I think we learned an important lesson today.


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Post Monday, 21st August 2017, 15:29

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

Don't play while the cat is begging for food. It has a terrible effect on concentration.

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Post Thursday, 24th August 2017, 11:45

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

A +9 demon trident of chaos is fun until it hastes an orb of fire or berserks an orb guardian. I plead temporary derangement of the brain.

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Post Monday, 4th September 2017, 18:47

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

Doing Abyss when you have the do not regenerate when monsters are in your LOS mutation is a bad idea. Lost a good TeAE in Abyss:3. The ease of Abyss 1 and 2 lulled me into complacency, and then I blew through 7k gold in potion petition and all the tele trying to find an exit out over a long period of time. Abyssal stairs kept appearing under my feet as if the game was mocking me.
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Post Saturday, 9th September 2017, 18:47

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

Your summons can start fighting each other, if one hits the other. If the hit one wins the fight, it'll then attack you too.
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Post Monday, 11th September 2017, 22:10

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Nemelex can banish you to the Abyss. I was wondering why I had developed a habit of never using decks of escape...
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Post Tuesday, 12th September 2017, 08:50

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

Mostly you should stack decks of escape. Blind drawing individual cards can be a life-saver in the early/mid-game, but it also comes with appreciable danger. In the later game, with plenty of piety, it's almost never a good idea.

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Post Friday, 15th September 2017, 09:39

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Apparently, slimes don't increase MR when they join together. So if you can't avoid them merging, you can easily paralyse a titanic slime creature and kill them all at the same time with a few hits.
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Post Sunday, 17th September 2017, 02:52

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

TRJ doesn't spawn jellies when killed by Grand Finale.

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Post Sunday, 1st October 2017, 13:57

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Nessos has a very bad save against paralysis (46% untrained).
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Post Monday, 2nd October 2017, 00:46

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Distraction + Tab + Lair + Hydra + Non-flaming axe = death :P

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Post Monday, 2nd October 2017, 05:06

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Shtopit wrote:Nessos has a very bad save against paralysis (46% untrained).
You reminded me a game where I failed to apply paralysis to him with 7 attempts in a row (50% chance each). I died if I remember properly
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Post Monday, 2nd October 2017, 07:24

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

VeryAngryFelid wrote:
Shtopit wrote:Nessos has a very bad save against paralysis (46% untrained).
You reminded me a game where I failed to apply paralysis to him with 7 attempts in a row (50% chance each). I died if I remember properly

Did Nessos have any MR+ gear? If not, that was a less than 0.8% probability...
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Post Monday, 2nd October 2017, 07:35

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Sprucery wrote:Did Nessos have any MR+ gear? If not, that was a less than 0.8% probability...


I don't remember. Probably it had but I was not going to read all those "easily" and "barely" resists.
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Post Monday, 2nd October 2017, 13:46

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

If you enter Lair:1 and are immediately greeted by Fannar and Harold... just read !Tele immedately. Not even the stairs can save you.

I made the error of going for the strairs right away; got Netted by Harold and died.

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Post Monday, 2nd October 2017, 14:44

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raikaria wrote:If you enter Lair:1 and are immediately greeted by Fannar and Harold... just read !Tele immedately. Not even the stairs can save you.

I made the error of going for the strairs right away; got Netted by Harold and died.


:D So Now Harold gets to retire (if im remembering my uniques properly)

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Post Monday, 2nd October 2017, 23:29

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Oh yeah, Crazy Yiuf's quarterstaff can banish you. I won't think of him as a free cloak anymore!
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Post Sunday, 22nd October 2017, 15:44

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Immolation is pretty good against starcursed starses.
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Post Monday, 23rd October 2017, 10:51

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You can take a trapdoor and be dropped into a cloud of fire representing a campfire in a kobold vault. A bad feature, if you ask me.
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Post Monday, 23rd October 2017, 18:10

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Shtopit wrote:You can take a trapdoor and be dropped into a cloud of fire representing a campfire in a kobold vault. A bad feature, if you ask me.


From the viewpoint of the kobolds, it's a great feature.
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Post Tuesday, 24th October 2017, 23:59

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If you sacrificed artifice, don't wear boots of flying in depths.

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Post Saturday, 4th November 2017, 18:38

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

When you encounter the gnoll castle in the mid dungeon, it has orcs instead, including a warlord
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Post Saturday, 11th November 2017, 12:08

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You can use Immolation on Roka's Merry Band!
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Post Saturday, 11th November 2017, 17:43

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I used immolation on a orc warlord band in Orc:1 just yesterday! I even got hit by a couple explosions to no great harm. I'll be using that scroll more often now.
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Post Saturday, 11th November 2017, 18:33

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Immolation + torment + TRJ = <3
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Post Monday, 13th November 2017, 20:01

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

Don't Enslave Soul Bai Suzhen's dragon form.
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Post Monday, 13th November 2017, 21:32

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What if you 'tw' her? Seems like she'd wander the level storming everyone...

She still doesn't sound like the best pet but this might be better than having her in LoS all the time...
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Post Tuesday, 14th November 2017, 01:07

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Immolation isn't that great, if used while surrounded on three sides :(
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Post Tuesday, 14th November 2017, 20:28

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njvack wrote:What if you 'tw' her? Seems like she'd wander the level storming everyone...

She still doesn't sound like the best pet but this might be better than having her in LoS all the time...

She was slowly killing off my gifted undead. Not that it mattered. Next level down in depths, two successive flocks of caustic shrikes killed everything. 5 vampire knights, 2 profane servitors, and a bone dragon and about 12 other gifted undead? Not a problem to caustic shrikes.

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Post Monday, 20th November 2017, 15:54

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Think twice before taking Ru on a blaster, because her panic buttons have a high MP cost and chances are by the time you've figured out that you need her help you've used up most of your MP.
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Post Wednesday, 22nd November 2017, 02:09

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MainiacJoe wrote:Think twice before taking Ru on a blaster, because her panic buttons have a high MP cost and chances are by the time you've figured out that you need her help you've used up most of your MP.

If you use Ru's Apocalypse as a panic button then you use it wrong. It is an opener. If you need to finish the fight, use Power Leap or Draw Out Power.
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Post Wednesday, 22nd November 2017, 13:57

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Yermak wrote:
MainiacJoe wrote:Think twice before taking Ru on a blaster, because her panic buttons have a high MP cost and chances are by the time you've figured out that you need her help you've used up most of your MP.

If you use Ru's Apocalypse as a panic button then you use it wrong. It is an opener. If you need to finish the fight, use Power Leap or Draw Out Power.

I never considered that! So in which situations is an Apocalypse opener worth the drain, and when isn't it?
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Post Thursday, 23rd November 2017, 09:35

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MainiacJoe wrote:So in which situations is an Apocalypse opener worth the drain, and when isn't it?

If you have a large amount of monsters in your los that you know you can't deal without a couple of buffs or even with them, then it's the time: double pack of death yaks in Lair, Vaults: 5, open layout in Depths. If you're left at red drain after the fight you probably misused it.
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Post Monday, 4th December 2017, 18:23

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... player mummies are normal speed?
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Post Monday, 4th December 2017, 20:13

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Frankly, Ru in general and Apocalypse in particular feel really underwhelming to me. Apocalypse is a "become Qazlal" button that will draw the entire map to you immediately after you expanded your principal means of area control, while Ru's "you can only use one of three abilities per fight" concept is flat-out weak when you consider that other gods let you effortlessly cruise though 99% of the dungeon and use that piety for a whole army of simulacra/devas/berserk iron trolls in the rare fight that is actually threatening.

Maybe I'm just bummed that I completely cleared Pan on Hellcrawl, only to die in Vestibule because Apocalypse called down a panlord/fiend party on my face. Shouldn't have lignified, I guess.

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It is never too late to learn Tornado in 3 rune game (not my game):

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Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 |
Air Magic      |                                                              4  7             24 | 24.2

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
       Tornado           |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    32 ||    32


 62683 | Depths:2 | Reached XP level 27. HP: 185/246 MP: 2/48
 62853 | Depths:2 | Noticed cybersaint2k's ghost (adept KoHu)
 62871 | Depths:2 | Killed cybersaint2k's ghost
 62875 | Depths:2 | Noticed a juggernaut
 62885 | Depths:2 | Killed a juggernaut
 64067 | Depths:3 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 64903 | Depths:4 | Found Zeurghiext's Book Shop.
 64918 | Depths:4 | Found Extorr's General Store.
 64920 | Depths:4 | Bought a book of the Tempests for 1400 gold pieces
 64974 | Depths:4 | Learned a level 9 spell: Tornado
 65558 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Air Magic
 65592 | Depths:4 | Found a runed gate.
 65593 | Depths:4 | Found a runed gate.
 65596 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Air Magic
 65751 | Depths:4 | Noticed a juggernaut
 65770 | Depths:4 | Killed a juggernaut
 65796 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Air Magic
 65862 | Depths:4 | Found a runed gate.
 65862 | Depths:4 | Found a runed gate.
 65862 | Depths:4 | Found a runed gate.
 65907 | Depths:4 | Found a large runed door.
 65910 | Depths:4 | Found the +1 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
 66015 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 11 in Air Magic
 66209 | Depths:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Depths
 66402 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 12 in Air Magic
 66504 | Depths:5 | Found Vidacoz's Book Emporium.
 66671 | Depths:5 | Noticed a juggernaut
 66678 | Depths:5 | Killed a juggernaut
 66678 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 13 in Air Magic
 66809 | Depths:5 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot.
 67291 | Zot:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot
 67439 | Zot:1    | Reached skill level 14 in Air Magic
 67585 | Zot:2    | Noticed an orb of fire
 67590 | Zot:2    | Killed an orb of fire
 67685 | Zot:2    | Reached skill level 15 in Air Magic
 67875 | Zot:2    | Noticed an orb of fire
 67882 | Zot:2    | Lost mutation: You are robust. (+10% HP) [an orb of fire]
 67884 | Zot:2    | Killed an orb of fire
 68610 | Zot:1    | Reached skill level 16 in Air Magic
 68821 | Zot:1    | Reached skill level 17 in Air Magic
 69559 | Zot:3    | Reached skill level 18 in Air Magic
 70132 | Zot:4    | Identified the +8 shortbow "Suliafu" {flame, rC+}
 70186 | Zot:4    | Reached skill level 19 in Air Magic
 70293 | Zot:5    | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot
 70453 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 70457 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 70457 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 20 in Air Magic
 70486 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 70487 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 70488 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 70495 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 70495 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 21 in Air Magic
 70515 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 70519 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [an orb of fire]
 70522 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 70525 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 70529 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 22 in Air Magic
 70530 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 70645 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 70651 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 70651 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 23 in Air Magic
 70893 | Zot:5    | Got the Orb of Zot
 70912 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 70916 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [an orb of fire]
 70917 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 70931 | Zot:5    | Cast into level 5 of the Abyss (the power of Zot)
 70931 | Abyss:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Abyss
 70952 | Zot:5    | Escaped the Abyss
 71004 | Zot:2    | Noticed Xaguw the pandemonium lord
 71004 | Zot:2    | Noticed an ancient lich
 71007 | Zot:2    | Killed an ancient lich
 71007 | Zot:2    | Reached skill level 24 in Air Magic
 71007 | Zot:2    | Killed Xaguw the pandemonium lord
 71490 | D:$      | Escaped with the Orb!
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Post Tuesday, 2nd January 2018, 09:54

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

VeryAngryFelid wrote:It is never too late to learn Tornado in 3 rune game (not my game):

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Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 |
Air Magic      |                                                              4  7             24 | 24.2

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
       Tornado           |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    32 ||    32


 62683 | Depths:2 | Reached XP level 27. HP: 185/246 MP: 2/48
 62853 | Depths:2 | Noticed cybersaint2k's ghost (adept KoHu)
 62871 | Depths:2 | Killed cybersaint2k's ghost
 62875 | Depths:2 | Noticed a juggernaut
 62885 | Depths:2 | Killed a juggernaut
 64067 | Depths:3 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 64903 | Depths:4 | Found Zeurghiext's Book Shop.
 64918 | Depths:4 | Found Extorr's General Store.
 64920 | Depths:4 | Bought a book of the Tempests for 1400 gold pieces
 64974 | Depths:4 | Learned a level 9 spell: Tornado
 65558 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Air Magic
 65592 | Depths:4 | Found a runed gate.
 65593 | Depths:4 | Found a runed gate.
 65596 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Air Magic
 65751 | Depths:4 | Noticed a juggernaut
 65770 | Depths:4 | Killed a juggernaut
 65796 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Air Magic
 65862 | Depths:4 | Found a runed gate.
 65862 | Depths:4 | Found a runed gate.
 65862 | Depths:4 | Found a runed gate.
 65907 | Depths:4 | Found a large runed door.
 65910 | Depths:4 | Found the +1 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
 66015 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 11 in Air Magic
 66209 | Depths:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Depths
 66402 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 12 in Air Magic
 66504 | Depths:5 | Found Vidacoz's Book Emporium.
 66671 | Depths:5 | Noticed a juggernaut
 66678 | Depths:5 | Killed a juggernaut
 66678 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 13 in Air Magic
 66809 | Depths:5 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot.
 67291 | Zot:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot
 67439 | Zot:1    | Reached skill level 14 in Air Magic
 67585 | Zot:2    | Noticed an orb of fire
 67590 | Zot:2    | Killed an orb of fire
 67685 | Zot:2    | Reached skill level 15 in Air Magic
 67875 | Zot:2    | Noticed an orb of fire
 67882 | Zot:2    | Lost mutation: You are robust. (+10% HP) [an orb of fire]
 67884 | Zot:2    | Killed an orb of fire
 68610 | Zot:1    | Reached skill level 16 in Air Magic
 68821 | Zot:1    | Reached skill level 17 in Air Magic
 69559 | Zot:3    | Reached skill level 18 in Air Magic
 70132 | Zot:4    | Identified the +8 shortbow "Suliafu" {flame, rC+}
 70186 | Zot:4    | Reached skill level 19 in Air Magic
 70293 | Zot:5    | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot
 70453 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 70457 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 70457 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 20 in Air Magic
 70486 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 70487 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 70488 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 70495 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 70495 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 21 in Air Magic
 70515 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 70519 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [an orb of fire]
 70522 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 70525 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 70529 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 22 in Air Magic
 70530 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 70645 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 70651 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 70651 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 23 in Air Magic
 70893 | Zot:5    | Got the Orb of Zot
 70912 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 70916 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [an orb of fire]
 70917 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 70931 | Zot:5    | Cast into level 5 of the Abyss (the power of Zot)
 70931 | Abyss:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Abyss
 70952 | Zot:5    | Escaped the Abyss
 71004 | Zot:2    | Noticed Xaguw the pandemonium lord
 71004 | Zot:2    | Noticed an ancient lich
 71007 | Zot:2    | Killed an ancient lich
 71007 | Zot:2    | Reached skill level 24 in Air Magic
 71007 | Zot:2    | Killed Xaguw the pandemonium lord
 71490 | D:$      | Escaped with the Orb!


What species was this btw? 246 HP seems too high for a DE.

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Post Tuesday, 2nd January 2018, 10:34

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

Vajrapani wrote:What species was this btw? 246 HP seems too high for a DE.


HuEE of Ashenzari with Int 31 and Shatter/Tornado/Statue Form (no wizardry) and amulet of harm.
Underestimated: cleaving, Deep Elf, Formicid, Vehumet, EV
Overestimated: AC, GDS
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Post Thursday, 4th January 2018, 21:29

Re: I think we learned an important lesson today.

Berserkitis can trigger on riposte.

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