How dangerous is low int?


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Post Thursday, 3rd April 2014, 18:36

How dangerous is low int?

so, I am playing a DsBe of trog, and the loot is quite amazing. I found a pair of boots with +5dam, and Stlt++, but int -3.
now, trog gave me a vamp bastard sword with rN+ and int-4.
now my int is 2, using those.
how dangerous is to walk around with such low intelligence?
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Post Thursday, 3rd April 2014, 18:41

Re: How dangerous is low int?

You need to just be super careful around neqoxecs and things that summon them, and carry restore abilities. I'd consider using a ring of intelligence to get a little higher, but even without I'd use those items. As a Ds you might get more int from levelups, too.
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Post Thursday, 3rd April 2014, 18:41

Re: How dangerous is low int?

In most of the game it's not dangerous at all.

In the places where it *is* potentially dangerous (Abyss, Pan, places with brain worms (like that one lair ending)) what there is to do is if you get drained to 0 or less int, either cure it, or stop using the equipment giving you the penalty until you cure it.

Note however that getting drained to 0 or less is *nasty* and will screw you up for a while (even if you cure it right away)
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stat drain[2/4]: 0 str: Collapse: 1/4 regen rate, 1/2 carrying capacity. 0 int: Brainless: Can't memorize or cast spells or read tomes of Destruction. 80% chance of failure when reading scrolls. 0 dex: Clumsy: 0 stealth, minimal evasion, can't stab, can't block. All three effects halve speed (this stacks).

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Post Thursday, 3rd April 2014, 18:42

Re: How dangerous is low int?

Low intelligence causes most of my deaths.

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Post Thursday, 3rd April 2014, 18:46

Re: How dangerous is low int?

moocowmoocow wrote:Low intelligence causes most of my deaths.

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Post Thursday, 3rd April 2014, 19:54

Re: How dangerous is low int?

Everything Siegurt said should be heeded. There's no need to wear +Int jewelry, but you should considering keeping some on you to swap in case you need it. As Siegurt says, swap it preventatively, since the effects of < 1 stat linger for a while even if you rectify the situation immediately.
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Post Thursday, 3rd April 2014, 22:59

Re: How dangerous is low int?

thanks a lot, you guys ^^
I'll try not to die.
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Post Thursday, 3rd April 2014, 23:27

Re: How dangerous is low int?

I won with a 4 int MiBe yesterday, got brainless in the Lair end worm vault but didn't die, drank pot of restore abilities and all went fine. :D
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Post Thursday, 3rd April 2014, 23:37

Re: How dangerous is low int?

well, i died.
DAMN YOU, STATUE OF WUCAD MU!
I did not know it drained int.
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Post Friday, 4th April 2014, 00:21

Re: How dangerous is low int?

The Statue of Wucad Mu (also generic orange crystal statues) will drain your intelligence pretty quick regardless of whether you started with 2 or 20. They are not mostly harmless like neqoxecs and mind worms. Enter the line-of-sight of one of those statues pretty much only if you can kill it instantly. Sometimes you can try something cute if you have clarity and restore abilities on your person, but even that is limited to running past, and definitely not fighting it manually.
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Post Friday, 4th April 2014, 01:22

Re: How dangerous is low int?

now I know.
this is a mistake I'll not make again ^^
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Post Friday, 4th April 2014, 04:13

Re: How dangerous is low int?

Orange crystal statues can be insta-killed with a wand of disintegration. Just making that explicit for anyone not in the know.
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Post Friday, 4th April 2014, 14:31

Re: How dangerous is low int?

I had one. but I did not know wucad mu was actualy a orange crystal statue, I tought it was a statue that happened to be orange.
damn.
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Post Friday, 4th April 2014, 22:47

Re: How dangerous is low int?

Disintegration doesn't just insta-kill orange crystal statues. It insta-kills statues. It is very indiscriminant as long as your target is immobile and made of a mineral. (except maybe Roxanne? memory is hazy on this one)

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Post Friday, 4th April 2014, 22:53

Re: How dangerous is low int?

It does instakill orange and IIRC silver statues (the ones that summon demons). It doesn't instakill ice statues, archer statues, wizard statues, scorch-marked statues, lasher statues etc. It also obviously doesn't instakill Roxanne.

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Post Saturday, 5th April 2014, 12:10

Re: How dangerous is low int?

and I tought that it obviously did not instakill wucad mu.
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Post Saturday, 5th April 2014, 12:22

Re: How dangerous is low int?

Hirsch I wrote:and I tought that it obviously did not instakill wucad mu.


CrawllWiki rulez again: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Wucad_Mu%27s_Monastery

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Post Sunday, 6th April 2014, 11:14

Re: How dangerous is low int?

Sar wrote:It does instakill orange and IIRC silver statues (the ones that summon demons). It doesn't instakill ice statues, archer statues, wizard statues, scorch-marked statues, lasher statues etc. It also obviously doesn't instakill Roxanne.


GDD: Make wand of disintegration consistent (I'll give Roxanne because interesting unique, but the rest have no right to survive a hit)

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Post Sunday, 6th April 2014, 11:24

Re: How dangerous is low int?

I don't think that "you have item X, now you can instakill a type of enemies" is a very interesting mechanic. A case can be made for statues being uninteresting enemies in general, but I like ice statues in ice caves.

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Post Sunday, 6th April 2014, 15:27

Re: How dangerous is low int?

Magipi wrote:
Hirsch I wrote:and I tought that it obviously did not instakill wucad mu.


CrawllWiki rulez again: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Wucad_Mu%27s_Monastery

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Well, I would not count on it being right.
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