The Tavern

If you find a robe of the archmage on Dlvl 1 as a DEEE, a centaur will be waiting for you on Dlvl2.

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lazorexplosion wrote:If you find a robe of the archmage on Dlvl 1 as a DEEE, a centaur will be waiting for you on Dlvl2.

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Lol i so know that feeling >>

The run when you find rings of wizardry and magical power by D3, you're playing a Fighter. The run when you find two +5/+6 rings of slaying you're playing a Wizard.

daetrin wrote:The run when you find rings of wizardry and magical power by D3, you're playing a Fighter. The run when you find two +5/+6 rings of slaying you're playing a Wizard.

Heh. My current Wizard is mostly killing things with an axe right now, since he found it lying around... sometimes you just make lemonade

It's taken me hundreds of games to start realising that starting role doesn't have dictate much, if you don't want it to!

[14:51] <Henzell> pan[6/7]: Beware, if you leave a level (including getting banished (including by the wizards in lom lobon's vault (including high MR in your pan checklist is a good idea))), it won't be generated again -- making you miss the rune.

Except, that is, if you leave the level to enter a Ziggurat.

On the plus side, I cleared a Ziggurat for the first time, and found a dungeon exit a couple of levels later.

Also, dungeon exits do not generate in Pan as frequently as that led me to believe. Bring a weapon of distortion if you value your sanity.

mumra wrote:Also, dungeon exits do not generate in Pan as frequently as that led me to believe. Bring a weapon of distortion if you value your sanity.

Conclusion: Felids in Pan are insanity.

They're called hellcats.

Today's important lesson: Ashenzari is really cool!

Also: Agnes is much tougher you remember, possibly because you never ran into her when you were still this squishy. And uncontrolled blink is not a great way to deal with this discovery.

RIP Shelf the mad axe-wielding DSWz of Ashenzari, you were truly entertaining right up until then.

Shoals are much worse than Swamp? Wait until those hydras chase your naga. Hydra + Swamp = TURBO Hydra

Plants cannot be teleported away.

(Yes, I was playing a Spriggan Berserker with a wand of teleportation, and I was feeling too lazy to cut down an obstructing plant with my fucking dagger...)

But bushes can get blinked away with a dart of dispersal.

Happy Corner wrote:Plants cannot be teleported away.

(Yes, I was playing a Spriggan Berserker with a wand of teleportation, and I was feeling too lazy to cut down an obstructing plant with my fucking dagger...)

Hit a plant with a weapon of distortion though and it'll move.

You can also push them with Passwall, if you're feeling particularly motivated

XuaXua wrote:
Happy Corner wrote:Plants cannot be teleported away.

(Yes, I was playing a Spriggan Berserker with a wand of teleportation, and I was feeling too lazy to cut down an obstructing plant with my fucking dagger...)

Hit a plant with a weapon of distortion though and it'll move.

Wielding a weapon of distortion to remove a plant (and afterwards unwielding it) it surely more tedious than using the normal dagger if it results in you-know-what.

Wand of Paralysis is very useful against Imps.

You are your own worst enemy. If you find yourself distracted and thinking you should take a break, stop playing and come back to it later. Otherwise you'll hurry through some piddly stash management and do something colossally stupid and die needlessly.

Lessons from the tourney: The Abyss can still kill you at low levels, even if you haven't died there in years. And do not attempt to streak with a mummy, if you haven't played Crawl in months.

If the Minatur in the labyrnith is one of those big scary faces to your young Ash follower, do not attempt to kill it "real quick" while your wife looks on in irritation at waiting for you to go to bed.

Hushed wrote:You are your own worst enemy. If you find yourself distracted and thinking you should take a break, stop playing and come back to it later. Otherwise you'll hurry through some piddly stash management and do something colossally stupid and die needlessly.

You are your adventurer's worst enemy. Never think: "Lemme just try that, what's the worst that could happen?"
Perhaps your adventurer does not think like this. But he has to obey, perhaps to his doom. Give him good advice.

MyOtheHedgeFox wrote:You are your adventurer's worst enemy. Never think: "Lemme just try that, what's the worst that could happen?"
Perhaps your adventurer does not think like this. But he has to obey, perhaps to his doom. Give him good advice.

That's so insightful, thanks.

MyOtheHedgeFox wrote:You are your adventurer's worst enemy. Never think: "Lemme just try that, what's the worst that could happen?"
Perhaps your adventurer does not think like this. But he has to obey, perhaps to his doom. Give him good advice.

Yes I like that. That's a helpful way to approach the game.

Yet Another Stupid Noob wrote:If the Minatur in the labyrnith is one of those big scary faces to your young Ash follower, do not attempt to kill it "real quick" while your wife looks on in irritation at waiting for you to go to bed.

I do not remember writing this post.

Phantoms cannot leave their level, but they will happily use the stairs to follow you into the temple.

robotoloco wrote:Phantoms cannot leave their level, but they will happily use the stairs to follow you into the temple.

Phantoms can leave their level just fine. It's player ghosts who cannot.

Speaking of monster behavior...

Apparently large fish can hide in fountains... that are smaller than they are

bobross419 wrote:Speaking of monster behavior...

Apparently large fish can hide in fountains... that are smaller than they are

I noticed this a little while back for the first time when I discovered a jellyfish in a hive fountain.

I found a shark once!

Do not stairdance using stairs back to the previous level that you haven't used before.

Especially if you bypassed a dangerous unique.

Pulled a lone skeletal warrior back to D:14 and got knocked into the next county by Rupert whom I had left behind, and who just happened to be by the stairs. (He had rPois armour and I was a VM...why wouldn't I have bypassed him?)

Just because being in heavy armor and having a shield of reflection feels like cheating for the first 4 floors of the Elven Halls doesn't mean you're ready to survive the fifth floor.

to change the tone a bit:
ignite poison and poison cloud is a *lot* of fun. i actually didn't know this.

absolutego wrote:to change the tone a bit:
ignite poison and poison cloud is a *lot* of fun. i actually didn't know this.

On a similar note, Osco's refrigeration is amazing...until you forget to don your rC gear. At which point it's amazing in a different way.

absolutego wrote:to change the tone a bit:
ignite poison and poison cloud is a *lot* of fun. i actually didn't know this.

Extremely. Unfortunately, I don't find ignite poison very much.

The tab key has no compunctions whatsoever about taking you into an exclusion area.

Also, TSO and shields of reflection do not mix well.

I learned this after my buckler of reflection bounced Aizul's poison arrow back at him, poisoned him and TSO put me in penance.
(I'm wondering if I should consider this a bug and report it on Mantis...any feedback? It's technically correct but doesn't seem appropriate thematically.)

Thx minmay. Can't believe I've never had it happen before. I end up with TSO endgames more often than not and reflection is just about my favorite shield.

Thankfully the current character had the unrand shield of resistance and had just made enough shield skill that I was about to switch over anyway.

Being a full square away from a Hydra when in Spider Form isn't enough distance to get up stairs before he can move into range and attack.

bobross419 wrote:Being a full square away from a Hydra when in Spider Form isn't enough distance to get up stairs before he can move into range and attack.

Hydras are normal speed but amphibious. Amphibious monsters are much faster in water.

Hydras are normal speed but amphibious. Amphibious monsters are much faster in water.

One reason why Swamp is NOT that much easier than Shoals

pratamawirya wrote:
Hydras are normal speed but amphibious. Amphibious monsters are much faster in water.

One reason why Swamp is NOT that much easier than Shoals

...until you are impaled by five javelins and a couple icicles at once (possibly while mesmerised) on Shoals:5.
Though I don't think Shoals 1-4 are much harder than Swamp 1-4, but the branch endings have quite a margin between them.

galehar wrote:
bobross419 wrote:Being a full square away from a Hydra when in Spider Form isn't enough distance to get up stairs before he can move into range and attack.

Hydras are normal speed but amphibious. Amphibious monsters are much faster in water.

Maybe I just had bad luck on how the turns lined up, I thought I was safe to go up the stairs... no water around at all.

Nevermind...

Code:: There is a stone staircase leading up here. Your transformation has ended. The giant centipede stings you but does no damage. The giant centipede barely misses you. There is a stone staircase leading up here. The six-headed hydra bites you! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The six-headed hydra bites you! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The six-headed hydra closely misses you. The six-headed hydra bites you. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The six-headed hydra misses you. The six-headed hydra bites you! You die...

Apparently my spider form wore off just as soon as I hit the staircase. Even so, he was a full square away, I hit < he moved and apparently got in all 6 attacks before I could move up the staircase. Maybe I'm missing something though because I got the "There is a stone staircase leading up here." message twice - Another important lesson for me to learn today?

Taking stairs takes more time than just stepping. Although the duplicated message is suspicious. Maybe you typed ;

Don't forget scrolls of remove curse and ID, and lots of them, when running a Ziggurat, or you'll have to bail out on level 20 due to lack of space for more items.

Edit: also related, bring a melee weapon or lots of summons even if you're a ranged weapon specialist, to deal with slime levels, unless you enjoy that slurping sound as your +9 bolts get vacuumed up.

Things I've learned in the day I've been playing...

Don't use random wands against crystal walls, for lightning may kill you.

Sometimes, when at low HP, beleaguered and potionless, you should turn and fight rather than run. But you will never know when until it is too late.

Swiftness makes you faster than Crystal Golems.

But only on dry land.

Don't forget scrolls of remove curse and ID, and lots of them, when running a Ziggurat, or you'll have to bail out on level 20 due to lack of space for more items.

Very true!

Worshipping Ashenzari makes berserkitis a total non-issue.

I know it's obvious in hindsight, but... way cool! 8)

OP may be referring to the fact that you can't cast Swiftness (well, cast it and have it work -- nothing stops you from wasting the turn!) while you're standing in water.

Just because you've shrugged off multiple Orbs of Destruction and Iron Shots from Boris, it doesn't mean he still can't pull an 80 damage shot from nowhere and kill you just before he dies, this time even with 30+ AC/SH.

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