Help defeating Mennas please.

[Gamesmaster1965]

I have a DECj LVL 21, and after running into Mennas i checked the wiki and his silence would pretty much neutralize me....if anyone could help with the best ways a caster could defeat him i would be very appreciative.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11-a0-1783-g3fa52a4 (tiles) character file.

Elminster the Sorcerer (Deep Elf Conjurer)         Turns: 85764, Time: 18:54:46

HP 107/107 (108) AC 16     Str 10      XL: 21   Next: 85%
MP  46/46        EV 27     Int 26      God: Vehumet [******]
Gold 1985        SH 15     Dex 18      Spells: 11 memorised, 11 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +   b - staff of enchantment
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   v - +2 robe {MR}
Life Prot.: + + .   Conserve   : .   I - +3 elf buckler {rflct}
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   P - +2 visored helmet
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   w - +2 cloak
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   s - +2 pair of bracers {archer}
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   l - +2 pair of boots of the Assassin {+Inv Dex
Res.Rott. : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   O - amulet of the Queen {Gourm rN+}
Gourmand  : +       Levitation : .   f - ring of wizardry
                    Ctrl.Flight: .   n - ring of Shadows {+Inv rN+ EV+4 Acc-4 SInv

@: delayed fireball, extraordinarily resistant to hostile enchantments, very
stealthy
A: no striking features
a: Renounce Religion, Release Delayed Fireball, Evoke Invisibility
}: 2/15 runes: barnacled, gossamer


You are on level 19 of the Dungeon.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is exalted by your worship.
You are very full.

You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 49 of its levels.
You have also visited: Sewer, Bailey and Ice Cave.

You have collected 4615 gold pieces.
You have spent 2650 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 i - a +4 blowgun
 G - the +5,+7 dagger of Chilly Death (quivered) {freeze, rPois rF- rC++ MR}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
   opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   It makes you vulnerable to fire.
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
Missiles
 E - 10 curare-tipped +5 needles
Armour
 l - the +2 pair of boots of the Assassin (worn) {+Inv Dex+3 Stlth++}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 s - a +2 pair of bracers of archery (worn)
 v - a +2 robe of magic resistance (worn)
 w - a +2 cloak (worn)
 I - a +3 elven buckler of reflection (worn)
 P - a +2 visored helmet (worn)
Magical devices
 A - a wand of lightning (7)
 J - a wand of draining (8)
 K - a wand of fire (7)
 L - a wand of teleportation (4)
 Z - a wand of fireball (5)
Comestibles
 a - 5 chunks of cyclops flesh
 e - 2 bread rations
Scrolls
 o - a scroll of identify
 C - 2 scrolls of remove curse {R.Curse}
 S - 2 scrolls of fear
 T - 2 scrolls of detect curse
Jewellery
 d - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 f - a ring of wizardry (right hand)
 h - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 n - the ring of Shadows (left hand) {+Inv rN+ EV+4 Acc-4 SInv Stlth++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of invisibility]
   
   It affects your evasion (+4).
   It affects your accuracy (-4).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 t - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 x - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 y - an uncursed ring of levitation
 O - the amulet of the Queen (around neck) {Gourm rN+}
   (You found it on level 19 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [amulet of the gourmand]
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
 Q - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 Y - the ring of the Ladybird {Hunger rElec rPois}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of hunger]
   
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from poison.
Potions
 c - 2 potions of magic
 g - a potion of restore abilities
 m - 4 potions of curing
 B - a potion of resistance
 H - 2 potions of levitation
 R - 2 potions of heal wounds
Magical staves
 b - a staff of enchantment (weapon)
 q - a +3 rod of destruction [ice] (17/17)
   (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)


   Skills:
 - Level 5.0 Fighting
 - Level 13.0 Dodging
 - Level 2.4 Stealth
 - Level 5.4 Shields
 - Level 10.0 Traps & Doors
 - Level 22.5 Spellcasting
 * Level 19.1 Conjurations
 - Level 10.0 Charms
 - Level 8.0 Summonings
 + Level 15.3 Fire Magic
 - Level 11.0 Air Magic
 - Level 13.0 Poison Magic
 - Level 14.0 Evocations


You have 11 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Poison Arrow          Conj/Pois      ########..   1%          6    None
b - Iskenderun's Mystic   Conj           ########.    0%          4    None
c - Lightning Bolt        Conj/Air       ########..   1%          5    None
d - Fireball              Conj/Fire      ########..   1%          5    None
f - Fire Storm            Conj/Fire      ########..   17%         9    ######.
g - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  ########.    0%          3    None
i - Haste                 Chrm           ########.    1%          6    None
j - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       ########..   1%          6    None
k - Delayed Fireball      Conj/Fire      N/A          1%          7    ###....
l - Orb of Destruction    Conj           ########..   1%          7    ###....
m - Summon Small Mammals  Summ           #####        1%          1    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (19/27)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:6
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:8          Shoals (5/5) Lair:3
 Spider (5/5) Lair:6        Slime (0/6) Lair:6       Vaults (4/8) D:17
  Crypt (0/5) Vaults:2   
 Blade: Vaults:4-6 

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One

Shops:
D:4: **  D:16: ?  D:17: (  Orc:4: ?([=  Elf:1: *  Elf:3: %  Vaults:3: [?

Portals:
Ziggurat: D:10 (3450 gp)

Annotations
D:4 Wand of Heal Wounds 504gp
D:12 exclusion: 2 silver statues
D:15 Catoblepas
Vaults:4 !Mennas Aizul, Aizul, Mennas

Message History

Things that are here:
3 large rocks; a cyclops corpse
You start butchering the cyclops corpse with your knife.
You continue butchering the corpse.
You finish chopping the cyclops corpse into pieces.
a - 8 chunks of cyclops flesh
You see here 3 large rocks.
This raw flesh tastes great.
You continue eating.
This raw flesh tastes great.
You continue eating.
This raw flesh tastes great.
You continue eating.
Magic restored.
You see here a large rock.
You see here a large rock.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
Welcome back, Elminster the Deep Elf Conjurer.
Vehumet says: Let it end in hellfire!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Saint Roka (Shoals:3)
  Margery (Vaults:4)
  Arachne (Spider:5)
  Nikola (Shoals:3)
  4 deep elf blademasters (Elf:3)
  A shadow dragon (D:19)
  A kraken (Shoals:4)
  Rupert (Shoals:2)
  Agnes (D:14)
  Frances (D:19)
  Roxanne (Shoals:4)
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:5)
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  4 ghost moths (Spider:5)
  Wiglaf (D:17)
  Louise (Vaults:1)
  6 stone giants (D:19)
  4 emperor scorpions (Spider:5)
  Jozef (Orc:4)
  9 deep elf annihilators (Elf:3)
  An item mimic (D:18)
  8 deep elf death magi (Elf:3)
  A feature mimic (Elf:2)
  2 deep elf master archers (Elf:3)
  4 deep elf sorcerers
  Snorg (Spider:4)
  An ettin (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  3 yaktaur captains
  3 sirens
  2 merfolk aquamancers
  18 hydras
  A great orb of eyes (Vaults:3)
  4 merfolk javelineers (Shoals:5)
  Polyphemus (Shoals:2)
  Nessos (D:11)
  3 rakshasas
  An alligator snapping turtle (Shoals:4)
  3 deep elf demonologists
  6 ogre magi
  7 death yaks
  2 wolf spider zombies
  A frost giant zombie (Vaults:3)
  5 merfolk impalers (Shoals:5)
  A deep troll (shapeshifter) (D:19)
  2 stone giant zombies
  3 deep elf high priests (Elf:3)
  An elf (shapeshifter) (Elf:3)
  3 stone giant skeletons
  Nergalle (D:17)
  A frost giant skeleton (Vaults:2)
  8 centaur warriors
  16 deep elf knights
  3 hell knights (Vaults:4)
  A catoblepas (D:16)
  11 skeletal warriors
  A sun demon (Elf:2)
  42 slime creatures
  4 unseen horrors
  An ice devil (Elf:1)
  A giant amoeba (Vaults:3)
  13 sea snakes
  A lindwurm (Lair:8)
  7 orc knights
  3 ice statues
  A redback zombie (D:19)
  14 hill giants
  A flayed ghost (Vaults:3)
  A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  A centaur zombie (D:15)
  A hydra zombie (D:16)
  41 harpies
  4 orc sorcerers
  An oklob plant (Shoals:5)
  2 necromancers
  A harpy zombie (D:14)
  13 cyclopes
  6 griffons
  28 wolf spiders
  A moth of wrath (Spider:3)
  6 red wasps
  A red wasp zombie (D:15)
  2 spiny worms (Spider:5)
  2 griffon zombies
  5 black mambas
  12 elephants
  An eye of devastation (D:17)
  A dragon zombie (Vaults:2)
  4 elephant slugs
  An ice dragon skeleton (Vaults:1)
  An elephant (shapeshifter) (D:19)
  A spiny worm zombie (D:19)
  30 spiny frogs
  A dragon skeleton (Vaults:2)
  2 ettin skeletons (D:19)
  A hill giant zombie (D:14)
  A hellwing (D:19)
  An eye of devastation (shapeshifter) (D:19)
  2 small abominations (Elf:3)
  8 mermaids
  2 hill giant skeletons
  3 rock trolls
  9 yaktaurs
  11 demonic crawlers
  37 ugly things
  2 iron devils
  A queen bee (Vaults:1)
  8 komodo dragons
  9 trolls
  An agate snail zombie (D:14)
  A polar bear (Lair:5)
  A rock troll zombie (D:19)
  37 jumping spiders
  2 ravens (Lair:6)
  A grizzly bear (Lair:5)
  A hydra simulacrum (D:16)
  23 two-headed ogres
  4 basilisks
  43 blink frogs
  23 tarantellas
  9 snapping turtles
  8 sharks
  5 blue devils
  62 yaks
  A tarantella (shapeshifter) (D:17)
  3 wraiths
  A bumblebee (shapeshifter) (D:19)
  18 orb spiders
  10 war dogs
  A merfolk (shapeshifter) (Elf:3)
  43 merfolk
  15 hippogriffs
  12 deep elf conjurers
  A hungry ghost (D:14)
  4 clay golems
  A steam dragon (D:8)
  A water elemental (Shoals:5)
  24 trapdoor spiders
  11 deep elf summoners
  40 redbacks
  A rock worm (Vaults:4)
  3 necrophages
  22 deep elf fighters
  21 manticores
  A komodo dragon zombie (D:13)
  3 boulder beetles
  29 vampire mosquitoes
  2 yaktaur zombies
  4 fire drakes
  2 soldier ants
  A yaktaur skeleton (D:16)
  2 mottled dragons
  A cyclops zombie (D:12)
  A mottled dragon (shapeshifter) (D:17)
  2 sky beasts
  A boulder beetle zombie (Vaults:3)
  A freezing wraith (Vaults:3)
  11 ice beasts
  8 deep elf priests
  A cyclops skeleton (D:14)
  36 ogres
  34 orc warriors
  15 giant goldfish
  A red devil (Elf:3)
  A bumblebee zombie (Vaults:2)
  A deep dwarf (shapeshifter) (D:19)
  10 yellow wasps
  A troll zombie (D:17)
  3 phantoms
  2 hell hounds (Lair:8)
  A black bear (Lair:1)
  2 boring beetles
  27 centaurs
  9 crocodiles
  A rotting devil (D:19)
  7 wargs
  8 giant slugs
  5 wolves (Lair:8)
  10 big kobolds
  18 deep elf magi
  2 brain worms
  6 giant leeches (Lair:8)
  10 agate snails
  13 water moccasins
  A basilisk zombie (D:15)
  2 gnoll sergeants (D:8)
  A two-headed ogre zombie (D:13)
  A soldier ant zombie (D:13)
  28 giant frogs
  A basilisk skeleton (D:19)
  A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:17)
  2 killer bee zombies
  2 eyes of draining
  5 wights
  10 jellyfish
  37 killer bees
  2 big kobold zombies
  An ogre zombie (D:17)
  A brain worm zombie (D:14)
  A quasit (D:7)
  8 crimson imps
  A basilisk simulacrum (D:17)
  4 goliath beetles
  5 big kobold skeletons
  7 electric eels
  23 hounds
  A hound skeleton (D:8)
  An iron imp (Elf:3)
  19 big fish
  27 orc wizards
  8 iguanas
  34 orc priests
  24 spiders
  11 worker ants
  36 deep elf soldiers
  11 scorpions
  12 porcupines
  3 spectral orcs (D:17)
  32 sheep
  11 jellies
  A mummy (D:9)
  4 boggarts (D:15)
  41 gnolls
  53 green rats
  A sheep zombie (D:19)
  15 adders
  5 giant centipedes
  4 giant mites
  An iguana zombie (D:6)
  2 giant centipede zombies
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  12 white imps (D:11)
  5 worms
  4 ufetubi
  A bat skeleton (D:5)
  A giant eyeball (D:13)
  8 giant geckos
  4 oozes
  203 orcs
  3 ball pythons
  7 giant cockroaches
  4 grey rats
  21 hobgoblins
  65 jackals
  10 quokkas
  50 bats
  6 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:7)
  36 goblins
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:6)
  2 illusory rakshasas (D:14)
  A jackal zombie (D:7)
  57 kobolds
  A kobold skeleton (D:5)
  2 orc skeletons
  2 orc zombies
  A quokka skeleton (D:19)
  24 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:5)
  3 ballistomycetes
  A bush (Lair:6)
  2 crawling corpses (Elf:3)
  9 fungi
  27 plants
  A tentacle (Shoals:4)
  61 toadstools
2412 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A blink frog (Lair:8)
  An ogre (Orc:4)
  A warg (Orc:4)
  3 giant frogs
  A green rat (Lair:7)
  A giant gecko (Lair:2)
  4 orcs
  2 quokkas
  A giant spore (Lair:4)
  3 goblins
  A kobold (D:9)
  A ballistomycete (Lair:4)
  13 fungi
  28 plants
  4 tentacles (Shoals:4)
  8 tentacle segments (Shoals:4)
  310 toadstools
383 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2795 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Elminster, the Deep Elf Conjurer, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4
   442 | D:1      | Killed monsters: 0 trivial, 10 easy, 0 tough, 0 nasty; 6 corpses
   442 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/15 MP: 5/7
   455 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  1178 | D:2      | Killed monsters: 7 trivial, 11 easy, 0 tough, 0 nasty; 10 corpses
  1178 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 8/10
  1184 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
  2163 | D:2      | Killed monsters: 27 trivial, 1 easy, 1 tough, 0 nasty; 15 corpses
  2163 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 14/14
  2570 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  2570 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  2793 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
  2895 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
  2895 | D:3      | Killed monsters: 8 trivial, 9 easy, 1 tough, 0 nasty; 9 corpses
  2895 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 2/18
  3563 | D:4      | Found Muahalupt's Assorted Antiques.
  4354 | D:4      | Found Feme's Fishing Supplies.
  4360 | D:4      | Noticed a giant goldfish
  4749 | D:4      | Killed monsters: 19 trivial, 1 easy, 4 tough, 0 nasty; 9 corpses
  4749 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 22/32 MP: 11/20
  5311 | D:4      | Killed a giant goldfish
  6159 | D:4      | Killed monsters: 4 trivial, 4 easy, 5 tough, 0 nasty; 5 corpses
  6159 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 24/36 MP: 4/21
  6276 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  6906 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
  6906 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
  7367 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  7396 | D:5      | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
  7572 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7579 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7853 | D:5      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  7853 | D:5      | Noticed a glowing angel
  7929 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  7929 | D:6      | Killed monsters: 35 trivial, 14 easy, 3 tough, 0 nasty; 25 corpses
  7929 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 9/23
  7987 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  8163 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  8418 | D:6      | Found a glowing drain.
  8445 | Sewer    | Entered the sewers
  8965 | Sewer    | Acquired Vehumet's first power
  9899 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 10082 | D:6      | Killed monsters: 33 trivial, 22 easy, 7 tough, 0 nasty; 26 corpses
 10082 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 15/25
 10643 | D:6      | Acquired Vehumet's second power
 10658 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 10861 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 10862 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 10863 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 10869 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 10869 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 10870 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 10964 | D:7      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 11048 | D:7      | Learned a level 5 spell: Lightning Bolt
 11342 | D:7      | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball
 11398 | D:7      | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations
 11683 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic
 12635 | D:8      | Noticed an elephant
 13276 | D:8      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 13371 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 13377 | D:8      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 13400 | D:8      | Acquired Vehumet's third power
 13406 | D:8      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 13411 | D:8      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 13440 | D:8      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 13695 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Conjurations
 13698 | D:8      | Killed monsters: 37 trivial, 28 easy, 14 tough, 0 nasty; 32 corpses
 13698 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 48/50 MP: 4/27
 14111 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic
 14738 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 15313 | D:9      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 15415 | D:9      | Acquired Vehumet's fourth power
 15497 | D:9      | Identified a cursed -2 rod of destruction [ice] (12/12) (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
 15545 | D:9      | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 16127 | D:9      | Reached skill level 8 in Conjurations
 16233 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 16647 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 16656 | D:10     | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting
 16658 | D:10     | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 16804 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 16893 | D:10     | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
 16929 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 16929 | D:10     | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting
 17224 | D:10     | Found a flagged portal.
 17237 | Bailey   | Entered the bailey
 17787 | D:11     | Noticed Nessos
 17798 | D:11     | Killed Nessos
 17798 | D:11     | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting
 17798 | D:11     | Killed monsters: 60 trivial, 41 easy, 16 tough, 2 nasty; 44 corpses
 17798 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 29/53 MP: 12/33
 17956 | D:11     | Found a frozen archway.
 17995 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 18004 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting
 18147 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice statue
 18147 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice statue
 18185 | IceCv    | Killed an ice statue
 18472 | IceCv    | Killed an ice statue
 18472 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting
 18483 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice devil
 18484 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice devil
 18484 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice devil
 18486 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice devil
 18486 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice devil
 18513 | IceCv    | Identified 3 scrolls of acquirement
 18514 | IceCv    | Got a faintly glowing bone amulet
 18517 | IceCv    | Identified the amulet of the Grey Skies {Str+4 Dex-2} (You acquired it in an ice cave)
 19450 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 19750 | Lair:1   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 19755 | Lair:1   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 19817 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Charms
 20410 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
 20418 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
 20463 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of identify for 42 gold pieces
 20463 | D:4      | Bought 3 scrolls of identify for 126 gold pieces
 20463 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of identify for 42 gold pieces
 21781 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 22160 | Lair:3   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 22164 | Lair:3   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 22164 | Lair:3   | Killed monsters: 74 trivial, 28 easy, 17 tough, 4 nasty; 51 corpses
 22164 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 58/58 MP: 28/35
 22260 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 22366 | Lair:3   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 22371 | Lair:3   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 22910 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Vehumet
 23206 | Lair:3   | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast
 23584 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 23588 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
 24231 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
 24613 | Lair:5   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 24616 | Lair:5   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 25324 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 25406 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting
 25612 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 26504 | Lair:6   | Killed monsters: 25 trivial, 38 easy, 39 tough, 2 nasty; 43 corpses
 26504 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 62/62 MP: 14/37
 26940 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Vehumet
 26985 | Lair:6   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 27817 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 6 spell: Poison Arrow
 27893 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
 29672 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 31004 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Vehumet
 31117 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 31134 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 31154 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 32625 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 32638 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Vehumet
 33282 | Orc:4    | Noticed Jozef
 33286 | Orc:4    | Killed Jozef
 33676 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 33866 | Orc:4    | Found Cufutomn's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 33867 | Orc:4    | Found Olu Noust's Armour Boutique.
 33867 | Orc:4    | Found Kituivan's Jewellery Emporium.
 33868 | Orc:4    | Found Jacakhlu's Weapon Boutique.
 33961 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of blinking for 77 gold pieces
 34500 | D:12     | Killed monsters: 178 trivial, 89 easy, 32 tough, 2 nasty; 149 corpses
 34500 | D:12     | Reached XP level 14. HP: 45/73 MP: 38/38
 34532 | D:12     | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 35438 | D:12     | Got a silk robe
 35445 | D:12     | Identified the +0 robe of Cyilem (You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 35956 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste
 36332 | D:13     | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic
 36332 | D:13     | Reached skill level 10 in Poison Magic
 36757 | D:13     | Received a gift from Vehumet
 36891 | D:14     | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon
 38829 | D:14     | Noticed Agnes
 38829 | D:14     | Reached skill level 10 in Air Magic
 38834 | D:14     | Killed Agnes
 39724 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 6 spell: Deflect Missiles
 39858 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 39868 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
 39868 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 40059 | Lair:8   | Killed monsters: 35 trivial, 75 easy, 35 tough, 1 nasty; 54 corpses
 40059 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 78/78 MP: 17/39
 40610 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 40938 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 5 in Traps & Doors
 41667 | Lair:8   | Learned a level 7 spell: Delayed Fireball
 42372 | Lair:8   | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 43723 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 5 spell: Ignite Poison
 43839 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 43850 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting
 46232 | Spider:3 | Killed monsters: 57 trivial, 115 easy, 36 tough, 0 nasty; 99 corpses
 46232 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 83/83 MP: 40/40
 46861 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting
 47590 | Spider:3 | HP: 4/83 [wolf spider (9)]
 48124 | Spider:4 | Noticed Snorg
 48124 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 48136 | Spider:4 | HP: 3/83 [trapdoor spider (20)]
 48769 | Spider:4 | Killed Snorg
 49291 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 49501 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 6 spell: Poisonous Cloud
 49696 | Spider:4 | Noticed a ghost moth
 50156 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 51185 | D:15     | Reached skill level 10 in Traps & Doors
 52079 | D:15     | Reached skill level 19 in Spellcasting
 53556 | D:16     | Found Gaujaosa's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 53568 | D:16     | Killed monsters: 36 trivial, 111 easy, 38 tough, 0 nasty; 69 corpses
 53568 | D:16     | Reached XP level 17. HP: 76/87 MP: 10/42
 53585 | D:16     | Bought a scroll of fear for 56 gold pieces
 53585 | D:16     | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 48 gold pieces
 53585 | D:16     | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 48 gold pieces
 53585 | D:16     | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 48 gold pieces
 53585 | D:16     | Bought a scroll of identify for 32 gold pieces
 53585 | D:16     | Bought a scroll of identify for 32 gold pieces
 53585 | D:16     | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon I for 88 gold pieces
 53585 | D:16     | Bought a scroll of identify for 32 gold pieces
 54585 | D:4      | Bought the ring of Shadows {+Inv rN+ EV+4 Acc-4 SInv Stlth++} for 1071 gold pieces
 55142 | Spider:5 | Noticed a ghost moth
 55144 | Spider:5 | Killed a ghost moth
 55502 | Spider:5 | Noticed Arachne
 55911 | Spider:5 | Killed Arachne
 56587 | Spider:5 | Noticed a ghost moth
 56589 | Spider:5 | Killed a ghost moth
 56589 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations
 56617 | Spider:5 | Noticed a ghost moth
 56622 | Spider:5 | Killed a ghost moth
 56806 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 20 in Spellcasting
 56999 | Spider:5 | Noticed a ghost moth
 57015 | Spider:5 | Killed a ghost moth
 57365 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 58032 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 58262 | Elf:1    | Found Imomom's General Store.
 58271 | Elf:1    | Bought a scroll of identify for 32 gold pieces
 59862 | Elf:2    | Found Sicuada's Book Shoppe.
 59864 | Elf:2    | Sicuada's Book Shoppe was a mimic.
 59880 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 60166 | Elf:3    | Found Siang's Food Shop.
 60411 | Elf:3    | Killed monsters: 43 trivial, 112 easy, 27 tough, 1 nasty; 81 corpses
 60411 | Elf:3    | Reached XP level 18. HP: 93/93 MP: 40/43
 61634 | Elf:3    | Noticed a deep elf blademaster
 61637 | Elf:3    | Killed a deep elf blademaster
 61985 | Elf:3    | Noticed a deep elf blademaster
 62004 | Elf:3    | Killed a deep elf blademaster
 62004 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 21 in Spellcasting
 62878 | Elf:3    | Noticed a deep elf blademaster
 62891 | Elf:3    | Killed a deep elf blademaster
 63178 | Elf:3    | Noticed a deep elf blademaster
 63186 | Elf:3    | Killed a deep elf blademaster
 63723 | Elf:3    | Got a faintly glowing wooden ring
 63724 | Elf:3    | Identified the ring of the Ladybird (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 64418 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction
 64633 | D:17     | Killed monsters: 23 trivial, 36 easy, 36 tough, 4 nasty; 45 corpses
 64633 | D:17     | Reached XP level 19. HP: 97/97 MP: 33/44
 64886 | D:17     | Noticed Wiglaf
 65076 | D:17     | Killed Wiglaf
 65603 | D:17     | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 66059 | D:17     | Got a warped quarterstaff
 66060 | D:17     | Identified the cursed quarterstaff of the Eggplant {antimagic, +Blink MR Str+1} (You found it on level 17 of the Dungeon)
 66216 | D:17     | Noticed Nergalle
 66220 | D:17     | Killed Nergalle
 66220 | D:17     | Reached skill level 22 in Spellcasting
 66352 | D:17     | Found Treuv's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 67625 | D:19     | Noticed Frances
 67637 | D:19     | Killed Frances
 68237 | D:19     | Noticed a shadow dragon
 68265 | D:19     | Killed a shadow dragon
 69520 | D:19     | Got an ancient steel amulet
 70251 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 70251 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 70251 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of fear for 49 gold pieces
 70251 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of amnesia for 77 gold pieces
 70251 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of amnesia for 77 gold pieces
 70251 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 70627 | Lair:1   | Identified the amulet of the Queen (You found it on level 19 of the Dungeon)
 70637 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Small Mammals
 70778 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 70914 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
 70917 | Shoals:1 | Killed monsters: 26 trivial, 121 easy, 37 tough, 0 nasty; 63 corpses
 70917 | Shoals:1 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 66/103 MP: 29/45
 70997 | Shoals:1 | Got a smoking leather armour
 71005 | Shoals:1 | Identified the +4 leather armour of Joy (You found it on level 1 of the Shoals)
 71948 | Shoals:2 | Noticed Rupert
 71954 | Shoals:2 | Killed Rupert
 72359 | Shoals:2 | Noticed Polyphemus
 72383 | Shoals:2 | Killed Polyphemus
 73676 | Shoals:3 | Noticed Saint Roka
 73679 | Shoals:3 | Noticed Nikola
 73686 | Shoals:3 | Killed Saint Roka
 73686 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
 73688 | Shoals:3 | Killed Nikola
 74463 | Shoals:3 | Got an ebony whip
 74464 | Shoals:3 | Identified the whip "Banisher" {drain, rF- MR Dex+4 Int+3} (You took it off a mermaid on level 3 of the Shoals)
 75385 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Roxanne
 75705 | Shoals:4 | Killed Roxanne
 75717 | Shoals:4 | Got an inconspicuous book
 75718 | Shoals:4 | Identified Roxanne's Disquisition on Transformation and Stones (You took it off Roxanne on level 4 of the Shoals)
 77746 | Orc:4    | Bought an uncursed ring of wizardry for 390 gold pieces
 78334 | Shoals:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Shoals
 78398 | Shoals:5 | Got a shimmering longbow
 78414 | Shoals:5 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 78417 | Shoals:5 | Killed Ilsuiw
 78867 | Shoals:5 | Killed monsters: 26 trivial, 120 easy, 25 tough, 2 nasty; 85 corpses
 78867 | Shoals:5 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 95/107 MP: 37/46
 79674 | Shoals:5 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 80073 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 80909 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Louise
 80914 | Vaults:1 | Killed Louise
 81417 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 83261 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Fire Magic
 84272 | Vaults:3 | Found Musaucau's Armour Boutique.
 84433 | Vaults:3 | Found Qadifiem's Magic Scroll Emporium.
 84441 | Vaults:3 | Bought a scroll of identify for 42 gold pieces
 84441 | Vaults:3 | Bought a scroll of identify for 42 gold pieces
 84441 | Vaults:3 | Bought a scroll of identify for 42 gold pieces
 84729 | Vaults:4 | Noticed Mennas
 84822 | Vaults:4 | Noticed Margery
 84832 | Vaults:4 | Killed Margery
 85150 | Vaults:4 | Noticed Aizul
 85192 | Vaults:3 | Bought a scroll of fear for 73 gold pieces
 85488 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 9 spell: Fire Storm



Thanks in advance...

[mageykun]

Char dumps are made in game by hitting #. This makes a text file of the dump in your morgues folder. Copy the text inside, and paste between code tags.

[code][/code]

Really, the best way to deal with Mennas is to be a heavy armour melee character. Casters are really best off avoiding him. Keeping out of range of silence with haste + swiftness and pillar dancing as you blast him away [i]might [/i]be possible... but he has enough hp that it'll take a while. Plus he can block a lot. You'll need mp recharging of some sort, and risk glow that way. Overwhelming him with summons is doable, if you have 'em, and you prepare the army in advance (stairs work well here, both to bring them to the fight quickly, and to bail if you see your army starting to lose).

[Gamesmaster1965]

Yeah i figured that might be the case....he's on Vault:4, i have left and gone back to Dungeon for now.....i have posted the dump in case i have something that might help with him....

[KoboldLord]

Just ignore him. Clear the other levels, and sneak past to Vaults 5+ to clear them too. If he starts chasing you, read a teleportation scroll if you aren't silenced and use your teleportation wand if you are. Probably there's nothing too important on the level he occupies, and if you can't bear to leave it uncleared you can just sneak off whenever you see him and waste a teleport charge whenever he notices you. It really won't be difficult as long as you don't pick fights when you're already vulnerable.

When you get Fire Storm down to a satisfactory casting rate, spam it while he's at the edge of your line of sight, preferably after quaffing a potion of speed. Stacking wizardry is perfectly acceptable for your success rate, since he won't be hitting you. Either equip clarity or have a couple potions of curing, it doesn't matter. You can run faster than him while Hasted, and around four Fire Storms will typically kill him. His main defenses are Silence, which you can wait out as long as you're Hasted and keeping your distance, and his massive SH, which Fire Storm ignores.

There's absolutely no point in doing this soon. The xp reward isn't worth the effort, and neither his eudemon blade nor his large shield is likely to be useful for you.

[Gamesmaster1965]

Thanks....i hate to leave things unfinished but i am learning that its often the best way in Crawl....this is the furthest i have ever got so i don't want to die just from being stupid...so he can have his level of the Vault and i shall stick to the dungeon for a while....

[Kate]

It's definitely often sensible to leave him alone and come back later, but haste and fireball will also take him out very easily on that character.

[rebthor]

It's definitely often sensible to leave him alone and come back later, but haste and fireball will also take him out very easily on that character.

That's what I was going to say, I've taken him out before with fireballs since he can't block them. It's not the easiest though.

[Konebred]

I pretty much always run from him. He is very Mennas-ing

[ebarrett]

haste and ring of flames is even easier and lets you run away freely while doing it