[REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips


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Post Tuesday, 24th December 2013, 12:55

[REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

I tried to play SpAr of Nemelex with cutlass, a lot of evocations and stealth and cards.
Clear Dungeon to 15 and Lair. Died to executioner which was summoned by some card from a deck of wonders.
Please give me some tips for my future SpArs. What decks should I choose? Should Ifocus on Evocations or good stealth is a priority?
I found that dungeon deck is not that useful and escape one too. They are better be stackfived and used in special cases.
Summoning can save me from hard situation and Destruction is devil!
Wonders is quite strange deck. Experience is cool, but you whould avoid Shuffle. Focus wil often be bad and Helix is generally good at power 2. Should be stackfived/IDed every time you find that deck.

Am I missing something?

my last run
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-1613-gd720e3e (webtiles) character file.

210737 Ololoev the Fetichist (level 18, -11/96 HPs)
             Began as a Spriggan Artificer on Dec 24, 2013.
             Was the Champion of Nemelex Xobeh.
             Mangled by an Executioner (18 damage)
             ... created by a card of wild magic
             ... in an ice cave.
             The game lasted 04:49:19 (41499 turns).

Ololoev the Fetichist (Spriggan Artificer)         Turns: 41499, Time: 04:49:19

HP -11/96        AC 10     Str 11      XL: 18   Next: 55%
MP  39/39        EV 36     Int 17 (19) God: Nemelex Xobeh [******]
Gold 591         SH 17     Dex 22 (23) Spells:  4 memorised, 17 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis +     z - +2,+5 cutlass (freeze)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  +     E - +2 robe of the Shore {rF++ Str+2}
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     y - -1 buckler
rPois  .         rCorr    .     (helmet restricted)
rElec  .         rRot     .     x - +1 cloak
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     (gloves unavailable)
rMut   .         Warding  .     (boots unavailable)
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     N - amulet of clarity
                                b - ring "Viggoa Geja" {MR Str+1 Int+5}
                                M - +4 ring of protection

@: invisible, sage [Throwing, Air Magic, Dodging, Spellcasting, Bows, Staves],
very slightly contaminated, very quick, extraordinarily resistant to hostile
enchantments, incredibly stealthy
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2
a: Draw One, Peek at Two, Triple Draw, Deal Four, Stack Five, Renounce Religion


You were in an ice cave.
You worshipped Nemelex Xobeh.
Nemelex Xobeh was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and saw 25 of its levels.
You also visited: Sewer, Bailey, Ice Cave and Volcano.

You collected 1368 gold pieces.
You spent 607 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 q - a +0 blowgun
 z - a +2,+5 cutlass of freezing (weapon)
Missiles
 H - 3 needles of frenzy
 K - 15 poisoned needles
Armour
 c - a +2 robe of cold resistance
 x - a +1 cloak (worn)
 y - a -1 buckler (worn)
 E - the +2 robe of the Shore (worn) {rF++ Str+2}
   (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
Magical devices
 k - a wand of slowing (3)
 s - a wand of cold (0)
 P - a wand of fire (0)
Comestibles
 B - 2 bread rations
Scrolls
 a - 3 scrolls of amnesia
 d - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 e - 2 scrolls of fear
 g - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 t - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 v - a scroll of enchant weapon I
 A - 2 scrolls of silence
 C - a scroll of fog
 G - a scroll of identify
Jewellery
 b - the ring "Viggoa Geja" (right hand) {MR Str+1 Int+5}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   It affects your strength (+1).
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
 j - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
 n - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 r - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 J - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 M - a +4 ring of protection (left hand)
 N - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
Potions
 f - a potion of porridge
 h - 3 potions of brilliance
 l - 5 potions of restore abilities
 p - 2 potions of flight
 w - 3 potions of curing
 L - a potion of speed
Miscellaneous
 F - an ornate deck of wonders {drawn: 4}


   Skills:
 - Level 11.0 Fighting
 - Level 11.0 Short Blades
   Level 3.3 Staves
   Level 3.4 Bows
 - Level 3.0 Throwing
 + Level 17.9 Dodging
 + Level 19.4 Stealth
 - Level 6.4 Shields
 - Level 5.1 Spellcasting
   Level 2.2 Conjurations
   Level 3.1 Hexes
 - Level 7.0 Charms
 - Level 3.4 Air Magic
 + Level 20.1 Evocations


You had 17 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Stoneskin             Trmt/Erth      #.........   24%         2    #......
b - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ###.......   12%         3    ###....
c - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ###.......   2%          2    #......
d - Flight                Chrm/Air       ###.......   6%          3    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (0/4) D:12
   Lair (8/8) D:10         Shoals (0/5) Lair:3       Spider (0/5) Lair:4
  Slime (0/6) Lair:6       Vaults (0/5) D:14         Depths (0/6) D:16

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:14 }   D:15 !

Annotations:
D:8 Edmund
Lair:2 exclusion: orange crystal statue
Lair:3 exclusion: silver statue
Lair:8 exclusion: silver statue


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.


Message History

* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The Executioner hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The Executioner completely misses you.
Your draconian simulacrum misses the Executioner.
Your ice devil barely misses the Executioner.
The Executioner barely misses you. You block the Executioner's attack.
The Executioner completely misses you.
The Executioner completely misses you. The Executioner hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The Executioner completely misses you.
The Executioner misses you. You block the Executioner's attack.
The Executioner completely misses you. You block the Executioner's attack.
The Executioner completely misses you. The Executioner hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Your ice devil closely misses the Executioner.
Your draconian simulacrum completely misses the Executioner.
The Executioner hits you!
You die...
Your body glows with a rainbow of weird colours and disappears.

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You could see an Executioner, a friendly ice devil and a friendly draconian
simulacrum.

Vanquished Creatures
  An orc warlord (D:13)
  4 vault guards (D:14)
  An ice dragon (D:16)
  Josephine (D:16)
  7 hydras
  The ghost of wojtek the Basher, a powerful TeGl of Makhleb (Lair:3)
  8 death yaks
  2 very ugly things
  A catoblepas (Lair:8)
  A deep troll shaman (Lair:8)
  A fire crab (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  A rakshasa (D:16)
  4 centaur warriors
  2 skeletal warriors (D:14)
  2 unseen horrors
  A giant orange brain (D:16)
  11 hill giants
  A wolf spider zombie (D:16)
  A lindwurm (Lair:8)
  Joseph (D:8)
  An oklob plant (D:13)
  2 cyclopes
  A red wasp (D:8)
  2 griffons
  11 slime creatures
  6 elephants
  A guardian serpent (D:9)
  A frost giant skeleton (D:16)
  3 yaktaurs (D:16)
  4 black mambas
  A feature mimic (Lair:3)
  Psyche (D:8)
  2 efreet
  13 spiny frogs
  2 fire drakes
  6 komodo dragons
  A jumping spider (Lair:3)
  A wind drake (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  5 trolls
  24 blink frogs
  3 boulder beetles
  A two-headed ogre (D:13)
  2 hydra skeletons
  A snapping turtle (Lair:3)
  17 ugly things
  A formicid (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  An ice dragon skeleton (D:16)
  A tarantella (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  2 trapdoor spiders
  4 redbacks (Lair:7)
  8 basilisks
  A griffon skeleton (D:15)
  7 hippogriffs
  A wraith (D:16)
  3 sharks (Lair:3)
  Eustachio (D:4)
  3 fire bats (Volcano)
  3 elephant slugs
  2 shadows
  3 hungry ghosts
  35 yaks
  14 wolves
  9 vampire mosquitoes
  A necrophage (D:10)
  2 mottled dragons
  A manticore (D:8)
  12 porcupines
  A swamp drake (D:12)
  10 orc warriors
  4 giant goldfish
  3 ice beasts
  4 sky beasts
  2 black bears (Lair:8)
  3 phantoms (D:14)
  A boring beetle (Lair:6)
  A yellow wasp (D:14)
  13 centaurs
  11 crocodiles
  8 ogres
  4 big kobolds
  6 giant slugs
  A giant slug zombie (D:16)
  2 gnoll sergeants
  2 lava worms (D:14)
  17 agate snails
  17 giant frogs
  9 water moccasins
  3 insubstantial wisps (D:15)
  A cyclops zombie (D:10)
  An earth elemental (Volcano)
  A cyclops skeleton (D:12)
  2 eyes of draining
  2 jellyfish (Lair:3)
  4 killer bees (D:13)
  10 lava fish (Volcano)
  A troll skeleton (D:10)
  7 wights
  7 lava snakes
  5 electric eels
  A big fish (D:7)
  A giant frog zombie (D:11)
  4 crimson imps
  A quasit (D:6)
  6 orc priests
  A goliath beetle (D:14)
  15 jellies
  8 iguanas
  15 hounds
  15 orc wizards
  9 spiders
  An orange rat (D:8)
  5 scorpions
  10 worker ants
  A brain worm zombie (D:16)
  10 sheep
  Ijyb (D:7)
  2 ogre skeletons
  12 gnolls
  34 adders
  41 green rats
  A lemure (Lair:3)
  A worm zombie (D:9)
  3 giant mites
  5 giant centipedes
  An inept feature mimic (D:10)
  4 worms
  2 iguana zombies (D:6)
  A scorpion zombie (D:5)
  18 grey rats
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  7 giant eyeballs
  2 oozes
  67 orcs
  20 bats
  3 giant cockroaches
  8 goblins
  13 hobgoblins
  8 quokkas
  7 ball pythons
  4 giant geckos
  A giant gecko zombie (D:6)
  5 giant newts
  4 giant spores
  A goblin zombie (D:5)
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5)
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:6)
  10 jackals
  28 kobolds
  An orc skeleton (D:4)
  A quokka zombie (D:6)
  28 rats
  13 ballistomycetes
  A bush (Lair:8)
  A fungus (Lair:8)
  4 plants
911 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Maud (D:16)
  A hydra (Lair:5)
  A centaur warrior (D:16)
  A hill giant (D:15)
  2 cyclopes (D:16)
  5 red wasps
  4 elephants (Lair:6)
  A spiny frog (Lair:1)
  A mermaid (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  2 giant fireflies
  3 blink frogs
  7 slime creatures
  2 ugly things (D:16)
  A yak (Lair:2)
  5 vampire mosquitoes
  A manticore (D:16)
  3 wolves
  A porcupine (Lair:1)
  A sky beast (D:9)
  9 orc warriors
  2 yellow wasps
  2 centaurs (D:16)
  2 water moccasins
  A big kobold (D:9)
  An agate snail (Lair:1)
  A wyvern zombie (D:10)
  2 giant frogs
  A cyclops skeleton (D:10)
  An eye of draining (D:13)
  2 jellies (D:9)
  3 killer bees (D:10)
  7 wights
  A goliath beetle (D:10)
  An electric eel (Lair:3)
  A basilisk zombie (D:16)
  5 spiders (D:13)
  2 orc priests
  An orc wizard (D:9)
  An iguana (Lair:6)
  2 sheep (D:16)
  A green rat (Sewer)
  3 grey rats (Sewer)
  17 orcs
  A hobgoblin (D:10)
  A quokka (D:4)
  A bat (D:9)
  A giant cockroach (D:6)
  6 kobolds (Sewer)
122 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 dancing weapons
  A skeletal warrior (D:16)
  A soul eater (Lair:5)
  3 red wasps
  A spiny frog (D:16)
  A polar bear (D:15)
  3 giant fireflies (Lair:6)
  A hog (D:15)
  A neqoxec (D:16)
  An ugly thing (Lair:3)
  4 wolves
  A hippogriff (Bailey)
  A black bear (D:15)
  10 yellow wasps
  A boring beetle (D:16)
  An insubstantial wisp (D:16)
  3 agate snails
  An eye of draining (D:13)
  A hound (D:15)
  3 sheep (D:16)
  A wolf simulacrum (IceCv)
  4 giant spores
  11 ballistomycetes (D:14)
  8 fungi (Lair:8)
  2 plants
67 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1100 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Ololoev, the Spriggan Artificer, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 2/2
   313 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 12/14 MP: 5/5
   981 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 7/17 MP: 8/8
  1128 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  1386 | D:2      | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth
  1430 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 18/21 MP: 10/10
  2069 | D:3      | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth
  2250 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  2261 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  2510 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 5. HP: 25/25 MP: 13/13
  3189 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
  3447 | Sewer    | Noticed a big kobold
  3488 | Sewer    | Killed a big kobold
  3488 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
  3488 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 6. HP: 9/29 MP: 17/17
  4185 | Sewer    | Noticed a big kobold
  4303 | Sewer    | Killed a big kobold
  5371 | D:4      | Noticed Eustachio
  5489 | D:4      | Eustachio (ally) was killed
  5489 | D:4      | Your ally  died
  5489 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  5489 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 27/32 MP: 19/19
  5821 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5830 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5919 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh
  5953 | D:4      | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  5967 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Evocations
  6103 | D:4      | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's first power
  6125 | D:4      | Reached skill level 9 in Evocations
  6292 | D:3      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  6292 | D:3      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  6294 | D:3      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  6339 | D:4      | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's second power
  6343 | D:4      | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  6395 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 37/37 MP: 21/23
  6442 | D:4      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  6449 | D:4      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  6462 | D:4      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  6524 | D:4      | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
  7059 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  7176 | D:5      | Reached skill level 11 in Evocations
  7189 | D:5      | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's third power
  7253 | D:5      | Got a glittering copper ring
  7359 | D:5      | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  7537 | D:5      | Learned a level 1 spell: Confusing Touch
  7872 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Hexes
  8001 | D:6      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  8011 | D:6      | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's fourth power
  8767 | D:6      | Reached skill level 12 in Evocations
  8767 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 40/40 MP: 27/27
  9054 | D:7      | Noticed Ijyb
  9066 | D:7      | Killed Ijyb
  9202 | D:7      | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  9253 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
  9558 | D:7      | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
  9614 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 10038 | D:7      | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 10310 | D:8      | Noticed Joseph
 10311 | D:8      | Killed Joseph
 10311 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 10325 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
 10328 | D:8      | Killed Psyche
 10365 | D:8      | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's fifth power
 10524 | D:8      | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth
 10671 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 36/44 MP: 28/28
 10680 | D:8      | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 10999 | D:8      | Noticed Edmund
 11071 | D:8      | Noticed a red wasp
 11071 | D:8      | Noticed a red wasp
 11081 | D:8      | Killed a red wasp
 11083 | D:8      | Killed a red wasp
 11307 | D:8      | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 11364 | D:8      | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 12117 | D:9      | Identified the cursed ring "Viggoa Geja" {MR Str+1 Int+5} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
 12170 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
 12295 | D:9      | Noticed a guardian serpent
 12298 | D:9      | Killed a guardian serpent
 12364 | D:9      | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 12521 | D:9      | Reached skill level 14 in Evocations
 12567 | D:9      | Found a flagged portal.
 12588 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 12747 | Bailey   | Noticed a red wasp
 12747 | Bailey   | Noticed a red wasp
 12747 | Bailey   | Noticed a red wasp
 12748 | Bailey   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 12748 | Bailey   | Paralysed by a red wasp for 1 turns
 12749 | Bailey   | Noticed a red wasp
 12749 | Bailey   | Paralysed by a red wasp for 2 turns
 12750 | Bailey   | Killed a red wasp
 12750 | Bailey   | Killed a red wasp
 12751 | Bailey   | Killed a red wasp
 12753 | Bailey   | Killed a red wasp
 13372 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 13373 | D:10     | Noticed a bone dragon
 13579 | D:10     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 13759 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 13794 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 13794 | D:10     | Reached skill level 15 in Evocations
 14425 | D:10     | Margery: не получишь пити за мелочь
 14455 | D:10     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 14463 | D:10     | Reached skill level 16 in Evocations
 14521 | D:10     | Margery: пиздец ты отважен, с 16 хп маячить перед пристом. у него же смайт d20
 14904 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 15153 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 15176 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 15176 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 48/48 MP: 31/31
 15183 | Lair:1   | Ololoev: я не отважен, я бешенен
 15334 | Lair:1   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 15355 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 15356 | Lair:1   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 16549 | Lair:2   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 16564 | Lair:2   | Margery: нашел тоже что попросить
 16566 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 17 in Evocations
 16571 | Lair:2   | Ololoev: f xnj yflj ,skj&
 16571 | Lair:2   | Margery: оружие надо былор
 16571 | Lair:2   | Ololoev: а что надло было?
 16571 | Lair:2   | Ololoev: ну как вариант
 16924 | Lair:2   | Margery: если ты хочешь много стабать, то надо качать ножи до 14 и инвиз до упора
 17019 | Lair:2   | Margery: и надеяться на шмотку/кольцо с невидимостью
 17144 | Lair:2   | Margery: комодо может ваншотнуть
 17232 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 17406 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 2 spell: Stoneskin
 18105 | Lair:2   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 18159 | Lair:2   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 18330 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 18789 | Lair:3   | Noticed wojtek's ghost (powerful TeGl)
 18797 | Lair:3   | Killed wojtek's ghost
 18797 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 18 in Evocations
 18917 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 19138 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 34/52 MP: 29/33
 19556 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 19613 | Lair:3   | Found a dark tunnel.
 19627 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 20024 | Volcano  | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
 20284 | Volcano  | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 20317 | Volcano  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 20329 | Volcano  | XOM: give mutations
 20329 | Volcano  | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [Xom's mischief]
 20329 | Volcano  | Gained mutation: Your flesh is heat resistant. [Xom's mischief]
 20341 | Volcano  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 20553 | Volcano  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 20646 | Volcano  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 21092 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 21214 | Lair:3   | the hole to the Spider Nest was a mimic.
 21604 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
 21604 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 57/66 MP: 28/34
 21605 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 21605 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 60/77 MP: 29/36
 21656 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 21764 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 81/81 MP: 36/36
 21959 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 21963 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight
 22263 | Lair:4   | Upgraded the game from 0.14-a0-1590-g25a9b7f to 0.14-a0-1613-gd720e3e
 22504 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 22698 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
 23684 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 1 in Staves
 23919 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 24163 | Lair:5   | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
 24335 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 24744 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 25433 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 25812 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 25896 | Lair:6   | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors!
 25896 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 26558 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 19 in Evocations
 26561 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
 27145 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 28230 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 28534 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 28545 | Lair:7   | You fall through a shaft!
 28588 | Lair:8   | Lost mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [helix card]
 28588 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [helix card]
 28607 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [mutagenic glow]
 28627 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating. [mutagenic glow]
 28667 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: Your body is deteriorating. [mutagenic glow]
 28668 | Lair:8   | Lost mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [potion of cure mutation]
 28668 | Lair:8   | Lost mutation: Your body is deteriorating. [potion of cure mutation]
 28668 | Lair:8   | Lost mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating. [potion of cure mutation]
 28668 | Lair:8   | Lost mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [potion of cure mutation]
 28668 | Lair:8   | Lost mutation: Your flesh is heat resistant. [potion of cure mutation]
 28728 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [mutagenic glow]
 28752 | Lair:8   | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 2 turns
 28782 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: You can breathe flames. [potion of mutation]
 28782 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: You are resistant to hostile enchantments. [potion of mutation]
 28782 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating. [potion of mutation]
 29027 | Lair:8   | HP: 3/73 [death yak (12)]
 29658 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 30469 | Lair:8   | Got a crude blowgun
 30470 | Lair:8   | Identified the cursed -2 blowgun of Moderation {evade, Str+1 Dex+2} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 30474 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 32123 | D:11     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 32127 | D:11     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 78/78 MP: 38/38
 32132 | D:11     | Reached XP level 17. HP: 81/81 MP: 33/38
 32425 | D:11     | Got a faintly humming robe
 32432 | D:11     | Identified the cursed +2 robe of the Shore {rF++ Str+2} (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 32682 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 33056 | D:12     | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 33745 | D:13     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 34324 | D:13     | Got a slimy robe
 34641 | D:12     | Identified the +0 robe "Siatt" {+Rage Acc+5 Stlth++} (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 34762 | D:13     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 35313 | D:13     | Reached XP level 18. HP: 86/86 MP: 39/39
 35398 | D:13     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 35907 | D:13     | Reached skill level 1 in Bows
 35965 | D:14     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 36208 | D:13     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 36443 | D:14     | Found Majul's Gadget Emporium.
 36453 | D:14     | Bought a plain deck of war for 525 gold pieces
 36478 | D:14     | Lost mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [potion of cure mutation]
 36478 | D:14     | Lost mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating. [potion of cure mutation]
 36478 | D:14     | Lost mutation: You can breathe flames. [potion of cure mutation]
 36478 | D:14     | Lost mutation: You are resistant to hostile enchantments. [potion of cure mutation]
 36528 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 36595 | D:14     | HP: 1/96 [shot self (95)]
 36621 | D:14     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 37022 | D:14     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 37245 | D:14     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 37634 | D:14     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 38548 | D:14     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 38927 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 39870 | D:15     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 40078 | D:15     | Found Seimaah's Distillery.
 40083 | D:15     | Bought a potion of speed for 82 gold pieces
 40428 | D:15     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 40456 | D:16     | Entered Level 16 of the Dungeon
 40540 | D:16     | Noticed Josephine
 40548 | D:16     | Killed Josephine
 40548 | D:16     | Reached skill level 20 in Evocations
 40568 | D:16     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 40820 | D:16     | Noticed Maud
 40825 | D:16     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 40925 | D:16     | Killed Maud
 40925 | D:16     | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 41048 | D:16     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 41054 | D:16     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 41336 | D:16     | Found a frozen archway.
 41350 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 41499 | IceCv    | Mangled by an Executioner


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    99 |   214 |    15 |       |       |       ||   328
       Cutlass           |       |       |   296 |   797 |  1438 |  1265 ||  3796
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |     3 |    36 ||    39
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |       |    95 |    76 |    69 |    25 ||   265
Throw: Throwing net      |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
 Cast: Confusing Touch   |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Regeneration      |       |       |       |     7 |     5 |     3 ||    15
Invok: Draw One          |       |       |     1 |     9 |     3 |    14 ||    27
       Stack Five        |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |     3 ||     6
       Deal Four         |       |       |       |       |     1 |     4 ||     5
 Abil: Breathe Fire      |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |     2 |    42 |     1 |    24 |    11 |    24 ||   104
       Deck              |       |       |    27 |   101 |    74 |    95 ||   297
  Use: Potion            |     1 |       |       |     9 |    11 |    10 ||    31
       Scroll            |       |    10 |     4 |    15 |    16 |    11 ||    56
 Stab: Sleeping          |     7 |    13 |    27 |    33 |    57 |    23 ||   160
       Betrayed ally     |       |     2 |       |       |       |     1 ||     3
       Distracted        |       |     2 |     4 |     5 |     9 |    13 ||    33
       Paralysed         |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Held in net/web   |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Invisible         |       |       |       |       |       |     6 ||     6
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Post Tuesday, 24th December 2013, 13:22

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

before Sar gets here, put dumps in Code tags instead of spoiler tags.
if you want a stabber of nemelex, a SpEn is probably the best choice. the early game is pretty easy with it, and decks of summon will solve most of your non stabbable (is that even a word?) problems. and you will get a lot of those too, because you are a vegan pixie, so corpses for sacrifice will be plentiful. try focusing on stealth and stabb, that way you can use the decks to start a fight more often than as a panic button. try not to use the decks as a panic button. do not blind draw from deck of wonders, it can mess you pretty bad.
I think you got the xom card in that last game, tough luck.
edit: no, it was not xom card, it was wild magic. random miscast, the higher the power the nastier the miscast. tough luck anyway.
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Post Tuesday, 24th December 2013, 13:51

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

I think it's suggested to Triple Draw once with the deck of wonders, after IDing it through Peek at Two. There's only a small chance a deck is 4 cards in size, so you can generally triple draw before stacking five without using it up. Of course, if you get three wild magics you're out of luck on a draw three.

Spen of nem is really good, only way to die after you get enough decks is overconfidence, really. I don't really have any experience with non-Enchanter stabbers.
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Post Tuesday, 24th December 2013, 13:53

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

and overconfidence is a very common issue with SpEn of Nemelex, because it is really good. :lol:
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Post Tuesday, 24th December 2013, 20:14

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

I'd suggest not worrying too much about (ab)using Wonders, at all. If one shows up, use stack five on it, sure, and see if you get lucky with experience. But I'd strongly caution you against some of the advice you'll see out there about how to "work" the system to give you decks of Wonders early on, that is *at best* completely unnecessary and in some cases actively bad. A couple more ornate or legendary decks of summonings will increase your ability to survive more than Wonders, even if you catch a bit of luck and actually get an Experience card. If your luck goes the other way... Well, you've seen what can happen. Wild Magic can outright kill you and Shuffle can be devastatingly terrible for your character as well; even Helix can be bad except at high power and Focus can be annoying too sometimes. The ratio of bad to good cards in Wonders is probably the least favorable of all decks Nemelex gifts.

Decks of escape are extremely useful, they just need to be used properly. Escape can and should be used as a panic button—in fact it is among the best panic buttons in the game—but yes, you want to use stack five on an ornate/legendary deck of escape to put the best cards on top for reliable use in bad situations.

Destruction is good, but summonings is extremely good, though for the latter it doesn't really shine until you've hit sufficiently high level of card power, which depends on the level of the deck (regular/ornate/legendary), piety with Nemelex, and Evocations skill.

About your char dump:

If you assign one weapon in your inventory to "a" and another to "b" (hit "=" then "i" to get into menu where you can do this) then you can swap between those weapons easily with the ' key. Just more convenient than hitting w then some random letter when you want to switch to a blowgun. Speaking of which, use curare needles when/if you come across them, they are extremely strong against anything susceptible to poison. (Think of them as poisoned needles on steroids—they do extra damage and also slow targets that aren't resistant to poison.)

Aside from the Sage-caused strangeness, I think your skill training was reasonable. 20 evocations for XL 18 is on the high side even for Nem, but not beyond the pale. There may have been some other good spells to get, depending on what you had available. But really your death was caused by Deck of Wonders, wild magic is terrible (and makes Wonders a pretty poor gamble for the most part).

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Post Tuesday, 24th December 2013, 22:05

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

VpEn of nemelex are crawl easy mode, I always get annoyed with spriggans lack of ability to use invisibility like its an unlimited resource very early in the game.
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Post Tuesday, 24th December 2013, 23:17

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

and into wrote:If you assign one weapon in your inventory to "a" and another to "b" (hit "=" then "i" to get into menu where you can do this) then you can swap between those weapons easily with the ' key. Just more convenient than hitting w then some random letter when you want to switch to a blowgun.


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Post Tuesday, 24th December 2013, 23:26

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

ololoev wrote:Am I missing something?


Generally speaking, at this point in your crawl experience, I would strongly recommend against using nemelex or playing advanced characters like this. This is mostly because there will simply be too many new and complex features for you to be able to evaluate, such as what cards do and in what situation, when you have enough of a skill, what exactly to do with stealth, etc. This is beyond basic stuff like where to go, which items are good for you, and how to fight certain monsters that it's key to focus on first. I *could* tell you every single thing I know about spriggans of nemelex that might be important to you, but it would fill up several pages. Later on, though, once you've mastered all of the basics, if you ask again I can tell you in less space.
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Post Wednesday, 25th December 2013, 06:22

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

Hirsch I wrote:I think you got the xom card in that last game, tough luck.

Xom card gave me rF+ and Str+2 mutations. I love Xom now. Gotta play Chaos Knight later.
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Post Wednesday, 25th December 2013, 07:32

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

I got slow metabolism from a necoxec once. still hate the thing tho.
but yeah, xom is lots of fun. gave me 2500 gold and an awesome set of mutations while I was scumming D:3 with my DjCK.
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Post Thursday, 26th December 2013, 11:50

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

I love early deck of wonders!
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Your Stealth skill gained 15 levels and is now at level 22!

Needles of sleeping is cool too.

It's gonna be "It is cool to play spriggan stabber" thread.

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Post Thursday, 26th December 2013, 23:00

Re: [REQUEST] Spriggan stabber of Nemelex tips

ololoev wrote:I love early deck of wonders!


It is pretty difficult to guarantee that you can use decks of wonders to your advantage, especially early on, and even then there can be an element of risk. Rather than go into detailed meta-gamey stuff that involves risks that will be pretty difficult for new(ish) players to judge (and thus are less likely to learn from even if it backfires), I think it is much better to simply suggest that people focus on using decks of destruction, summonings, and escape. People might die despite following that advice, but they won't ever die or ruin their character *because* they followed it, which is something I consider to be a necessary condition of good advice in Crawl. ("First, do no harm.")

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