What would you train and why?

[ggoDeye]

I've only been playing DCSS for a couple of weeks and finally have the very early game under control. I do not have have any good ideas about what to do after XL 14 or so.

Here's my DECj:

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-3208-g44e9c07 (webtiles) character file.

ggoDeye the Eclecticist (Deep Elf Conjurer)        Turns: 22465, Time: 02:53:24

HP  60/60 (63)   AC 12     Str  7      XL: 13   Next: 24%
MP  34/38        EV 17     Int 27      God: Vehumet [*****.]
Gold 649         SH 11     Dex 15      Spells: 12 memorised,  3 levels left

rFire  + + +     SeeInvis .     D - +2,+6 long sword "Kaeg" {vamp, rPois rF++}
rCold  + . .     Clarity  +     h - +2 leather armour {MR+}
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     F - +0 buckler {rC+ rF+}
rPois  +         rCorr    .     u - +0 helmet
rElec  .         rRot     .     m - +0 cloak
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     p - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Warding  .     e - +2 pair of boots
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     g - amulet of clarity
MR     ++...                    r - +3 ring of intelligence
                                q - ring of wizardry

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: no striking features
a: Renounce Religion


You are on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 18 of its levels.

You have collected 948 gold pieces.
You have spent 299 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 D - the +2,+6 long sword "Kaeg" (weapon) {vamp, rPois rF++}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts no extra harm, but heals its wielder somewhat when it strikes a
   living foe.
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It protects you from poison.
Armour
 e - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
 h - a +2 leather armour of magic resistance (worn)
 m - a +0 cloak (worn)
 p - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 u - a +0 helmet (worn)
 C - a +1 robe of cold resistance
 F - a +0 buckler of resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 o - a wand of teleportation (6)
 N - a wand of digging {zapped: 1}
 R - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
 b - 4 bread rations
 c - 3 rotting chunks of troll flesh
 A - 2 royal jellies
Scrolls
 a - 2 scrolls of blinking
 k - 3 scrolls of identify
 s - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 t - a scroll of fear
 y - 2 scrolls of fog
 L - 2 scrolls of teleportation
Jewellery
 f - an uncursed ring of ice
 g - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
 q - a ring of wizardry (left hand)
 r - a +3 ring of intelligence (right hand)
 E - an uncursed ring of teleport control
 O - an uncursed ring of fire
Potions
 i - 2 potions of restore abilities
 j - 3 potions of heal wounds
 l - 2 potions of invisibility
 w - 6 potions of curing
 G - a potion of cure mutation
 H - a potion of resistance
 I - a potion of haste
 K - 2 potions of brilliance
Books
 x - a book of Wizardry   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Summon Elemental                  Summoning                    4
   Agony                              Necromancy                   5
   *Force Lance                       Conjuration                  5
   Haste                              Charms                       6
   Invisibility                       Hexes                        6
   Spellforged Servitor               Conjuration/Summoning        7
 z - a book of the Sky   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Flight                            Charms/Air                   3
   *Airstrike                         Air                          4
   Silence                            Hexes/Air                    5
   Deflect Missiles                   Charms/Air                   6
   Conjure Ball Lightning             Conjuration/Air              6
   Tornado                            Air                          9
Magical staves
 P - an uncursed staff of wizardry


   Skills:
 + Level 1.4 Long Blades
 - Level 6.1 Armour
 - Level 10.9 Dodging
 - Level 2.4 Stealth
 - Level 5.0 Shields
 + Level 16.3 Spellcasting
 - Level 14.1 Conjurations
 * Level 4.4 Charms
 - Level 0.2 Fire Magic


You have 3 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Magic Dart            Conj           ####         0%          1    None
b - Searing Ray           Conj           ######       0%          2    None
c - Iskenderun's Battles  Conj/Chrm      ######..     1%          5    None
d - Iskenderun's Mystic   Conj           #######.     1%          4    None
e - Dazzling Spray        Conj/Hex       ######..     1%          3    None
f - Flight                Chrm/Air       ####......   1%          3    None
g - Airstrike             Air            ###.......   3%          4    None
h - Throw Flame           Conj/Fire      ######       1%          2    None
i - Force Lance           Conj           #######.     1%          5    None
j - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  #####...     1%          3    None
k - Ignite Poison         Fire/Trmt      ###.......   11%         5    None
l - Summon Elemental      Summ           ###.......   10%         4    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/16)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (0/4) D:10
   Lair (7/8) D:8          Shoals (0/5) Lair:6        Snake (0/5) Lair:6
 Slime: Lair:6-8   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:9 [

Annotations:
D:3 exclusion: downstairs
D:6 exclusion: downstairs
D:9 exclusion: downstairs
Lair:1 exclusion: downstairs, Xennos' ghost, powerful GrVM
Lair:2 exclusion: ice statue
Lair:3 exclusion: downstairs
Lair:5 exclusion: downstairs
Lair:6 exclusion: downstairs

Message History

Aiming: Magic Dart
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - worker ant
Aim: a worker ant
The magic dart hits the worker ant.
The worker ant is lightly wounded.
Your battlesphere fires!
The barrage of energy hits the worker ant.
The worker ant is severely wounded.
Casting: Magic Dart
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Magic Dart
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - worker ant
Aim: a worker ant (severely wounded)
The magic dart hits the worker ant.
The worker ant is severely wounded.
Your battlesphere fires!
The barrage of energy hits the worker ant.
You kill the worker ant!
Vehumet accepts your kill.
You feel your power returning.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Snorg (Lair:7)
  5 hydras
  Fannar (Lair:1)
  A hill giant (D:10)
  2 griffons (Lair:7)
  An elephant (Lair:7)
  3 black mambas
  14 spiny frogs
  A freezing wraith (Lair:2)
  A troll (D:9)
  Grinder (D:3)
  2 wandering mushrooms (D:8)
  2 polar bears
  6 komodo dragons
  3 blink frogs (Lair:2)
  A basilisk (Lair:7)
  25 yaks
  An elephant slug (Lair:6)
  2 wyverns
  4 vampire mosquitoes (Lair:3)
  7 hippogriffs
  5 wolves (Lair:6)
  2 nagas (Lair:6)
  Edmund (D:5)
  A gargoyle (D:10)
  8 water moccasins
  2 necrophages
  9 porcupines
  2 orc warriors (D:10)
  18 ice beasts
  A black bear (D:4)
  A sky beast (D:5)
  5 phantoms
  2 centaurs
  7 ogres
  13 crocodiles
  A boring beetle (Lair:5)
  7 giant slugs
  12 giant frogs
  4 killer bees (D:7)
  4 scorpions
  7 crimson imps
  2 goliath beetles
  A quasit (D:9)
  A gnoll shaman (D:5)
  3 wights (D:7)
  4 orc priests
  6 hounds
  2 jellies
  15 orc wizards
  A big fish (D:7)
  5 iguanas
  A black bear skeleton (D:7)
  A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:8)
  14 worker ants
  4 sheep (Lair:7)
  Ijyb (D:4)
  Jessica (D:6)
  An ogre skeleton (D:8)
  Terence (D:2)
  A hound zombie (D:7)
  3 gnolls (D:5)
  34 green rats
  A worker ant zombie (D:7)
  18 adders
  3 giant mites
  3 inept feature mimics
  An inept item mimic (D:2)
  3 white imps (Lair:2)
  11 worms
  3 giant eyeballs
  10 giant geckos
  44 orcs
  26 bats
  A bat skeleton (D:4)
  6 giant cockroaches
  7 hobgoblins
  25 jackals
  18 kobolds
  13 quokkas
  A giant gecko zombie (D:5)
  3 giant newts
  2 giant spores
  4 goblins
  A goblin skeleton (D:4)
  2 orc skeletons
  7 rats
  4 ballistomycetes
  2 fungi (D:8)
517 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  4 fungi
4 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 521 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | ggoDeye, the Deep Elf Conjurer, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5
   213 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 7/15 MP: 0/8
   217 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Searing Ray
   395 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
   752 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 7/10
  1070 | D:2      | Noticed Terence
  1150 | D:2      | Killed Terence
  1415 | D:2      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  1467 | D:2      | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations
  1657 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 7/13
  2067 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
  2130 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
  2130 | D:3      | Reached skill level 7 in Conjurations
  2130 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 5/18
  2130 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/32 MP: 5/20
  2316 | D:3      | Learned a level 5 spell: Iskenderun's Battlesphere
  2321 | D:3      | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast
  3097 | D:4      | You fall through a shaft!
  3097 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3136 | D:5      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  3158 | D:5      | Noticed Edmund
  3166 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Conjurations
  3481 | D:6      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 25/36 MP: 18/22
  3582 | D:5      | Killed Edmund
  3582 | D:5      | Reached skill level 9 in Conjurations
  3804 | D:4      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  3890 | D:4      | Noticed Ijyb
  3896 | D:4      | Killed Ijyb
  4519 | D:4      | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
  4731 | D:4      | Got a twisted long sword
  4740 | D:4      | Identified the +2,+6 long sword "Kaeg" {vamp, rPois rF++} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
  4774 | D:4      | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray
  5170 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 15/23
  5320 | D:5      | Noticed a necrophage
  5328 | D:5      | Killed a necrophage
  5328 | D:5      | Reached skill level 11 in Conjurations
  6020 | D:5      | Reached skill level 12 in Conjurations
  6758 | D:6      | Noticed Jessica
  6760 | D:6      | Killed Jessica
  6773 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  6993 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 14/41 MP: 3/25
  7205 | D:7      | Reached skill level 13 in Conjurations
  7652 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  7710 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7720 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7745 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
  7790 | Temple   | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight
  8197 | D:7      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  8814 | D:8      | Acquired Vehumet's first power
  8814 | D:8      | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet.
  9074 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9168 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
  9818 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  9818 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 47/47 MP: 23/31
 10655 | D:9      | Found Joymar's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 10682 | D:9      | Bought an embroidered robe for 21 gold pieces
 10682 | D:9      | Bought a shiny buckler for 139 gold pieces
 10683 | D:9      | Bought a helmet for 139 gold pieces
 10700 | D:9      | Learned a level 4 spell: Airstrike
 10786 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
 10813 | D:9      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 10904 | D:9      | Offered knowledge of Shock by Vehumet.
 10907 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 11200 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11200 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 11694 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 12032 | D:10     | Offered knowledge of Throw Flame by Vehumet.
 12238 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 12318 | D:10     | Got a faintly glowing helmet
 12319 | D:10     | Identified the -5 helmet of Surprise {+Rage rElec rPois Str+3} (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
 12752 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 12759 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 12763 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 12985 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame
 13022 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 5 spell: Force Lance
 13037 | Lair:1   | Acquired Vehumet's second power
 13138 | Lair:1   | Noticed Fannar
 13145 | Lair:1   | Killed Fannar
 13441 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 51/51 MP: 22/32
 13485 | Lair:1   | Got a twisted scale mail
 13486 | Lair:1   | Identified the +5 scale mail "Woowk" {+Rage rF+ Curse} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 13531 | Lair:1   | Noticed Xennos' ghost (powerful GrVM)
 13984 | Lair:1   | Offered knowledge of Mephitic Cloud by Vehumet.
 14182 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
 14225 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 14453 | Lair:1   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 15085 | Lair:2   | Noticed an ice statue
 15486 | Lair:2   | Acquired Vehumet's third power
 15538 | Lair:2   | Offered knowledge of Lightning Bolt by Vehumet.
 17391 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 56/56 MP: 29/35
 17505 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 14 in Conjurations
 17749 | Lair:4   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 17777 | Lair:4   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 17881 | Lair:4   | Offered knowledge of Ignite Poison by Vehumet.
 17943 | Lair:4   | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 18407 | Lair:4   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 18447 | Lair:4   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 19489 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
 19496 | Lair:5   | Learned a level 5 spell: Ignite Poison
 19501 | Lair:5   | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Elemental
 20104 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 20318 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 20476 | Lair:6   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 20491 | Lair:6   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 20862 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 21391 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting
 21488 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 60/60 MP: 38/38
 21597 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 21763 | Lair:7   | Got an encrusted leather armour
 21764 | Lair:7   | Identified the +0 leather armour of Parts Unknown {+Fly} (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)
 21943 | Lair:7   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 21950 | Lair:7   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 22185 | Lair:7   | Noticed Snorg
 22201 | Lair:7   | Killed Snorg


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Dagger            |       |    10 |    11 |       |       ||    21
       Long sword        |       |       |    15 |     4 |       ||    19
 Cast: Magic Dart        |    46 |    53 |   285 |   535 |    48 ||   967
       Searing Ray       |     4 |     9 |    45 |    19 |       ||    77
       Iskenderun's Myst |       |     7 |    13 |   122 |    24 ||   166
       Iskenderun's Batt |       |       |    24 |   153 |    16 ||   193
       Force Lance       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Mephitic Cloud    |       |       |       |    19 |     6 ||    25
       Flight            |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     4 |     6 |       ||    10
  Use: Potion            |     3 |       |     5 |     1 |       ||     9
       Scroll            |     2 |     3 |    11 |    16 |     1 ||    33


I intend on using Firestorm as my endgame WMD.

What would you train and why? I know that I will probably get 10 different conflicting answers so I'm going to go with the best explanation or agreement. Also, what spells would you learn next? Haste is my next target but I also want to free up some spell levels for whatever Vehumet offers me next.

I'm currently training Long Blades, Spellcasting and Charms (so I can learn Haste).

[Sar]

What I would probably train right now: Fighting. Reason: holy shit, 60 HP on a level 13 character that isn't even a cat.
What I wouldn't train for quite a long time: Spellcasting.

[Hirsch I]

with that much HP, if a goblin sneezes near you, you die.

[ggoDeye]

What I would probably train right now: Fighting. Reason: holy shit, 60 HP on a level 13 character that isn't even a cat.
What I wouldn't train for quite a long time: Spellcasting.

If I understand the Fighting skill correctly, I only get 1.625 HP per skill level right now. You really think that it is worth it?

[tedric]

Yes. You are squishy, like bug. Is bad.

Once you get some Fighting, a bit of Stealth might not be a bad idea.

[Sar]

I have no idea what Fighting actually does apart from that it improves your HP and melee capabilities. Your HP is quite bad, your magical offence will be OK for a while, your AC/EV are not offensive (though if you have any scrolls of enchant armour you should probably go and enchant those gloves and helmet, maybe cloak).

Though I admit I haven't played DE in ages, I'm out of touch wrt what their HP are supposed to be like at this point in the game. Still, at least 10 Fighting seems like a good idea.

[Sandman25]

I did wizard mode tests. 1 fighting results in 64 HP, 2 - 66, 3 - 68, 4-70, 5-72,6-74.

[crate]

well i'd get some fighting (and probably long blades) because that's a reasonably decent weapon you are wielding and i would like hitting things with it to be better, and as a bonus it gives me some hp ... but it should be well-known that I like hitting things with weapons a lot more than most players do.

If you have any enchant armour I'd use it on your gloves (and if you have more maybe on your helmet) since I would like to be more durable.

Assuming you have some amnesia (or books, for the spells you learned from books) you can free up lots of spell levels just fine by forgetting spells you already know, so you don't need to worry about that.. To be honest I like none of your spellset except for Flight, IMB, and battlesphere (well ok I don't like battlesphere but it is strong) and maybe Force Lance.

[Sar]

Wow, that's a big difference a little bit of Fighting can make.

[and into]

And even with poor aptitudes, you will get some levels in fighting and long blades very fast. I agree with crate and Sar, get some fighting, then some long blades. You got a good weapon—one with vampiric ego, no less, which helps keep you alive to boot. So I'd do that and get some more dodging because EV is your friend.

I agree with crate that there are a lot of spells on there that are redundant or that I wouldn't bother with, but if you are still figuring out what you like and haven't had much opportunity to try out a lot of these spells, it makes sense to experiment. Any that you find yourself not using, though, can be cleared out when you need to make room for a new spell. (Assuming you got a couple of ?amnesia and/or some books you don't need with the spell you want to forget—people often forget or don't know this, but you can destroy a book to forget a spell contained in said book. Hit r to read, select spell book, select spell you already have memorized, hit F, answer prompt with Y. The book dies but takes your memory of the spell with it.)

[Sandman25]

Yes, formula for fighting was changed recently. Before the change it gave about 2.2% per skill level, not good for DE with 63 HP indeed.

[ggoDeye]

I did wizard mode tests. 1 fighting results in 64 HP, 2 - 66, 3 - 68, 4-70, 5-72,6-74.

I started pumping fighting and I have 72 HP at level 4. Def worth it.

And even with poor aptitudes, you will get some levels in fighting and long blades very fast. I agree with crate and Sar, get some fighting, then some long blades. You got a good weapon—one with vampiric ego, no less, which helps keep you alive to boot. So I'd do that and get some more dodging because EV is your friend.

I agree with crate that there are a lot of spells on there that are redundant or that I wouldn't bother with, but if you are still figuring out what you like and haven't had much opportunity to try out a lot of these spells, it makes sense to experiment. Any that you find yourself not using, though, can be cleared out when you need to make room for a new spell. (Assuming you got a couple of ?amnesia and/or some books you don't need with the spell you want to forget—people often forget or don't know this, but you can destroy a book to forget a spell contained in said book. Hit r to read, select spell book, select spell you already have memorized, hit F, answer prompt with Y. The book dies but takes your memory of the spell with it.)

I'm going to avoid longblades. Call it noob arrogance but I can't imagine how putting that XP into something other than my main defensive and offensive tool is a good thing.

I had no idea that amnesia gave you the spell levels back. I assumed it was just used to free up a space to make room in your total spell memerization cap (which I've read is 20 spells). I will do this soon.

If you have any enchant armour I'd use it on your gloves (and if you have more maybe on your helmet) since I would like to be more durable.

I wish. This run has been the most generous that I've encountered so far but I've only found 1 or 2 scrolls of enchant armor.

[damiac]

[quote="ggoDeye]I'm going to avoid longblades. Call it noob arrogance but I can't imagine how putting that XP into something other than my main defensive and offensive tool is a good thing.[/quote]

Yep, that's noob arrogance alright. I did the same thing for a long time, now I can't imagine playing any character without some melee ability. Remember, getting 10 in long blades isn't going to be a huge exp sink, but it will make you much more effective with that sword. Some melee skill, coupled with the fact that it's a vampiric sword, means you will be able to melee a lot of stuff you're wasting MP on (and making extra noise in the process) right now. If you're out of mana, you can kill stuff with your sword, to refill your HP and your MP(thanks to vehemut).

Anyway, I think you might want to rethink that. Nobody's saying you should suddenly pump all your xp into long blades, but a small investment there will pay off very well for you.

[Sandman25]

I'm going to avoid longblades. Call it noob arrogance but I can't imagine how putting that XP into something other than my main defensive and offensive tool is a good thing.

No, it is not arrogance, it is unawareness that sometimes you will have to fight at 0 MP to survive.

[Hirsch I]

you can kill every rat in the dungeon with fire storm. but the noise will wake up tons of monsters, that will come to see what is going on, and find a tasty deep elf without full mana. yummy.
10 levels in long blades is enough to raise 1 or 2 levels in conjuration. see if this is worth it.
also what Sandie said.

[ggoDeye]

Well, you are all convincing enough. Now what should I ask for with this scroll of acquirement I just read?

[TheArcanist]

I'm going to avoid longblades. Call it noob arrogance but I can't imagine how putting that XP into something other than my main defensive and offensive tool is a good thing.

Melee attacks only cost the delay it takes to make the attack, unlike spells, which always require MP. Once you run out of MP in the middle of a pitched fight, what do you plan on doing? Simply running will only get you so far - especially if you're forced to burn a valuable escape option like ?tele to do so.

And, like Damiac said, there's a lot to be said for doing things quietly - especially for branch ends.

Well, you are all convincing enough. Now what should I ask for with this scroll of acquirement I just read?

Considering the fact you're worshiping Vehumet, if you haven't found a spellbook with Haste/Deflect Missiles yet, I'd consider spending it on a spellbook. If you do, go for a staff - if nothing else, they almost always provide at least a useful resistance.

[Hirsch I]

in your boots I would ask of a book. but idk whic books do you have...

[Magipi]

10 levels in long blades is enough to raise 1 or 2 levels in conjuration.

More like only 0.5 level in Conj, I guess.

[some12fat2move]

Now what should I ask for with this scroll of acquirement I just read?

Armour is a pretty good bet. Although If you don't have a wand of HW, those are really good and you might get one from wand acquirement. In my opinion book is a bad idea, especially in this case as you really don't need more spells than you already have (well haste would be great, but you have a book for that)...

[TheArcanist]

in your boots I would ask of a book. but idk whic books do you have...

On review of his char dump, he appears to have both Wizardry and Air, so he has both Deflect Missiles and Haste. Vehumet will give him all the killdudesing he'll ever need, so I doubt it'd be optimal to spend it on a spellbook. I reiterate my opinion that a staff would be wise - at worst, he gets something like Summoning, and at least that gives warding and rN.

[Hirsch I]

I agree. I forgot to check the dump.

[Sandman25]

I forgot this thread title ends with "why". Please see table of skill points required to increase skill level, it can be used to judge how expensive high skill levels really become.

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    const int exp[28] = { 0, 50, 150, 300, 500, 750,         // 0-5
                          1050, 1400, 1800, 2250, 2800,      // 6-10
                          3450, 4200, 5050, 6000, 7050,      // 11-15
                          8200, 9450, 10800, 12300, 13950,   // 16-20
                          15750, 17700, 19800, 22050, 24450, // 21-25
                          27000, 29750 };

[Mattchew]

Re ?acq, I usually ask for armour, I'm usually satisfied and often enough wowed by what I get. I believe you have found all your slots, which means you're less likely to get a crap item that fills a missing slot. I'd go armour.

[Magipi]

Please see table of skill points required to increase skill level, it can be used to judge how expensive high skill levels really become.

Is this total experience, or just going up one level?
(I mean, 50 is lvl 1, do you need 150 more or 100 more to reach lvl 2?)

[crate]

In general the good acquirements are weapon (this is the most likely to give you a good item, but having two good weapons is not much more useful than having one, so there's the drawback), wand (probably the best for a majority of characters), armour (less exciting than wand ... you generally hope for good aux armour from this since body armours tend to be bad for various reasons), and sometimes staff (particularly for characters where this will generate a rod), roughly in that order of goodness.

[and into]

If there are some expensive but immediately useful things in shops that you are actively saving up for right now, and you aren't really close to being able to buy them yet, then acquire gold is a great option.

Otherwise: acquire wand. Good shot for wand of heal wounds, haste, or teleportation, and wands like digging and disintegration are still very welcome if you haven't found them yet. Unless you have all those wands already in which case armor or lots of other things is fine.

[Sandman25]

Please see table of skill points required to increase skill level, it can be used to judge how expensive high skill levels really become.

Is this total experience, or just going up one level?
(I mean, 50 is lvl 1, do you need 150 more or 100 more to reach lvl 2?)

Total, you need 100 more to reach lvl 2.