Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?


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Post Thursday, 26th December 2013, 21:54

Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

I was wanting to make a character that specialized only in using hexes and charms, just for the fun of it. Obviously, one big spell that I should consider is Tukima's dance, a spell I haven't spent a whole lot of time using.

Basically what I was wondering was, what is the best way to utilize this spell? What kinds of applications may I have missed? From what I can tell, you would just want to use powerful bardiches and executioners axes as your allies, and thats about it.
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Post Thursday, 26th December 2013, 22:06

Re: Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

Pick up every dire flail and make it dance, then haste it.

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Post Thursday, 26th December 2013, 22:08

Re: Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

Also good: great swords, lajatangs, halberds, glaives.

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Post Thursday, 26th December 2013, 22:10

Re: Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

What does spellpower for TD affect again? I keep forgetting to check.

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Post Thursday, 26th December 2013, 22:41

Re: Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

It makes the weapons not suck.

More speed definitely, probably more hd and damage.

The stats %?? gives you for dancing weapons are enemy ones which are high power tukima.

Since it's a level 5 spell now it's not that big a deal (you'll have at worst decently good spellpower if you can cast it at all reliably).

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Post Thursday, 26th December 2013, 23:51

Re: Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

I made an ogre worshipping oka specifically to abuse this a while ago and it was pretty underwhelming even with haste and randart spiked clubs. They were slow even with haste, although they did soak a lot of damage.

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Post Friday, 27th December 2013, 00:00

Re: Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

iirc the damage output depends on weapon weight so get all those heavy weapons and make them kill dudes

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Post Friday, 27th December 2013, 00:08

Re: Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

headcrab0803 wrote:iirc the damage output depends on weapon weight so get all those heavy weapons and make them kill dudes

The damage depends on the weapon damage (similarly the weapon's speed depends on the weapon's speed); the weapon's hp, however, does depend on weight. So demon whips are surprisingly worthless (they have no hp) but demon tridents and demon blades are good if you happen to find them.

Giant (spiked) clubs are worse than you'd expect with tukima ... generally the midrange weapons that dck and I listed earlier are the best choices (plus the demon weapons in this post, but I neglected those since they're not common).

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Post Friday, 27th December 2013, 01:58

Re: Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

  Code:
speed   = 30 - delay;
ev      = 25 - delay / 2;
ac      = mass / 10;
damage  = 2 * damg;
max_hp  = mass / 5;

speed = max(3, speed - (10 - power / 10));
ev    = max(3, ev    - (10 - power / 10));
ac = ac * power / 100;
max_hp = max(5, max_hp * power / 100);
damage = max(1, damage * power / 100);

So for example a dancing dark maul is basically an elephant slug zombie.
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Post Saturday, 28th December 2013, 22:32

Re: Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

duvessa wrote:
  Code:
speed   = 30 - delay;
ev      = 25 - delay / 2;
ac      = mass / 10;
damage  = 2 * damg;
max_hp  = mass / 5;

speed = max(3, speed - (10 - power / 10));
ev    = max(3, ev    - (10 - power / 10));
ac = ac * power / 100;
max_hp = max(5, max_hp * power / 100);
damage = max(1, damage * power / 100);

So for example a dancing dark maul is basically an elephant slug zombie.


So completely worthless?
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Post Saturday, 28th December 2013, 22:57

Re: Best way to utilize Tukima's dance?

Yes. Well, it can do over 100 damage if it actually manages to hit something, but it is incredibly rare for that to happen.

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