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Swamp Slogger

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Joined: Wednesday, 29th December 2010, 22:32

Post Tuesday, 8th February 2011, 00:11

Looking for endgame advice.

So, I'm currently in the middle of my best run to date as a MfIE of Sif Muna. I've got three runes (and have had them since before going below floor 15 in the main dungeon, actually) for the first time ever, I've cleared floor 27, I'm at experience level 26, and I'm not exactly sure what I should do next.

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a0-4873-g76db833 character file.

Sjohara the Eclecticist (Merfolk Ice Elementalist)                                                                                                Turns: 146312, Time: 10:15:09

HP 183/183 (191) AC 20     Str 14      Exp: 26/907018 (2), need: 110581
MP  45/45        EV 23     Int 23      God: Sif Muna [******]
Gold 6413        SH 23     Dex 18      Spells: 16 memorised,  0 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : .   P - +11,+7 trident "Ebayjoy" {elec, +Rage rC+}
Res.Cold  : + + +   Warding    : .   p - +1 leather armour of Light {rF+ Stlth++}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : +   W - +2 orc buckler
Res.Acid. : + . .   Res.Corr.  : +   H - +2 helmet "Zofioces" {rF+ Stlth+}
Res.Poison: .       Clarity    : .   r - +2 cloak {rCorr, Cons}
Res.Elec. : +       Spirit.Shd : .   h - +2 pair of gloves {Str+3}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .   F - +5 pair of boots "Xoebyn" {rElec}
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   q - amulet of the gourmand
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   e - ring "Gaan" {Hunger- rC+ Int+4 Dam+3}
Gourmand  : +       Ctrl.Flight: .   U - ring of ice

@: overloaded, very slow, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: change form in water, Int -1
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is exalted by your worship.
You are overloaded with stuff.
You are full.

You have visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and seen 61 of its levels.
You have visited 1 Labyrinth.
You have visited 1 bazaar.
You have visited 3 portal chambers: ossuary, trove, ice cave.

You have collected 7190 gold pieces.
You have spent 797 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 d - the +3,+9 dagger of Chagrin (quivered) {drain, rF+ rC+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   A truly terrible weapon, it drains the life of those it strikes.
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
 P - the +11,+7 trident "Ebayjoy" (weapon) {elec, +Rage rC+}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)   
   Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy
   and cause terrible harm.
   It protects you from cold.
   It lets you go berserk.
 Q - the +2,+3 hammer "Crepen" {freeze, +Inv rC++ rN+}
   (You found it in a Labyrinth)   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly
   susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you turn invisible.
Armour
 h - a +2 pair of gloves of strength (worn)
 p - the +1 leather armour of Light (worn) {rF+ Stlth++}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Snake Pit)   
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 r - a +2 cloak of preservation (worn)
 F - the +5 pair of boots "Xoebyn" (worn) {rElec}
   (You found it in a Labyrinth)   
   It insulates you from electricity.
 H - the +2 helmet "Zofioces" (worn) {rF+ Stlth+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 K - a +3 leather armour of magic resistance
 W - a +2 orcish buckler (worn)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of healing (9)
 E - a wand of lightning (8)
 Y - a wand of digging (9)
 Z - a wand of fireball (9)
Comestibles
 n - 10 royal jellies
Scrolls
 i - 18 scrolls of blinking
 u - 5 scrolls of identify
 w - 11 scrolls of teleportation
 y - 10 scrolls of fog
 z - 9 scrolls of recharging
 B - 21 scrolls of remove curse
 C - 10 scrolls of fear {Fear}
Jewellery
 b - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 c - the ring of Sheonk {rN+ MR Str+1 Int+5 SInv}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   [ring of intelligence]
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It affects your strength (+1).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 e - the ring "Gaan" (right hand) {Hunger- rC+ Int+4 Dam+3}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)   
   [ring of sustenance]
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3).
   It protects you from cold.
 o - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 q - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
 t - an uncursed ring of life protection
 A - a ring of sustain abilities
 D - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
 G - an uncursed ring of magical power
 I - an uncursed amulet of clarity
 J - an uncursed ring of regeneration
 M - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 S - an uncursed amulet of warding
 U - a ring of ice (left hand)
 X - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
Potions
 g - 2 potions of heal wounds
 j - 6 potions of magic
 k - 3 potions of might
 l - 7 potions of healing
 L - 2 potions of resistance
 O - 6 potions of cure mutation
Books
 N - a book of the Warp   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Banishment                         Translocation                4
   Phase Shift                        Translocation                5
   Passage of Golubria                Translocation                5
   Warp Weapon                        Charms/Translocation         5
   Dispersal                          Translocation                6
   Controlled Blink                   Translocation                7
   
Magical staves
 v - a staff of cold
 x - a +0 rod of destruction [lightning,iron,fireball] (12/12)
   (You found it on level 4 of the Snake Pit)
Miscellaneous
 f - a silver rune of Zot
 m - a serpentine rune of Zot
 s - a decaying rune of Zot


 You have 2 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 14 Fighting
 - Level 2 Long Blades
 - Level 12 Polearms
 + Level 4 Armour
 + Level 14 Dodging
 - Level 5 Stealth
 - Level 4 Stabbing
 + Level 12 Shields
 + Level 2 Traps & Doors
 + Level 4 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 19 Spellcasting
 - Level 12 Conjurations
 - Level 13 Charms
 - Level 2 Summonings
 - Level 9 Translocations
 - Level 16 Ice Magic
 - Level 5 Air Magic
 - Level 12 Invocations


You cannot memorise any spells.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Success   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            #####        Perfect     1    None
b - Throw Icicle          Ice/Conj       ########.    Excellent   4    None
c - Ozocubu's Armour      Ice/Chrm       ########..   Excellent   3    None
d - Extension             Chrm           #######...   Excellent   5    None
e - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       #######...   Excellent   5    None
f - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          Excellent   2    None
g - Ozocubu's Refrigerat  Ice            ########..   Excellent   5    None
h - Bolt of Cold          Ice/Conj       ########..   Excellent   6    Choko
i - Apportation           Tloc           #######...   Excellent   1    None
j - Freezing Cloud        Ice/Air/Conj   ########..   Great       6    Choko
k - Deflect Missiles      Air/Chrm       #######...   Very Good   6    Choko
l - Control Teleport      Chrm/Tloc      #######...   Excellent   4    None
m - Haste                 Chrm           #######..    Excellent   6    Choko
n - Summon Butterflies    Summ           #####.....   Excellent   1    None
o - Silence               Air/Hex/Chrm   ######....   Great       5    None
p - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      #######...   Excellent   3    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:11
    Elf (0/5) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:8           Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
  Slime (0/6) Lair:6        Snake (5/5) Lair:5         Hive (2/2) D:12
  Vault (8/8) D:15          Blade (1/1) Vault:4       Crypt (0/5) Vault:2
    Zot (0/5) D:27       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:6: [  D:8: [  D:18: [  Vault:1: =  Vault:3: ?(  Vault:7: !

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27
Abyss: D:23* D:24 D:25
Pan: D:24 D:27

Annotations
D:20 exclusion: 2 downstairs
D:22 exclusions: Boris and 3 more exclusions
D:24 exclusion: ogre
Lair:2 exclusion: oklob plant
Snake:1 exclusion: oklob plant


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You revert to your normal form in water.
You are dopey (Int -1).


Message History

Things that are here:
a +2,+0 trident; an uncursed glaive of protection; a wand of fireball (8); a wand of disintegration {zapped: 3}
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Q - the hammer "Crepen" {freeze, +Inv rC++ rN+}
Identify which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
As you read the scroll, it crumbles to dust.
Q - the +2,+3 hammer "Crepen" {freeze, +Inv rC++ rN+}

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Frederick (D:27)
  A lich (D:25)
  3 acid blobs
  Nikola (Snake:2)
  A titan (Vault:8)
  9 shadow dragons
  4 sphinxes
  Rupert (Swamp:5)
  Agnes (Vault:2)
  Frances (Vault:3)
  Roxanne (Orc:3)
  Aizul (Swamp:4)
  A storm dragon (Vault:7)
  Donald (Snake:3)
  A bone dragon (Vault:7)
  5 azure jellies (D:25)
  Louise (Vault:2)
  4 fire giants
  4 tentacled monstrosities
  29 stone giants
  The ghost of Ssarisa the Grappler, a powerful NaTm of Cheibriados (Lair:6)
  Jozef (Swamp:4)
  5 greater nagas (Snake:5)
  A deep elf sorcerer (D:19)
  Snorg (D:15)
  46 yaktaur captains
  A minotaur (Lab)
  6 great orbs of eyes
  9 ettins
  23 vault guards (Vault:8)
  11 death oozes
  Erica (Lair:2)
  2 dragons
  58 dancing weapons
  2 ice dragons (Port)
  4 anacondas
  28 hydras
  An anaconda (shapeshifter) (D:27)
  Nessos (D:12)
  3 rakshasas
  18 ogre magi
  A frost giant zombie (D:22)
  3 orc high priests
  2 stone giant zombies
  An alligator (shapeshifter) (D:20)
  Nergalle (Snake:3)
  3 very ugly things
  14 death yaks
  26 deep trolls
  26 centaur warriors
  13 alligators
  4 draconians (shapeshifter)
  The ghost of Sjohara the Transmogrifier, an experienced MfTm of Yredelemnul (D:11)
  A vapour (Swamp:4)
  69 slime creatures
  A fire giant skeleton (D:24)
  3 shadow wraiths
  A frost giant skeleton (Vault:8)
  4 giant orange brains (D:21)
  11 stone giant skeletons
  2 iron trolls
  2 ice devils (D:17)
  4 deep elf knights
  10 griffons
  13 skeletal warriors
  14 naga warriors
  2 wizards
  6 flayed ghosts
  2 giant orange brains (shapeshifter)
  4 swamp dragons
  5 harpies (Vault:7)
  29 orc knights
  3 ice statues
  An iron troll zombie (D:22)
  9 orc sorcerers
  6 unseen horrors
  19 hill giants
  A hill giant (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  2 necromancers
  A snapping turtle (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  A harpy zombie (D:21)
  6 giant amoebae
  A rock troll (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  A red wasp (D:24)
  Urug (Orc:4)
  2 guardian serpents
  A guardian serpent (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  A harpy (shapeshifter) (Vault:3)
  A statue (Vault:3)
  7 spiny worms
  5 phantasmal warriors
  A hydra skeleton (D:14)
  17 cyclopes
  2 cyclopes (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  An ice dragon zombie (Vault:3)
  A door mimic (Vault:1)
  3 ettin zombies
  21 black mambas
  4 fountain mimics
  2 stair mimics
  A trap mimic (D:13)
  A trapdoor spider (D:13)
  35 elephants
  A spiny worm zombie (D:22)
  7 mimics
  An elephant slug (Lair:7)
  An ettin skeleton (Vault:6)
  4 portal mimics
  9 spiny frogs
  18 eyes of devastation (D:21)
  63 yaktaurs
  2 fire crabs
  2 dragon skeletons
  2 griffon skeletons
  2 orange demons (D:19)
  A guardian serpent skeleton (D:19)
  A mermaid (D:12)
  3 wolf spiders
  84 ugly things
  A giant toad skeleton (Vault:1)
  7 rock trolls
  4 elves (shapeshifter)
  2 redbacks (shapeshifter)
  2 komodo dragons (shapeshifter)
  A hill giant skeleton (D:19)
  17 naga magi
  9 komodo dragons
  A slime creature (shapeshifter) (Vault:4)
  2 rock troll zombies
  A spriggan (shapeshifter) (D:22)
  29 two-headed ogres
  4 redbacks
  A smoke demon (D:24)
  2 queen bees
  17 trolls
  8 baby alligators
  20 blink frogs
  5 deep troll zombies
  A hairy devil (D:24)
  A blink frog (shapeshifter) (D:27)
  A griffon simulacrum (Vault:3)
  A human (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  29 giant toads
  2 deep troll skeletons (D:19)
  A bumblebee (D:19)
  A rock troll skeleton (Vault:4)
  15 brown oozes
  3 deep elf conjurers (D:23)
  3 grizzly bears
  2 giant fireflies (shapeshifter)
  A vampire (D:18)
  A red wasp simulacrum (D:21)
  A wyvern (Lair:5)
  3 vipers
  6 wraiths
  2 hungry ghosts
  93 yaks
  2 golden eyes (D:21)
  2 neqoxecs
  3 sharks (D:11)
  An elephant skeleton (Vault:2)
  8 hippogriffs
  A viper (shapeshifter) (Vault:7)
  A fire crab zombie (D:22)
  47 vampire mosquitos
  34 war dogs
  A blink frog skeleton (D:22)
  6 deep elf fighters
  A gargoyle (D:17)
  A yaktaur zombie (D:19)
  2 giant slug zombies
  2 hell hounds (Lair:8)
  3 rock worms
  6 mottled dragons
  A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  3 yaktaur skeletons
  31 swamp worms
  3 cyclops zombies
  5 sky beasts
  A rock troll simulacrum (D:15)
  4 soldier ants
  5 freezing wraiths
  A kobold demonologist (D:20)
  A phantom (D:7)
  4 necrophages
  55 orc warriors
  9 giant goldfish
  2 cyclops skeletons
  57 insubstantial wisps
  10 swamp drakes
  25 ice beasts
  8 gila monsters
  A redback simulacrum (Vault:2)
  A deep elf mage (Vault:4)
  2 boring beetles
  73 ogres
  61 nagas
  47 centaurs
  14 wargs
  9 crocodiles
  5 wolves (Lair:8)
  2 boulder beetle zombies
  A yak skeleton (D:14)
  4 big kobolds
  A fire crab simulacrum (D:16)
  2 giant slugs (shapeshifter)
  30 giant frogs
  7 giant leeches
  4 brain worms
  13 giant slugs
  34 water moccasins
  A warg zombie (Vault:8)
  A centaur skeleton (D:15)
  7 agate snails
  An eye of draining (D:21)
  8 boulder beetles
  187 killer bees
  17 jellyfish
  8 wights
  31 electric eels
  13 imps
  4 goliath beetles
  14 hounds
  A mottled dragon zombie (Vault:3)
  32 orc priests
  10 big fish
  2 quasits
  2 scorpions
  2 big kobold skeletons
  2 gila monster skeletons
  3 shadows
  A jelly (shapeshifter) (Vault:4)
  6 porcupines
  A hound skeleton (D:13)
  8 iguanas
  2 worker ant zombies
  8 deep elf soldiers
  24 orc wizards
  2 orange rats (D:18)
  32 sheep
  4 worker ants
  An orc zombie (Vault:8)
  39 jellies
  6 boggarts
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:14)
  10 mummies (Port)
  13 gnolls
  49 snakes
  32 green rats
  A scorpion zombie (D:8)
  2 giant centipede zombies
  8 giant centipedes
  5 giant mites
  2 snake skeletons
  7 worms
  8 ufetubi (Vault:7)
  A grey rat (D:18)
  3 giant eyeballs
  A megabat zombie (D:14)
  10 giant geckos
  15 oozes (D:25)
  18 goblins
  22 hobgoblins
  35 jackals
  292 orcs
  12 quokkas
  11 giant cockroaches
  7 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:10)
  3 goblin skeletons (Port)
  34 killer bee larvae
  37 kobolds
  2 kobold skeletons
  55 megabats
  4 orc skeletons
  A quokka zombie (D:6)
  32 rats
  12 rat skeletons
  A rat zombie (D:6)
  5 small snakes
  A butterfly (D:18)
  5 fungi
  15 plants
  132 toadstools
3273 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A vault guard (Vault:8)
  A dragon (Vault:7)
  An anaconda (Snake:5)
  An alligator (Swamp:1)
  A stone giant skeleton (Vault:4)
  A centaur warrior (Vault:4)
  2 hill giants (Vault:2)
  A cyclops (Vault:2)
  A spiny worm (Vault:4)
  A slime creature (Vault:2)
  A mimic (Vault:2)
  2 ugly things
  A naga mage (Snake:5)
  4 bog mummies
  2 two-headed ogres (Vault:3)
  2 baby alligators
  A blink frog (Lair:7)
  A giant toad (Vault:2)
  A yak (Vault:3)
  A swamp worm (Swamp:4)
  7 nagas
  An orc warrior (Vault:4)
  An ogre (Vault:3)
  A water moccasin (Snake:5)
  A killer bee (Vault:2)
  A mottled dragon zombie (Vault:3)
  A goliath beetle (D:11)
  A worker ant (D:11)
  2 sheep (Vault:4)
  3 snakes (Snake:5)
  2 orcs
  A kobold (Vault:3)
  A megabat (Swamp:4)
  A rat (Swamp:4)
  A butterfly (Vault:4)
52 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A death ooze (D:25)
  A guardian serpent (Snake:2)
  25 slime creatures
  A brown ooze (D:25)
  A yak (D:18)
  40 ice beasts
  2 nagas (Snake:2)
  An ogre (Vault:4)
  A warg (D:25)
  A giant frog (D:6)
  A killer bee (Hive:2)
  2 hounds
  A jelly (D:25)
  6 oozes (D:25)
  2 goblins
  3 hobgoblins
  A jackal (Lair:4)
  An orc (D:23)
  A quokka (D:25)
  A giant newt (D:3)
  A goblin skeleton (Port)
  A megabat (D:19)
  3 rats
  4 butterflies (D:25)
  13 fungi
  4 plants
  527 toadstools
646 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 3971 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1     | Sjohara, the Merfolk Ice Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1     | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 3/3
   469 | D:1     | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
   515 | D:1     | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/16 MP: 2/4
  1203 | D:2     | Reached XP level 3. HP: 22/22 MP: 1/5
  1207 | D:2     | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  1565 | D:2     | Reached XP level 4. HP: 19/27 MP: 3/8
  2303 | D:3     | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
  2355 | D:3     | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms
  2649 | D:3     | Reached XP level 5. HP: 22/33 MP: 4/9
  3044 | D:2     | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  3323 | D:3     | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  3362 | D:3     | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
  3535 | D:3     | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4015 | D:3     | Reached XP level 6. HP: 35/38 MP: 10/11
  4288 | D:4     | Noticed Duvessa
  4684 | D:4     | Noticed Dowan
  4971 | D:5     | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5327 | D:5     | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
  5585 | D:5     | Reached XP level 7. HP: 45/45 MP: 10/14
  5674 | D:5     | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  6245 | D:5     | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  6876 | D:6     | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  6913 | ossuary | Entered a tomb
  7500 | ossuary | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
  7505 | ossuary | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  7633 | ossuary | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
  8574 | D:6     | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
  8581 | D:6     | Reached XP level 8. HP: 39/52 MP: 15/18
  9100 | D:6     | Found Sonnouv's Antique Armour Emporium.
  9106 | D:6     | Bought a bloodstained helmet for 247 gold pieces
  9110 | D:6     | Identified the +2 helmet "Zofioces" (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)
  9572 | D:7     | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 10285 | D:7     | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
 10294 | Temple  | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
 10584 | Temple  | Became a worshipper of Sif Muna the Loreminder
 10963 | D:8     | Found Firoapt's Armour Shop.
 10986 | D:8     | Bought a +0 cloak of preservation for 77 gold pieces
 11161 | D:8     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 62/62 MP: 11/19
 11161 | D:8     | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 11358 | D:8     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 11372 | D:8     | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
 11545 | D:8     | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
 11812 | Lair:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 11949 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 12134 | Lair:1  | Acquired Sif Muna's first power
 12363 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 8 in Ice Magic
 12380 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 13530 | Lair:2  | Reached skill level 9 in Ice Magic
 13573 | Lair:2  | Noticed Erica
 13610 | Lair:2  | Defeated Erica
 13610 | Lair:2  | Reached XP level 10. HP: 18/70 MP: 15/21
 13634 | Lair:2  | Acquired Sif Muna's second power
 14251 | Lair:2  | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic
 14845 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 11 in Ice Magic
 14929 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 5 spell: Summon Ice Beast
 15297 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 12 in Ice Magic
 15727 | Lair:2  | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 15731 | Lair:2  | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
 15786 | Lair:2  | Reached XP level 11. HP: 79/79 MP: 12/25
 16251 | Lair:3  | Acquired Sif Muna's third power
 16619 | Lair:3  | Reached skill level 13 in Ice Magic
 18092 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
 18157 | Lair:4  | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 20064 | Lair:4  | Reached XP level 12. HP: 68/90 MP: 19/27
 20317 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 20326 | Lair:4  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 20327 | Lair:4  | Got a torn book {god gift}
 20328 | Lair:4  | Identified Sif Muna's Grimoire of the Harmful Snowflakes {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 20335 | Lair:4  | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Cold
 20673 | Lair:4  | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 21003 | Lair:5  | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 22438 | Lair:5  | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 23174 | Lair:5  | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 23254 | Lair:6  | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 23696 | Lair:6  | Noticed Ssarisa's ghost (powerful NaTm)
 24565 | Lair:6  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 24582 | Lair:6  | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 24660 | Lair:6  | Defeated Ssarisa's ghost
 25178 | Lair:6  | Reached XP level 13. HP: 84/98 MP: 10/29
 26387 | Lair:6  | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 26625 | Lair:6  | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 26981 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 6 spell: Freezing Cloud
 28667 | Lair:7  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 28962 | Lair:7  | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 30605 | Lair:8  | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 31076 | Lair:8  | Reached skill level 14 in Ice Magic
 31774 | Lair:7  | Reached XP level 14. HP: 90/106 MP: 15/31
 33115 | Lair:7  | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 33373 | Lair:7  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 33374 | Lair:7  | Got a rare book {god gift}
 33375 | Lair:7  | Identified Sif Muna's Reference Book on Snow {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)
 34649 | Lair:8  | Got a glittering golden ring
 34650 | Lair:8  | Got a steaming chain mail
 34662 | Lair:8  | Identified the +0 chain mail of the Mutiny (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 35870 | Lair:8  | Reached skill level 15 in Ice Magic
 36431 | Lair:4  | Identified the ring of Sheonk {Str+1 Int+5} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 36486 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 37741 | Swamp:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 68/115 MP: 9/33
 38123 | D:6     | Bought a pair of fine boots for 214 gold pieces
 38127 | D:6     | Identified the +1 pair of boots of Midwinter (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 38530 | Swamp:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
 39965 | Swamp:1 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 39966 | Swamp:1 | Got a colourful book {god gift}
 39967 | Swamp:1 | Identified Rubludapt's Handbook of the Lethal Glacier {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Swamp)
 41283 | Swamp:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 41604 | Swamp:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Teleport
 42224 | Swamp:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 46174 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Aizul
 46198 | Swamp:4 | Defeated Aizul
 46390 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
 48552 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Jozef
 48559 | Swamp:4 | Defeated Jozef
 48789 | Swamp:4 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 118/118 MP: 30/35
 49307 | Swamp:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 49307 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Rupert
 49317 | Swamp:5 | Defeated Rupert
 49587 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Wiglaf
 51746 | Swamp:5 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 51751 | Swamp:5 | Got a droning book {god gift}
 51818 | Swamp:5 | Identified Sif Muna's Collected Works on Charms and Hexes {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 5 of the Swamp)
 52152 | Swamp:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 52840 | Swamp:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 53309 | Swamp:5 | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 54258 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 55054 | Snake:1 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 56553 | D:10    | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 58398 | D:11    | Noticed Sjohara's ghost (experienced MfTm)
 58418 | D:11    | Defeated Sjohara's ghost
 59014 | D:11    | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 59022 | Orc:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 59181 | Orc:1   | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 59935 | Orc:2   | You fall through a shaft!
 60013 | Orc:3   | Reached XP level 17. HP: 107/124 MP: 27/36
 60198 | Orc:4   | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 60646 | Orc:3   | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 60904 | Orc:3   | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 60915 | Orc:3   | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 60926 | Orc:3   | Noticed Roxanne
 61187 | Orc:3   | Defeated Roxanne
 61194 | Orc:3   | Got an antique book
 61196 | Orc:3   | Identified Roxanne's Compendium of Roxanne (You took it off Roxanne on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)
 61890 | Orc:2   | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 62243 | Orc:4   | Noticed Urug
 62249 | Orc:4   | Defeated Urug
 64490 | D:12    | Found a staircase to the Hive.
 65241 | D:12    | Noticed Nessos
 65258 | D:12    | Defeated Nessos
 66430 | D:12    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 66431 | D:12    | Got a levitating book {god gift}
 66432 | D:12    | Identified Sif Muna's Book of Blows and Bruises and Hexes {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 67829 | Hive:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Hive
 68026 | D:13    | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 68765 | D:14    | Reached skill level 10 in Polearms
 70825 | D:15    | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 72133 | D:15    | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 72295 | D:15    | Noticed Snorg
 72332 | D:15    | Defeated Snorg
 72683 | Vault:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 72710 | D:15    | Reached XP level 18. HP: 124/131 MP: 3/37
 72968 | Vault:1 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 72988 | Vault:1 | Got a colourful book {god gift}
 72998 | D:15    | Identified Pureeko's Disquisition on Charms {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Vaults)
 73143 | D:15    | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste
 73278 | Vault:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
 73682 | Vault:1 | Found Tryxam's Jewellery Emporium.
 74039 | Vault:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms
 76295 | Vault:2 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 76295 | Vault:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 76296 | Vault:2 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 76424 | Vault:2 | Noticed Louise
 78667 | Vault:2 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 78680 | Vault:2 | Noticed Agnes
 78685 | Vault:2 | Defeated Agnes
 78881 | Vault:2 | Defeated Louise
 79205 | Vault:3 | Noticed Frances
 79209 | Vault:3 | Defeated Frances
 79248 | Vault:3 | Found Roplead's Magic Scroll Emporium.
 79445 | Vault:3 | Found Rammuif's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 79476 | Vault:3 | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 79492 | Lab     | Entered a Labyrinth
 80339 | Lab     | Got an engraved book
 80339 | Lab     | Got a black book
 80339 | Lab     | Got a sparkling book
 80342 | Lab     | Identified the Volume of Confrontation and Air (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80342 | Lab     | Identified the Book of Hexes (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80342 | Lab     | Identified Vehumet's Book of Confrontation and Weightlessness (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80350 | Lab     | Got a pair of crude boots
 80355 | Lab     | Got an uncursed bloodstained hammer
 80358 | Lab     | Identified the hammer "Crepen" {freeze, +Inv rC++ rN+} (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80362 | Lab     | Identified the +5 pair of boots "Xoebyn" (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80384 | Lab     | Got a bloodstained great mace
 80390 | Lab     | Got a pitted splint mail
 80403 | Lab     | Identified the +2 splint mail of Ladders and Snakes (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80419 | Lab     | Got a heavily runed plate mail
 80432 | Lab     | Identified the +3 plate mail "Troreate" (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80465 | Vault:3 | Identified the great mace "Oshrur" {freeze, rF+} (You took it off a minotaur in a Labyrinth)
 80817 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 5 spell: Ozocubu's Refrigeration
 80982 | Swamp:2 | Got a shimmering sling
 80983 | Swamp:2 | Identified the sling "Yshaneig" {frost, MUT Int+2 SInv} (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)
 81605 | Snake:2 | Noticed Nikola
 81619 | Snake:2 | Defeated Nikola
 81619 | Snake:2 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 113/137 MP: 15/38
 82858 | Snake:3 | Got a crude leather armour
 82876 | Snake:2 | Identified the cursed +1 leather armour of Light (You found it on level 3 of the Snake Pit)
 82957 | Snake:3 | Noticed Donald
 83163 | Snake:3 | Defeated Donald
 83326 | Snake:3 | Noticed Nergalle
 83383 | Snake:3 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 131/131 MP: 18/37
 83384 | Snake:3 | Defeated Nergalle
 83384 | Snake:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 126/137 MP: 19/38
 84981 | Snake:4 | Identified an uncursed rod of destruction [lightning,iron,fireball] (You found it on level 4 of the Snake Pit)
 85342 | Snake:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 85496 | Snake:5 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 85497 | Snake:5 | Got a torn book {god gift}
 85498 | Snake:5 | Identified Otel's Incunabulum of Charms and Changing {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 5 of the Snake Pit)
 87757 | Snake:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 87955 | Snake:5 | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 89321 | trove   | Entered a treasure trove
 89330 | trove   | Got a dazzling helmet
 89409 | trove   | Identified the +1 helmet of the Iron City of Dis (You found it in a treasure trove)
 89971 | Vault:3 | Bought a slimy dagger for 259 gold pieces
 89972 | Vault:3 | Identified the cursed dagger of Chagrin {drain, rF+ rC+} (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Vaults)
 90468 | Vault:3 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 91195 | Vault:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 92222 | Vault:4 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting
 92971 | Vault:4 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades.
 93039 | Vault:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
 93683 | Blade   | Entered the Hall of Blades
 93695 | Blade   | Reached XP level 20. HP: 124/144 MP: 29/39
 94848 | Vault:5 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 95617 | Vault:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 96609 | Blade   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 96614 | Blade   | Got a torn book {god gift}
 96615 | Blade   | Identified Miafyima's Catalogue of Charms {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you in the Hall of Blades)
 99965 | Blade   | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
100601 | Blade   | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations
101373 | Blade   | Reached XP level 21. HP: 144/154 MP: 13/40
102584 | Vault:4 | Noticed a glowing elven short sword
102585 | Vault:4 | Defeated a glowing elven short sword
104450 | Vault:7 | Found Uzutt's Distillery.
106075 | Vault:7 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting
106205 | Vault:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Vaults
106210 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 143/159 MP: 22/41
106261 | Vault:7 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
106297 | Vault:7 | Learned a level 5 spell: Lightning Bolt
106594 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 123/152 MP: 25/41
106601 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 123/159 MP: 11/41
106854 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 145/152 MP: 24/41
106860 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 132/159 MP: 6/41
107222 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 143/152 MP: 32/41
107434 | Vault:8 | Got a dazzling demon blade
107435 | Vault:8 | Identified the demon blade "Rium Bukuve" {drain, rElec rF+ Stlth++} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
108637 | Vault:8 | Got a glittering steel ring
108639 | Vault:8 | Got a twitching brass ring
108657 | Vault:8 | Got a transparent broad axe
108658 | Vault:8 | Identified the broad axe of Change {speed, rElec} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
108666 | Vault:8 | Identified the ring "Gaan" {Int+4} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
108984 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 159/159 MP: 18/41
109162 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 152/152 MP: 36/41
109498 | Vault:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
109628 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 151/159 MP: 41/41
110090 | Vault:8 | Noticed a guardian serpent
110090 | Vault:8 | A guardian serpent changed into a spriggan
110240 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 152/152 MP: 19/41
110246 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 144/159 MP: 17/41
110661 | Vault:8 | Identified an uncursed rod of destruction [ice] (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
110856 | Vault:8 | A yaktaur changed into a guardian serpent
110858 | Vault:8 | Defeated a guardian serpent
110882 | Vault:8 | Identified the ring "Soes" {+Lev Str+5 Dex+3} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
111309 | Vault:4 | Noticed a deep elf mage
111311 | Vault:4 | Defeated a deep elf mage
111586 | Vault:8 | Noticed a pulsating lump
111586 | Vault:8 | A pulsating lump changed into a hill giant
111633 | Vault:8 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
111635 | Vault:8 | Got a blackened book {god gift}
111673 | Vault:7 | Identified Sif Muna's Tome of Attacks {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 8 of the Vaults)
112444 | Vault:8 | Noticed a bone dragon
112882 | Vault:7 | Defeated a bone dragon
113015 | Vault:8 | Got a rare book
113016 | Vault:8 | Identified the Compendium of Feathery Charms (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
113987 | Vault:8 | Got a transparent trident
113988 | Vault:8 | Identified the trident "Ebayjoy" {elec, +Rage rC+} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
113996 | Vault:8 | Got a silver rune of Zot
114002 | Vault:8 | Got a twisted splint mail
114016 | Vault:8 | Identified the cursed +1 splint mail of the Commoners (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
114447 | Vault:8 | Got a faintly glowing mace
114448 | Vault:8 | Identified the cursed mace of Pride {speed, +Blink +Inv rElec MR} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
114479 | Vault:8 | Got a colourful book
114480 | Vault:8 | Identified the Guide on Blistering Charms (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
114500 | Vault:8 | Got an uncursed steaming quarterstaff
114501 | Vault:8 | Identified the quarterstaff of Karma {speed, *Rage Dex+4} (You took it off a centaur warrior on level 8 of the Vaults)
114553 | Vault:8 | Got a crystal quick blade
114557 | Vault:8 | Identified the cursed quick blade "Caepeaca" {freeze, +Rage} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
114606 | Vault:8 | Got a warped bow
114607 | Vault:8 | Identified the cursed bow of Duoguh {speed, Noisy rF+ Dex+3 SInv} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
118406 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 6 spell: Deflect Missiles
119455 | D:17    | Noticed a gargoyle
119618 | D:17    | Defeated a gargoyle
119786 | D:17    | Found a frozen archway.
119791 | D:17    | Reached XP level 23. HP: 152/164 MP: 28/42
119815 | IceCv   | Entered an ice cave
121060 | D:18    | Found Ghautesh's Armour Emporium.
121092 | D:18    | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
121174 | D:18    | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting
122101 | D:19    | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
122324 | D:19    | Got a shimmering robe
122374 | D:19    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
122627 | D:19    | Identified the +3 robe of the Thunderstorm (You found it on level 19 of the Dungeon)
122726 | D:19    | Noticed a shadow dragon
122830 | D:19    | Noticed a deep elf sorcerer
122831 | D:19    | Defeated a deep elf sorcerer
122969 | D:19    | Gained mutation: You are agile (Dex +1).
122991 | D:19    | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat.
123356 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat.
123356 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
123356 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You are agile (Dex +1).
123367 | Lair:1  | Identified a scroll of acquirement
123368 | Lair:1  | Got a warped lead ring
123371 | Lair:1  | Identified the ring "Nahostut" {Int+1} (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
123879 | D:19    | Defeated a shadow dragon
124378 | D:19    | Got a glistering book {god gift}
124463 | D:19    | Noticed a shadow dragon
124472 | D:19    | Defeated a shadow dragon
125659 | D:20    | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
125700 | D:20    | Identified Sif Muna's Sophisticated Witchcraft {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 19 of the Dungeon)
126775 | Hive:2  | Entered Level 2 of the Hive
130308 | D:21    | Found a gateway to Hell.
130416 | D:21    | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
131593 | D:21    | Reached XP level 24. HP: 174/174 MP: 36/43
131789 | D:21    | Noticed a shining eye
133044 | D:22    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
133048 | D:22    | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
133393 | D:22    | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
133648 | D:22    | Noticed Boris
134057 | D:22    | Noticed Mennas
135370 | D:23    | Noticed a deep elf conjurer
135372 | D:23    | Defeated a deep elf conjurer
135475 | D:23    | Noticed a deep elf conjurer
135478 | D:23    | Defeated a deep elf conjurer
135719 | D:23    | Gained mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
136275 | D:23    | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
136768 | D:24    | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
138830 | D:25    | Entered Level 25 of the Dungeon
139482 | D:25    | Reached skill level 19 in Spellcasting
140703 | D:25    | Reached XP level 25. HP: 174/179 MP: 31/45
141199 | D:25    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
141209 | D:25    | Got an engraved book {god gift}
141210 | D:25    | Identified Nuh Det's Incunabulum of Twisted Creation {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 25 of the Dungeon)
142740 | D:26    | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
143682 | D:27    | Entered Level 27 of the Dungeon
143708 | D:27    | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
143913 | D:27    | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
143932 | bazaar  | Entered a bazaar
143940 | bazaar  | Found Shriseema's Magical Wand Shop.
143960 | bazaar  | Found Zegei's Book Shop.
144346 | D:27    | Noticed Frederick
144362 | D:27    | Defeated Frederick
144669 | D:27    | A yaktaur changed into a guardian serpent
144671 | D:27    | A guardian serpent changed into a troll
144700 | D:26    | You fall through a shaft!
144896 | D:27    | Reached XP level 26. HP: 141/183 MP: 7/45
145342 | D:23    | Noticed a deep elf conjurer
145363 | D:23    | Defeated a deep elf conjurer
146032 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 5 spell: Extension
146038 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 5 spell: Silence
146042 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration



My resistances in standard equipment are pretty good, I think; either rF+ rC+++ and one MR or rF++ rC++ rN+ and two MR depending on whether I use my Ring of Ice or one of my artifact rings, and can get any one resistance to +++ if I need to, or maybe several if I try hard enough. I haven't touched the Crypt, the Elven Halls, Hell, or the Slime Pits (and I've never tried them with any prior character either, so I don't know what to expect). Should I go straight for Zot, or would it be safer to do one of those other branches first?

Also, I find that the Summon Ice Beast spell has largely outlived its usefulness for anything except killing mummies and stair-dancing shenanigans, so I've been wondering if I should replace it. The most promising-looking alternatives are Teleport Self (I have a decent number of scrolls, though), Phase Shift (I just picked up Extension, so it'd be free EV), Simulacrum, Alistar's Intoxication (I do have an amulet of clarity, though I typically wear gourmand), Passage of Golubria (which I've never tried), and Berserker Rage (my weapon does have +Rage, but I have no evocation skill). I also have Controlled Blink, but the success rate is only Poor and I'm not sure if I should train Translocations for it when I can already do semicontrolled blinks (actually, I can get it up to Good with a ring of wizardry, but that means sacrificing resistances). What would be the most useful at this point in the game?
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Shoals Surfer

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Post Tuesday, 8th February 2011, 00:51

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

The crypt, elf:1-4, and vestibule should be doable. Phase Shift and Extension don't go well together. Use phase shift in combat. I've used Passage of Golubria before... its uses are pretty narrow. Simulacrum is very nice if you have abundant corpses. Alistair's Intoxication is useful against orb guardians and draconians. I recommend Dispel Undead and Abjuration.

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 3037

Joined: Sunday, 2nd January 2011, 02:06

Post Tuesday, 8th February 2011, 01:27

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

Crypt is a cakewalk. You can use it to train fighting if you want, or bootstrap necromancy with Dispel Undead. Nothing down there should be remotely threatening to your killing machine except possibly uniques like Mara or Boris, and they could have spawned pretty much anywhere.

Elf shouldn't really be too hard at this point. Deflect Missiles will keep most of the actually-bad stuff off of you, and Ozocubu's Refrigeration and Freezing Cloud really tear up fragile deep elf casters. Don't bother bringing in or depending on consumables, though, because they throw lots of inventory-destroying effects at you. The end vault is pretty tough, so make sure you're Hasted and Deflecting Missiles at all times, unless you get the variant where the elves are trapped by a moat in which case you can alternate between maniacal laughter and Freezing Clouds from just outside their line-of-sight.

Slime can be pretty tricky, but you're actually positioned to be quite well-prepared for it. Ozocubu's tears up slimes pretty well, since even the azure jellies only have one pip of cold resistance. You'll want the rMut amulet for sure, a rCorr amulet if you've got it, and enough food to cast Deflect Missiles and Haste whenever you see an acid blob. Don't wear non-artifact armor on your little excursion.

Pan, Tomb, and Hells are maybe after that. You'll probably want to clear Zot for the xp before then, but you could absolutely take this character on a 15-Rune run if you want.

Teleport Self is enormously helpful, and Controlled Blink is magnificent. As a caster you want at least Teleport Self before going to Slime, and Controlled Blink before going to Pan, Hells, or Tomb.

Abjuration is a third-level summoning spell that I strongly recommend training up a bit. Enemy casters in Elf, Zot, Tomb, Pan, and Hells can summon massive swarms of high-powered demons, including ones that bypass your cardinal defenses and elemental resistances entirely. If you train summoning to 8 or so, a single casting of Abjuration will clear the entire screen of all these temporary summons, every single time.

Swamp Slogger

Posts: 163

Joined: Wednesday, 29th December 2010, 22:32

Post Tuesday, 8th February 2011, 01:54

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

I don't have a single book with Abjuration or Dispel Undead. It was only very recently that I even got my Amulet of Warding; I mostly fled up stairs to timeout summons the few times I've encountered them. How much does that affect the safety of the Crypt and Elven Halls? And how much better is Dispel Undead than Throw Icicle at lowish Necromancy skill, anyway? (Boris is asleep and safely tucked behind a bunch of travel exclusions on D:22, so no worries there.)

And there's no way I'm going to get greedy and go for 15 runes. I've never so much as set foot in Zot before, let alone ascended, so I'm not inclined to throw away my first opportunity. I'm not sure I even want to risk Elf 5, given that the Vaults were already pretty kind to me as far as equipment goes. Maybe I'll make a backup save before the orb run just to see how far I could have gone, though (if I don't screw up and die before then). It'd be an interesting learning experience at least.

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 3037

Joined: Sunday, 2nd January 2011, 02:06

Post Tuesday, 8th February 2011, 05:47

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

sjohara: Dispel Undead deals about as much damage as a Crystal Spear, but you can probably cope by casting Silence and then using your trident to berserk in its face if you need to deal with a lich. Throw Icicle probably won't be as fast as you'd like if you face one of the nastier lich spell sets, since the screen can fill up with summons pretty fast.

If you haven't found Abjuration, then all the more reason to loot Elf. The end vault usually has several spellbooks. Elf casters can be nasty, but draconian casters in Zot are worse and you can't skip that. Just remember that Haste solves a lot of problems by letting you RUN AWAY RUN AWAY. You can always come back after recovering your health and buffing up.

minmay: I didn't really mean to imply that you couldn't die in Crypt if you were actively trying. Liches aren't all that bad; Paralyse and Haste are never on the same lich, and when that's the nastiest thing on the level you can just Haste-kite it to a remote part of the level and leave it there.

Have you ever seen how Boris handles his Orbs? Swiftness won't save you once that thing's bearing down on you. I've seen it pull 180-degree u-turns in a 3-wide room, and there's a set of screenshots that were floating around a while back where Boris had his Orb follow the player literally across the entire level after an emergency teleport.

Swamp Slogger

Posts: 163

Joined: Wednesday, 29th December 2010, 22:32

Post Tuesday, 8th February 2011, 06:26

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

Well, I cleared both the Crypt and the Elven Halls without much trouble. Crypt 5 was a fortress with a huge moat and little doors in the back, so I just swam around and sniped the liches in the doorways without them being able to reach me. Khufu and his entourage showed up and I wisely decided to scram without fighting him (I'm pretty sure I got all the treasure though, limited as it was). On the way down I actually ran into Mara in a windy corridor too narrow to aim blinks in, which was pretty scary, but I hit a controlled teleport scroll immediately and unloaded on him with Frozen Cloud and some Icicles. I killed him (and an illusion) a couple of rounds after my clone was summoned, and then the teleport scroll kicked in a couple of rounds after that. It was like clockwork, really.

The Elven Halls were actually pretty trivial with Deflect Missiles, two items of magic resistance, conservation, and Ozocubu's Refrigeration. I had to haste up the stairs to heal a couple times to make sure I wasn't accidentally drawing too many at once, but I was never in any real trouble. Funny story: I heard once that you could disable the controlled teleport block by drinking the fountain. Since the fountain in question was right in the middle of the vault, I assumed that this meant that there were a bunch of hidden controlled-teleport-only vaults hidden around with even more treasure. This is not, in fact, true, meaning I took a dozen extremely dangerous quaffs of the fountain for absolutely no reason. Fortunately I only got scales and armor plates.

I'm working on clearing Zot now. Draconians go down easily enough with all the AoE I can throw down and electric golems are no problem with rElec. Orbs of Fire seem to be beyond my ability to kill, at least with magic, but rF++ was sufficient to keep me alive long enough to teleport away, even with two shooting at me at once. It does make me worry about what Zot 5 is going to be like, though. Sif Muna did finally give me Abjuration, at least.

Spider Stomper

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Joined: Thursday, 3rd February 2011, 13:14

Post Wednesday, 9th February 2011, 07:16

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

Your game sounds a lot like mine right now, I have a High Elf ice reaver (who's trying to carefully clean out Zot:5 enough to get a shot at apporting the orb) . He also lacked dispel undead and abjuration, but since he hits pretty hard (+7 flaming katana, +8 electric double sword. Thanks, Okawaru!), by the time he got them it was simpler to just cast silence and bash away.

I had to laugh at this:

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P - the +11,+7 trident "Ebayjoy" (weapon) {elec, +Rage rC+}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)   


Sure you didn't buy it on Ebay?
Crazy Yiuf mutters: "Good: bonuses. Bad: Boni. Ugly: Bonii!"

Slime Squisher

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Joined: Friday, 24th December 2010, 07:29

Post Wednesday, 9th February 2011, 23:14

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

are orbs of fire completely harmless if silenced?
TrCK:
Xom grants you an implement of some kind.
_Something appears at your feet!
4790 gold pieces {god gift}.

DsAr:
You blink. You feel slightly more hungry. Prince Ribbit hits you. You die...
"Hey, that's my toy!"
Xom revives you!

Ziggurat Zagger

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Joined: Sunday, 2nd January 2011, 02:06

Post Wednesday, 9th February 2011, 23:16

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

Orbs of Fire care not for such petty things as the rules of the game. They cast right through silence.

Swamp Slogger

Posts: 163

Joined: Wednesday, 29th December 2010, 22:32

Post Thursday, 10th February 2011, 00:30

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

I won!

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a0-4873-g76db833 character file.

1241407 Sjohara the Sorcerer (level 27, 191/191 (203) HPs)
             Began as a Merfolk Ice Elementalist on Feb 6, 2011.
             Was the Champion of Sif Muna.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 3 runes (of 3 types) on Feb 8, 2011!
             
             The game lasted 15:00:29 (191806 turns).

Sjohara the Sorcerer (Merfolk Ice Elementalist)                                                                                                   Turns: 191806, Time: 15:00:29

HP 191/191 (203) AC 29     Str 15      Exp: 27/1725288 (3)
MP  34/48        EV 29     Int 26      God: Sif Muna [******]
Gold 8162        SH 25     Dex 20      Spells: 18 memorised,  0 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + .   See Invis. : +   P - +11,+7 trident "Ebayjoy" {elec, +Rage rC+}
Res.Cold  : + + .   Warding    : .   p - +1 leather armour of Light {rF+ Stlth++}
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : +   O - +2 elf buckler {rC+}
Res.Acid. : + . .   Res.Corr.  : +   H - +2 helmet "Zofioces" {rF+ Stlth+}
Res.Poison: +       Clarity    : .   r - +1 cloak {rCorr, Cons}
Res.Elec. : +       Spirit.Shd : .   h - +2 pair of gloves {Str+3}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .   F - +5 pair of boots "Xoebyn" {rElec}
Res.Mut.  : +       Ctrl.Telep.: +   X - amulet of resist mutation
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   b - ring of Coward {rPois Dex+2}
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .   c - ring of Sheonk {rN+ MR Str+1 Int+5 SInv}

@: icy armour, deflect missiles, regenerating, very slightly glowing, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: change form in water
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage


You escaped.
You worshipped Sif Muna.
Sif Muna was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and saw 76 of its levels.
You visited 1 Labyrinth.
You visited 1 bazaar.
You visited 3 portal chambers: ossuary, trove, ice cave.

You collected 9590 gold pieces.
You spent 1448 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 d - the +3,+9 dagger of Chagrin (quivered) {drain, rF+ rC+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   A truly terrible weapon, it drains the life of those it strikes.
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
 P - the +11,+7 trident "Ebayjoy" (weapon) {elec, +Rage rC+}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)   
   Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy
   and cause terrible harm.
   It protects you from cold.
   It lets you go berserk.
Armour
 h - a +2 pair of gloves of strength (worn)
 p - the +1 leather armour of Light (worn) {rF+ Stlth++}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Snake Pit)   
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 r - a +1 cloak of preservation (worn)
 F - the +5 pair of boots "Xoebyn" (worn) {rElec}
   (You found it in a Labyrinth)   
   It insulates you from electricity.
 H - the +2 helmet "Zofioces" (worn) {rF+ Stlth+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 O - a +2 elven buckler of cold resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of healing (8)
 m - a wand of healing (9)
 Y - a wand of digging (10)
Comestibles
 n - 2 royal jellies
 D - a meat ration
Scrolls
 f - a scroll of detect curse
 i - 17 scrolls of blinking
 w - 14 scrolls of teleportation
 y - 4 scrolls of fog
 B - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 C - 6 scrolls of fear {Fear}
 J - a scroll of amnesia
 N - a scroll of enchant weapon II
 Q - 10 scrolls of recharging
Jewellery
 b - the ring of Coward (right hand) {rPois Dex+2}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)   
   [ring of poison resistance]
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
 c - the ring of Sheonk (left hand) {rN+ MR Str+1 Int+5 SInv}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   [ring of intelligence]
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It affects your strength (+1).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 e - the ring "Gaan" {Hunger- rC+ Int+4 Dam+3}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)   
   [ring of sustenance]
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3).
   It protects you from cold.
 k - an uncursed ring of teleport control
 o - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 t - an uncursed ring of life protection
 z - the amulet of Gosaq {Gourm +Inv}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)   
   [amulet of the gourmand]
   It lets you turn invisible.
 E - a +1 ring of intelligence
 I - an uncursed amulet of clarity
 R - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 S - an uncursed amulet of warding
 U - an uncursed ring of ice
 V - a cursed -4 ring of intelligence
 X - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
Potions
 g - 2 potions of heal wounds
 j - 3 potions of magic
 l - 6 potions of healing
 A - 5 potions of brilliance
 G - 2 potions of cure mutation
 K - 7 potions of speed
 L - a potion of resistance
 M - 3 potions of restore abilities
 T - 3 potions of might
Books
 u - a book of Frost   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Freeze                             Ice                          1
   Throw Frost                        Conjuration/Ice              2
   *Ozocubu's Armour                  Charms/Ice                   3
   *Throw Icicle                      Conjuration/Ice              4
   Summon Ice Beast                   Ice/Summoning                5
   *Freezing Cloud                    Conjuration/Ice/Air          6
   
Magical staves
 v - a staff of cold
Orbs of Power
 Z - the Orb of Zot
Miscellaneous
 q - a serpentine rune of Zot
 s - a decaying rune of Zot
 x - a silver rune of Zot


 You had 3 experience left.

   Skills:
 - Level 15 Fighting
 - Level 2 Long Blades
 - Level 14 Polearms
 - Level 5 Armour
 + Level 19 Dodging
 - Level 5 Stealth
 - Level 4 Stabbing
 + Level 15 Shields
 + Level 4 Traps & Doors
 + Level 5 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 25 Spellcasting
 - Level 13 Conjurations
 - Level 14 Charms
 - Level 2 Summonings
 + Level 7 Necromancy
 - Level 13 Translocations
 + Level 18 Ice Magic
 - Level 6 Air Magic
 - Level 13 Invocations
 + Level 1 Evocations


You couldn't memorise any spells.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Success   Level  Hunger
a - Controlled Blink      Tloc           N/A          Great       7    Choko
b - Throw Icicle          Ice/Conj       ########.    Excellent   4    None
c - Ozocubu's Armour      Ice/Chrm       ########..   Perfect     3    None
d - Extension             Chrm           ########..   Excellent   5    None
e - Teleport Self         Tloc           N/A          Excellent   5    None
f - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          Perfect     2    None
g - Ozocubu's Refrigerat  Ice            ########..   Excellent   5    None
h - Bolt of Cold          Ice/Conj       ########..   Excellent   6    None
i - Apportation           Tloc           #######...   Perfect     1    None
j - Freezing Cloud        Ice/Air/Conj   #######...   Excellent   6    None
k - Deflect Missiles      Air/Chrm       #######...   Excellent   6    None
l - Control Teleport      Chrm/Tloc      ########..   Excellent   4    None
m - Haste                 Chrm           ########.    Excellent   6    None
n - Summon Butterflies    Summ           ######....   Excellent   1    None
o - Silence               Air/Hex/Chrm   #######...   Excellent   5    None
p - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      #######...   Excellent   3    None
q - Abjuration            Summ           ######....   Excellent   3    None
s - Dispel Undead         Necr           #######..    Excellent   4    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:11
    Elf (5/5) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:8           Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
  Slime (0/6) Lair:6        Snake (5/5) Lair:5         Hive (2/2) D:12
  Vault (8/8) D:15          Blade (1/1) Vault:4       Crypt (5/5) Vault:2
   Tomb (0/3) Crypt:2         Zot (5/5) D:27       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:6: [  D:8: [  D:18: [  Elf:2: /(  Elf:4: [  Vault:1: =  Vault:3: ?(  Vault:7: !

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27
Abyss: D:23* D:24 D:25
Pan: D:24 D:27

Annotations
D:20 exclusion: 2 downstairs
D:22 exclusions: Boris and 3 more exclusions
D:24 exclusion: ogre
Lair:2 exclusion: oklob plant
Snake:1 exclusion: oklob plant
Crypt:1 exclusion: 2 curse skulls
Crypt:3 exclusion: curse skull
Zot:3 1 exclusion

Message History

It has a very clean taste.
Your body's shape seems slightly more normal.
You feel clever. Your body's shape seems more normal.
It has a very clean taste.
Your large bone plates disappear. Your colourless scales disappear.
Are you sure you want to leave the Dungeon?
You have escaped!

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There were no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  4 ancient liches
  6 orbs of fire
  Saint Roka (Crypt:3)
  A curse toe (Zot:5)
  Mara (Crypt:4)
  5 Killer Klowns
  An illusory Mara (Crypt:4)
  4 electric golems
  Frederick (D:27)
  4 liches
  14 acid blobs
  Nikola (Snake:2)
  A titan (Vault:8)
  18 Orb Guardians (Zot:5)
  10 golden dragons
  2 deep elf blademasters
  13 shadow dragons
  4 sphinxes
  Rupert (Swamp:5)
  Agnes (Vault:2)
  Frances (Vault:3)
  4 draconian knights
  Roxanne (Orc:3)
  2 draconian monks
  Aizul (Swamp:4)
  19 storm dragons
  Donald (Snake:3)
  11 bone dragons
  4 draconian scorchers
  5 azure jellies (D:25)
  Louise (Vault:2)
  4 fire giants
  2 draconian zealots
  5 draconian annihilators
  29 tentacled monstrosities
  30 stone giants
  4 draconian shifters
  A quicksilver dragon skeleton (Crypt:4)
  5 green draconians
  2 draconian callers (Zot:4)
  6 grey draconians
  The ghost of Ssarisa the Grappler, a powerful NaTm of Cheibriados (Lair:6)
  8 deep elf annihilators (Elf:5)
  7 mottled draconians
  2 Green Deaths (Crypt:5)
  Jozef (Swamp:4)
  5 greater nagas (Snake:5)
  10 black draconians
  3 deep elf sorcerers
  5 deep elf death magi (Elf:5)
  9 red draconians
  7 pale draconians
  7 purple draconians
  6 white draconians
  15 yellow draconians
  4 deep elf master archers (Elf:5)
  A titan zombie (Crypt:1)
  2 vampire knights (Crypt:5)
  Snorg (D:15)
  46 yaktaur captains
  A minotaur (Lab)
  6 great orbs of eyes
  10 ettins
  23 vault guards (Vault:8)
  11 death oozes
  Erica (Lair:2)
  11 dragons
  63 dancing weapons
  4 death cobs
  An anaconda zombie (Crypt:3)
  8 ice dragons
  4 anacondas
  28 hydras
  An anaconda (shapeshifter) (D:27)
  2 deep elf demonologists (Elf:5)
  An anaconda skeleton (Crypt:2)
  Nessos (D:12)
  2 golden dragon zombies (Crypt:5)
  3 rakshasas
  18 ogre magi
  2 frost giant zombies
  3 orc high priests
  2 stone giant zombies
  An alligator (shapeshifter) (D:20)
  4 deep elf high priests (Elf:5)
  Nergalle (Snake:3)
  3 very ugly things
  14 death yaks
  26 deep trolls
  27 centaur warriors
  An iron dragon zombie (Crypt:4)
  13 alligators
  4 draconians (shapeshifter)
  The ghost of Sjohara the Transmogrifier, an experienced MfTm of Yredelemnul (D:11)
  A sun demon (Elf:5)
  4 ghost moths
  A vapour (Swamp:4)
  69 slime creatures
  A fire giant skeleton (D:24)
  4 iron golems (Crypt:5)
  3 shadow wraiths
  A frost giant skeleton (Vault:8)
  4 giant orange brains (D:21)
  11 stone giant skeletons
  A death drake (Zot:4)
  2 iron trolls
  2 ice devils (D:17)
  27 deep elf knights
  10 griffons
  62 skeletal warriors
  A mottled draconian zombie (Crypt:2)
  14 naga warriors
  2 wizards
  7 flayed ghosts
  2 giant orange brains (shapeshifter)
  A dire elephant skeleton (Crypt:3)
  4 swamp dragons
  6 hell knights (Crypt:5)
  5 harpies (Vault:7)
  29 orc knights
  3 ice statues
  2 iron troll zombies
  A grey draconian skeleton (Crypt:5)
  11 orc sorcerers
  6 unseen horrors
  19 hill giants
  A hill giant (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  A vampire mage (Crypt:4)
  9 necromancers
  A snapping turtle (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  2 black draconian skeletons
  2 harpy zombies
  6 giant amoebae
  A rock troll (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  A white draconian skeleton (Crypt:4)
  2 crystal golems (Crypt:5)
  A red wasp (D:24)
  Urug (Orc:4)
  2 guardian serpents
  A minotaur skeleton (Crypt:3)
  A guardian serpent (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  A harpy (shapeshifter) (Vault:3)
  A statue (Vault:3)
  A wolf spider zombie (Crypt:4)
  7 spiny worms
  6 phantasmal warriors
  A hydra skeleton (D:14)
  17 cyclopes
  2 cyclopes (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  An ice dragon zombie (Vault:3)
  33 moths of wrath
  An oklob plant (Zot:4)
  A door mimic (Vault:1)
  A death drake skeleton (Crypt:4)
  A griffon zombie (Crypt:3)
  3 ettin zombies
  21 black mambas
  4 fountain mimics
  2 stair mimics
  A trap mimic (D:13)
  A dragon zombie (Crypt:1)
  A trapdoor spider (D:13)
  35 elephants
  A spiny worm zombie (D:22)
  7 mimics
  An elephant slug (Lair:7)
  2 ettin skeletons
  4 portal mimics
  9 spiny frogs
  18 eyes of devastation (D:21)
  A tormentor (Elf:5)
  63 yaktaurs
  2 fire crabs
  3 dragon skeletons
  2 griffon skeletons
  4 orange demons
  A guardian serpent skeleton (D:19)
  A mermaid (D:12)
  A hill giant zombie (Crypt:1)
  2 alligator skeletons
  3 wolf spiders
  84 ugly things
  A giant toad skeleton (Vault:1)
  7 rock trolls
  A spriggan zombie (Crypt:4)
  A giant firefly zombie (Crypt:1)
  4 elves (shapeshifter)
  2 redbacks (shapeshifter)
  2 komodo dragons (shapeshifter)
  A hill giant skeleton (D:19)
  17 naga magi
  14 komodo dragons
  A slime creature (shapeshifter) (Vault:4)
  2 rock troll zombies
  A spriggan (shapeshifter) (D:22)
  29 two-headed ogres
  4 redbacks
  A smoke demon (D:24)
  2 queen bees
  17 trolls
  8 baby alligators
  20 blink frogs
  5 deep troll zombies
  4 human zombies (Crypt:5)
  An agate snail zombie (Crypt:5)
  A hairy devil (D:24)
  A blink frog (shapeshifter) (D:27)
  A griffon simulacrum (Vault:3)
  A human (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  30 giant toads
  2 deep troll skeletons (D:19)
  A bumblebee (D:19)
  2 rock troll skeletons
  15 brown oozes
  15 deep elf conjurers
  3 grizzly bears
  2 giant fireflies (shapeshifter)
  A blink frog zombie (Crypt:4)
  4 vampires
  A draconian skeleton (Crypt:1)
  A red wasp simulacrum (D:21)
  A wyvern (Lair:5)
  3 vipers
  9 wraiths
  4 hungry ghosts
  94 yaks
  2 golden eyes (D:21)
  13 deep elf summoners
  A fire drake zombie (Crypt:2)
  4 neqoxecs
  3 sharks (D:11)
  2 elephant skeletons
  8 hippogriffs
  A viper (shapeshifter) (Vault:7)
  6 ghouls
  3 fire crab zombies
  A ynoxinul (Elf:5)
  A chaos spawn (D:9)
  47 vampire mosquitos
  34 war dogs
  A blink frog skeleton (D:22)
  22 deep elf fighters
  A gargoyle (D:17)
  A yaktaur zombie (D:19)
  3 giant slug zombies
  4 hell hounds
  3 rock worms
  4 fire drakes (Zot:4)
  6 mottled dragons
  A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
  3 yaktaur skeletons
  31 swamp worms
  3 cyclops zombies
  A mermaid skeleton (Crypt:1)
  5 sky beasts
  A rock troll simulacrum (D:15)
  4 soldier ants
  11 deep elf priests
  6 freezing wraiths
  A kobold demonologist (D:20)
  3 phantoms
  20 necrophages
  61 orc warriors
  9 giant goldfish
  2 red devils
  3 cyclops skeletons
  57 insubstantial wisps
  10 swamp drakes
  A yak zombie (Crypt:3)
  A queen bee zombie (Crypt:4)
  A troll skeleton (Crypt:4)
  25 ice beasts
  A troll zombie (Crypt:1)
  9 gila monsters
  A redback simulacrum (Vault:2)
  26 deep elf magi
  2 boring beetles
  A grizzly bear skeleton (Crypt:2)
  A hippogriff skeleton (Crypt:4)
  74 ogres
  61 nagas
  47 centaurs
  14 wargs
  9 crocodiles
  5 wolves (Lair:8)
  2 boulder beetle zombies
  A yak skeleton (D:14)
  A polar bear skeleton (Crypt:3)
  Duvessa (D:4)
  A war dog zombie (Crypt:2)
  4 big kobolds
  A water moccasin (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  A fire crab simulacrum (D:16)
  2 giant slugs (shapeshifter)
  30 giant frogs
  7 giant leeches
  4 brain worms
  A war dog skeleton (Crypt:2)
  13 giant slugs
  34 water moccasins
  A boring beetle zombie (Crypt:5)
  2 warg zombies
  An elf zombie (Crypt:4)
  A centaur skeleton (D:15)
  A giant frog zombie (Crypt:2)
  7 agate snails
  A two-headed ogre skeleton (Crypt:4)
  An eye of draining (D:21)
  8 boulder beetles
  189 killer bees
  17 jellyfish
  31 wights
  A brain worm zombie (Crypt:4)
  31 electric eels
  A gila monster zombie (Crypt:1)
  13 imps
  A gnome zombie (Crypt:3)
  4 goliath beetles
  16 hounds
  A mottled dragon zombie (Vault:3)
  33 orc priests
  Dowan (D:4)
  10 big fish
  2 quasits
  2 scorpions
  2 big kobold skeletons
  3 gila monster skeletons
  A kenku skeleton (Crypt:4)
  3 shadows
  A demigod skeleton (Crypt:3)
  A jelly (shapeshifter) (Vault:4)
  A demonspawn skeleton (Crypt:3)
  6 porcupines
  A hound skeleton (D:13)
  8 iguanas
  2 worker ant zombies
  40 deep elf soldiers
  24 orc wizards
  13 orange rats
  A naga skeleton (Crypt:3)
  32 sheep
  5 worker ants
  An orc zombie (Vault:8)
  65 jellies
  A steam dragon skeleton (Crypt:2)
  6 boggarts
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:14)
  11 mummies
  40 flying skulls
  13 gnolls
  51 snakes
  45 green rats
  2 scorpion zombies
  3 giant centipede zombies
  A lemure (Crypt:5)
  9 giant centipedes
  An iguana skeleton (Crypt:2)
  2 midges
  A porcupine zombie (Crypt:5)
  5 giant mites
  2 snake skeletons
  A shadow imp (Crypt:5)
  7 worms
  19 ufetubi
  12 grey rats
  3 giant eyeballs
  A megabat skeleton (Crypt:3)
  A megabat zombie (D:14)
  10 giant geckos
  A gnoll skeleton (Crypt:4)
  15 oozes (D:25)
  18 goblins
  22 hobgoblins
  35 jackals
  298 orcs
  14 quokkas
  13 giant cockroaches
  A giant cockroach zombie (Crypt:5)
  7 giant newts
  A giant newt simulacrum (Crypt:2)
  A giant newt skeleton (Crypt:5)
  A giant spore (D:10)
  3 goblin skeletons (Port)
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:8)
  34 killer bee larvae
  A killer bee larva zombie (Crypt:3)
  37 kobolds
  2 kobold skeletons
  A kobold zombie (Crypt:2)
  82 megabats
  4 orc skeletons
  2 quokka zombies
  42 rats
  12 rat skeletons
  A rat zombie (D:6)
  5 small snakes
  A small snake skeleton (Crypt:1)
  2 butterflies
  11 fungi
  16 plants
  152 toadstools
4163 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A vault guard (Vault:8)
  A dragon (Vault:7)
  An anaconda (Snake:5)
  An alligator (Swamp:1)
  A stone giant skeleton (Vault:4)
  A centaur warrior (Vault:4)
  2 hill giants (Vault:2)
  A cyclops (Vault:2)
  A spiny worm (Vault:4)
  A slime creature (Vault:2)
  A mimic (Vault:2)
  2 ugly things
  A naga mage (Snake:5)
  4 bog mummies
  2 two-headed ogres (Vault:3)
  2 baby alligators
  A blink frog (Lair:7)
  A giant toad (Vault:2)
  A yak (Vault:3)
  A swamp worm (Swamp:4)
  7 nagas
  An orc warrior (Vault:4)
  An ogre (Vault:3)
  A water moccasin (Snake:5)
  A killer bee (Vault:2)
  A mottled dragon zombie (Vault:3)
  A goliath beetle (D:11)
  A worker ant (D:11)
  2 sheep (Vault:4)
  3 snakes (Snake:5)
  2 orcs
  A kobold (Vault:3)
  A megabat (Swamp:4)
  A rat (Swamp:4)
  A butterfly (Vault:4)
52 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A draconian zealot (Zot:1)
  A pale draconian (Zot:1)
  A dragon (Zot:5)
  A death ooze (D:25)
  An anaconda skeleton (Crypt:5)
  A guardian serpent (Snake:2)
  25 slime creatures
  A brown ooze (D:25)
  A yak (D:18)
  A small abomination (Zot:4)
  47 ice beasts
  2 nagas (Snake:2)
  An ogre (Vault:4)
  A warg (D:25)
  A giant frog (D:6)
  A black bear skeleton (Crypt:5)
  A killer bee (Hive:2)
  A demonspawn zombie (Crypt:5)
  An ogre zombie (Crypt:5)
  2 spider zombies
  2 hounds
  2 jellies
  A gnoll zombie (Crypt:5)
  6 oozes (D:25)
  2 goblins
  3 hobgoblins
  A jackal (Lair:4)
  An orc (D:23)
  A quokka (D:25)
  A giant newt (D:3)
  A goblin skeleton (Port)
  A megabat (D:19)
  3 rats
  7 butterflies
  13 fungi
  4 plants
  625 toadstools
766 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 4981 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
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     0 | D:1     | Sjohara, the Merfolk Ice Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1     | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 3/3
   469 | D:1     | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
   515 | D:1     | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/16 MP: 2/4
  1203 | D:2     | Reached XP level 3. HP: 22/22 MP: 1/5
  1207 | D:2     | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  1565 | D:2     | Reached XP level 4. HP: 19/27 MP: 3/8
  2303 | D:3     | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
  2355 | D:3     | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms
  2649 | D:3     | Reached XP level 5. HP: 22/33 MP: 4/9
  3044 | D:2     | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  3323 | D:3     | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  3362 | D:3     | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
  3535 | D:3     | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4015 | D:3     | Reached XP level 6. HP: 35/38 MP: 10/11
  4288 | D:4     | Noticed Duvessa
  4684 | D:4     | Noticed Dowan
  4971 | D:5     | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5327 | D:5     | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
  5585 | D:5     | Reached XP level 7. HP: 45/45 MP: 10/14
  5674 | D:5     | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  6245 | D:5     | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  6876 | D:6     | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  6913 | ossuary | Entered a tomb
  7500 | ossuary | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
  7505 | ossuary | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  7633 | ossuary | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
  8574 | D:6     | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
  8581 | D:6     | Reached XP level 8. HP: 39/52 MP: 15/18
  9100 | D:6     | Found Sonnouv's Antique Armour Emporium.
  9106 | D:6     | Bought a bloodstained helmet for 247 gold pieces
  9110 | D:6     | Identified the +2 helmet "Zofioces" (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)
  9572 | D:7     | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 10285 | D:7     | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
 10294 | Temple  | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
 10584 | Temple  | Became a worshipper of Sif Muna the Loreminder
 10963 | D:8     | Found Firoapt's Armour Shop.
 10986 | D:8     | Bought a +0 cloak of preservation for 77 gold pieces
 11161 | D:8     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 62/62 MP: 11/19
 11161 | D:8     | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 11358 | D:8     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 11372 | D:8     | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
 11545 | D:8     | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
 11812 | Lair:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 11949 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 12134 | Lair:1  | Acquired Sif Muna's first power
 12363 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 8 in Ice Magic
 12380 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 13530 | Lair:2  | Reached skill level 9 in Ice Magic
 13573 | Lair:2  | Noticed Erica
 13610 | Lair:2  | Defeated Erica
 13610 | Lair:2  | Reached XP level 10. HP: 18/70 MP: 15/21
 13634 | Lair:2  | Acquired Sif Muna's second power
 14251 | Lair:2  | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic
 14845 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 11 in Ice Magic
 14929 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 5 spell: Summon Ice Beast
 15297 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 12 in Ice Magic
 15727 | Lair:2  | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 15731 | Lair:2  | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
 15786 | Lair:2  | Reached XP level 11. HP: 79/79 MP: 12/25
 16251 | Lair:3  | Acquired Sif Muna's third power
 16619 | Lair:3  | Reached skill level 13 in Ice Magic
 18092 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
 18157 | Lair:4  | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 20064 | Lair:4  | Reached XP level 12. HP: 68/90 MP: 19/27
 20317 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 20326 | Lair:4  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 20327 | Lair:4  | Got a torn book {god gift}
 20328 | Lair:4  | Identified Sif Muna's Grimoire of the Harmful Snowflakes {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 20335 | Lair:4  | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Cold
 20673 | Lair:4  | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 21003 | Lair:5  | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 22438 | Lair:5  | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 23174 | Lair:5  | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 23254 | Lair:6  | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 23696 | Lair:6  | Noticed Ssarisa's ghost (powerful NaTm)
 24565 | Lair:6  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 24582 | Lair:6  | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 24660 | Lair:6  | Defeated Ssarisa's ghost
 25178 | Lair:6  | Reached XP level 13. HP: 84/98 MP: 10/29
 26387 | Lair:6  | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 26625 | Lair:6  | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 26981 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 6 spell: Freezing Cloud
 28667 | Lair:7  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 28962 | Lair:7  | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 30605 | Lair:8  | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 31076 | Lair:8  | Reached skill level 14 in Ice Magic
 31774 | Lair:7  | Reached XP level 14. HP: 90/106 MP: 15/31
 33115 | Lair:7  | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 33373 | Lair:7  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 33374 | Lair:7  | Got a rare book {god gift}
 33375 | Lair:7  | Identified Sif Muna's Reference Book on Snow {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)
 34649 | Lair:8  | Got a glittering golden ring
 34650 | Lair:8  | Got a steaming chain mail
 34662 | Lair:8  | Identified the +0 chain mail of the Mutiny (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 35870 | Lair:8  | Reached skill level 15 in Ice Magic
 36431 | Lair:4  | Identified the ring of Sheonk {Str+1 Int+5} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 36486 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 37741 | Swamp:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 68/115 MP: 9/33
 38123 | D:6     | Bought a pair of fine boots for 214 gold pieces
 38127 | D:6     | Identified the +1 pair of boots of Midwinter (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 38530 | Swamp:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
 39965 | Swamp:1 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 39966 | Swamp:1 | Got a colourful book {god gift}
 39967 | Swamp:1 | Identified Rubludapt's Handbook of the Lethal Glacier {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Swamp)
 41283 | Swamp:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 41604 | Swamp:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Teleport
 42224 | Swamp:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 46174 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Aizul
 46198 | Swamp:4 | Defeated Aizul
 46390 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
 48552 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Jozef
 48559 | Swamp:4 | Defeated Jozef
 48789 | Swamp:4 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 118/118 MP: 30/35
 49307 | Swamp:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 49307 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Rupert
 49317 | Swamp:5 | Defeated Rupert
 49587 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Wiglaf
 51746 | Swamp:5 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 51751 | Swamp:5 | Got a droning book {god gift}
 51818 | Swamp:5 | Identified Sif Muna's Collected Works on Charms and Hexes {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 5 of the Swamp)
 52152 | Swamp:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 52840 | Swamp:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 53309 | Swamp:5 | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 54258 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 55054 | Snake:1 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 56553 | D:10    | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 58398 | D:11    | Noticed Sjohara's ghost (experienced MfTm)
 58418 | D:11    | Defeated Sjohara's ghost
 59014 | D:11    | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 59022 | Orc:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 59181 | Orc:1   | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 59935 | Orc:2   | You fall through a shaft!
 60013 | Orc:3   | Reached XP level 17. HP: 107/124 MP: 27/36
 60198 | Orc:4   | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 60646 | Orc:3   | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 60904 | Orc:3   | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 60915 | Orc:3   | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 60926 | Orc:3   | Noticed Roxanne
 61187 | Orc:3   | Defeated Roxanne
 61194 | Orc:3   | Got an antique book
 61196 | Orc:3   | Identified Roxanne's Compendium of Roxanne (You took it off Roxanne on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)
 61890 | Orc:2   | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 62243 | Orc:4   | Noticed Urug
 62249 | Orc:4   | Defeated Urug
 64490 | D:12    | Found a staircase to the Hive.
 65241 | D:12    | Noticed Nessos
 65258 | D:12    | Defeated Nessos
 66430 | D:12    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 66431 | D:12    | Got a levitating book {god gift}
 66432 | D:12    | Identified Sif Muna's Book of Blows and Bruises and Hexes {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 67829 | Hive:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Hive
 68026 | D:13    | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 68765 | D:14    | Reached skill level 10 in Polearms
 70825 | D:15    | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 72133 | D:15    | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 72295 | D:15    | Noticed Snorg
 72332 | D:15    | Defeated Snorg
 72683 | Vault:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 72710 | D:15    | Reached XP level 18. HP: 124/131 MP: 3/37
 72968 | Vault:1 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 72988 | Vault:1 | Got a colourful book {god gift}
 72998 | D:15    | Identified Pureeko's Disquisition on Charms {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Vaults)
 73143 | D:15    | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste
 73278 | Vault:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
 73682 | Vault:1 | Found Tryxam's Jewellery Emporium.
 74039 | Vault:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms
 76295 | Vault:2 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 76295 | Vault:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 76296 | Vault:2 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 76424 | Vault:2 | Noticed Louise
 78667 | Vault:2 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 78680 | Vault:2 | Noticed Agnes
 78685 | Vault:2 | Defeated Agnes
 78881 | Vault:2 | Defeated Louise
 79205 | Vault:3 | Noticed Frances
 79209 | Vault:3 | Defeated Frances
 79248 | Vault:3 | Found Roplead's Magic Scroll Emporium.
 79445 | Vault:3 | Found Rammuif's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 79476 | Vault:3 | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 79492 | Lab     | Entered a Labyrinth
 80339 | Lab     | Got an engraved book
 80339 | Lab     | Got a black book
 80339 | Lab     | Got a sparkling book
 80342 | Lab     | Identified the Volume of Confrontation and Air (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80342 | Lab     | Identified the Book of Hexes (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80342 | Lab     | Identified Vehumet's Book of Confrontation and Weightlessness (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80350 | Lab     | Got a pair of crude boots
 80355 | Lab     | Got an uncursed bloodstained hammer
 80358 | Lab     | Identified the hammer "Crepen" {freeze, +Inv rC++ rN+} (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80362 | Lab     | Identified the +5 pair of boots "Xoebyn" (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80384 | Lab     | Got a bloodstained great mace
 80390 | Lab     | Got a pitted splint mail
 80403 | Lab     | Identified the +2 splint mail of Ladders and Snakes (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80419 | Lab     | Got a heavily runed plate mail
 80432 | Lab     | Identified the +3 plate mail "Troreate" (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 80465 | Vault:3 | Identified the great mace "Oshrur" {freeze, rF+} (You took it off a minotaur in a Labyrinth)
 80817 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 5 spell: Ozocubu's Refrigeration
 80982 | Swamp:2 | Got a shimmering sling
 80983 | Swamp:2 | Identified the sling "Yshaneig" {frost, MUT Int+2 SInv} (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)
 81605 | Snake:2 | Noticed Nikola
 81619 | Snake:2 | Defeated Nikola
 81619 | Snake:2 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 113/137 MP: 15/38
 82858 | Snake:3 | Got a crude leather armour
 82876 | Snake:2 | Identified the cursed +1 leather armour of Light (You found it on level 3 of the Snake Pit)
 82957 | Snake:3 | Noticed Donald
 83163 | Snake:3 | Defeated Donald
 83326 | Snake:3 | Noticed Nergalle
 83383 | Snake:3 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 131/131 MP: 18/37
 83384 | Snake:3 | Defeated Nergalle
 83384 | Snake:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 126/137 MP: 19/38
 84981 | Snake:4 | Identified an uncursed rod of destruction [lightning,iron,fireball] (You found it on level 4 of the Snake Pit)
 85342 | Snake:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 85496 | Snake:5 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 85497 | Snake:5 | Got a torn book {god gift}
 85498 | Snake:5 | Identified Otel's Incunabulum of Charms and Changing {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 5 of the Snake Pit)
 87757 | Snake:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 87955 | Snake:5 | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 89321 | trove   | Entered a treasure trove
 89330 | trove   | Got a dazzling helmet
 89409 | trove   | Identified the +1 helmet of the Iron City of Dis (You found it in a treasure trove)
 89971 | Vault:3 | Bought a slimy dagger for 259 gold pieces
 89972 | Vault:3 | Identified the cursed dagger of Chagrin {drain, rF+ rC+} (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Vaults)
 90468 | Vault:3 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 91195 | Vault:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 92222 | Vault:4 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting
 92971 | Vault:4 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades.
 93039 | Vault:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
 93683 | Blade   | Entered the Hall of Blades
 93695 | Blade   | Reached XP level 20. HP: 124/144 MP: 29/39
 94848 | Vault:5 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 95617 | Vault:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 96609 | Blade   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 96614 | Blade   | Got a torn book {god gift}
 96615 | Blade   | Identified Miafyima's Catalogue of Charms {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you in the Hall of Blades)
 99965 | Blade   | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
100601 | Blade   | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations
101373 | Blade   | Reached XP level 21. HP: 144/154 MP: 13/40
102584 | Vault:4 | Noticed a glowing elven short sword
102585 | Vault:4 | Defeated a glowing elven short sword
104450 | Vault:7 | Found Uzutt's Distillery.
106075 | Vault:7 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting
106205 | Vault:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Vaults
106210 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 143/159 MP: 22/41
106261 | Vault:7 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
106297 | Vault:7 | Learned a level 5 spell: Lightning Bolt
106594 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 123/152 MP: 25/41
106601 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 123/159 MP: 11/41
106854 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 145/152 MP: 24/41
106860 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 132/159 MP: 6/41
107222 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 143/152 MP: 32/41
107434 | Vault:8 | Got a dazzling demon blade
107435 | Vault:8 | Identified the demon blade "Rium Bukuve" {drain, rElec rF+ Stlth++} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
108637 | Vault:8 | Got a glittering steel ring
108639 | Vault:8 | Got a twitching brass ring
108657 | Vault:8 | Got a transparent broad axe
108658 | Vault:8 | Identified the broad axe of Change {speed, rElec} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
108666 | Vault:8 | Identified the ring "Gaan" {Int+4} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
108984 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 159/159 MP: 18/41
109162 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 152/152 MP: 36/41
109498 | Vault:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
109628 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 151/159 MP: 41/41
110090 | Vault:8 | Noticed a guardian serpent
110090 | Vault:8 | A guardian serpent changed into a spriggan
110240 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 152/152 MP: 19/41
110246 | Vault:7 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 144/159 MP: 17/41
110661 | Vault:8 | Identified an uncursed rod of destruction [ice] (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
110856 | Vault:8 | A yaktaur changed into a guardian serpent
110858 | Vault:8 | Defeated a guardian serpent
110882 | Vault:8 | Identified the ring "Soes" {+Lev Str+5 Dex+3} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
111309 | Vault:4 | Noticed a deep elf mage
111311 | Vault:4 | Defeated a deep elf mage
111586 | Vault:8 | Noticed a pulsating lump
111586 | Vault:8 | A pulsating lump changed into a hill giant
111633 | Vault:8 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
111635 | Vault:8 | Got a blackened book {god gift}
111673 | Vault:7 | Identified Sif Muna's Tome of Attacks {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 8 of the Vaults)
112444 | Vault:8 | Noticed a bone dragon
112882 | Vault:7 | Defeated a bone dragon
113015 | Vault:8 | Got a rare book
113016 | Vault:8 | Identified the Compendium of Feathery Charms (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
113987 | Vault:8 | Got a transparent trident
113988 | Vault:8 | Identified the trident "Ebayjoy" {elec, +Rage rC+} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
113996 | Vault:8 | Got a silver rune of Zot
114002 | Vault:8 | Got a twisted splint mail
114016 | Vault:8 | Identified the cursed +1 splint mail of the Commoners (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
114447 | Vault:8 | Got a faintly glowing mace
114448 | Vault:8 | Identified the cursed mace of Pride {speed, +Blink +Inv rElec MR} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
114479 | Vault:8 | Got a colourful book
114480 | Vault:8 | Identified the Guide on Blistering Charms (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
114500 | Vault:8 | Got an uncursed steaming quarterstaff
114501 | Vault:8 | Identified the quarterstaff of Karma {speed, *Rage Dex+4} (You took it off a centaur warrior on level 8 of the Vaults)
114553 | Vault:8 | Got a crystal quick blade
114557 | Vault:8 | Identified the cursed quick blade "Caepeaca" {freeze, +Rage} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
114606 | Vault:8 | Got a warped bow
114607 | Vault:8 | Identified the cursed bow of Duoguh {speed, Noisy rF+ Dex+3 SInv} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
118406 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 6 spell: Deflect Missiles
119455 | D:17    | Noticed a gargoyle
119618 | D:17    | Defeated a gargoyle
119786 | D:17    | Found a frozen archway.
119791 | D:17    | Reached XP level 23. HP: 152/164 MP: 28/42
119815 | IceCv   | Entered an ice cave
121060 | D:18    | Found Ghautesh's Armour Emporium.
121092 | D:18    | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
121174 | D:18    | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting
122101 | D:19    | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
122324 | D:19    | Got a shimmering robe
122374 | D:19    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
122627 | D:19    | Identified the +3 robe of the Thunderstorm (You found it on level 19 of the Dungeon)
122726 | D:19    | Noticed a shadow dragon
122830 | D:19    | Noticed a deep elf sorcerer
122831 | D:19    | Defeated a deep elf sorcerer
122969 | D:19    | Gained mutation: You are agile (Dex +1).
122991 | D:19    | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat.
123356 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat.
123356 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
123356 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You are agile (Dex +1).
123367 | Lair:1  | Identified a scroll of acquirement
123368 | Lair:1  | Got a warped lead ring
123371 | Lair:1  | Identified the ring "Nahostut" {Int+1} (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
123879 | D:19    | Defeated a shadow dragon
124378 | D:19    | Got a glistering book {god gift}
124463 | D:19    | Noticed a shadow dragon
124472 | D:19    | Defeated a shadow dragon
125659 | D:20    | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
125700 | D:20    | Identified Sif Muna's Sophisticated Witchcraft {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 19 of the Dungeon)
126775 | Hive:2  | Entered Level 2 of the Hive
130308 | D:21    | Found a gateway to Hell.
130416 | D:21    | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
131593 | D:21    | Reached XP level 24. HP: 174/174 MP: 36/43
131789 | D:21    | Noticed a shining eye
133044 | D:22    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
133048 | D:22    | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
133393 | D:22    | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
133648 | D:22    | Noticed Boris
134057 | D:22    | Noticed Mennas
135370 | D:23    | Noticed a deep elf conjurer
135372 | D:23    | Defeated a deep elf conjurer
135475 | D:23    | Noticed a deep elf conjurer
135478 | D:23    | Defeated a deep elf conjurer
135719 | D:23    | Gained mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
136275 | D:23    | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
136768 | D:24    | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
138830 | D:25    | Entered Level 25 of the Dungeon
139482 | D:25    | Reached skill level 19 in Spellcasting
140703 | D:25    | Reached XP level 25. HP: 174/179 MP: 31/45
141199 | D:25    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
141209 | D:25    | Got an engraved book {god gift}
141210 | D:25    | Identified Nuh Det's Incunabulum of Twisted Creation {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 25 of the Dungeon)
142740 | D:26    | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
143682 | D:27    | Entered Level 27 of the Dungeon
143708 | D:27    | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
143913 | D:27    | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
143932 | bazaar  | Entered a bazaar
143940 | bazaar  | Found Shriseema's Magical Wand Shop.
143960 | bazaar  | Found Zegei's Book Shop.
144346 | D:27    | Noticed Frederick
144362 | D:27    | Defeated Frederick
144669 | D:27    | A yaktaur changed into a guardian serpent
144671 | D:27    | A guardian serpent changed into a troll
144700 | D:26    | You fall through a shaft!
144896 | D:27    | Reached XP level 26. HP: 141/183 MP: 7/45
145342 | D:23    | Noticed a deep elf conjurer
145363 | D:23    | Defeated a deep elf conjurer
146032 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 5 spell: Extension
146038 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 5 spell: Silence
146042 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
146869 | Crypt:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt
146903 | Crypt:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
147009 | Crypt:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
147386 | Crypt:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Spellcasting
147725 | Crypt:1 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
148376 | Crypt:2 | Found a staircase to the Tomb.
149292 | Crypt:3 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
149296 | Crypt:3 | Got an antique book {god gift}
149299 | Crypt:3 | Identified Sif Muna's Almanac of Confrontation and Sinister Arts {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 3 of the Crypt)
149512 | Crypt:4 | Noticed Mara
149518 | Crypt:4 | Noticed Sjohara's ghost (awesomely powerful MfIE)
149519 | Crypt:4 | Defeated Mara
149882 | Crypt:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
150066 | Crypt:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Crypt
150259 | Crypt:5 | Noticed a lich
150308 | Crypt:5 | Defeated a lich
150504 | Crypt:5 | Noticed an ancient lich
150624 | Crypt:5 | Defeated an ancient lich
150783 | Crypt:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Translocations
151306 | Crypt:5 | Noticed a lich
151404 | Crypt:5 | Gained mutation: You have a fast metabolism.
151424 | Crypt:5 | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP).
151793 | Crypt:5 | Defeated a lich
151953 | Crypt:5 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
153230 | Crypt:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
153633 | Crypt:5 | Noticed Khufu
154114 | Crypt:4 | Reached XP level 27. HP: 123/175 MP: 44/46
154519 | Crypt:3 | Noticed Saint Roka
154626 | Crypt:4 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
154950 | Crypt:3 | Defeated Saint Roka
154975 | Crypt:3 | Got a twitching silver ring
154978 | Crypt:3 | Identified the ring of Diedyf {Dex+3 Int+5} (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)
155894 | Elf:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
157433 | Elf:2   | Found Schaigi's Antique Weapon Emporium.
157499 | Elf:2   | Bought an encrusted whip for 165 gold pieces
157502 | Elf:2   | Identified the whip of Freehold {slash, rN+} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Elven Halls)
157506 | Elf:2   | Bought a shimmering bow for 178 gold pieces
157508 | Elf:2   | Identified the cursed bow of the Weasel {venom, rPois rC+ Str+2} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Elven Halls)
157513 | Elf:2   | Bought a twisted dire flail for 308 gold pieces
157519 | Elf:2   | Identified the cursed dire flail of Cruel Justice {pierce, SInv} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Elven Halls)
157851 | Elf:2   | Found Kapsoano's Magical Wand Shoppe.
158509 | Elf:3   | Got an iridescent hammer
158636 | Elf:3   | Noticed an orc priest
158638 | Elf:3   | Defeated an orc priest
158706 | Elf:3   | Identified the hammer "Unautweo" {flame, -CAST rElec rN+} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
158962 | Elf:3   | Got a twisted ring mail
158980 | Elf:3   | Identified the +2 ring mail "Raut" (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
159613 | Elf:4   | Found Ucepario's Armour Shoppe.
160045 | Elf:5   | Entered Level 5 of the Elven Halls
160441 | Elf:5   | Noticed a deep elf blademaster
160446 | Elf:5   | Noticed a deep elf master archer
160469 | Elf:4   | Defeated a deep elf blademaster
160665 | Elf:5   | Defeated a deep elf master archer
160830 | Elf:5   | Noticed a deep elf master archer
160835 | Elf:5   | Defeated a deep elf master archer
161259 | Elf:5   | Reached skill level 21 in Spellcasting
161416 | Elf:5   | Noticed a deep elf master archer
161474 | Elf:5   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
161476 | Elf:5   | Got a levitating book {god gift}
161477 | Elf:5   | Identified Sif Muna's Book of Creation {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 5 of the Elven Halls)
161602 | Elf:5   | Noticed a deep elf blademaster
161611 | Elf:5   | Defeated a deep elf blademaster
161613 | Elf:5   | Noticed a deep elf master archer
161623 | Elf:5   | Defeated a deep elf master archer
161843 | Elf:5   | Defeated a deep elf master archer
161998 | Elf:5   | Got a shimmering iron amulet
162001 | Elf:5   | Got a vibrating ivory amulet
162004 | Elf:5   | Got a sparkling bone ring
162013 | Elf:5   | Identified the amulet of Gosaq (You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)
162014 | Elf:5   | Identified the amulet of Strech (You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)
162015 | Elf:5   | Identified the ring of Shoodd (You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)
162017 | Elf:5   | Got a heavily runed platinum ring
162021 | Elf:5   | Identified the ring of Chyromu {Str+2} (You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)
162025 | Elf:5   | Got an antique book
162026 | Elf:5   | Identified the Handbook of the Compass (You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)
162034 | Elf:5   | Identified an uncursed rod of destruction [inacc,magma,cold] (You took it off a deep elf conjurer on level 5 of the Elven Halls)
162042 | Elf:5   | Got a flickering turquoise ring
162083 | Elf:5   | Got a levitating book
162084 | Elf:5   | Identified the Volume of the Kangaroo (You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)
162119 | Elf:5   | Identified the ring of Coward {Dex+2} (You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)
162140 | Elf:5   | Identified an uncursed rod of destruction [fire] (You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)
163433 | Elf:5   | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2).
163433 | Elf:5   | Lost mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
163433 | Elf:5   | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in colourless scales (AC +1).
163819 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 5 spell: Teleport Self
164521 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 5 spell: Summon Ice Beast
165892 | Zot:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot
166071 | Zot:1   | Got a pitted lapis lazuli ring
166074 | Zot:1   | Identified the ring "Twucson" {*TELE} (You acquired it on level 1 of the Realm of Zot)
167490 | Zot:1   | Learned a level 3 spell: Abjuration
167715 | Zot:1   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
167716 | Zot:1   | Got a sparkling book {god gift}
167717 | Zot:1   | Identified Sif Muna's Papyrus of Supportive Dark Arts {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Realm of Zot)
168870 | Zot:2   | Got a heavily runed robe
168904 | Zot:1   | Identified the +0 robe "Thuuguff" (You found it on level 2 of the Realm of Zot)
169133 | Zot:2   | Reached skill level 22 in Spellcasting
171030 | Zot:3   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
171031 | Zot:3   | Got a levitating book {god gift}
171032 | Zot:3   | Identified Sif Muna's Disquisition on Supportive Evil Secrets {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 3 of the Realm of Zot)
171108 | Zot:3   | Noticed an orb of fire
171108 | Zot:3   | Noticed an orb of fire
171110 | Zot:3   | Gained mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
171113 | Zot:3   | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
171114 | Zot:3   | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1).
171114 | Zot:3   | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
171867 | Zot:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
172163 | Zot:3   | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
172163 | Zot:3   | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your deformed body.
172164 | Zot:3   | Gained mutation: You are agile (Dex +1).
172668 | Zot:3   | Defeated an orb of fire
173297 | Zot:3   | Defeated an orb of fire
174675 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 4 spell: Alistair's Intoxication
176151 | Zot:4   | Reached skill level 23 in Spellcasting
176422 | Zot:3   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
176423 | Zot:3   | Got an antique book {god gift}
176424 | Zot:3   | Identified Sif Muna's Incunabulum of Stolen Souls {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 3 of the Realm of Zot)
176868 | Zot:4   | Noticed an orb of fire
177165 | Zot:4   | Defeated an orb of fire
178722 | Zot:4   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
178724 | Zot:4   | Got an engraved book {god gift}
178728 | Zot:4   | Identified Sif Muna's Reference Book on the Compass {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 4 of the Realm of Zot)
179946 | Zot:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy
181072 | Zot:4   | Reached skill level 24 in Spellcasting
181227 | Zot:5   | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot
182102 | Zot:5   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
182125 | Zot:5   | Learned a level 4 spell: Dispel Undead
182179 | Zot:5   | Gained mutation: You digest meat inefficiently.
182256 | Zot:5   | Got a smoking dagger
182257 | Zot:5   | Identified the dagger of Misery {freeze, rElec} (You found it on level 5 of the Realm of Zot)
183001 | Zot:5   | Noticed an orb of fire
183047 | Zot:5   | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is very low (-20% MP).
183074 | Zot:5   | Noticed an orb of fire
183372 | Zot:4   | Defeated an orb of fire
184134 | Zot:5   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
184135 | Zot:5   | Got a colourful book {god gift}
184136 | Zot:5   | Identified Sif Muna's Disquisition on Hexes {god gift} (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 5 of the Realm of Zot)
187176 | Zot:5   | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
187579 | Zot:5   | Noticed an orb of fire
187936 | Zot:4   | Defeated an orb of fire
188401 | Zot:4   | Gained mutation: You have a very fast metabolism.
188581 | Zot:5   | Noticed an ancient lich
188610 | Zot:5   | Defeated an ancient lich
188768 | Zot:5   | Noticed an orb of fire
188771 | Zot:5   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
188773 | Zot:5   | Noticed an ancient lich
188787 | Zot:5   | Defeated an ancient lich
188817 | Zot:5   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
188826 | Zot:5   | Noticed an ancient lich
188841 | Zot:5   | Gained mutation: You are dopey (Int -2).
188904 | Zot:4   | Defeated an orb of fire
189199 | Zot:5   | Defeated an ancient lich
189311 | Zot:5   | Reached skill level 25 in Spellcasting
190023 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 7 spell: Controlled Blink
190057 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You digest meat inefficiently.
190057 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You are agile (Dex +1).
190057 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You are frail (-10% HP).
190057 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: Your magical capacity is very low (-20% MP).
190058 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
190058 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You have a very fast metabolism.
190059 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You are weak (Str -1).
190059 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You are dopey (Int -2).
190059 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: You have a fast metabolism.
190059 | Lair:1  | Lost mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
191098 | Zot:5   | Got the Orb of Zot
191379 | D:18    | Noticed a lich
191383 | D:18    | Defeated a lich
191530 | D:13    | Noticed Opoemp the pandemonium lord
191733 | D:4     | Defeated Dowan
191740 | D:4     | Defeated Duvessa
191771 | D:3     | Noticed Pilat the pandemonium lord
191803 | D:1     | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your deformed body.
191803 | D:1     | Lost mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
191803 | D:1     | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
191804 | D:1     | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2).
191804 | D:1     | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in colourless scales (AC +1).
191806 | D:$     | Escaped with the Orb!
             


First ascension! Honestly, the whole second half of the game was much easier than I expected it would be. Even Orbs of Fire weren't too bad with rF+++, rMut, and Haste (though it took forever and it was bad news if anybody else showed up while we were slugging it out...especially the one time that something was a Curse Toe). Believe it or not, the place where I came close to death the most times was the Hall of Blades. I'd have died in there for sure if I didn't have Control Teleport. I needed to tough it out, though, because I was still using a lousy unbranded +0 +2 trident at the time (which I'd had all through the Swamp and Snake Pit, runes included). And I then proceeded to find my awesome artifact trident on Vault 8, naturally. The orb run was beyond trivial; I just did controlled teleports through all of the levels that I couldn't walk or dig through in a few steps. I killed maybe six things in all 27 floors, and two of them were Dowan and Duvessa.

One thing that this game really taught me is that Channel Energy is much, much better than I gave it credit for. I used to think it was useless because getting 1-2 mana per turn was too slow to be useful in combat and less efficient than resting out of combat, but once you get up to 10-12 Invocations the ability to see an enemy, duck around a corner, and fill up 75% of your mana bar before it catches you is invaluable. I'm really not sure what I would have done without it.

Another thing I learned is that Mennas is the worst. He has the honor of being one of three entities (not counting Pandemonium Lords) that I encountered but didn't kill, the others being Khufu and Boris (and I'm pretty sure I could have killed Boris easily; I just didn't see the sense in risking it). He taught me that Silence is very, very powerful, and also that I should probably never cast it just to be on the safe side (I had it in my spellbook, but was positive that I'd kill myself if I ever actually used it). I got to experience a fun little panic attack every time I passed through dungeon level 21 (which was often, because I never moved my stash from the Lair).

Contrary to KoboldLord's assertations, I don't think I could have handled the Hells with this character. Negative energy resistance didn't come very easily to me compared to fire and cold, and a single tormenting Curse Toe required a lot of fleeing upstairs to heal and an entire Wand of Healing to take down, so a place where spammed torments are the norm would not have been fun.

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Post Thursday, 10th February 2011, 01:12

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

Congratulations on the win! What's on your agenda next?

Sjohara wrote:Contrary to KoboldLord's assertations, I don't think I could have handled the Hells with this character. Negative energy resistance didn't come very easily to me compared to fire and cold, and a single tormenting Curse Toe required a lot of fleeing upstairs to heal and an entire Wand of Healing to take down, so a place where spammed torments are the norm would not have been fun.


Heh. Try it, and then tell me it's too dangerous to risk.

Torment is seriously overblown as a threat. There are five non-unique demons that can use it, and once you recognize these five at a glance you will immediately know whenever you are at risk of torment. Each of the four Hell branches thoroughly telegraph which ones you are going to face, so you can basically ignore whatever resistance isn't currently in-theme. If you face one of them, kill it before it gets a chance to do anything. If you face multiple torment-capable demons, just run away because you don't actually have to kill anything to get the loot at the bottom.

That Curse Toe you fought? Armor class FIFTY. An ice fiend, the most dangerous source of torment particularly to an ice elementalist? AC 15. Not really comparable defenses at all, at least without Dispel Undead to bypass that insane AC.

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Post Thursday, 10th February 2011, 03:21

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

Wait, Curse Toes are undead? That knowledge would have saved me a bit of trouble. I did wind up getting Dispel Undead from Sif Muna on Zot 3 or 4.

I haven't quite decided what to focus on next yet. Sludge Elf Transmuter (of Kikubaaqudgha, usually) is another old favorite of mine that I haven't gotten any runes with yet, and I've been trying to make High Elf Air Elementalists work lately too (the trick is surviving long enough for Vehumet or Sif Muna to give you a direct damage spell that doesn't suck, which is easier said than done). I've always been one to bounce around a lot, though.

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Post Thursday, 10th February 2011, 19:53

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

The issue there would be that Necromutation means no Blade Hands, and with no damage from Transmutation skill and demons being immune to most of the offensive potential of the Necromancy school, you're required to also have really good skill in Conjurations, plus whatever amount of Enchantment and Translocations you were going to need for defensive purposes. This character had 25 Spellcasting, 13 Conjurations, 14 Charms, and 18 Ice Magic (i.e. not nearly enough to cast a level 9 spell), and I was already finding it really difficult to branch into new schools. I dumped multiple maxed experience pools into Necromancy just in case I could get hit high enough for Bornjor's Regeneration and it still barely seemed to go anywhere. If I had focused all my experience into just the schools required to cast, say, Ice Storm, I'd have had no utility spells at all. People obviously do it, but I guess I'm just not sure where all the experience comes from.

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Post Thursday, 10th February 2011, 22:41

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

Oh wow, I didn't realize unarmed combat was so powerful at high levels. Lich Form's unarmed attack is barely stronger than a regular one and demons are immune to its draining brand, so I assumed that it would be really weak compared to the large bonus provided by Ice Form or Blade Hands. I guess the benefits from skill are so high that the base damage stops mattering too much after a while, though.
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Post Friday, 11th February 2011, 09:21

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

I'm not sure about that - it depends on the enemy (in my very limited experience).

Walking around as a Lich is great fun and the defensive side of it is handy, but I feel like I stomp my way through groups of Draconians (for example) faster as a Statue. This is a trunk build last updated yesterday morning.

(On the gripping hand, the Statue with rMut and rF+++ also went toe to toe with an Orb of Fire without too much trouble, so whoever was talking about later-game Transmuters being really powerful might have a point. I dunno, I've never got this far before :P)
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Post Friday, 11th February 2011, 15:36

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

For a 15-rune game with a transmuter I usually stay in lich form, unless I'm fighting a demon lord or any monster with dispel. Then, I'd switch to blade hands.

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Post Friday, 11th February 2011, 18:15

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

Why blade hands as opposed to a more strength-oriented transformation?

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Post Saturday, 12th February 2011, 00:51

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

Blade Hands has no relevant weaknesses. You get to keep nearly all of your armor slots, losing only gloves, so you can basically disregard the specific type of threat you're dealing with and any other pests that wander in. You will probably still have multiple pips of most resistances. Compare to the dragon form, which forces you to keep track of which enemies might have cold-branded attacks or Bolt of Cold, or the statue form, which is intrinsically slow and may take some time to respond to a bad summon.

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Post Saturday, 12th February 2011, 01:44

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

If Blade Hands still trashes your success rates, you need to victory dance your spell skills more. It might be a little tricky getting directly back into Necromutation, but Haste and Blink should not be an issue.

Using a more specialized form is, of course, going to be perfectly safe and effective, and if you ever had a reason to bother using it in the most optimal manner it would probably be the most efficient way to do it as well. But instead of spending a load of spell slots on Dragon Form, Statue Form, etc. you can just spend 5 spell slots on Blade Hands and mash the arrow keys to make everything die. It accomplishes everything you need in non-Necromutation forms (can kill everything, immune to Dispel Undead) without any significant drawback or opportunity cost.
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Post Saturday, 12th February 2011, 02:33

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

szanth wrote:Why blade hands as opposed to a more strength-oriented transformation?


Laziness. :P Blade Hands is powerful enough to kill Cerebov pretty quickly (I don't fight Antaeus at close range). And I start off with it, so I just use it. Statue form is ridiculously powerful, but I couldn't be bothered to grind for a few levels of earth magic.

Edit: I didn't think of using Statue Form until recently. After using it with my FeBe I prefer it over Blade Hands.

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Post Saturday, 12th February 2011, 02:46

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

minmay wrote:I'll join you in fairy land and say you can cast both Dragon Form and Necromutation. If you're fighting Cerebov in Dragon Form and he summons five Ice Fiends at once (or whatever it is he does, it's...uh...been a while since I last fought him directly), you can cast Necromutation right away and get torment and cold resistance.

Or you could just abjure them and then carry on destroying Cerebov with your insane dragonform damage output!

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Post Saturday, 12th February 2011, 02:54

Re: Looking for endgame advice.

minmay wrote:No offense intended, but I get the feeling that you've never actually used Statue Form.


I'm not sure why you're apparently trying to pick a fight. No, I've never bothered to pick up Statue Form because Blade Hands is single-school and a level lower, and there's nothing in the game that it won't kill. Nothing in the game.

Necromutation at least has some defensive merit, and shuts off your hunger clock. What does Statue Form bring to the table? Poison, electric, and negative energy resistance… at the cost of your boots, your body armor, your gloves… Did you not find a single randart armor with more than one pip of resistance in the entire game? You're surely coming out behind there, and we're not even figuring in the 15 base speed you get saddled with.

I'm sure there's some marginal uses out there for Statue Form, mostly involving worshipping Chei. Plus being a felid or troll or something, since you lose fewer slots with them. But that's not really relevant to the statement of mine that you were arguing against, which was meant to address the general case.

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