:3 | Got a distressingly furry scale mail 12363 | Lair:3 | Identified the +1 scale mail of Shraoppol {rF++} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 13146 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Long Blades 13512 | Lair:4 | Noticed Maud 13523 | Lair:4 | Killed Maud 13809 | Lair:4 | Got a bloodstained quarterstaff 13810 | Lair:4 | Identified the cursed +2,+2 quarterstaff "Iczieg" {speed, rElec MR+ Dex+1} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts) 14340 | Lair:5 | Received a gift from Trog 14395 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 14742 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 16 in Long Blades 15292 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 15774 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 15794 | Lair:6 | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [pulsating lump's mutagenic touch] 15795 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 107/113 MP: 9/9 16856 | Lair:7 | Received a gift from Trog 16919 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 17 in Long Blades 17851 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 17940 | Lair:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 18494 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 18809 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 18 in Long Blades 19312 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 19975 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 110/121 MP: 10/10 21375 | D:9 | Received a gift from Trog 21573 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21573 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 21825 | D:10 | Reached skill level 19 in Long Blades 21873 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 21976 | Orc:1 | Found Frovied's General Store. 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought 2 scrolls of blinking for 210 gold pieces 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 105 gold pieces 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 105 gold pieces 22191 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord 22214 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 22258 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog 22917 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 22968 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 24534 | Orc:4 | Found Chuikoti's Antique Weapon Shop. 24534 | Orc:4 | Found Jiupn's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 24548 | Orc:4 | Found Shronim's Food Boutique. 24727 | Orc:4 | Found Petukhlar's Armour Emporium. 24741 | Orc:4 | Bought a +4 plate armour of fire resistance for 500 gold pieces 24763 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 135 gold pieces 24763 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 99 gold pieces 24851 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 24974 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 25064 | Orc:4 | Found Eguint's Book Emporium. Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Falchion | 86 | 114 | 59 | | || 259 Long sword | | | 134 | | || 134 Great sword | | | 78 | 275 | || 353 Claymore | | | | 476 | 1006 || 1482 Invok: Berserk | | 3 | 4 | 6 | 4 || 17 Burn Spellbooks | | | | 3 | 5 || 8 Evoke: Wand | 1 | | 3 | 6 | 11 || 21 Use: Potion | 2 | 3 | 2 | 9 | 6 || 22 Scroll | 7 | 4 | 3 | 20 | 8 || 42 Stab: Fleeing | | | | 1 | || 1 Paralysed | | | | 1 | || 1

Armor and further weapon skill is coming along very slowly; Orc never seems to give out very much XP since most enemies there are just unflavored orcs. This particular Orc Mines was remarkably easy; rather oddly, there were only a very few sorcerers, one warlord, and no high priests at all that I can recall. The biggest danger was the pack of centaurs and crossbow-wielding warriors guarding the shops, and they weren't as hard to deal with as most of Lair had been.

Unfortunately, I still have not found any bardings. There's a scroll of acquirement in one of the shops, but it's over 800 gold to buy and I don't have the cash after upgrading my suit of armor and buying some useful scrolls.

Taking your advice, and overcoming my natural reluctance to use consumable upgrades on nonmagical equipment, I've used all but one scroll of enchant armor on my cloak and gloves. The last scroll I am saving in case I come across a gold dragon hide, either by killing one or getting exceptionally lucky and finding one just lying around. It's happened with other dragon armors in past games.

Advice, comments, etc. appreciated. I'd like to train evocations, but I don't suppose I've found very much to use it with. Sometimes I find a few elemental summoning items or cool rods lying around; not so much this time.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 13:12 by Lasty

Blomdor wrote:Woah!

I had no idea of this. Mind is kinda blown.

The intricacies of this game never cease to amaze me. Learn something new every time.

Just to be clear, what crate is describing isn't a hidden mechanic. It's the natural outcome of the fact that if it takes you less XP to get skill X to a decent level, you can spend that extra XP on another skill; as such, if you train a mix of skills with positive and negative aptitudes, the xp savings on some will balance out the xp penalties on others such that your effective overall XP efficiency is equal to approximately the average of the aptitudes for all skills you plan on training.

Obviously, you also need to think about how much you train each skill, since the savings/penalties of training a given skill with a given aptitude will be proportional to how much you train it.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 15:04 by rchandra

Retreating from the ranged foes should work well, make them come to you around corners/doors.

Buy the acquirement when you can to use on armour or wand - buying the plate was probably better for now.

Don't save a scroll for GDA - enchant your rF plate. The situations where GDA is actually good are very rare, and rF plate is more than good enough to win with. For a minor bonus, getting it to +5 removes all corrosion chances - but I'd put all found scrolls into it.

Evocations is a fine idea when you have something worth training, though using rods + vamp weapon is a hassle (not impossible, and gourmand makes it easier). For now just keep working on armour and long blades. If you really want you could get say 5-6 to boost wands, as some enemies are much easier to deal with that way.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 18:33 by Blomdor

You know, by coinkydink, the last time I thought "hmmmm...I'll save these SoEA for gold dragon hide way down in Zot! Yeah!"...I died horribly. To terrible AC.

Also I did not know that +5 was the magic number. Goodie! Combined with the artefact stuff I've found since my last post, I wonder if I could do Slime as a bonus after reaching max level and getting other runes. I love the Slime Pits but am usually not equipped for it or a high enough XL. TRJ killed off one of my best characters back in .11 - .12 or so and I've been meaning to get back at it ever since.

As an aside, Elf has killed me so many times that I never feel prepared for it anymore and am generally afraid of even peeking down there. I need more MR to even think about that, anyway.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff (webtiles) character file. Blomdor the Fencer (Centaur Berserker) Turns: 34225, Time: 03:26:17 HP 126/126 AC 34 Str 22 XL: 15 Next: 66% MP 11/11 EV 2 Int 6 God: Trog [******] Gold 977 SH 0 Dex 14 Spells: 0 memorised, 14 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + O - +4,+8 claymore (vamp) rCold . . . Clarity . M - +5 plate armour {rF+} rNeg + . . Conserve . (no shield) rPois + rCorr . Q - +2 helmet {SInv} rElec . rRot . D - +2 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . H - +1 pair of gloves {archer} rMut . Warding + k - +2 centaur barding {Fly} Saprov . . . Stasis . d - amulet of warding MR +.... h - +3 ring of dexterity s - ring of poison resistance @: flying, very quick, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: hooves 3, deformed body, herbivore 1, speed 2, fast metabolism 1, tough skin 3, weak 1 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion, Stop Flying You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Trog. Trog is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 27 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth and Bailey. You have collected 3405 gold pieces. You have spent 2428 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons B - a +2,+2 great sword of flaming O - a +4,+8 vampiric claymore (weapon) U - an uncursed longbow Missiles V - 34 arrows Armour k - a +2 centaur barding of flying (worn) D - a +2 cloak (worn) H - a +1 pair of gloves of archery (worn) M - a +5 plate armour of fire resistance (worn) Q - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn) Magical devices C - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} X - a wand of digging {zapped: 7} Comestibles c - 12 bread rations Scrolls a - 3 scrolls of remove curse g - 3 scrolls of teleportation l - a scroll of fog p - 2 scrolls of identify r - a scroll of blinking I - 2 scrolls of fear Jewellery d - an amulet of warding (around neck) h - a +3 ring of dexterity (right hand) q - an uncursed ring of positive energy s - a ring of poison resistance (left hand) P - an uncursed ring of fire R - a scratched garnet ring Potions j - 6 potions of curing u - a potion of restore abilities z - 4 potions of haste A - 6 potions of might Miscellaneous m - a sack of spiders Skills: - Level 10.2 Fighting + Level 20.4 Long Blades + Level 9.5 Armour - Level 1.3 Dodging You have 14 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:6 Orc (4/4) D:10 Elf (0/3) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:8 Swamp (0/5) Lair:5 Snake (0/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:6 Vaults (0/5) D:14 Depths (0/5) D:15 Altars: Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru Sif Muna Shops: D:4 !(=: D:5 ( Orc:1 * Orc:2 [ Orc:4 %(?[: Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have hooves in place of feet. Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. You digest meat inefficiently. You cover ground very quickly. You have a fast metabolism. You have extremely tough skin (AC +3). You are weak. (Str -2) Message History Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. b - a scroll of enchant armour Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop a scroll of enchant armour. Save game and exit? Welcome back, Blomdor the Centaur Berserker. Trog says: Kill them all! Press ? for a list of commands and other information. b - a scroll of enchant armour Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Enchant which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Your +4 plate armour of fire resistance glows green for a moment. ### ######.######### #.............@# ##.............## ##..............### ................#.# ...........<...##.# ...............#..## ..............###..# ..............#.#.## ......##....)##..## There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures A tengu reaver (D:15) A fire giant (D:15) Maud (Lair:4) An orc warlord (Orc:2) Gastronok (D:11) 2 fire dragons A minotaur (Lab) Josephine (D:11) A yaktaur captain (D:15) 5 hydras A tengu warrior (D:15) 6 centaur warriors A deep elf knight (D:14) 3 unseen horrors The ghost of Boregon the Skirmisher, an experienced HOFi (D:5) Pikel (D:5) 3 hill giants 7 orc knights 3 griffons 2 wolf spiders (Lair:8) A cyclops (D:15) 2 orc sorcerers (Orc:4) A red wasp (Lair:8) 3 gargoyles A guardian serpent (Lair:8) 21 black mambas 8 spiny frogs 2 feature mimics 3 yaktaurs A kobold demonologist (D:14) A tengu conjurer (D:15) A queen bee (D:8) An efreet (D:15) A blue devil (D:14) 4 trolls 2 centaur skeletons 3 fire drakes 9 komodo dragons 2 demonic crawlers (D:14) A giant firefly (Lair:2) A deep elf priest (D:14) A trapdoor spider zombie (D:11) A raven (D:15) 2 two-headed ogres A raiju (shapeshifter) (D:15) A boulder beetle (D:14) 3 slime creatures (D:12) 4 basilisks 30 blink frogs 3 shadows A water elemental (D:13) 10 ugly things A grizzly bear (Lair:2) 2 deep elf magi (D:14) A spriggan (Lair:2) 4 hungry ghosts (Lab) The ghost of jimisdead the Covered, an average MiFi (D:3) A wyvern (Lair:4) 33 yaks Eustachio (D:5) A trapdoor spider (D:14) 3 elephant slugs 10 sharks 3 steam dragons (Lair:8) 13 hippogriffs A swamp worm (Lair:5) 7 vampire mosquitoes Menkaure (D:7) 9 wolves 6 wargs 21 water moccasins 3 mottled dragons 11 porcupines 2 swamp drakes (Lair:8) 4 slaves (D:5) 5 sky beasts An ogre skeleton (D:14) 4 spiders (Lair:8) 2 ice beasts A manticore zombie (D:11) 5 giant goldfish 3 yellow wasps (Lair:8) 52 orc warriors 3 black bears 20 centaurs 7 phantoms 15 ogres 2 boring beetles Sigmund (D:7) 5 big kobolds 21 crocodiles 14 giant slugs A brain worm (D:15) 17 giant frogs 2 eyes of draining 6 scorpions 23 killer bees A manticore simulacrum (D:15) 8 electric eels 24 wights 16 hounds 6 crimson imps 3 goliath beetles 2 pulsating lumps (Lair:6) 2 centaur zombies A giant frog zombie (D:11) A quasit (D:14) 12 big fish 2 jellies Crazy Yiuf (D:6) A kobold zombie (D:12) 30 orc wizards A soldier ant zombie (D:10) A black bear skeleton (D:9) 35 orc priests 12 iguanas 15 worker ants A killer bee zombie (D:5) 15 sheep An ogre zombie (D:5) A hound zombie (D:5) A hound skeleton (D:11) A worker ant zombie (D:7) 24 adders 4 gnolls (D:8) 42 green rats 2 orc zombies 3 giant mites 7 shadow imps A goliath beetle zombie (D:11) 5 worms 2 giant eyeballs (D:6) 4 oozes 160 orcs 23 bats 6 giant cockroaches 26 goblins 15 hobgoblins 22 jackals 21 kobolds 13 quokkas A ball python (Lair:5) 5 giant geckos A giant gecko skeleton (D:6) 3 giant newts A giant newt skeleton (D:5) A jackal skeleton (D:5) 2 orc skeletons 32 rats A rat zombie (D:5) 2 ballistomycetes (D:6) A fungus (Lair:8) 5 plants 1147 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A giant spore (D:6) 6 fungi 9 plants 16 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1163 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Blomdor, the Centaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1 291 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/26 MP: 2/2 734 | D:2 | Acquired Trog's second power 1036 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/31 MP: 3/3 1050 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades 1548 | D:3 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 1567 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 38/38 MP: 3/3 1582 | D:3 | Noticed jimisdead's ghost (average MiFi) 1593 | D:3 | Killed jimisdead's ghost 1593 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades 1593 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 45/45 MP: 4/4 1742 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades 2123 | D:4 | Found Qor Ulim's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2244 | D:4 | Found Smufulu's Distillery. 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of mutation for 30 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2292 | D:4 | Found Diplonin's Jewellery Boutique. 2383 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/51 MP: 5/5 2618 | D:4 | Found Kufanowe's Book Emporium. 2762 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Long Blades 2813 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 2823 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 57/57 MP: 5/5 2897 | D:5 | Found Yhemmin's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2959 | D:5 | Acquired Trog's third power 3013 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Long Blades 3066 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 23/63 MP: 6/6 3292 | D:5 | Got an encrusted long sword 3293 | D:5 | Identified the +7,+6 long sword "Xoihuf" {venom, Str+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 3550 | D:5 | Noticed Eustachio 3566 | D:5 | Killed Eustachio 3609 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades 3628 | D:5 | Noticed Boregon's ghost (experienced HOFi) 3647 | D:5 | Killed Boregon's ghost 3951 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Long Blades 3951 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 69/69 MP: 7/7 4076 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4126 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 4335 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 4673 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 4682 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 4931 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5195 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 5204 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 5349 | D:7 | Noticed Sigmund 5355 | D:7 | Killed Sigmund 5669 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Long Blades 5943 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 57/84 MP: 7/7 6037 | D:8 | Received a gift from Trog 6389 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 6765 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7404 | D:4 | Bought an uncursed ring of poison resistance for 260 gold pieces 7842 | Lair:1 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Long Blades 7933 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 36/97 MP: 8/8 8453 | Lair:1 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 8460 | Lair:1 | Killed a 11-headed hydra 8522 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 9070 | Lair:1 | Noticed a black mamba 9085 | Lair:1 | Killed a black mamba 10040 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog 11053 | Lair:2 | Got a bone spear 11054 | Lair:2 | Identified the +6,+3 spear "Sagrus" {flame, rN+ Dex-1 Int+3} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 11234 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Long Blades 11552 | Lair:2 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 3 turns 12019 | Lair:3 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 12036 | Lair:3 | Killed a ten-headed hydra 12036 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 91/106 MP: 9/9 12291 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 12293 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Trog 12346 | Lair:3 | Got a distressingly furry scale mail 12363 | Lair:3 | Identified the +1 scale mail of Shraoppol {rF++} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 13146 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Long Blades 13512 | Lair:4 | Noticed Maud 13523 | Lair:4 | Killed Maud 13809 | Lair:4 | Got a bloodstained quarterstaff 13810 | Lair:4 | Identified the cursed +2,+2 quarterstaff "Iczieg" {speed, rElec MR+ Dex+1} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts) 14340 | Lair:5 | Received a gift from Trog 14395 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 14742 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 16 in Long Blades 15292 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 15774 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 15794 | Lair:6 | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [pulsating lump's mutagenic touch] 15795 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 107/113 MP: 9/9 16856 | Lair:7 | Received a gift from Trog 16919 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 17 in Long Blades 17851 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 17940 | Lair:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 18494 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 18809 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 18 in Long Blades 19312 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 19975 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 110/121 MP: 10/10 21375 | D:9 | Received a gift from Trog 21573 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21573 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 21825 | D:10 | Reached skill level 19 in Long Blades 21873 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 21976 | Orc:1 | Found Frovied's General Store. 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought 2 scrolls of blinking for 210 gold pieces 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 105 gold pieces 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 105 gold pieces 22191 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord 22214 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 22258 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog 22917 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 22968 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 24534 | Orc:4 | Found Chuikoti's Antique Weapon Shop. 24534 | Orc:4 | Found Jiupn's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 24548 | Orc:4 | Found Shronim's Food Boutique. 24727 | Orc:4 | Found Petukhlar's Armour Emporium. 24741 | Orc:4 | Bought a +4 plate armour of fire resistance for 500 gold pieces 24763 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 135 gold pieces 24763 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 99 gold pieces 24851 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 24974 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 25064 | Orc:4 | Found Eguint's Book Emporium. 25548 | Orc:2 | Found Deneshal's Armour Emporium. 25673 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog 26285 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of acquirement for 936 gold pieces 26898 | D:11 | Noticed Gastronok 26911 | D:11 | Killed Gastronok 26976 | D:11 | Noticed Josephine 26982 | D:11 | Killed Josephine 27736 | D:12 | Found a flagged portal. 27748 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 27988 | Bailey | Received a gift from Trog 28650 | D:13 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 28665 | D:13 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 28900 | D:13 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 126/126 MP: 11/11 28923 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 29853 | Lab | Got an ancient cloak 29888 | D:13 | Identified the +1 cloak of the Harvest {rPois} (You found it in a labyrinth) 30693 | D:14 | Received a gift from Trog 30956 | D:14 | Reached skill level 20 in Long Blades 31453 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 31696 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 31720 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths. 32682 | D:15 | Noticed a tengu reaver 32697 | D:15 | Killed a tengu reaver 33686 | D:15 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 34223 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.14.0-2-gd2dacb9 to 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Falchion | 86 | 114 | 59 | | || 259 Long sword | | | 134 | | || 134 Great sword | | | 78 | 275 | 3 || 356 Claymore | | | | 476 | 1834 || 2310 Invok: Berserk | | 3 | 4 | 6 | 10 || 23 Burn Spellbooks | | | | 3 | 9 || 12 Evoke: Wand | 1 | | 3 | 6 | 18 || 28 Use: Potion | 2 | 3 | 2 | 9 | 12 || 28 Scroll | 7 | 4 | 3 | 20 | 25 || 59 Stab: Fleeing | | | | 1 | || 1 Paralysed | | | | 1 | || 1 Invisible | | | | | 1 || 1

Check out this barding the scroll of acquirement got me. I'm flying!

Fire giant guarding the Depths was awfully surprised when I just galloped straight over the lava and into his face.

EDIT: Veeeerrrry cautiously cleared the Snake Pit down to 5, and most of the area around the vault as well. Took out Nikola, Aizul, and Vashnia in the process. Much needed XP. Not touching the rune with a 50 foot pole at the moment, though.

On Snake:5 I found an artefact +10 plate armor that grants +2 dexterity and drastically lowers stealth. Since I'm not stealthy anyway, I figure all I'm losing out on is fire resistance. Oh well; I suppose the AC I used on the other plate helped me survive to get there.

Which is more dangerous, the Snake rune vault or the Depths down to Zot? I'm terrified of greater nagas.

Doing Swamp now, but may hold off on its rune as well. The attempt has previously killed two promising characters.

P.S. You may have noticed that I got some -2 strength mutation ages ago. I'm assuming that's not some huge nerf. I certainly haven't noticed it, and might even make a thread on the importance of the stat at all in the future. Lately when I play fighters, I raise nothing but int and generally feel, if not more powerful, then at least a *lot* more versatile.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 20:21 by Blomdor

I SURVIVED THE ABYSS!

IsurvivedtheAbyssIsurvivedtheAbyssIsurvivedtheAbyssIsurvivedtheAbyss...

I love you guys.

And not a single consumable used!

Friday, 11th April 2014, 20:23 by GlassGo

Blomdor wrote:And not a single consumable used!

Friday, 11th April 2014, 20:46 by tasonir

Congrats! After you finish up long blades I'd definitely try to focus on fighting/armor for a while. Get your defenses up, try to avoid taking damage, even though you have vampiric. Best to treat the healing as a bonus rather than something you rely upon to survive

At some point dodging will be worth it, but fighting/armor first.

You might want to replace the archery gloves with something else, unless you're actually using a bow. They have a high slaying bonus (I think it's +3/+5, I could be wrong) for ranged weapons but actually apply -1/-1 to melee. Not that you'll really notice that with a giant claymore, but if you have some other gloves they'd be better. Note that if you don't have another glove, keep wearing your gloves, because the +2-3 ac that they provide is better than -1/-1 slaying.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 23:19 by Blomdor

Once again, a little important detail I knew nothing about! I thought they were just better gloves.

I did consider training bows for a long time, but it's so far into the game that I do not know if it's really worth it at this point. Centaurs have incredible aptitudes for it, but I'm not sure if that will make up for lost time and XP, or if it's even something to consider when I am still far from maximally durable although I am still quite damn hard to kill.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff (webtiles) character file. Blomdor the Centaur Blade (Centaur Berserker) Turns: 61298, Time: 06:52:28 HP 191/191 AC 48 Str 27 XL: 21 Next: 32% MP 16/16 EV 4 Int 8 God: Trog [******] Gold 2577 SH 0 Dex 10 Spells: 0 memorised, 20 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + O - +8,+9 claymore (vamp) rCold . . . Rnd*Rage + K - +10 plate armour of Darkness {Int+2 Stlth-} rNeg + . . Conserve . (no shield) rPois . rCorr . Q - +2 helmet {SInv} rElec + rRot . D - +2 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . Z - +2 pair of gloves rMut . Warding + k - +4 centaur barding {Fly} Saprov . . . Stasis . d - amulet of warding MR +++++ i - ring of Lemaum {Hunger- rElec MR++} r - ring of Psimul {+Blink +Rage +Fly MR++} @: flying, very quick, almost entirely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: hooves 3, molten scales 1, berserk 1, clumsy 1, deformed body, herbivore 1, speed 2, fast metabolism 1, high mp 1, tough skin 3 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink, Evoke Berserk Rage, Stop Flying }: 2/15 runes: decaying, silver You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Trog. Trog is exalted by your worship. You are full. You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 42 of its levels. You have visited the Abyss 1 time. You have also visited: Labyrinth and Bailey. You have collected 6662 gold pieces. You have spent 4085 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons H - the +4,+10 great sword of Dried Tears {antimagic, Dex+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Vaults) It disrupts the flow of magical energy around spellcasters and certain magical creatures (including the wielder). It affects your dexterity (+2). O - a +8,+9 vampiric claymore (weapon) Armour k - a +4 centaur barding of flying (worn) D - a +2 cloak (worn) K - the +10 plate armour of Darkness (worn) {Int+2 Stlth-} (You found it on level 5 of the Snake Pit) It affects your intelligence (+2). It makes you much less stealthy. Q - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn) Z - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) Magical devices n - a wand of teleportation p - a wand of digging Comestibles c - 22 bread rations Scrolls a - 10 scrolls of remove curse g - 2 scrolls of teleportation l - 3 scrolls of fog u - 2 scrolls of identify E - a scroll of magic mapping F - a scroll of summoning N - a scroll of enchant weapon I R - a scroll of enchant weapon III Jewellery d - an amulet of warding (around neck) i - the ring of Lemaum (right hand) {Hunger- rElec MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon) [ring of sustenance] It insulates you from electricity. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. r - the ring of Psimul (left hand) {+Blink +Rage +Fly MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Vaults) [ring of flight] It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It lets you blink. It lets you go berserk. x - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion U - an uncursed ring of regeneration Potions h - a potion of heal wounds z - 3 potions of haste A - 3 potions of might B - a potion of agility T - a potion of restore abilities V - a potion of curing Miscellaneous b - a lamp of fire m - a sack of spiders t - a fan of gales v - a stone of tremors y - a lamp of fire L - a stone of tremors Y - a fan of gales Skills: + Level 17.0 Fighting - Level 24.0 Long Blades + Level 16.0 Armour - Level 1.3 Dodging You have 20 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:6 Orc (4/4) D:10 Elf (0/3) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:8 Swamp (5/5) Lair:5 Snake (5/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:6 Vaults (5/5) D:14 Blade (0/1) Vaults:3 Crypt (0/5) Vaults:3 Depths (0/5) D:15 Altars: Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru Sif Muna Yredelemnul Shops: D:4 !(=: D:5 ( Orc:1 * Orc:2 [ Orc:4 %(?[: Vaults:5 = Annotations: Swamp:5 Lernaean hydra Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have hooves in place of feet. Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. You digest meat inefficiently. You cover ground very quickly. You have a fast metabolism. You have extremely tough skin (AC +3). You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). You tend to lose your temper in combat. You are clumsy. (Dex -2) You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). Message History You drop an uncursed ring of poison resistance. You drop a royal jelly. You drop a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1}. You drop a ring of fire. You drop a scroll of fear. You drop an uncursed ring of sustain abilities. You drop an uncursed ring of fire. You drop a ring of fire. You drop 4 scrolls of enchant weapon II. You drop a wand of teleportation. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Save game and exit? Welcome back, Blomdor the Centaur Berserker. Trog says: Kill them all! Press ? for a list of commands and other information. Unknown command. ### ######.######### #.............@# ##.............## ##..............### ................#.# ...........<...##.# ...............#..## ..............###..# ..............#.#.## ......##....)##..## There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures 2 ancient liches (Vaults:5) Saint Roka (Swamp:5) Margery (Vaults:2) Norris (Vaults:2) A golden dragon (Vaults:5) A bone dragon (Vaults:5) 2 liches 2 tentacled monstrosities (Vaults:5) 5 sphinxes (Vaults:5) 3 thorn hunters Rupert (Swamp:5) Agnes (Swamp:4) Frances (Swamp:2) 3 shadow dragons (Vaults:5) Kirke (Swamp:5) 3 tengu reavers 5 fire giants An iron dragon (Vaults:5) 21 vault wardens Maud (Lair:4) A frost giant (Vaults:5) Aizul (Snake:2) Louise (Swamp:5) 3 deep elf sorcerers An orc warlord (Orc:2) Gastronok (D:11) Jorgrun (Vaults:2) 7 stone giants 2 deep elf demonologists 2 war gargoyles (Vaults:5) A deep elf annihilator (Vaults:5) 7 ettins 2 crystal guardians 4 fire dragons A minotaur (Lab) Josephine (D:11) 2 deep elf high priests (Vaults:5) 11 yaktaur captains 26 vault guards 11 ironheart preservers A ravenous feature mimic (Swamp:5) 5 great orbs of eyes 3 ice dragons 6 naga warriors 21 hydras 5 shambling mangroves 2 deep troll earth magi 2 anacondas 4 alligators 5 ogre magi A tengu warrior (D:15) A thrashing horror (Abyss:1) 8 shock serpents 9 naga sharpshooters 3 very ugly things (Vaults:4) 2 dancing weapons (Vaults:3) 9 centaur warriors 4 deep elf knights A fire crab (Vaults:4) 4 iron trolls 3 shadow wraiths 2 salamander mystics 3 unseen horrors A spriggan druid (Swamp:5) 7 deep trolls 4 hell knights (Vaults:2) A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 4 flayed ghosts A wizard (Vaults:1) 11 swamp dragons A deep elf summoner (Vaults:5) A shadow dragon zombie (Vaults:5) The ghost of Boregon the Skirmisher, an experienced HOFi (D:5) 4 naga ritualists Pikel (D:5) A giant orange brain (Vaults:4) 11 mana vipers A tengu zombie (Vaults:5) 4 hill giants 13 orc knights A wolf spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 5 necromancers 4 griffons 5 harpies (Vaults:2) 4 wolf spiders A fire giant zombie (Vaults:5) A stone giant zombie (Vaults:3) 18 ironbrand convokers A human zombie (Vaults:5) 2 cyclopes A phantasmal warrior (Vaults:4) 4 orc sorcerers A black mamba (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 13 salamanders 5 red wasps A frost giant skeleton (Vaults:5) A stone giant skeleton (Vaults:3) 3 gargoyles 3 guardian serpents 12 vault sentinels 18 naga magi 46 black mambas 19 spiny frogs 2 feature mimics 23 yaktaurs A yaktaur zombie (Vaults:3) 2 kobold demonologists A tengu conjurer (D:15) A queen bee (D:8) 2 freezing wraiths (Vaults:4) An efreet (D:15) A blue devil (D:14) 5 trolls 2 centaur skeletons 3 fire drakes 9 komodo dragons A tengu simulacrum (Vaults:3) 2 demonic crawlers (D:14) 2 komodo dragons (shapeshifter) 5 giant fireflies 7 deep elf priests A hellwing (Vaults:2) A trapdoor spider zombie (D:11) 6 boggarts 12 ravens 16 two-headed ogres 2 raiju (shapeshifter) 3 boulder beetles 8 giant leeches 20 slime creatures A blink frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) 3 brown oozes (Swamp:4) 18 bog bodies 4 basilisks A wraith (Vaults:1) 30 blink frogs A grizzly bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) 3 shadows A water elemental (D:13) 4 thorn lotuses 31 ugly things A grizzly bear (Lair:2) A tarantella (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 7 deep elf magi 5 spriggans An ettin skeleton (Vaults:5) 4 hungry ghosts (Lab) A yaktaur simulacrum (Vaults:5) The ghost of jimisdead the Covered, an average MiFi (D:3) A wyvern (Lair:4) 33 yaks Eustachio (D:5) A trapdoor spider (D:14) 3 elephant slugs 10 sharks A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 10 deep elf fighters 3 steam dragons (Lair:8) 13 hippogriffs 3 hogs (Swamp:5) 27 swamp worms 21 vampire mosquitoes Menkaure (D:7) 10 wolves 11 wargs 42 water moccasins 5 mottled dragons A black bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 11 porcupines 41 nagas 13 swamp drakes 4 slaves (D:5) 5 sky beasts An ogre skeleton (D:14) 4 spiders (Lair:8) 3 ice beasts A manticore zombie (D:11) 9 giant goldfish 6 yellow wasps 61 orc warriors 3 black bears 20 centaurs 8 phantoms 35 ogres 2 boring beetles Sigmund (D:7) 5 big kobolds 22 crocodiles 15 giant slugs A brain worm (D:15) 18 giant frogs 6 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:4) 2 eyes of draining 6 scorpions 23 killer bees A manticore simulacrum (D:15) 8 electric eels 24 wights 16 hounds 6 crimson imps 3 goliath beetles 2 pulsating lumps (Lair:6) 2 centaur zombies A giant frog zombie (D:11) 4 human simulacra A quasit (D:14) 16 big fish 2 jellies Crazy Yiuf (D:6) A kobold zombie (D:12) 34 orc wizards A soldier ant zombie (D:10) A black bear skeleton (D:9) 35 orc priests 12 iguanas 15 worker ants A killer bee zombie (D:5) 15 sheep An ogre zombie (D:5) A hound zombie (D:5) A hound skeleton (D:11) A worker ant zombie (D:7) 33 adders 4 gnolls (D:8) 42 green rats 2 orc zombies 3 giant mites 7 shadow imps A goliath beetle zombie (D:11) 5 worms 2 giant eyeballs (D:6) 4 oozes 172 orcs 24 bats 6 giant cockroaches 26 goblins 15 hobgoblins 22 jackals 21 kobolds 13 quokkas 3 ball pythons 5 giant geckos A giant gecko skeleton (D:6) 3 giant newts A giant newt skeleton (D:5) A jackal skeleton (D:5) 2 orc skeletons 32 rats A rat zombie (D:5) 2 ballistomycetes (D:6) A fungus (Lair:8) 6 plants 1929 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Mara (Vaults:2) Vashnia (Snake:2) 2 yaktaur captains A deep elf high priest (Vaults:5) A hydra (Swamp:5) A shock serpent (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 4 naga sharpshooters A swamp dragon (Swamp:5) An ironbrand convoker (Vaults:5) A naga (Snake:5) 14 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) Nikola (Snake:1) An ogre mage (Vaults:1) An iron troll (Swamp:5) A red wasp (Vaults:1) A troll (Swamp:5) A two-headed ogre (Vaults:1) 2 humans (Swamp:5) A big fish (Swamp:1) A giant spore (D:6) An orc zombie (Vaults:2) A bush (Swamp:5) 7 fungi 10 plants 29 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1972 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Blomdor, the Centaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1 291 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/26 MP: 2/2 734 | D:2 | Acquired Trog's second power 1036 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/31 MP: 3/3 1050 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades 1548 | D:3 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 1567 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 38/38 MP: 3/3 1582 | D:3 | Noticed jimisdead's ghost (average MiFi) 1593 | D:3 | Killed jimisdead's ghost 1593 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades 1593 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 45/45 MP: 4/4 1742 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades 2123 | D:4 | Found Qor Ulim's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2244 | D:4 | Found Smufulu's Distillery. 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of mutation for 30 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2292 | D:4 | Found Diplonin's Jewellery Boutique. 2383 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/51 MP: 5/5 2618 | D:4 | Found Kufanowe's Book Emporium. 2762 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Long Blades 2813 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 2823 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 57/57 MP: 5/5 2897 | D:5 | Found Yhemmin's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2959 | D:5 | Acquired Trog's third power 3013 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Long Blades 3066 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 23/63 MP: 6/6 3292 | D:5 | Got an encrusted long sword 3293 | D:5 | Identified the +7,+6 long sword "Xoihuf" {venom, Str+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 3550 | D:5 | Noticed Eustachio 3566 | D:5 | Killed Eustachio 3609 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades 3628 | D:5 | Noticed Boregon's ghost (experienced HOFi) 3647 | D:5 | Killed Boregon's ghost 3951 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Long Blades 3951 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 69/69 MP: 7/7 4076 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4126 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 4335 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 4673 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 4682 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 4931 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5195 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 5204 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 5349 | D:7 | Noticed Sigmund 5355 | D:7 | Killed Sigmund 5669 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Long Blades 5943 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 57/84 MP: 7/7 6037 | D:8 | Received a gift from Trog 6389 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 6765 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7404 | D:4 | Bought an uncursed ring of poison resistance for 260 gold pieces 7842 | Lair:1 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Long Blades 7933 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 36/97 MP: 8/8 8453 | Lair:1 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 8460 | Lair:1 | Killed a 11-headed hydra 8522 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 9070 | Lair:1 | Noticed a black mamba 9085 | Lair:1 | Killed a black mamba 10040 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog 11053 | Lair:2 | Got a bone spear 11054 | Lair:2 | Identified the +6,+3 spear "Sagrus" {flame, rN+ Dex-1 Int+3} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 11234 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Long Blades 11552 | Lair:2 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 3 turns 12019 | Lair:3 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 12036 | Lair:3 | Killed a ten-headed hydra 12036 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 91/106 MP: 9/9 12291 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 12293 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Trog 12346 | Lair:3 | Got a distressingly furry scale mail 12363 | Lair:3 | Identified the +1 scale mail of Shraoppol {rF++} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 13146 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Long Blades 13512 | Lair:4 | Noticed Maud 13523 | Lair:4 | Killed Maud 13809 | Lair:4 | Got a bloodstained quarterstaff 13810 | Lair:4 | Identified the cursed +2,+2 quarterstaff "Iczieg" {speed, rElec MR+ Dex+1} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts) 14340 | Lair:5 | Received a gift from Trog 14395 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 14742 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 16 in Long Blades 15292 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 15774 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 15794 | Lair:6 | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [pulsating lump's mutagenic touch] 15795 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 107/113 MP: 9/9 16856 | Lair:7 | Received a gift from Trog 16919 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 17 in Long Blades 17851 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 17940 | Lair:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 18494 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 18809 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 18 in Long Blades 19312 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 19975 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 110/121 MP: 10/10 21375 | D:9 | Received a gift from Trog 21573 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21573 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 21825 | D:10 | Reached skill level 19 in Long Blades 21873 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 21976 | Orc:1 | Found Frovied's General Store. 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought 2 scrolls of blinking for 210 gold pieces 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 105 gold pieces 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 105 gold pieces 22191 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord 22214 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 22258 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog 22917 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 22968 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 24534 | Orc:4 | Found Chuikoti's Antique Weapon Shop. 24534 | Orc:4 | Found Jiupn's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 24548 | Orc:4 | Found Shronim's Food Boutique. 24727 | Orc:4 | Found Petukhlar's Armour Emporium. 24741 | Orc:4 | Bought a +4 plate armour of fire resistance for 500 gold pieces 24763 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 135 gold pieces 24763 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 99 gold pieces 24851 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 24974 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 25064 | Orc:4 | Found Eguint's Book Emporium. 25548 | Orc:2 | Found Deneshal's Armour Emporium. 25673 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog 26285 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of acquirement for 936 gold pieces 26898 | D:11 | Noticed Gastronok 26911 | D:11 | Killed Gastronok 26976 | D:11 | Noticed Josephine 26982 | D:11 | Killed Josephine 27736 | D:12 | Found a flagged portal. 27748 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 27988 | Bailey | Received a gift from Trog 28650 | D:13 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 28665 | D:13 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 28900 | D:13 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 126/126 MP: 11/11 28923 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 29853 | Lab | Got an ancient cloak 29888 | D:13 | Identified the +1 cloak of the Harvest {rPois} (You found it in a labyrinth) 30693 | D:14 | Received a gift from Trog 30956 | D:14 | Reached skill level 20 in Long Blades 31453 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 31696 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 31720 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths. 32682 | D:15 | Noticed a tengu reaver 32697 | D:15 | Killed a tengu reaver 33686 | D:15 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 34223 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.14.0-2-gd2dacb9 to 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff 34349 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit 34424 | Snake:1 | Got a vibrating golden ring 34809 | Snake:1 | Received a gift from Trog 35020 | Snake:1 | Noticed Nikola 35031 | Snake:1 | Killed Nikola 35516 | Snake:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 36184 | Snake:2 | Noticed Aizul 36206 | Snake:2 | Killed Aizul 36206 | Snake:2 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 134/134 MP: 8/11 36620 | Snake:2 | Noticed Vashnia 37164 | Snake:2 | Killed Vashnia 38243 | Snake:3 | Received a gift from Trog 38243 | Snake:3 | Reached skill level 21 in Long Blades 38251 | Snake:3 | Got a jewelled dire flail {god gift} 38792 | Snake:3 | Got a faintly glowing cloak 38796 | Snake:3 | Identified the +0 cloak of the Trilobite {Dex+2 Stlth--} (You acquired it on level 3 of the Snake Pit) 38804 | Snake:3 | Identified the ring "Utzyrph" {Hunger Dex+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit) 39690 | Snake:4 | Received a gift from Trog 40756 | Snake:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit 41296 | Snake:5 | Got a distressingly furry plate armour 41297 | Snake:5 | Identified the +10 plate armour of Darkness {Int+2 Stlth-} (You found it on level 5 of the Snake Pit) 42521 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 42561 | Swamp:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 140/140 MP: 12/12 42704 | Swamp:1 | Received a gift from Trog 42712 | Swamp:1 | Got a jewelled glaive {god gift} 43121 | Swamp:2 | Noticed Frances 43245 | Swamp:2 | Killed Frances 43327 | Swamp:2 | Lost mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [potion of cure mutation] 44073 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Long Blades 44393 | Swamp:3 | Got a fine sling 44501 | Swamp:3 | Received a gift from Trog 44904 | Swamp:4 | Identified the +8,+8 sling of Grace {velocity, rF+ rN+} (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp) 44904 | Swamp:4 | Identified the +1,+4 dire flail of Cluarphea {speed, rF- rC++ MR+ Dex+2} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Snake Pit) 44904 | Swamp:4 | Identified the +9,+4 glaive of the Crawling Thing {freeze, rElec MR+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 1 of the Swamp) 45317 | Swamp:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp 45742 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Kirke 45752 | Swamp:5 | Killed Kirke 46072 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Rupert 46077 | Swamp:5 | Paralysed by Rupert for 7 turns 46107 | Swamp:5 | Killed Rupert 46268 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Louise 46271 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Agnes 46275 | Swamp:5 | Cast into the Abyss (Louise) 46275 | Abyss:1 | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu. 46340 | Swamp:5 | Escaped the Abyss 46712 | D:4 | Bought the ring of Lemaum {Hunger- rElec MR++} for 518 gold pieces 46970 | Orc:4 | Bought the +4 robe of Night {+Inv MR+ SInv Stlth+} for 445 gold pieces 47400 | Swamp:4 | Killed Agnes 47663 | Swamp:5 | Killed Louise 47809 | Swamp:5 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 136/148 MP: 13/13 48116 | Swamp:5 | Received a gift from Trog 48154 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Saint Roka 48374 | Swamp:5 | Killed Saint Roka 48625 | Swamp:5 | Noticed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra 48739 | Swamp:5 | Got a decaying rune of Zot 49247 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 50355 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog 51664 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 23 in Long Blades 51914 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Norris 51929 | Vaults:2 | Killed Norris 51979 | Vaults:2 | Got a jewelled great sword 51980 | Vaults:2 | Identified the +4,+10 great sword of Dried Tears {antimagic, Dex+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Vaults) 52195 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Jorgrun 52207 | Vaults:2 | Killed Jorgrun 52318 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Margery 52516 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Mara 52520 | Vaults:2 | Killed Mara 52617 | Vaults:2 | Killed Margery 52789 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog 53562 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 141/159 MP: 13/13 53786 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog 55011 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog 55100 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt. 55100 | Vaults:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 55101 | Vaults:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 55285 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades. 56262 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog 56494 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 24 in Long Blades 56882 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults 57375 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog 57381 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 174/174 MP: 14/14 57713 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). [potion of beneficial mutation] 57762 | Vaults:5 | Noticed an ancient lich 57908 | Vaults:5 | Killed an ancient lich 57908 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting 58032 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog 58101 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour 58134 | Vaults:5 | Noticed an ancient lich 58147 | Vaults:5 | Killed an ancient lich 58652 | Vaults:5 | HP: 4/180 [vault sentinel/ bolt (20)] 58661 | Vaults:5 | HP: 5/180 [vault sentinel/ bolt (19)] 58922 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [a cacodemon] 58929 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [a cacodemon] 58932 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). [a cacodemon] 59447 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a bone dragon 59615 | Vaults:5 | Killed a bone dragon 59615 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 150/189 MP: 16/16 59732 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot 60050 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog 60195 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a golden dragon 60211 | Vaults:5 | Killed a golden dragon 60278 | Vaults:5 | Got a polished halberd 60279 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -2,+3 halberd of Righteous Anger {slay drac, -Tele rF+ rC+ rN+ Int+2} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60319 | Vaults:5 | Got a shimmering helmet 60320 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -5 helmet of Trial and Error {Dex+1 Acc+6} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60346 | Vaults:5 | Got a faintly glowing chain mail 60347 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed +0 chain mail of Boredom {rF+ rC+} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60656 | Vaults:5 | Got a steaming helmet 60669 | Vaults:5 | Got a shimmering leather armour 60670 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -5 helmet of Boredom {Dex-2 Dam+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60670 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +3 leather armour "Sotienol" {Str+1 Int+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60766 | Vaults:5 | Found Qoas' Jewellery Shoppe. 60790 | Vaults:5 | Bought the ring of Psimul {+Blink +Rage +Fly MR++} for 694 gold pieces Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Falchion | 86 | 114 | 59 | | | | || 259 Long sword | | | 134 | | | | || 134 Great sword | | | 78 | 275 | 3 | | || 356 Claymore | | | | 476 | 2008 | 1831 | 1140 || 5455 Invok: Berserk | | 3 | 4 | 6 | 12 | 7 | 1 || 33 Burn Spellbooks | | | | 3 | 9 | 4 | 6 || 22 Trog's Hand | | | | | 1 | | 1 || 2 Brothers in Arms | | | | | | 7 | 4 || 11 Evoke: Wand | 1 | | 3 | 6 | 18 | 3 | 2 || 33 Lamp of fire | | | | | | 1 | || 1 Stone of tremors | | | | | | 1 | || 1 Use: Potion | 2 | 3 | 2 | 9 | 12 | 5 | 3 || 36 Scroll | 7 | 4 | 3 | 20 | 25 | 24 | 14 || 97 Stab: Fleeing | | | | 1 | | | || 1 Paralysed | | | | 1 | | | || 1 Invisible | | | | | 1 | | || 1 Confused | | | | | | 2 | || 2 Distracted | | | | | | 1 | || 1

As you see, I had a nasty run in with a couple of ancient liches on Vaults:5 and the resulting demon summons happened to throw something out that mutated me (or would another caster have been responsible? The elves were all over Vaults today, too). Berserkitis, of all things. Much better
than teleportitis, but still not exactly my favorite mutation. Could be worse, I suppose. There's not a single potion of cure mutation in the entire dungeon thus far bar the one I stupidly quaff ID'd on something like D:2 (and yes, I know better than to quaff ID; sometimes I get bored being ultra careful with new characters that just get blown up by priests before XL5). No amulets of stasis at all, not that I would want to wear one. I can only hope that the random berserking doesn't get me killed.

Two runes! I'm STILL terrified of greater nagas and am tempted to do Slime, but there's mutating crap down there, too.

This is the very first run I have ever made in which I fully enchanted my armor. I don't know what to do with the enchantment scrolls I have left. Stash 'em and see if they somehow come in handy later, I guess. Very nice scroll luck this game, if not so much with potions. My weapon only needs one more attack increase before being maxed out as well, and I have scrolls for that.

Friday, 11th April 2014, 23:38 by TheDefiniteArticle

Slime is part of the extended endgame (15 runes), and it's usually a bad idea to go there in a normal 3 rune game. You are right to fear greater nagas, but if you were powerful enough to clear the final level of Vaults, Snake should be no problem.

You were probably mutated by a neqoxec, a minor demon that can be summoned by a number of spellcasters. It only needs a clear line of fire to mutate you, but it is weak, so you can use strong ranged attacks to kill it in a turn or two. Shining eyes can also mutate you, and are much like neqoxecs. In both cases you can use other monsters to block line of fire and prevent mutation. Cacodemons have a mutating melee attack; they are incredibly rare in a 3 rune game, but i think liches might be able to summon them. Orbs of fire mutate you much like neqoxecs/shining eyes, but mutations are the least of your concerns if an orb of fire is attacking you (and besides, they are at the very end of the game, so you won't have the mutation for very long anyway).

Saturday, 12th April 2014, 01:46 by Blomdor

I did it. I killed The Royal Jelly. I never thought I would actually make a character powerful enough to kill The Royal Jelly.

And I mean, he did just fine. Just cost him a scroll of teleportation, some Trog piety (still at five pips), and ten max HP from the damn death oozes (how ARE you supposed to avoid that?).

I have four runes! (Snake was a cakewalk. Dang. Toughest character I have ever made.)

Now...

To start the Orb run, or try for a fifth?

EDIT: He ended up losing 16 max HP and losing 4 dexterity and 2 strength from mutations. I'm not overly concerned about this, but if I should be, let me know. I'm already on the lookout for a potion of cure mutation. They seem to be incredibly rare things.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff (webtiles) character file. Blomdor the Centaur Blade (Centaur Berserker) Turns: 69213, Time: 07:43:09 HP 190/190 (206) AC 48 Str 25 XL: 22 Next: 60% MP 16/16 EV 4 Int 7 (8) God: Trog [*****.] Gold 2534 SH 0 Dex 10 Spells: 0 memorised, 21 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + O - +8,+9 claymore (vamp) rCold . . . Rnd*Rage + K - +10 plate armour of Darkness {Int+2 Stlth-} rNeg + . . Conserve . (no shield) rPois + rCorr . Q - +1 helmet {SInv} rElec + rRot . D - +2 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . Z - +2 pair of gloves rMut . Warding + k - +4 centaur barding {Fly} Saprov . . . Stasis . z - amulet "Psoh Opru" {Ward rPois Dex+2 Acc+3} MR +++++ i - ring of Lemaum {Hunger- rElec MR++} r - ring of Psimul {+Blink +Rage +Fly MR++} @: flying, studying Unarmed Combat, very quick, almost entirely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: hooves 3, molten scales 1, berserk 1, clumsy 2, deformed body, herbivore 1, speed 2, fast metabolism 1, high mp 1, mutation resistance 1, tough skin 3, weak 1 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink, Evoke Berserk Rage, Stop Flying }: 4/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Trog. Trog is extremely pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 48 of its levels. You have visited the Abyss 1 time. You have also visited: Labyrinth and Bailey. You have collected 6939 gold pieces. You have spent 4405 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons w - the +10,+5 long sword of Conflict {flame, rF- rC+ Dex-4 Stlth} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Pits of Slime) It emits flame when wielded, causing extra injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible opponents. Big, fiery blades are also staple armaments of hydra-hunters. It affects your dexterity (-4). It makes you vulnerable to fire. It protects you from cold. It makes you more stealthy. H - the +4,+10 great sword of Dried Tears {antimagic, Dex+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Vaults) It disrupts the flow of magical energy around spellcasters and certain magical creatures (including the wielder). It affects your dexterity (+2). O - a +8,+9 vampiric claymore (weapon) Armour k - a +4 centaur barding of flying (worn) D - a +2 cloak (worn) K - the +10 plate armour of Darkness (worn) {Int+2 Stlth-} (You found it on level 5 of the Snake Pit) It affects your intelligence (+2). It makes you much less stealthy. Q - a +1 helmet of see invisible (worn) Z - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) Magical devices n - a wand of teleportation p - a wand of digging {zapped: 4} P - a wand of paralysis Comestibles c - 18 bread rations h - a meat ration G - a choko Scrolls a - 15 scrolls of remove curse g - a scroll of teleportation l - 4 scrolls of fog C - 5 scrolls of identify E - a scroll of magic mapping F - a scroll of summoning N - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon I R - a scroll of enchant weapon III V - a scroll of silence Jewellery i - the ring of Lemaum (right hand) {Hunger- rElec MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon) [ring of sustenance] It insulates you from electricity. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. r - the ring of Psimul (left hand) {+Blink +Rage +Fly MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Vaults) [ring of flight] It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It lets you blink. It lets you go berserk. z - the amulet "Psoh Opru" (around neck) {Ward rPois Dex+2 Acc+3} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime) [amulet of warding] It affects your dexterity (+2). It affects your accuracy with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+3). It protects you from poison. Potions u - a potion of restore abilities A - 3 potions of might B - a potion of agility I - 2 potions of haste Books f - a manual of Unarmed Combat Miscellaneous b - a lamp of fire m - a sack of spiders t - a fan of gales v - a stone of tremors y - a lamp of fire L - a stone of tremors S - a phial of floods Y - a fan of gales Skills: + Level 19.2 Fighting - Level 24.0 Long Blades + Level 17.5 Armour - Level 1.3 Dodging You have 21 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:6 Orc (4/4) D:10 Elf (0/3) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:8 Swamp (5/5) Lair:5 Snake (5/5) Lair:5 Slime (6/6) Lair:6 Vaults (5/5) D:14 Blade (0/1) Vaults:3 Crypt (0/5) Vaults:3 Depths (0/5) D:15 Altars: Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru Sif Muna Yredelemnul Jiyva Shops: D:4 !(=: D:5 ( Orc:1 * Orc:2 [ Orc:4 %(?[: Vaults:5 = Annotations: Swamp:5 Lernaean hydra Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have hooves in place of feet. Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. You digest meat inefficiently. You cover ground very quickly. You have a fast metabolism. You have extremely tough skin (AC +3). You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). You tend to lose your temper in combat. You are very clumsy. (Dex -4) You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You are weak. (Str -2) Message History Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You start removing your armour. You continue taking off the +1 cloak of the Harvest {rPois}. You finish taking off the +1 cloak of the Harvest {rPois}. You start putting on your armour. You continue putting on your +2 cloak. You finish putting on your +2 cloak. Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop an uncursed amulet of warding. You drop a potion of berserk rage. You drop the +1 cloak of the Harvest {rPois}. You drop an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion. You drop an uncursed ring of poison resistance. You drop an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion. You drop a ring of ice. You drop the amulet "Twepeduj" {Gourm rF+}. You drop an uncursed ring of regeneration. Unknown command. 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Vanquished Creatures the royal jelly (Slime:6) 2 ancient liches (Vaults:5) Saint Roka (Swamp:5) Margery (Vaults:2) Norris (Vaults:2) A golden dragon (Vaults:5) A bone dragon (Vaults:5) 2 liches 2 tentacled monstrosities (Vaults:5) 19 acid blobs 5 sphinxes (Vaults:5) 3 thorn hunters Rupert (Swamp:5) Agnes (Swamp:4) Frances (Swamp:2) 3 shadow dragons (Vaults:5) Kirke (Swamp:5) 3 tengu reavers 11 azure jellies 5 fire giants An iron dragon (Vaults:5) 21 vault wardens Maud (Lair:4) 12 greater nagas (Snake:5) A frost giant (Vaults:5) Aizul (Snake:2) Louise (Swamp:5) 3 deep elf sorcerers An orc warlord (Orc:2) Gastronok (D:11) Jorgrun (Vaults:2) 7 stone giants 2 deep elf demonologists 2 war gargoyles (Vaults:5) A deep elf annihilator (Vaults:5) 7 ettins 2 crystal guardians 10 death oozes 4 fire dragons A minotaur (Lab) Josephine (D:11) 2 deep elf high priests (Vaults:5) 11 yaktaur captains 26 vault guards 11 ironheart preservers A ravenous feature mimic (Swamp:5) 6 great orbs of eyes 3 ice dragons 27 naga warriors 21 hydras 5 shambling mangroves 2 deep troll earth magi 2 anacondas 4 alligators 5 ogre magi A tengu warrior (D:15) A thrashing horror (Abyss:1) 11 shock serpents 19 naga sharpshooters 3 very ugly things (Vaults:4) 2 dancing weapons (Vaults:3) 9 centaur warriors 4 deep elf knights A fire crab (Vaults:4) 4 iron trolls 3 shadow wraiths 2 salamander mystics 3 unseen horrors A spriggan druid (Swamp:5) 8 deep trolls 4 hell knights (Vaults:2) A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 4 flayed ghosts A wizard (Vaults:1) 11 swamp dragons A deep elf summoner (Vaults:5) A shadow dragon zombie (Vaults:5) The ghost of Boregon the Skirmisher, an experienced HOFi (D:5) 7 naga ritualists Pikel (D:5) A giant orange brain (Vaults:4) 12 mana vipers A tengu zombie (Vaults:5) 4 hill giants 13 orc knights A wolf spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 5 necromancers 4 griffons 5 harpies (Vaults:2) 4 wolf spiders A fire giant zombie (Vaults:5) A stone giant zombie (Vaults:3) 18 ironbrand convokers A human zombie (Vaults:5) 2 cyclopes A phantasmal warrior (Vaults:4) 4 orc sorcerers A black mamba (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 15 salamanders 5 red wasps A frost giant skeleton (Vaults:5) A stone giant skeleton (Vaults:3) 3 shining eyes 3 gargoyles 6 guardian serpents 12 vault sentinels 28 naga magi 47 black mambas 19 spiny frogs 2 feature mimics 4 eyes of devastation 23 yaktaurs A yaktaur zombie (Vaults:3) 2 kobold demonologists A tengu conjurer (D:15) A queen bee (D:8) 2 freezing wraiths (Vaults:4) An efreet (D:15) A blue devil (D:14) 5 trolls 2 centaur skeletons 3 fire drakes 9 komodo dragons A tengu simulacrum (Vaults:3) 2 demonic crawlers (D:14) 2 komodo dragons (shapeshifter) 5 giant fireflies 7 deep elf priests A hellwing (Vaults:2) A trapdoor spider zombie (D:11) 6 boggarts 12 ravens 16 two-headed ogres 2 raiju (shapeshifter) 3 boulder beetles 8 giant leeches 56 slime creatures A blink frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) 29 brown oozes 18 bog bodies 4 basilisks A wraith (Vaults:1) 30 blink frogs A grizzly bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) 3 shadows A water elemental (D:13) 4 thorn lotuses 31 ugly things A grizzly bear (Lair:2) A tarantella (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 7 deep elf magi 5 spriggans An ettin skeleton (Vaults:5) 4 hungry ghosts (Lab) A yaktaur simulacrum (Vaults:5) The ghost of jimisdead the Covered, an average MiFi (D:3) A wyvern (Lair:4) 33 yaks Eustachio (D:5) A trapdoor spider (D:14) 20 golden eyes 3 elephant slugs 10 sharks A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 10 deep elf fighters 3 steam dragons (Lair:8) 13 hippogriffs 3 hogs (Swamp:5) 27 swamp worms 21 vampire mosquitoes Menkaure (D:7) 10 wolves 11 wargs 42 water moccasins 5 mottled dragons A black bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 11 porcupines 90 nagas 13 swamp drakes 4 slaves (D:5) 5 sky beasts An ogre skeleton (D:14) 4 spiders (Lair:8) 3 ice beasts A manticore zombie (D:11) 9 giant goldfish 6 yellow wasps 61 orc warriors 4 black bears 20 centaurs 8 phantoms 35 ogres 2 boring beetles Sigmund (D:7) 5 big kobolds 22 crocodiles 15 giant slugs A brain worm (D:15) 18 giant frogs 6 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:4) 7 eyes of draining 6 scorpions 23 killer bees A manticore simulacrum (D:15) 8 electric eels 24 wights 16 hounds 7 crimson imps 3 goliath beetles 10 pulsating lumps 2 centaur zombies A giant frog zombie (D:11) 4 human simulacra An iron imp (Slime:5) 3 quasits 16 big fish 12 jellies Crazy Yiuf (D:6) A kobold zombie (D:12) 34 orc wizards A soldier ant zombie (D:10) A black bear skeleton (D:9) 35 orc priests 12 iguanas 15 worker ants A killer bee zombie (D:5) 15 sheep An ogre zombie (D:5) A hound zombie (D:5) A hound skeleton (D:11) A worker ant zombie (D:7) 34 adders 4 gnolls (D:8) 42 green rats 2 orc zombies 3 giant mites 7 shadow imps A goliath beetle zombie (D:11) 5 worms An ufetubus (Slime:5) 8 giant eyeballs 12 oozes 172 orcs 24 bats 6 giant cockroaches 26 goblins 15 hobgoblins 22 jackals 21 kobolds 13 quokkas 3 ball pythons 5 giant geckos A giant gecko skeleton (D:6) 3 giant newts A giant newt skeleton (D:5) A jackal skeleton (D:5) 2 orc skeletons 32 rats A rat zombie (D:5) 2 ballistomycetes (D:6) A fungus (Lair:8) 6 plants 2220 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Mara (Vaults:2) Vashnia (Snake:2) 3 acid blobs (Slime:6) An azure jelly (Slime:6) 2 yaktaur captains A death ooze (Slime:6) A deep elf high priest (Vaults:5) A hydra (Swamp:5) A shock serpent (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 4 naga sharpshooters A swamp dragon (Swamp:5) An ironbrand convoker (Vaults:5) A naga (Snake:5) 19 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) Nikola (Snake:1) A stone giant (Slime:6) An ogre mage (Vaults:1) 2 iron trolls A red wasp (Vaults:1) 3 trolls 2 two-headed ogres 2 humans (Swamp:5) A crimson imp (Slime:5) A big fish (Swamp:1) A giant spore (D:6) An orc zombie (Vaults:2) A bush (Swamp:5) 7 fungi 10 plants 35 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 2274 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Blomdor, the Centaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1 291 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/26 MP: 2/2 734 | D:2 | Acquired Trog's second power 1036 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/31 MP: 3/3 1050 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades 1548 | D:3 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 1567 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 38/38 MP: 3/3 1582 | D:3 | Noticed jimisdead's ghost (average MiFi) 1593 | D:3 | Killed jimisdead's ghost 1593 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades 1593 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 45/45 MP: 4/4 1742 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades 2123 | D:4 | Found Qor Ulim's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2244 | D:4 | Found Smufulu's Distillery. 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of mutation for 30 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2292 | D:4 | Found Diplonin's Jewellery Boutique. 2383 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/51 MP: 5/5 2618 | D:4 | Found Kufanowe's Book Emporium. 2762 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Long Blades 2813 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 2823 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 57/57 MP: 5/5 2897 | D:5 | Found Yhemmin's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2959 | D:5 | Acquired Trog's third power 3013 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Long Blades 3066 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 23/63 MP: 6/6 3292 | D:5 | Got an encrusted long sword 3293 | D:5 | Identified the +7,+6 long sword "Xoihuf" {venom, Str+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 3550 | D:5 | Noticed Eustachio 3566 | D:5 | Killed Eustachio 3609 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades 3628 | D:5 | Noticed Boregon's ghost (experienced HOFi) 3647 | D:5 | Killed Boregon's ghost 3951 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Long Blades 3951 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 69/69 MP: 7/7 4076 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4126 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 4335 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 4673 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 4682 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 4931 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5195 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 5204 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 5349 | D:7 | Noticed Sigmund 5355 | D:7 | Killed Sigmund 5669 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Long Blades 5943 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 57/84 MP: 7/7 6037 | D:8 | Received a gift from Trog 6389 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 6765 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7404 | D:4 | Bought an uncursed ring of poison resistance for 260 gold pieces 7842 | Lair:1 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Long Blades 7933 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 36/97 MP: 8/8 8453 | Lair:1 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 8460 | Lair:1 | Killed a 11-headed hydra 8522 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 9070 | Lair:1 | Noticed a black mamba 9085 | Lair:1 | Killed a black mamba 10040 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog 11053 | Lair:2 | Got a bone spear 11054 | Lair:2 | Identified the +6,+3 spear "Sagrus" {flame, rN+ Dex-1 Int+3} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 11234 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Long Blades 11552 | Lair:2 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 3 turns 12019 | Lair:3 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 12036 | Lair:3 | Killed a ten-headed hydra 12036 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 91/106 MP: 9/9 12291 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 12293 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Trog 12346 | Lair:3 | Got a distressingly furry scale mail 12363 | Lair:3 | Identified the +1 scale mail of Shraoppol {rF++} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 13146 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Long Blades 13512 | Lair:4 | Noticed Maud 13523 | Lair:4 | Killed Maud 13809 | Lair:4 | Got a bloodstained quarterstaff 13810 | Lair:4 | Identified the cursed +2,+2 quarterstaff "Iczieg" {speed, rElec MR+ Dex+1} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts) 14340 | Lair:5 | Received a gift from Trog 14395 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 14742 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 16 in Long Blades 15292 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 15774 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 15794 | Lair:6 | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [pulsating lump's mutagenic touch] 15795 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 107/113 MP: 9/9 16856 | Lair:7 | Received a gift from Trog 16919 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 17 in Long Blades 17851 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 17940 | Lair:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 18494 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 18809 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 18 in Long Blades 19312 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 19975 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 110/121 MP: 10/10 21375 | D:9 | Received a gift from Trog 21573 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21573 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 21825 | D:10 | Reached skill level 19 in Long Blades 21873 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 21976 | Orc:1 | Found Frovied's General Store. 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought 2 scrolls of blinking for 210 gold pieces 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 105 gold pieces 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 105 gold pieces 22191 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord 22214 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 22258 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog 22917 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 22968 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 24534 | Orc:4 | Found Chuikoti's Antique Weapon Shop. 24534 | Orc:4 | Found Jiupn's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 24548 | Orc:4 | Found Shronim's Food Boutique. 24727 | Orc:4 | Found Petukhlar's Armour Emporium. 24741 | Orc:4 | Bought a +4 plate armour of fire resistance for 500 gold pieces 24763 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 135 gold pieces 24763 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 99 gold pieces 24851 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 24974 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 25064 | Orc:4 | Found Eguint's Book Emporium. 25548 | Orc:2 | Found Deneshal's Armour Emporium. 25673 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog 26285 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of acquirement for 936 gold pieces 26898 | D:11 | Noticed Gastronok 26911 | D:11 | Killed Gastronok 26976 | D:11 | Noticed Josephine 26982 | D:11 | Killed Josephine 27736 | D:12 | Found a flagged portal. 27748 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 27988 | Bailey | Received a gift from Trog 28650 | D:13 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 28665 | D:13 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 28900 | D:13 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 126/126 MP: 11/11 28923 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 29853 | Lab | Got an ancient cloak 29888 | D:13 | Identified the +1 cloak of the Harvest {rPois} (You found it in a labyrinth) 30693 | D:14 | Received a gift from Trog 30956 | D:14 | Reached skill level 20 in Long Blades 31453 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 31696 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 31720 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths. 32682 | D:15 | Noticed a tengu reaver 32697 | D:15 | Killed a tengu reaver 33686 | D:15 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 34223 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.14.0-2-gd2dacb9 to 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff 34349 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit 34424 | Snake:1 | Got a vibrating golden ring 34809 | Snake:1 | Received a gift from Trog 35020 | Snake:1 | Noticed Nikola 35031 | Snake:1 | Killed Nikola 35516 | Snake:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 36184 | Snake:2 | Noticed Aizul 36206 | Snake:2 | Killed Aizul 36206 | Snake:2 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 134/134 MP: 8/11 36620 | Snake:2 | Noticed Vashnia 37164 | Snake:2 | Killed Vashnia 38243 | Snake:3 | Received a gift from Trog 38243 | Snake:3 | Reached skill level 21 in Long Blades 38251 | Snake:3 | Got a jewelled dire flail {god gift} 38792 | Snake:3 | Got a faintly glowing cloak 38796 | Snake:3 | Identified the +0 cloak of the Trilobite {Dex+2 Stlth--} (You acquired it on level 3 of the Snake Pit) 38804 | Snake:3 | Identified the ring "Utzyrph" {Hunger Dex+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit) 39690 | Snake:4 | Received a gift from Trog 40756 | Snake:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit 41296 | Snake:5 | Got a distressingly furry plate armour 41297 | Snake:5 | Identified the +10 plate armour of Darkness {Int+2 Stlth-} (You found it on level 5 of the Snake Pit) 42521 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 42561 | Swamp:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 140/140 MP: 12/12 42704 | Swamp:1 | Received a gift from Trog 42712 | Swamp:1 | Got a jewelled glaive {god gift} 43121 | Swamp:2 | Noticed Frances 43245 | Swamp:2 | Killed Frances 43327 | Swamp:2 | Lost mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [potion of cure mutation] 44073 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Long Blades 44393 | Swamp:3 | Got a fine sling 44501 | Swamp:3 | Received a gift from Trog 44904 | Swamp:4 | Identified the +8,+8 sling of Grace {velocity, rF+ rN+} (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp) 44904 | Swamp:4 | Identified the +1,+4 dire flail of Cluarphea {speed, rF- rC++ MR+ Dex+2} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Snake Pit) 44904 | Swamp:4 | Identified the +9,+4 glaive of the Crawling Thing {freeze, rElec MR+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 1 of the Swamp) 45317 | Swamp:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp 45742 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Kirke 45752 | Swamp:5 | Killed Kirke 46072 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Rupert 46077 | Swamp:5 | Paralysed by Rupert for 7 turns 46107 | Swamp:5 | Killed Rupert 46268 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Louise 46271 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Agnes 46275 | Swamp:5 | Cast into the Abyss (Louise) 46275 | Abyss:1 | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu. 46340 | Swamp:5 | Escaped the Abyss 46712 | D:4 | Bought the ring of Lemaum {Hunger- rElec MR++} for 518 gold pieces 46970 | Orc:4 | Bought the +4 robe of Night {+Inv MR+ SInv Stlth+} for 445 gold pieces 47400 | Swamp:4 | Killed Agnes 47663 | Swamp:5 | Killed Louise 47809 | Swamp:5 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 136/148 MP: 13/13 48116 | Swamp:5 | Received a gift from Trog 48154 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Saint Roka 48374 | Swamp:5 | Killed Saint Roka 48625 | Swamp:5 | Noticed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra 48739 | Swamp:5 | Got a decaying rune of Zot 49247 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 50355 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog 51664 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 23 in Long Blades 51914 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Norris 51929 | Vaults:2 | Killed Norris 51979 | Vaults:2 | Got a jewelled great sword 51980 | Vaults:2 | Identified the +4,+10 great sword of Dried Tears {antimagic, Dex+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Vaults) 52195 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Jorgrun 52207 | Vaults:2 | Killed Jorgrun 52318 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Margery 52516 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Mara 52520 | Vaults:2 | Killed Mara 52617 | Vaults:2 | Killed Margery 52789 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog 53562 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 141/159 MP: 13/13 53786 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog 55011 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog 55100 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt. 55100 | Vaults:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 55101 | Vaults:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 55285 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades. 56262 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog 56494 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 24 in Long Blades 56882 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults 57375 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog 57381 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 174/174 MP: 14/14 57713 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). [potion of beneficial mutation] 57762 | Vaults:5 | Noticed an ancient lich 57908 | Vaults:5 | Killed an ancient lich 57908 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting 58032 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog 58101 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour 58134 | Vaults:5 | Noticed an ancient lich 58147 | Vaults:5 | Killed an ancient lich 58652 | Vaults:5 | HP: 4/180 [vault sentinel/ bolt (20)] 58661 | Vaults:5 | HP: 5/180 [vault sentinel/ bolt (19)] 58922 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [a cacodemon] 58929 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [a cacodemon] 58932 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). [a cacodemon] 59447 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a bone dragon 59615 | Vaults:5 | Killed a bone dragon 59615 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 150/189 MP: 16/16 59732 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot 60050 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog 60195 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a golden dragon 60211 | Vaults:5 | Killed a golden dragon 60278 | Vaults:5 | Got a polished halberd 60279 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -2,+3 halberd of Righteous Anger {slay drac, -Tele rF+ rC+ rN+ Int+2} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60319 | Vaults:5 | Got a shimmering helmet 60320 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -5 helmet of Trial and Error {Dex+1 Acc+6} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60346 | Vaults:5 | Got a faintly glowing chain mail 60347 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed +0 chain mail of Boredom {rF+ rC+} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60656 | Vaults:5 | Got a steaming helmet 60669 | Vaults:5 | Got a shimmering leather armour 60670 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -5 helmet of Boredom {Dex-2 Dam+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60670 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +3 leather armour "Sotienol" {Str+1 Int+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60766 | Vaults:5 | Found Qoas' Jewellery Shoppe. 60790 | Vaults:5 | Bought the ring of Psimul {+Blink +Rage +Fly MR++} for 694 gold pieces 61977 | Snake:5 | Received a gift from Trog 62182 | Snake:5 | Got a serpentine rune of Zot 62511 | Snake:5 | Received a gift from Trog 63807 | Vaults:5 | Bought an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion for 320 gold pieces 64392 | Slime:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime 64397 | Slime:1 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 64574 | Slime:1 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 64681 | Slime:2 | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [a shining eye] 64683 | Slime:2 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 64687 | Slime:2 | Gained mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [a shining eye] 64710 | Slime:2 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 64722 | Slime:2 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 64766 | Slime:2 | Received a gift from Trog 64769 | Slime:2 | Got a brightly glowing long sword {god gift} 64770 | Slime:2 | Identified the +10,+5 long sword of Conflict {flame, rF- rC+ Dex-4 Stlth} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Pits of Slime) 65186 | Slime:2 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 173/202 MP: 16/16 65265 | Slime:3 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 65441 | Slime:3 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 65653 | Slime:3 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 66115 | Slime:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Pits of Slime 66152 | Slime:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 66490 | Slime:6 | Received a gift from Trog 66494 | Slime:6 | Noticed the royal jelly 66496 | Slime:6 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 67533 | Slime:6 | Killed the royal jelly 67574 | Slime:6 | Gained mutation: You are very clumsy. (Dex -4) [a shining eye] 68686 | Slime:6 | Got a slimy rune of Zot 68692 | Slime:6 | Got a fine silver amulet 68693 | Slime:6 | Identified the amulet "Psoh Opru" {Ward rPois Dex+2 Acc+3} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime) 68741 | Slime:6 | Got a brightly glowing lead amulet 68831 | Slime:6 | Got a jewelled leather armour 69166 | Lair:1 | Identified the cursed +1 leather armour "Kuzuvaom" {Str-3 Int-3} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime) 69196 | Lair:1 | Identified the amulet "Twepeduj" {Gourm rF+} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime) Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Falchion | 86 | 114 | 59 | | | | | || 259 Long sword | | | 134 | | | | | || 134 Great sword | | | 78 | 275 | 3 | | | || 356 Claymore | | | | 476 | 2008 | 1831 | 1660 | 416 || 6391 Invok: Berserk | | 3 | 4 | 6 | 12 | 7 | 1 | 1 || 34 Burn Spellbooks | | | | 3 | 9 | 4 | 6 | 1 || 23 Trog's Hand | | | | | 1 | | 1 | || 2 Brothers in Arms | | | | | | 7 | 4 | 6 || 17 Evoke: Wand | 1 | | 3 | 6 | 18 | 3 | 2 | 4 || 37 Lamp of fire | | | | | | 1 | | || 1 Stone of tremors | | | | | | 1 | | || 1 Use: Potion | 2 | 3 | 2 | 9 | 12 | 5 | 3 | 2 || 38 Scroll | 7 | 4 | 3 | 20 | 25 | 24 | 15 | 5 || 103 Stab: Fleeing | | | | 1 | | | | || 1 Paralysed | | | | 1 | | | | || 1 Invisible | | | | | 1 | | | || 1 Confused | | | | | | 2 | | || 2 Distracted | | | | | | 1 | | || 1

TRJ was sitting on a massive horde of nice loot. At the very least, I have more consumables, evocables, and a better amulet. There was an artefact gourmand/rF+ amulet in there, too, but I figured this one was better for general use.

I'm torn between checking out other post-endgame branches that I've never been in once I've cleared out the main dungeon, and just trying to win the game from here. The former might (probably would) get me killed, but it would be fun anyway.

Saturday, 12th April 2014, 02:45 by Eyesburn

Blomdor wrote:and ten max HP from the damn death oozes (how ARE you supposed to avoid that?)

Rot resistance aka rRot;
if you get Rot status then heal it with potions of curing and recover your missing HP, 1 potion will cure 1 HP (guess potions of heal wounds works too, tho never tried those).

Saturday, 12th April 2014, 04:57 by Blomdor

Much fun, I have had. Many silly things have I done.

Went to the Hall of Blades. Never been there before, might as well check it out.

Then, because I'm not at all afraid of losing this guy (waiting, in fact, to be able to participate in the tournament, so I need to either win or get him killed soon), I decided "Hey...let's do Crypt! Yeah! Great idea!"

Not Tomb. I know better than that.

The Crypt was fine and dandy for four and three quarters of a level. Trog didn't like it very much, because I was lucky enough not to encounter many spellcasters. Other than that, nothing special. I killed stuff, took loot, wondered if I should get out and just win aready...

And then I met Khufu. Let me tell you about Khufu. He is mean. He is extremely difficult to kill. He seems to have an obsession with guarding a +0 cloak of poison resistance. And he cheats his a- I mean perfectly legitimately halves one's HP in a single turn with no effort. He also likes to party with other mummies, who think he is a real cool dude and want to be just like him.

Somehow, some way, I killed Khufu. This is not something I ever thought I would actually be able to do. I've only read about him until now. It was an absolutely brutal fight, and I almost died running away when I first saw him. I just did my usual preparation when I opened the door to his mummy love shack; I had NO idea I would be up against THAT. I was just expecting a couple of ancient liches or something.

I don't know if I should be proud of my achievements or ashamed of my stupidity. Perhaps both.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff (webtiles) character file. Blomdor the Centaur Blade (Centaur Berserker) Turns: 88657, Time: 09:18:25 HP 200/200 (226) AC 43 Str 27 XL: 24 Next: 88% MP 41/41 EV 2 Int 6 God: Trog [*****.] Gold 4633 SH 0 Dex 8 Spells: 0 memorised, 23 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + O - +9 claymore (vamp) rCold . . . Clarity + h - +2 crystal plate armour rNeg + . . Conserve . (no shield) rPois . rCorr . Q - +1 helmet {SInv} rElec + rRot . e - +2 cloak {+Inv} SustAb . . Spirit . G - +0 pair of gloves of Pantheism {+Inv +Fly rElec} rMut . Warding . k - +4 centaur barding {Fly} Saprov . . . Stasis . x - amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ MR+++} MR +++++ M - +6,+6 ring of slaying r - ring of Psimul {+Blink +Rage +Fly MR++} @: flying, very quick, almost entirely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: hooves 3, molten scales 1, berserk 1, clumsy 2, deformed body, herbivore 1, speed 2, fast metabolism 1, high mp 1, mutation resistance 1, tough skin 3, weak 1 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink, Evoke Berserk Rage, Evoke Invisibility, Stop Flying }: 4/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver You are on level 15 of the Dungeon. You worship Trog. Trog is extremely pleased with you. You are very hungry. You have visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and seen 58 of its levels. You have visited the Abyss 1 time. You have also visited: Labyrinth, Trove, Bailey and Wizlab. You have collected 9362 gold pieces. You have spent 4729 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons o - the +15,+15 crossbow "Sniper" {velocity, SInv} (You took it off a skeletal warrior on level 4 of the Crypt) Any bolt fired from it inflicts extra damage. It enhances your eyesight. O - a +9,+9 vampiric claymore (weapon) Armour e - a +2 cloak of darkness (worn) h - a +2 crystal plate armour (worn) j - a +0 cloak of poison resistance k - a +4 centaur barding of flying (worn) G - the +0 pair of gloves of Pantheism (worn) {+Inv +Fly rElec} (You found it on level 2 of the Crypt) It insulates you from electricity. It lets you turn invisible. It lets you fly. Q - a +1 helmet of see invisible (worn) Magical devices n - a wand of teleportation p - a wand of digging {zapped: 4} U - a wand of digging Comestibles c - 20 bread rations f - a royal jelly u - an apricot D - a pear Scrolls a - 9 scrolls of remove curse g - 2 scrolls of teleportation l - a scroll of fog H - a scroll of holy word K - a scroll of enchant armour P - a scroll of identify V - 2 scrolls of silence Jewellery i - the cursed ring of Lemaum {Hunger- rElec MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon) [ring of sustenance] It insulates you from electricity. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It has a curse placed upon it. q - an uncursed amulet of conservation r - the ring of Psimul (left hand) {+Blink +Rage +Fly MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Vaults) [ring of flight] It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It lets you blink. It lets you go berserk. w - a cursed amulet of clarity x - the amulet of the Four Winds (around neck) {Clar rN+ MR+++} (You found it in a treasure trove) [amulet of clarity] It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. E - a cursed amulet of resist mutation M - a +6,+6 ring of slaying (right hand) R - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation X - an uncursed ring of teleport control Potions d - a potion of brilliance s - a potion of resistance A - 2 potions of might B - 3 potions of agility I - 3 potions of haste N - a potion of berserk rage Miscellaneous b - a lamp of fire m - a sack of spiders t - a fan of gales v - a stone of tremors y - a lamp of fire z - a sack of spiders C - a lamp of fire L - a stone of tremors S - a phial of floods Y - a fan of gales Rods F - a cursed +8 rod of striking (13/13) (You took it off a deep elf high priest on level 3 of the Elven Halls) J - a thick smoking rod (You found it on level 5 of the Crypt) Skills: + Level 20.9 Fighting - Level 24.0 Long Blades - Level 17.6 Armour - Level 1.3 Dodging - Level 17.0 Evocations You have 23 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:6 Orc (4/4) D:10 Elf (3/3) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:8 Swamp (5/5) Lair:5 Snake (5/5) Lair:5 Slime (6/6) Lair:6 Vaults (5/5) D:14 Blade (1/1) Vaults:3 Crypt (5/5) Vaults:3 Tomb (0/3) Crypt:2 Depths (1/5) D:15 Altars: Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Yredelemnul Jiyva Shops: D:4 !(=: D:5 ( Orc:1 * Orc:2 [ Orc:4 %(?[: Elf:3 * Vaults:5 = Portals: Hell: Depths:1 Pandemonium: Depths:1 Ziggurat: Depths:1 Annotations: Swamp:5 Lernaean hydra Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have hooves in place of feet. Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. You digest meat inefficiently. You cover ground very quickly. You have a fast metabolism. You have extremely tough skin (AC +3). You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). You tend to lose your temper in combat. You are very clumsy. (Dex -4) You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You are weak. (Str -2) Message History The deep troll shaman calls upon its god to strengthen the deep troll shaman. The deep troll shaman seems to grow stronger. You see here a large rock. Some rock shatters into small pieces. There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here. Things that are here: a bolt; 3 large rocks You fly upwards. Welcome back to the Dungeon! There is a staircase to the Depths here. You start resting. You are feeling hungry. You start resting. You start resting. You are feeling very hungry. You start resting. HP restored. Save game and exit? Welcome back, Blomdor the Centaur Berserker. Trog says: Kill them all! 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Vanquished Creatures the royal jelly (Slime:6) Khufu (Crypt:5) 2 ancient liches (Vaults:5) Saint Roka (Swamp:5) Margery (Vaults:2) Norris (Vaults:2) A golden dragon (Vaults:5) 3 bone dragons A profane servitor (Crypt:5) A Hell Sentinel (Elf:3) 3 liches Asterion (Elf:1) 2 tentacled monstrosities (Vaults:5) A deep elf master archer (Elf:3) 19 acid blobs 5 sphinxes (Vaults:5) 3 thorn hunters Rupert (Swamp:5) Agnes (Swamp:4) Frances (Swamp:2) 3 shadow dragons (Vaults:5) Kirke (Swamp:5) 6 ancient champions 4 draconian monks (WizLab) 3 tengu reavers 3 revenants 11 azure jellies 6 fire giants Wiglaf (Blade) An iron dragon (Vaults:5) 21 vault wardens Maud (Lair:4) 7 ghouls 12 greater nagas (Snake:5) 2 frost giants Aizul (Snake:2) Louise (Swamp:5) 8 deep elf sorcerers An orc warlord (Orc:2) Gastronok (D:11) 2 rakshasas (Depths:1) Jorgrun (Vaults:2) 10 stone giants 8 deep elf demonologists 2 war gargoyles (Vaults:5) 8 deep elf annihilators 2 curse skulls 7 ettins 2 unborn (Crypt:5) 2 crystal guardians 8 deep elf death magi 2 mummy priests (Crypt:5) 2 eidola 10 death oozes 4 fire dragons 3 minotaurs 18 jiangshi Josephine (D:11) 7 deep elf high priests 11 yaktaur captains 26 vault guards 11 ironheart preservers 5 ravenous feature mimics A death cob (Crypt:5) 6 great orbs of eyes 4 ice dragons 27 naga warriors 2 monstrous demonspawn (WizLab) 21 hydras 5 shambling mangroves 2 deep troll earth magi 2 anacondas A spectral fire giant (Crypt:5) 4 alligators 5 ogre magi 6 deep dwarf death knights An orc high priest (Elf:2) A tengu warrior (D:15) A thrashing horror (Abyss:1) 2 soul eaters 11 shock serpents 19 naga sharpshooters 6 spriggan berserkers (Depths:1) 5 very ugly things 3 vampire magi 5 plague shamblers 22 dancing weapons 9 centaur warriors 15 deep elf knights A fire crab (Vaults:4) 7 iron trolls 10 shadow wraiths 2 salamander mystics 3 unseen horrors 2 anaconda zombies (Crypt:3) 64 skeletal warriors A spriggan druid (Swamp:5) A large abomination (Crypt:5) A spectral anaconda (Crypt:3) 11 deep trolls A golden dragon zombie (Crypt:3) 4 hell knights (Vaults:2) A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 10 flayed ghosts A wizard (Vaults:1) 11 swamp dragons 11 deep elf summoners A shadow dragon zombie (Vaults:5) The ghost of Boregon the Skirmisher, an experienced HOFi (D:5) 7 naga ritualists Pikel (D:5) A giant orange brain (Vaults:4) 7 deep elf conjurers 12 mana vipers A sphinx zombie (Crypt:2) 2 tengu zombies 6 hill giants 5 flaming corpses 13 orc knights A wolf spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 9 necromancers A frost giant zombie (Crypt:2) 4 griffons 5 harpies (Vaults:2) A spectral fire dragon (Crypt:3) 3 small abominations A shadow dragon skeleton (Crypt:1) 4 wolf spiders 3 fire giant zombies 2 stone giant zombies 18 ironbrand convokers 5 human zombies 2 cyclopes 6 phantasmal warriors 5 orc sorcerers A black mamba (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) A fire giant skeleton (Crypt:1) 15 salamanders 5 red wasps 2 frost giant skeletons 2 stone giant skeletons 3 shining eyes 3 gargoyles 6 guardian serpents 12 vault sentinels 5 spectral elves A shock serpent skeleton (Crypt:3) A shock serpent zombie (Crypt:1) 28 naga magi 47 black mambas 19 spiny frogs An alligator snapping turtle zombie (Crypt:4) 3 feature mimics 4 eyes of devastation 28 yaktaurs An elephant slug zombie (Crypt:2) A yaktaur zombie (Vaults:3) 2 kobold demonologists A tengu conjurer (D:15) A black draconian skeleton (Crypt:2) A queen bee (D:8) A spectral deep dwarf (Crypt:5) 13 freezing wraiths An efreet (D:15) A blue devil (D:14) 5 trolls 2 centaur skeletons 3 fire drakes 9 komodo dragons A tengu simulacrum (Vaults:3) 4 demonic crawlers 10 guardian mummies 2 komodo dragons (shapeshifter) 5 giant fireflies A yellow draconian skeleton (Crypt:2) 14 deep elf priests A hellwing (Vaults:2) A red draconian skeleton (Crypt:2) A jumping spider (Elf:1) A white draconian skeleton (Crypt:4) A polar bear (Depths:1) A pale draconian skeleton (Crypt:2) A trapdoor spider zombie (D:11) 6 boggarts 2 silent spectres 12 ravens An iron devil (Depths:1) 16 two-headed ogres 2 raiju (shapeshifter) 3 boulder beetles 8 giant leeches 56 slime creatures A blink frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) A fire giant simulacrum (Crypt:1) 29 brown oozes A griffon skeleton (Crypt:1) 18 bog bodies 4 basilisks 8 wraiths A fire dragon zombie (Crypt:4) 30 blink frogs 90 flying skulls A grizzly bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) 13 shadows A water elemental (D:13) 5 redbacks 4 thorn lotuses 35 ugly things 6 vampires A grizzly bear (Lair:2) A tarantella (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 27 deep elf magi A black mamba skeleton (Crypt:5) A fire dragon skeleton (Crypt:2) 5 spriggans 2 tarantellas (Elf:1) An ettin skeleton (Vaults:5) 7 hungry ghosts A yaktaur simulacrum (Vaults:5) The ghost of jimisdead the Covered, an average MiFi (D:3) A wyvern (Lair:4) 33 yaks Eustachio (D:5) A trapdoor spider (D:14) 20 golden eyes 3 elephant slugs 10 sharks A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 33 deep elf fighters 3 steam dragons (Lair:8) 13 hippogriffs 3 hogs (Swamp:5) 27 swamp worms 21 vampire mosquitoes Menkaure (D:7) 6 necrophages 10 wolves A catoblepas simulacrum (Crypt:5) 12 wargs A gelid demonspawn skeleton (Crypt:1) A naga (shapeshifter) (Depths:1) 42 water moccasins 5 mottled dragons A black bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) A torturous demonspawn skeleton (Crypt:2) A merfolk skeleton (Crypt:3) A water nymph skeleton (Crypt:1) 11 porcupines 90 nagas 13 swamp drakes 4 slaves (D:5) 5 sky beasts An ogre skeleton (D:14) 4 spiders (Lair:8) A black mamba simulacrum (Crypt:2) A baby alligator skeleton (Crypt:2) 5 ice beasts A manticore zombie (D:11) 9 giant goldfish 6 yellow wasps 63 orc warriors 4 black bears An alligator simulacrum (Crypt:5) 20 centaurs 8 phantoms 35 ogres A snapping turtle zombie (Crypt:1) 2 snapping turtle skeletons (Crypt:2) 2 boring beetles Sigmund (D:7) 5 big kobolds 22 crocodiles 15 giant slugs A blink frog skeleton (Crypt:4) A brain worm (D:15) 18 giant frogs 6 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:4) 7 eyes of draining A shapeshifter zombie (Crypt:1) A cyclops skeleton (Crypt:1) 6 scorpions A spectral naga (Crypt:3) 23 killer bees A manticore simulacrum (D:15) 8 electric eels 27 wights A troll skeleton (Crypt:3) A raiju skeleton (Crypt:2) 16 hounds 7 crimson imps 3 goliath beetles 10 pulsating lumps A wolf skeleton (Crypt:4) 2 centaur zombies A giant frog zombie (D:11) 4 human simulacra 5 iron imps 3 quasits 16 big fish A yellow wasp zombie (Crypt:3) 12 jellies Crazy Yiuf (D:6) A kobold zombie (D:12) 35 orc wizards A soldier ant zombie (D:10) 2 human skeletons (Crypt:1) A black bear skeleton (D:9) 35 orc priests 12 iguanas 8 orange rats 15 worker ants A killer bee zombie (D:5) 2 naga zombies (Crypt:3) 15 sheep An ogre zombie (D:5) A mottled dragon zombie (Crypt:3) A hound zombie (D:5) 14 mummies A hound skeleton (D:11) A swamp drake zombie (Crypt:1) A worker ant zombie (D:7) 34 adders 4 gnolls (D:8) 42 green rats 2 orc zombies A worm zombie (Crypt:4) 3 giant mites 7 shadow imps A goliath beetle zombie (D:11) 5 worms An ufetubus (Slime:5) A lava snake skeleton (Crypt:1) An adder zombie (Crypt:1) A sheep skeleton (Crypt:2) 8 giant eyeballs 12 oozes 177 orcs 24 bats 6 giant cockroaches 26 goblins 15 hobgoblins 22 jackals 21 kobolds 13 quokkas 3 ball pythons 5 giant geckos A giant gecko skeleton (D:6) 3 giant newts A giant newt skeleton (D:5) A goblin skeleton (Crypt:4) 2 green rat skeletons A jackal skeleton (D:5) 2 orc skeletons 32 rats A rat zombie (D:5) 2 ballistomycetes (D:6) 2 fungi 6 plants 2831 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Mara (Vaults:2) Vashnia (Snake:2) 3 acid blobs (Slime:6) An azure jelly (Slime:6) 2 yaktaur captains A death ooze (Slime:6) A deep elf high priest (Vaults:5) A hydra (Swamp:5) A shock serpent (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 4 naga sharpshooters A swamp dragon (Swamp:5) An ironbrand convoker (Vaults:5) A naga (Snake:5) 19 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) Nikola (Snake:1) A stone giant (Slime:6) A deep elf high priest (Elf:3) An ogre mage (Vaults:1) 2 iron trolls A deep troll (Elf:1) A red wasp (Vaults:1) 3 trolls 2 two-headed ogres 2 humans (Swamp:5) 11 lost souls A crimson imp (Slime:5) A big fish (Swamp:1) A giant spore (D:6) An orc zombie (Vaults:2) A bush (Swamp:5) 7 fungi 10 plants 48 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 2898 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Blomdor, the Centaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1 291 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/26 MP: 2/2 734 | D:2 | Acquired Trog's second power 1036 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/31 MP: 3/3 1050 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades 1548 | D:3 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 1567 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 38/38 MP: 3/3 1582 | D:3 | Noticed jimisdead's ghost (average MiFi) 1593 | D:3 | Killed jimisdead's ghost 1593 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades 1593 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 45/45 MP: 4/4 1742 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades 2123 | D:4 | Found Qor Ulim's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2244 | D:4 | Found Smufulu's Distillery. 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of mutation for 30 gold pieces 2252 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 2292 | D:4 | Found Diplonin's Jewellery Boutique. 2383 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/51 MP: 5/5 2618 | D:4 | Found Kufanowe's Book Emporium. 2762 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2769 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Long Blades 2813 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 2823 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 57/57 MP: 5/5 2897 | D:5 | Found Yhemmin's Antique Weapon Emporium. 2959 | D:5 | Acquired Trog's third power 3013 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 3066 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Long Blades 3066 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 23/63 MP: 6/6 3292 | D:5 | Got an encrusted long sword 3293 | D:5 | Identified the +7,+6 long sword "Xoihuf" {venom, Str+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 3550 | D:5 | Noticed Eustachio 3566 | D:5 | Killed Eustachio 3609 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades 3628 | D:5 | Noticed Boregon's ghost (experienced HOFi) 3647 | D:5 | Killed Boregon's ghost 3951 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Long Blades 3951 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 69/69 MP: 7/7 4076 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4126 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 4335 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 4673 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 4682 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 4931 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5195 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 5204 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 5349 | D:7 | Noticed Sigmund 5355 | D:7 | Killed Sigmund 5669 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Long Blades 5943 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 57/84 MP: 7/7 6037 | D:8 | Received a gift from Trog 6389 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 6765 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7404 | D:4 | Bought an uncursed ring of poison resistance for 260 gold pieces 7842 | Lair:1 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 7846 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Long Blades 7933 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 36/97 MP: 8/8 8453 | Lair:1 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 8460 | Lair:1 | Killed a 11-headed hydra 8522 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 9070 | Lair:1 | Noticed a black mamba 9085 | Lair:1 | Killed a black mamba 10040 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog 11053 | Lair:2 | Got a bone spear 11054 | Lair:2 | Identified the +6,+3 spear "Sagrus" {flame, rN+ Dex-1 Int+3} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 11234 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Long Blades 11552 | Lair:2 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 3 turns 12019 | Lair:3 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 12036 | Lair:3 | Killed a ten-headed hydra 12036 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 91/106 MP: 9/9 12291 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 12293 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Trog 12346 | Lair:3 | Got a distressingly furry scale mail 12363 | Lair:3 | Identified the +1 scale mail of Shraoppol {rF++} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 13146 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Long Blades 13512 | Lair:4 | Noticed Maud 13523 | Lair:4 | Killed Maud 13809 | Lair:4 | Got a bloodstained quarterstaff 13810 | Lair:4 | Identified the cursed +2,+2 quarterstaff "Iczieg" {speed, rElec MR+ Dex+1} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts) 14340 | Lair:5 | Received a gift from Trog 14395 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 14742 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 16 in Long Blades 15292 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 15774 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 15794 | Lair:6 | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [pulsating lump's mutagenic touch] 15795 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 107/113 MP: 9/9 16856 | Lair:7 | Received a gift from Trog 16919 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 17 in Long Blades 17851 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 17940 | Lair:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 18494 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 18809 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 18 in Long Blades 19312 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 19975 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 110/121 MP: 10/10 21375 | D:9 | Received a gift from Trog 21573 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21573 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 21825 | D:10 | Reached skill level 19 in Long Blades 21873 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 21976 | Orc:1 | Found Frovied's General Store. 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought 2 scrolls of blinking for 210 gold pieces 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 105 gold pieces 22048 | Orc:1 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 105 gold pieces 22191 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord 22214 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 22258 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog 22917 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 22968 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 24534 | Orc:4 | Found Chuikoti's Antique Weapon Shop. 24534 | Orc:4 | Found Jiupn's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 24548 | Orc:4 | Found Shronim's Food Boutique. 24727 | Orc:4 | Found Petukhlar's Armour Emporium. 24741 | Orc:4 | Bought a +4 plate armour of fire resistance for 500 gold pieces 24763 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 135 gold pieces 24763 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 99 gold pieces 24851 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 24974 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 25064 | Orc:4 | Found Eguint's Book Emporium. 25548 | Orc:2 | Found Deneshal's Armour Emporium. 25673 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog 26285 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of acquirement for 936 gold pieces 26898 | D:11 | Noticed Gastronok 26911 | D:11 | Killed Gastronok 26976 | D:11 | Noticed Josephine 26982 | D:11 | Killed Josephine 27736 | D:12 | Found a flagged portal. 27748 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 27988 | Bailey | Received a gift from Trog 28650 | D:13 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 28665 | D:13 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 28900 | D:13 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 126/126 MP: 11/11 28923 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 29853 | Lab | Got an ancient cloak 29888 | D:13 | Identified the +1 cloak of the Harvest {rPois} (You found it in a labyrinth) 30693 | D:14 | Received a gift from Trog 30956 | D:14 | Reached skill level 20 in Long Blades 31453 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 31696 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 31720 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths. 32682 | D:15 | Noticed a tengu reaver 32697 | D:15 | Killed a tengu reaver 33686 | D:15 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 34223 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.14.0-2-gd2dacb9 to 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff 34349 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit 34424 | Snake:1 | Got a vibrating golden ring 34809 | Snake:1 | Received a gift from Trog 35020 | Snake:1 | Noticed Nikola 35031 | Snake:1 | Killed Nikola 35516 | Snake:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 36184 | Snake:2 | Noticed Aizul 36206 | Snake:2 | Killed Aizul 36206 | Snake:2 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 134/134 MP: 8/11 36620 | Snake:2 | Noticed Vashnia 37164 | Snake:2 | Killed Vashnia 38243 | Snake:3 | Received a gift from Trog 38243 | Snake:3 | Reached skill level 21 in Long Blades 38251 | Snake:3 | Got a jewelled dire flail {god gift} 38792 | Snake:3 | Got a faintly glowing cloak 38796 | Snake:3 | Identified the +0 cloak of the Trilobite {Dex+2 Stlth--} (You acquired it on level 3 of the Snake Pit) 38804 | Snake:3 | Identified the ring "Utzyrph" {Hunger Dex+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit) 39690 | Snake:4 | Received a gift from Trog 40756 | Snake:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit 41296 | Snake:5 | Got a distressingly furry plate armour 41297 | Snake:5 | Identified the +10 plate armour of Darkness {Int+2 Stlth-} (You found it on level 5 of the Snake Pit) 42521 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 42561 | Swamp:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 140/140 MP: 12/12 42704 | Swamp:1 | Received a gift from Trog 42712 | Swamp:1 | Got a jewelled glaive {god gift} 43121 | Swamp:2 | Noticed Frances 43245 | Swamp:2 | Killed Frances 43327 | Swamp:2 | Lost mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [potion of cure mutation] 44073 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Long Blades 44393 | Swamp:3 | Got a fine sling 44501 | Swamp:3 | Received a gift from Trog 44904 | Swamp:4 | Identified the +8,+8 sling of Grace {velocity, rF+ rN+} (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp) 44904 | Swamp:4 | Identified the +1,+4 dire flail of Cluarphea {speed, rF- rC++ MR+ Dex+2} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Snake Pit) 44904 | Swamp:4 | Identified the +9,+4 glaive of the Crawling Thing {freeze, rElec MR+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 1 of the Swamp) 45317 | Swamp:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp 45742 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Kirke 45752 | Swamp:5 | Killed Kirke 46072 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Rupert 46077 | Swamp:5 | Paralysed by Rupert for 7 turns 46107 | Swamp:5 | Killed Rupert 46268 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Louise 46271 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Agnes 46275 | Swamp:5 | Cast into the Abyss (Louise) 46275 | Abyss:1 | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu. 46340 | Swamp:5 | Escaped the Abyss 46712 | D:4 | Bought the ring of Lemaum {Hunger- rElec MR++} for 518 gold pieces 46970 | Orc:4 | Bought the +4 robe of Night {+Inv MR+ SInv Stlth+} for 445 gold pieces 47400 | Swamp:4 | Killed Agnes 47663 | Swamp:5 | Killed Louise 47809 | Swamp:5 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 136/148 MP: 13/13 48116 | Swamp:5 | Received a gift from Trog 48154 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Saint Roka 48374 | Swamp:5 | Killed Saint Roka 48625 | Swamp:5 | Noticed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra 48739 | Swamp:5 | Got a decaying rune of Zot 49247 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 50355 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog 51664 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 23 in Long Blades 51914 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Norris 51929 | Vaults:2 | Killed Norris 51979 | Vaults:2 | Got a jewelled great sword 51980 | Vaults:2 | Identified the +4,+10 great sword of Dried Tears {antimagic, Dex+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Vaults) 52195 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Jorgrun 52207 | Vaults:2 | Killed Jorgrun 52318 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Margery 52516 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Mara 52520 | Vaults:2 | Killed Mara 52617 | Vaults:2 | Killed Margery 52789 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog 53562 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 141/159 MP: 13/13 53786 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog 55011 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog 55100 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt. 55100 | Vaults:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 55101 | Vaults:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 55285 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades. 56262 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog 56494 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 24 in Long Blades 56882 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults 57375 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog 57381 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 174/174 MP: 14/14 57713 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). [potion of beneficial mutation] 57762 | Vaults:5 | Noticed an ancient lich 57908 | Vaults:5 | Killed an ancient lich 57908 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting 58032 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog 58101 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour 58134 | Vaults:5 | Noticed an ancient lich 58147 | Vaults:5 | Killed an ancient lich 58652 | Vaults:5 | HP: 4/180 [vault sentinel/ bolt (20)] 58661 | Vaults:5 | HP: 5/180 [vault sentinel/ bolt (19)] 58922 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [a cacodemon] 58929 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [a cacodemon] 58932 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). [a cacodemon] 59447 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a bone dragon 59615 | Vaults:5 | Killed a bone dragon 59615 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 150/189 MP: 16/16 59732 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot 60050 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog 60195 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a golden dragon 60211 | Vaults:5 | Killed a golden dragon 60278 | Vaults:5 | Got a polished halberd 60279 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -2,+3 halberd of Righteous Anger {slay drac, -Tele rF+ rC+ rN+ Int+2} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60319 | Vaults:5 | Got a shimmering helmet 60320 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -5 helmet of Trial and Error {Dex+1 Acc+6} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60346 | Vaults:5 | Got a faintly glowing chain mail 60347 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed +0 chain mail of Boredom {rF+ rC+} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60656 | Vaults:5 | Got a steaming helmet 60669 | Vaults:5 | Got a shimmering leather armour 60670 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -5 helmet of Boredom {Dex-2 Dam+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60670 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +3 leather armour "Sotienol" {Str+1 Int+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 60766 | Vaults:5 | Found Qoas' Jewellery Shoppe. 60790 | Vaults:5 | Bought the ring of Psimul {+Blink +Rage +Fly MR++} for 694 gold pieces 61977 | Snake:5 | Received a gift from Trog 62182 | Snake:5 | Got a serpentine rune of Zot 62511 | Snake:5 | Received a gift from Trog 63807 | Vaults:5 | Bought an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion for 320 gold pieces 64392 | Slime:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime 64397 | Slime:1 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 64574 | Slime:1 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 64681 | Slime:2 | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [a shining eye] 64683 | Slime:2 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 64687 | Slime:2 | Gained mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [a shining eye] 64710 | Slime:2 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 64722 | Slime:2 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 64766 | Slime:2 | Received a gift from Trog 64769 | Slime:2 | Got a brightly glowing long sword {god gift} 64770 | Slime:2 | Identified the +10,+5 long sword of Conflict {flame, rF- rC+ Dex-4 Stlth} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Pits of Slime) 65186 | Slime:2 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 173/202 MP: 16/16 65265 | Slime:3 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 65441 | Slime:3 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 65653 | Slime:3 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 66115 | Slime:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Pits of Slime 66152 | Slime:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 66490 | Slime:6 | Received a gift from Trog 66494 | Slime:6 | Noticed the royal jelly 66496 | Slime:6 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 67533 | Slime:6 | Killed the royal jelly 67574 | Slime:6 | Gained mutation: You are very clumsy. (Dex -4) [a shining eye] 68686 | Slime:6 | Got a slimy rune of Zot 68692 | Slime:6 | Got a fine silver amulet 68693 | Slime:6 | Identified the amulet "Psoh Opru" {Ward rPois Dex+2 Acc+3} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime) 68741 | Slime:6 | Got a brightly glowing lead amulet 68831 | Slime:6 | Got a jewelled leather armour 69166 | Lair:1 | Identified the cursed +1 leather armour "Kuzuvaom" {Str-3 Int-3} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime) 69196 | Lair:1 | Identified the amulet "Twepeduj" {Gourm rF+} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime) 69425 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls 69860 | Elf:1 | Received a gift from Trog 70124 | Elf:1 | Noticed Asterion 70632 | Elf:1 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure. 70849 | Elf:1 | Killed Asterion 71126 | Trove | Entered a treasure trove 71157 | Trove | Got a fine copper ring 71169 | Trove | Got a brightly glowing jade ring 71192 | Trove | Identified the ring "Zeyssuro" {SustAb rC+ Dex+4} (You found it in a treasure trove) 71192 | Trove | Identified the ring of the Omega Point {+Blink rPois AC+3} (You found it in a treasure trove) 71811 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 71910 | Elf:2 | Received a gift from Trog 71913 | Elf:2 | Got a smoking great sword {god gift} 71914 | Elf:2 | Identified the +6,+8 great sword "Earthworm" {vamp, +Rage rElec} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Elven Halls) 72499 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 72698 | Elf:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls 72701 | Elf:3 | Received a gift from Trog 73202 | Elf:3 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 195/197 MP: 30/31 73260 | Elf:3 | Got a ring of the Octopus King 73489 | Elf:3 | Got a shimmering robe 73493 | Elf:3 | Identified the cursed -1 robe of the Shining Light {rElec rPois rF+ Acc+1} (You took it off a deep elf demonologist on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 73644 | Elf:3 | Got a wavering lead ring 73650 | Elf:3 | Got a slimy great sword 73895 | Elf:3 | Found Camm's General Store. 73901 | Elf:3 | Received a gift from Trog 73947 | Elf:3 | Bought a sack of spiders for 240 gold pieces 73947 | Elf:3 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 73947 | Elf:3 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 73961 | Elf:3 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 36 gold pieces 74161 | Elf:3 | Identified the +10,+8 great sword of Ceucleid {venom, +Rage +Inv +Fly SInv Stlth+} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 74161 | Elf:3 | Identified the ring of the Tick {+Fly MP+9 Dam+5} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 74161 | Elf:3 | Identified a ring of the Octopus King {Regen AC+1 EV+1 Str+1 Dex+1 Int+1} (You took it off a deep elf sorcerer on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 74182 | Elf:3 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 75378 | Blade | Entered the Hall of Blades 75435 | Blade | Noticed Wiglaf 75450 | Blade | Killed Wiglaf 75450 | Blade | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 76185 | Crypt:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt 78368 | Crypt:2 | Got a pair of steaming gloves 78409 | Crypt:2 | Identified the cursed +0 pair of gloves of Pantheism {+Inv +Fly rElec} (You found it on level 2 of the Crypt) 78991 | Crypt:2 | Found a staircase to the Tomb. 80845 | Crypt:4 | Found a magical portal. 80925 | WizLab | Entered a wizard's laboratory 81881 | Crypt:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Evocations 81892 | Crypt:4 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 116/193 MP: 39/39 82659 | Crypt:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Crypt 82743 | Crypt:5 | Identified a cursed +8 rod of striking (13/13) (You took it off a deep elf high priest on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 83132 | Crypt:5 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 84638 | Crypt:5 | Received a gift from Trog 85176 | Crypt:5 | Noticed Khufu 86088 | Crypt:5 | Killed Khufu 86088 | Crypt:5 | Lost intelligence. 87635 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths 87934 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell. 88075 | Depths:1 | Received a gift from Trog 88163 | Depths:1 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 88347 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat. 88348 | Depths:1 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium. Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Falchion | 86 | 114 | 59 | | | | | || 259 Long sword | | | 134 | | | | | || 134 Great sword | | | 78 | 275 | 3 | | | || 356 Claymore | | | | 476 | 2008 | 1831 | 1660 | 2352 || 8327 Invok: Berserk | | 3 | 4 | 6 | 12 | 7 | 1 | 6 || 39 Burn Spellbooks | | | | 3 | 9 | 4 | 6 | 8 || 30 Trog's Hand | | | | | 1 | | 1 | || 2 Brothers in Arms | | | | | | 7 | 4 | 7 || 18 Evoke: Wand | 1 | | 3 | 6 | 18 | 3 | 2 | 4 || 37 Lamp of fire | | | | | | 1 | | || 1 Stone of tremors | | | | | | 1 | | || 1 Use: Potion | 2 | 3 | 2 | 9 | 12 | 5 | 3 | 9 || 45 Scroll | 7 | 4 | 3 | 20 | 25 | 24 | 15 | 25 || 123 Stab: Fleeing | | | | 1 | | | | || 1 Paralysed | | | | 1 | | | | || 1 Invisible | | | | | 1 | | | || 1 Confused | | | | | | 2 | | || 2 Distracted | | | | | | 1 | | || 1

The funny thing is, the loot Khufu specifically was guarding was laughably useless at this point in the game. Unless the one spellbook he was sitting on was worth anything, it was utterly and absurdly not worth it in terms of items gained for the risk involved. The rest of the Crypt was fairly profitable, but did not contain what I was looking for, which is either a decent stash of healing potions or a single potion of cure mutation. Are useful potions usually this rare, or have I just been unusually lucky before now?

Also, I entered my very first Wizard Laboratory. Unfortunately, it happened to be the one that constantly spawns enemies and therefore does not let you rest, and I decided that I had better not risk it when I really do not need very much that could possibly be there unless it can recover my max HP or restore my stats.

Saturday, 12th April 2014, 06:17 by Blomdor

Well, I decided to go for the Abyssal rune and died in the attempt. No big deal. I was aiming for new experiences with this character over winning, because I've got a berserker win under my belt anyway and this would hardly have been much different besides having one extra rune. Now, at least, I can participate in the tournament.

Even explored a ziggurat. Lots of firsts with this run. I'm very, very, VERY happy with it, and thank you all so much for helping, advising, and generally bothering to keep up with my progress.

Saturday, 12th April 2014, 19:34 by Zicher

Eyesburn wrote:
Blomdor wrote:and ten max HP from the damn death oozes (how ARE you supposed to avoid that?)
if you get status then heal it with potions of curing and recover your missing HP, 1 potion will cure 1 HP (guess potions of heal wounds works too, tho never tried those).

Potions of heal wounds and wands of healing recover ~4maxHP each when drank/zapped while you're on _full_ HP (they don't help with curing the actual Rot status though).

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